(Sorry, nothing on Disney comics per se in this message.)
Gilbert> Per (& Don!) I think I have an idea -- as to what happen here...
No, I know what the problem was and it's fixed. I didn't forget to
send that message to Don btw. I sent it to him separately from the
other digest subscribers, as I had a small note to Don that I
prepended to it. I do it that way instead of sending him an extra
message, as he has to pay Compu$erve for every message he receives
from the Internet.
Chris> Is there some sort of FAQ for this group?
The ftp archive at pub/comics/disney at ftp.lysator.liu.se is where I
store informational files like comic book indexes and other stuff.
There is no specific FAQ file there though. (FAQ is short for
Frequently Asked Question, for those who don't know, or, by extension,
a file containing such questions with answers.)
That archive is mentioned in the welcome message to the list, but
maybe I should say more about it there, maybe even list what files are
there?
Only I can put files there, but of course I'm open to suggestion as to
what should go there. Sometimes I've been very inconsistent as it
depends much on how much time I have to put on the list myself just
when something that maybe should be archived is posted. Please tell
me if you miss something there.
I think my ideal is that the files there after a while will form a
coherent collection of information, be it frequently or not so
frequently asked for. Then if I'd like to know who is who of Huey,
Dewey and Louie (as an example) I'd look for a file huey-dewey-louie
in the characters subdirectory, if I'd like to know more about the
Life of Scrooge series I'd look at a file don-rosa in a directory
creators or something like that.
Or maybe we should instead (also?) have a normal big FAQ file which
answers (as well as we can) such questions? What FAQ's are there
anyway?
Chris> What's a DIGEST?
It's possible to subscribe to this list in digest form instead. It's
digest in the sense "collection of writings arranged under headings"
(Webster), and is simply all the messages from a day collected
together in one message. I number those digests, but those numbers
are of course never seen by you "normal" subscribers who get the
individual messages.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
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Per Starback
General stuff about the list
Message 61 -
1993-05-12 at 21:59:25
Chris Lawton
General stuff about the list
Message 62 -
1993-05-12 at 22:37:45
Great questions!!
I, for one, would love to see them answered.
Maybe some of the controversial ones like "Why is Mickey less popular than ..."
could be in the form of other questions to get people thinking.
Chris Mickey's #1 Fan!! :)
I, for one, would love to see them answered.
Maybe some of the controversial ones like "Why is Mickey less popular than ..."
could be in the form of other questions to get people thinking.
Chris Mickey's #1 Fan!! :)
David A Gerstein
"Lostralia"
Message 63 -
1993-05-12 at 23:26:25
The story about Mickey in Lostralia makes me think of the old
"Mary Jane and Sniffles" stories in _Looney Tunes and Merrie
Melodies_, not Mickey.
I know nothing about the story, but it certainly wasn't
Gottfredson. Given the plot, which sounds humorous but like the kind
of thing Gottfredson's Mickey would NEVER be caught in, it's probably
by a 1970s Whitman author.
I believe it's overexposure to this type of non-Gottfredson,
non-realistic story that has so many Barks fans unwilling to give FG a
chance now.
(I'm sorry to knock the "Lostralia" story, but it just doesn't
seem right somehow.)
Also: The Ducks are not surrounded by other birds, it's just
that their own "gang" is made up of them: Scrooge, Donald, the boys,
Daisy, her nieces, Gladstone, Gyro, Grandma, Gus and Clara (who, by the
way, is in a lot of MM cartoons c. 1935 which it seems that hardly any
modern Disney colorist has seen, since reprints of the Barks stories
containing her seldom color her consistently or correctly).
Aside from these characters, ducks, chickens and geese are a
minority beside dogs and pigs in Duckburg, of whom there are far more.
Especially dogs. There are occasional rodents and apes, but they're
VERY rare. Cats aren't so rare, but are more of a minority.
The cross-species layout of Gottfredson's "gang" is due to how
at the beginning of the strip, the characters all lived and worked on
Minnie's father's farm, and were an ASSORTMENT of barnyard animals,
not just one specific type. This is also due to how the Duck
characters (except chickens) tend to be related, while Mickey and his
companions are not.
The Gottfredson universe seems to use basically similar ratios
of species (dogs being the majority) to Duckburg. The only real
difference is that anthropomorphic goats occasionally appear. (Horace
and Clarabelle seem to be the ONLY horse and cow in Mickey's town...
and besides, Barks used them in his Daisy stories.)
(The very early Gottfredson stories show GIRAFFES as one of the
standard type of humanized animals roaming the city. Even as a
die-hard FG buff, I'm glad this was dropped.)
As for whether Mickey exists in Donald's world: he most
certainly does. The most telling reference is the Barks story in WDC 85
("Sales Resistance") in which Donald plugs up his door buzzer so that
salesmen can't bother him while he sleeps. Yet he unplugs it guiltily
later, worried that "Daisy or _Mickey_ or somebody I know" could come
by and not reach him.
Of course, before Donald got his own daily strip, he
frequently appeared in the Gottfredson strip. What's more, the
earlier Taliaferro strips often used Goofy, Mickey's nephews or Pluto
as foils for Donald.
Barks never portrayed Mickey in person in a Duck story because
he thought he wasn't supposed to.
It looks like Don Rosa will never do a MM story... but how
about William van Horn? He could start off by inking a story from
Barks' elaborate storyboard pencils for his self-done, unproduced
Mickey _cartoon_, "MM of the Northwest Mounted". He obviously draws a
pretty good Mickey.
[Of course, Don, if you like this idea, I'm all for you!]
Well, I've gotta go. Again, I'm saddened to see so many Barks
buffs who have seen Murry's Mouse, think they know what Mickey's
really like, and dismiss Gottfredson's stories after not giving them
much attention, feeling all Mice are equal, that for some reason mouse
fans like Gottfredson more, but that they'll never know why.
I love Barks' work tremendously, but also Gottfredson's.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"Mary Jane and Sniffles" stories in _Looney Tunes and Merrie
Melodies_, not Mickey.
I know nothing about the story, but it certainly wasn't
Gottfredson. Given the plot, which sounds humorous but like the kind
of thing Gottfredson's Mickey would NEVER be caught in, it's probably
by a 1970s Whitman author.
I believe it's overexposure to this type of non-Gottfredson,
non-realistic story that has so many Barks fans unwilling to give FG a
chance now.
(I'm sorry to knock the "Lostralia" story, but it just doesn't
seem right somehow.)
Also: The Ducks are not surrounded by other birds, it's just
that their own "gang" is made up of them: Scrooge, Donald, the boys,
Daisy, her nieces, Gladstone, Gyro, Grandma, Gus and Clara (who, by the
way, is in a lot of MM cartoons c. 1935 which it seems that hardly any
modern Disney colorist has seen, since reprints of the Barks stories
containing her seldom color her consistently or correctly).
Aside from these characters, ducks, chickens and geese are a
minority beside dogs and pigs in Duckburg, of whom there are far more.
Especially dogs. There are occasional rodents and apes, but they're
VERY rare. Cats aren't so rare, but are more of a minority.
The cross-species layout of Gottfredson's "gang" is due to how
at the beginning of the strip, the characters all lived and worked on
Minnie's father's farm, and were an ASSORTMENT of barnyard animals,
not just one specific type. This is also due to how the Duck
characters (except chickens) tend to be related, while Mickey and his
companions are not.
The Gottfredson universe seems to use basically similar ratios
of species (dogs being the majority) to Duckburg. The only real
difference is that anthropomorphic goats occasionally appear. (Horace
and Clarabelle seem to be the ONLY horse and cow in Mickey's town...
and besides, Barks used them in his Daisy stories.)
(The very early Gottfredson stories show GIRAFFES as one of the
standard type of humanized animals roaming the city. Even as a
die-hard FG buff, I'm glad this was dropped.)
As for whether Mickey exists in Donald's world: he most
certainly does. The most telling reference is the Barks story in WDC 85
("Sales Resistance") in which Donald plugs up his door buzzer so that
salesmen can't bother him while he sleeps. Yet he unplugs it guiltily
later, worried that "Daisy or _Mickey_ or somebody I know" could come
by and not reach him.
Of course, before Donald got his own daily strip, he
frequently appeared in the Gottfredson strip. What's more, the
earlier Taliaferro strips often used Goofy, Mickey's nephews or Pluto
as foils for Donald.
Barks never portrayed Mickey in person in a Duck story because
he thought he wasn't supposed to.
It looks like Don Rosa will never do a MM story... but how
about William van Horn? He could start off by inking a story from
Barks' elaborate storyboard pencils for his self-done, unproduced
Mickey _cartoon_, "MM of the Northwest Mounted". He obviously draws a
pretty good Mickey.
[Of course, Don, if you like this idea, I'm all for you!]
Well, I've gotta go. Again, I'm saddened to see so many Barks
buffs who have seen Murry's Mouse, think they know what Mickey's
really like, and dismiss Gottfredson's stories after not giving them
much attention, feeling all Mice are equal, that for some reason mouse
fans like Gottfredson more, but that they'll never know why.
I love Barks' work tremendously, but also Gottfredson's.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
David A Gerstein
My Egmont stories
Message 64 -
1993-05-12 at 23:42:24
Folks:
My first Egmont story, "Two in One" (which pits Uncle Scrooge
against Magica de Spell), has not been drawn yet, so is not officially
"finished". (I won't be doing the artwork; I am a cartoonist but not very
experienced with the Ducks as yet.) It won't be published for near a
year after that. So I think we'll see it probably sometime in the
summer or fall of 1994.
I'll be doing a whole lot of stories for them over this
summer, so there may be a break between publication of "Two in One"
and the succeeding stories, but when those start they ought to be more
frequent.
I sold three dialogs for Daniel Branca and Fred Milton stories
to Disney last year, but they were not printed before the shutdown.
Gladstone's John Clark plans to print them, and I'll tell you about a
schedule when one is made known to me.
To another recent discussion:
Please, fellow Barks fans, Paul Murry's Mickey may be boring
to you, but he isn't the same as Gottfredson's version. Take a look
at "Sky Island" in WDC&S 582-583, and you'll see just what I mean. Do
you think that (to quote a recent example) this Mickey would stand by
while Pete raped Minnie?
(That is such an unpleasant thought that I really don't even
like to write about it. Villain that Pete was, he didn't champion the
one night stand; in fact, he wanted to marry Minnie and retire from
his life of crime amid "twitterin' boidies" in 1934's _Captive
Castaways_.)
Please send your opinions of Mickey to Gladstone, folks. Be
constructive: say just what you've said here about what you think is
wrong with Mickey, and I'm sure they'll take it to heart. I don't
think they realize just what a lot of you think of the more prominent
"comic-book" Mouse (that's a good term for the Moores/Murry Mickey,
don't you think? Gottfredson's wasn't originally for comic books).
That will also influence their choices of MM material.
(Please don't just say that all Mickey stories are bad, folks!
From what you write, it sounds like you haven't given Gottfredson
enough of a chance.)
Your friend,
David Gerstein.
My first Egmont story, "Two in One" (which pits Uncle Scrooge
against Magica de Spell), has not been drawn yet, so is not officially
"finished". (I won't be doing the artwork; I am a cartoonist but not very
experienced with the Ducks as yet.) It won't be published for near a
year after that. So I think we'll see it probably sometime in the
summer or fall of 1994.
I'll be doing a whole lot of stories for them over this
summer, so there may be a break between publication of "Two in One"
and the succeeding stories, but when those start they ought to be more
frequent.
I sold three dialogs for Daniel Branca and Fred Milton stories
to Disney last year, but they were not printed before the shutdown.
Gladstone's John Clark plans to print them, and I'll tell you about a
schedule when one is made known to me.
To another recent discussion:
Please, fellow Barks fans, Paul Murry's Mickey may be boring
to you, but he isn't the same as Gottfredson's version. Take a look
at "Sky Island" in WDC&S 582-583, and you'll see just what I mean. Do
you think that (to quote a recent example) this Mickey would stand by
while Pete raped Minnie?
(That is such an unpleasant thought that I really don't even
like to write about it. Villain that Pete was, he didn't champion the
one night stand; in fact, he wanted to marry Minnie and retire from
his life of crime amid "twitterin' boidies" in 1934's _Captive
Castaways_.)
Please send your opinions of Mickey to Gladstone, folks. Be
constructive: say just what you've said here about what you think is
wrong with Mickey, and I'm sure they'll take it to heart. I don't
think they realize just what a lot of you think of the more prominent
"comic-book" Mouse (that's a good term for the Moores/Murry Mickey,
don't you think? Gottfredson's wasn't originally for comic books).
That will also influence their choices of MM material.
(Please don't just say that all Mickey stories are bad, folks!
From what you write, it sounds like you haven't given Gottfredson
enough of a chance.)
Your friend,
David Gerstein.
David A Gerstein
Barks' "Have Gun, Will Dance"
Message 65 -
1993-05-13 at 00:11:15
Dear Folks,
Just so we know that Barks isn't perfect, I'll bring up "Have
Gun, Will Dance," which was published recently in DiDDA 38.
If the Brutopian spy at the "Quintagon" had mailed his fellow
spies the plans to the laser gun, why did they need to steal more of
the guns for their revolution? Wasn't the goal to get the plans so
they could make the guns themselves?
If the ray gun offered by Oatie Floaties was just a model,
then why was it shooting a ray at all? If the gun was made by the
official plans and they ACCIDENTALLY installed the ray device at the
cereal company, then why wasn't the ray's effect like that of the ray
in the real gun?
And how did the spies, just in from Brutopia, suddenly
acquire an Oatie Floatie gun themselves? Wouldn't that take THEM eons
of cereal-eating, too? And what about the time it would take to mail
the things?
Compared to Van Horn's "A Small Matter," THIS story was
bursting with flaws. I have never seen another Barks story with
mistakes in it like this one had.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"This thing's as heavy as an old maid's heart = I can't budge
it!" -- Gottfredson, "Mickey Mouse, Circus Roustabout"
Just so we know that Barks isn't perfect, I'll bring up "Have
Gun, Will Dance," which was published recently in DiDDA 38.
If the Brutopian spy at the "Quintagon" had mailed his fellow
spies the plans to the laser gun, why did they need to steal more of
the guns for their revolution? Wasn't the goal to get the plans so
they could make the guns themselves?
If the ray gun offered by Oatie Floaties was just a model,
then why was it shooting a ray at all? If the gun was made by the
official plans and they ACCIDENTALLY installed the ray device at the
cereal company, then why wasn't the ray's effect like that of the ray
in the real gun?
And how did the spies, just in from Brutopia, suddenly
acquire an Oatie Floatie gun themselves? Wouldn't that take THEM eons
of cereal-eating, too? And what about the time it would take to mail
the things?
Compared to Van Horn's "A Small Matter," THIS story was
bursting with flaws. I have never seen another Barks story with
mistakes in it like this one had.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"This thing's as heavy as an old maid's heart = I can't budge
it!" -- Gottfredson, "Mickey Mouse, Circus Roustabout"
David A Gerstein
General stuff about the list
Message 66 -
1993-05-13 at 00:46:33
Dear Rich,
As for Goofy and Pete having sons, it has been made very clear
that the "Goop Troop" situation is a ROLE played by 'Goofy the actor.'
How else could they make it work? I refer you to _Goofy Adventures_
#17, which describes the -- then upcoming -- series from 'Goofy's own
words' (actually, I think Cody Weiss stood in for him!).
The DuckTales plotline allegedly takes place AFTER the classic
Barks stories, although something's wrong because they rework (only
occasionally very well) many Barks stories in the series. The story
"Coffee, Louie or Me" (US 257) inaugurates the 'post-DuckTales' era by
featuring Donald in his normal role referring to his stint in the Navy
as being over. (That story, however, shouldn't really be accepted as
canon as it is AWFUL.)
DuckTales didn't really do a very good job of covering up the
fact that what they really needed was Donald. Launchpad wasn't really
as much of a substitute for Donald as a lot of people paint him to
be (no temper, obvious daredevil attitude vs. Donald's cowardice,
etc.), so he couldn't completely fill Donald's role, though he
provided some fine pieces of comedy. Unfortunately, Fenton Crackshell
in the second-season episodes was all too obviously an attempt to
mimic Donald, and his grating voice and _superhero secret identity_
(!) didn't succeed in covering that up (although they certainly made
him more unpleasant).
Also, although unlike some people I can accept Launchpad as an
addition to the Barks universe when handled right, I cannot accept
Bubba Duck or Gizmo Duck as being part of Barks' semi-realistic
Duckburg. I also don't like the ruby dome on top of Scrooge's bin
topped with a gold $ sign: do you really think Scrooge would pay for
such "consarned _extravagance_"? Howlin' crashwagons, do you think
he's made of money?
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"I ought to know.. I'm the guy that _makes_ them rare!"
-- Scrooge via Barks, WDC&S 130 (I believe)
As for Goofy and Pete having sons, it has been made very clear
that the "Goop Troop" situation is a ROLE played by 'Goofy the actor.'
How else could they make it work? I refer you to _Goofy Adventures_
#17, which describes the -- then upcoming -- series from 'Goofy's own
words' (actually, I think Cody Weiss stood in for him!).
The DuckTales plotline allegedly takes place AFTER the classic
Barks stories, although something's wrong because they rework (only
occasionally very well) many Barks stories in the series. The story
"Coffee, Louie or Me" (US 257) inaugurates the 'post-DuckTales' era by
featuring Donald in his normal role referring to his stint in the Navy
as being over. (That story, however, shouldn't really be accepted as
canon as it is AWFUL.)
DuckTales didn't really do a very good job of covering up the
fact that what they really needed was Donald. Launchpad wasn't really
as much of a substitute for Donald as a lot of people paint him to
be (no temper, obvious daredevil attitude vs. Donald's cowardice,
etc.), so he couldn't completely fill Donald's role, though he
provided some fine pieces of comedy. Unfortunately, Fenton Crackshell
in the second-season episodes was all too obviously an attempt to
mimic Donald, and his grating voice and _superhero secret identity_
(!) didn't succeed in covering that up (although they certainly made
him more unpleasant).
Also, although unlike some people I can accept Launchpad as an
addition to the Barks universe when handled right, I cannot accept
Bubba Duck or Gizmo Duck as being part of Barks' semi-realistic
Duckburg. I also don't like the ruby dome on top of Scrooge's bin
topped with a gold $ sign: do you really think Scrooge would pay for
such "consarned _extravagance_"? Howlin' crashwagons, do you think
he's made of money?
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"I ought to know.. I'm the guy that _makes_ them rare!"
-- Scrooge via Barks, WDC&S 130 (I believe)
David A Gerstein
General Stuff about the list
Message 67 -
1993-05-13 at 04:31:38
Dear Rich (and other readers),
I know full well about "Bellhop Donald" and the Goofy sit-com
shorts of the 1950s-60s. Pete's "son" in "Canvas Back Duck" (1954)
was in fact his boxing trainer, wearing a little kid _mask_;
underneath, he was a cigar-chewing dog who only ACTED like a little
prig to lure Donald into the ring with his 'uncle'. (Uncle, not
father; but in reality, neither...!) However, Pete's son did appear
in "Bellhop Donald," you're right. However, he seems no relation to
PJ as he's an obnoxious little devil who you'd love to see spanked
(and who gets that done, by Donald, at the short's conclusion!). As
for the Goofy sit-com cartoons, Goofy played a 'role' in them: Mr.
George G. Geef, as was indicated many times. By that time, most of
Goofy's cartoons were situations in which he played roles and acted
only marginally like himself (the most obvious example of the latter
being 1950's "Motor Mania," in which neither aspect of his split
personality (Mr. Walker/Mr. Wheeler) talked or acted like the real
Goof).
Goofy also looked different in those later cartoons. His two
big teeth first became rabbit-like buck teeth, then disappeared. His
eyes got smaller from the huge, white expanse they have basically
remained in the comics, too (I find the classic version infinitely
more appealing). His jowls also got much smaller. All of those
changes except the teeth have been used in DA's "Goof Troop," this
being their first use in a long time. By the way, not only is Goofy
Jr.'s hair changed from brown to black but his nose is black, his ears
are longer and (perhaps most unattractively) he's been given Goofy's
teeth, as well. I think the idea was to make him slightly older here.
But does it work?
Pete's also changed in GT; he looks, in fact, like he did in
the mid-1950s cartoons (almost more canine than catlike due to the
reduced amount of black hair on the upper face), as well. The idea
seems to have been to pick up where those '50s cartoons left off, but
I wouldn't have done THAT. Oh, well...
Do you notice that no one knows what color to ink in the
characters in GT? In some scenes the characters' necks, arms and legs
are black; in others, Caucasian-flesh-color (which I find ugly).
Several times Max, Goofy and Pete have been seen without shirts;
sometimes they're Caucasian, other times with the more usual black
skin. In the comics they do of this series in the unfortunate _Disney
Adventures_ magazine, the skin is inconsistently colored as well,
often within the same story.
Having done dialogs for Disney, I visited the studio twice.
Guess what? Their GT model sheets vary, too!
Well, I gotta go. I have to write a paper, and can't really
Goof off any longer (get it? Hyuck!)
Your friend,
David Gerstein
I know full well about "Bellhop Donald" and the Goofy sit-com
shorts of the 1950s-60s. Pete's "son" in "Canvas Back Duck" (1954)
was in fact his boxing trainer, wearing a little kid _mask_;
underneath, he was a cigar-chewing dog who only ACTED like a little
prig to lure Donald into the ring with his 'uncle'. (Uncle, not
father; but in reality, neither...!) However, Pete's son did appear
in "Bellhop Donald," you're right. However, he seems no relation to
PJ as he's an obnoxious little devil who you'd love to see spanked
(and who gets that done, by Donald, at the short's conclusion!). As
for the Goofy sit-com cartoons, Goofy played a 'role' in them: Mr.
George G. Geef, as was indicated many times. By that time, most of
Goofy's cartoons were situations in which he played roles and acted
only marginally like himself (the most obvious example of the latter
being 1950's "Motor Mania," in which neither aspect of his split
personality (Mr. Walker/Mr. Wheeler) talked or acted like the real
Goof).
Goofy also looked different in those later cartoons. His two
big teeth first became rabbit-like buck teeth, then disappeared. His
eyes got smaller from the huge, white expanse they have basically
remained in the comics, too (I find the classic version infinitely
more appealing). His jowls also got much smaller. All of those
changes except the teeth have been used in DA's "Goof Troop," this
being their first use in a long time. By the way, not only is Goofy
Jr.'s hair changed from brown to black but his nose is black, his ears
are longer and (perhaps most unattractively) he's been given Goofy's
teeth, as well. I think the idea was to make him slightly older here.
But does it work?
Pete's also changed in GT; he looks, in fact, like he did in
the mid-1950s cartoons (almost more canine than catlike due to the
reduced amount of black hair on the upper face), as well. The idea
seems to have been to pick up where those '50s cartoons left off, but
I wouldn't have done THAT. Oh, well...
Do you notice that no one knows what color to ink in the
characters in GT? In some scenes the characters' necks, arms and legs
are black; in others, Caucasian-flesh-color (which I find ugly).
Several times Max, Goofy and Pete have been seen without shirts;
sometimes they're Caucasian, other times with the more usual black
skin. In the comics they do of this series in the unfortunate _Disney
Adventures_ magazine, the skin is inconsistently colored as well,
often within the same story.
Having done dialogs for Disney, I visited the studio twice.
Guess what? Their GT model sheets vary, too!
Well, I gotta go. I have to write a paper, and can't really
Goof off any longer (get it? Hyuck!)
Your friend,
David Gerstein
David A Gerstein
General stuff about the list
Message 68 -
1993-05-13 at 05:04:25
P. S. Where does Disney publish reprints of Asterix?
P. P. S. Marsupilami is a European comic strip character
who has become a cult favorite across the ocean. I don't know much
about him: since he's a funny character who doesn't indulge in
bloody, brutal fights no one's thought to introduce him to the U. S.
market in the past. He DOES make a cameo appearance in one Asterix,
since his author apparently knew Goscinny and Uderzo: in "Asterix and
the Cauldron," at the bazaar-sale scene, someone is selling "Comix"
(sic) printed on slabs of stone which feature Marsupilami (who is
shown on a billboard).
P. P. P. S. Marsu gets his own Sat. AM show next fall. I
don't know what's going to happen to "Raw Toonage." He'll also appear
in _Disney Adventures_ soon allegedly, although I don't follow that,
so I can't be overtly clear. However, the story of him being printed
there is not European, but done by Larry Mayer! #@%?!@
Gladstone could presumably take advantage of Disney's
Marsupilami license to give us the REAL character in a trial
publication or something. Who else supports this? (He could also
presumably show up in WDC&S, but he isn't one of the classic Disney
characters... then again, neither is Pooh, no matter how much some
people try to make him into one.)
P. P. S. Marsupilami is a European comic strip character
who has become a cult favorite across the ocean. I don't know much
about him: since he's a funny character who doesn't indulge in
bloody, brutal fights no one's thought to introduce him to the U. S.
market in the past. He DOES make a cameo appearance in one Asterix,
since his author apparently knew Goscinny and Uderzo: in "Asterix and
the Cauldron," at the bazaar-sale scene, someone is selling "Comix"
(sic) printed on slabs of stone which feature Marsupilami (who is
shown on a billboard).
P. P. P. S. Marsu gets his own Sat. AM show next fall. I
don't know what's going to happen to "Raw Toonage." He'll also appear
in _Disney Adventures_ soon allegedly, although I don't follow that,
so I can't be overtly clear. However, the story of him being printed
there is not European, but done by Larry Mayer! #@%?!@
Gladstone could presumably take advantage of Disney's
Marsupilami license to give us the REAL character in a trial
publication or something. Who else supports this? (He could also
presumably show up in WDC&S, but he isn't one of the classic Disney
characters... then again, neither is Pooh, no matter how much some
people try to make him into one.)
Harry Fluks
Comments on Rosa's Digest #16
Message 69 -
1993-05-13 at 19:36:58
Don Rosa:
> COMMENTS ON DIGEST # whateveritwas:
>
> Gladstone's comics are not bimonthly to "test the waters". They will
> remain bimonthly.
So we don't get back to the time when Gladstone published *six* to *eight*
comics a month? Pity...
> Per, I did not FORGET that the air molecules would have been frozen
> in my "On Stolen Time" story; I chose to IGNORE the fact in order
> to tell the tale. I later decided that saying something else other than
> time-freezing was going on would have solved that problem (
> and not been so silly an idea).
But I thought it was an excellent idea! I have phantasized about the
possibility myself for a while, and it was nice to see that someone else
had thought about that too. Only I would have stated that the "frozen"
things are not hard as stone: they still fall over if you push them when time
is frozen. That would have solved the air-freezing problem, but then again,
the Beagle Boyes wouldn't have been able to walk on birds, or get trapped
the way they did...
> And I imagine those Dan Jippes/Carl Barks JW remakes will be used by
> Gladstone. Why not? Every Disney comic book story ever done
> anywhere on the planet is available to them for their use at the same
> price... free.
What I heard is that they have to pay a (low) price for administration,
paper, etc.
--x--
Don, you also said you liked Ludwig Von Drake. I already expected that
since you drew him in the "Pied Piper of Duckburg" story, for no
particular reason.
I don't see Von Drake as part of the Barks universe, though, and I'm glad
Barks and others put their veto on you using him...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> COMMENTS ON DIGEST # whateveritwas:
>
> Gladstone's comics are not bimonthly to "test the waters". They will
> remain bimonthly.
So we don't get back to the time when Gladstone published *six* to *eight*
comics a month? Pity...
> Per, I did not FORGET that the air molecules would have been frozen
> in my "On Stolen Time" story; I chose to IGNORE the fact in order
> to tell the tale. I later decided that saying something else other than
> time-freezing was going on would have solved that problem (
> and not been so silly an idea).
But I thought it was an excellent idea! I have phantasized about the
possibility myself for a while, and it was nice to see that someone else
had thought about that too. Only I would have stated that the "frozen"
things are not hard as stone: they still fall over if you push them when time
is frozen. That would have solved the air-freezing problem, but then again,
the Beagle Boyes wouldn't have been able to walk on birds, or get trapped
the way they did...
> And I imagine those Dan Jippes/Carl Barks JW remakes will be used by
> Gladstone. Why not? Every Disney comic book story ever done
> anywhere on the planet is available to them for their use at the same
> price... free.
What I heard is that they have to pay a (low) price for administration,
paper, etc.
--x--
Don, you also said you liked Ludwig Von Drake. I already expected that
since you drew him in the "Pied Piper of Duckburg" story, for no
particular reason.
I don't see Von Drake as part of the Barks universe, though, and I'm glad
Barks and others put their veto on you using him...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Harry Fluks
Strobl et al. stories
Message 70 -
1993-05-13 at 19:46:03
Wilmer Rivers wrote, about Strobl, Moores, DeLara, Bradbury, Murry:
> I'll throw this one out to the group: what are your favorite stories by
> those authors?
My favourite Strobl story: the "Whammy" story, where Donald joins a
scottish contest with his very strong nephew.
My favourite Murry story: hm... I have to think about that... (I *do* like
many Murry stories. I think Murry's best work is better than a lot of
Gottfredson's.)
I don't have a favourite for the other artists... their work is not
worth reading twice.
I'm surprised that Don Rosa likes the artwork of Jack Bradbury. Personally,
I don't like all those black noses...
Jack Bradbury penciled a lot of stories for the "Foreign market" - not
printed at all in the USA. Those stories were awful most of the time, so
maybe that's why I dislike Bradbury's art...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> I'll throw this one out to the group: what are your favorite stories by
> those authors?
My favourite Strobl story: the "Whammy" story, where Donald joins a
scottish contest with his very strong nephew.
My favourite Murry story: hm... I have to think about that... (I *do* like
many Murry stories. I think Murry's best work is better than a lot of
Gottfredson's.)
I don't have a favourite for the other artists... their work is not
worth reading twice.
I'm surprised that Don Rosa likes the artwork of Jack Bradbury. Personally,
I don't like all those black noses...
Jack Bradbury penciled a lot of stories for the "Foreign market" - not
printed at all in the USA. Those stories were awful most of the time, so
maybe that's why I dislike Bradbury's art...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
David A Gerstein
Strobl; Murry vs. Gottfredson
Message 71 -
1993-05-13 at 21:05:43
Dear Harry Fluks (who started this topic) & Co.
Although I generally loathe the stories of Strobl, Bradbury,
etc. I will admit that the Scottish caber toss and "Wee Angus" made
for perhaps the only Strobl story I ever liked. Before I discovered
European Duck material with the Gladstone Renaissance, that was my
favorite non-Barks Duck story. Over all these years, I'd forgotten
it. Okay, it's still not a total loss, although I can only imagine
what it would look like with Daniel Branca's artwork. In fact,
Egmont had Branca redraw a few Strobls in the 1970s, two of which
Gladstone printed. Gladstone didn't know, however, that they were
redrawn Strobls, so had them dialogued like any other new story. One
being "The Mountless Mountie" in DDA 13, the other being "Trail of the
Lonesome Pine" (orig. "Backwards Woodsman") in some DD issue.
One reason I prefer the "Barks School" (Rosa, Scarpa,
Rota, Milton, Jippes, Branca, Van Horn and Vicar) to Strobl and
Bradbury is the seriousness with which the characters are treated.
Even in Van Horn's wildest stories, the characters' impulses strike me
as being essentially true to Barks' Ducks. But with Strobl you have
stories like "Santa's Unexpected Visit," in which Scrooge not only
believes in Santa but spends time trying to butter him up, like a
seven-year-old. ("Letter to Santa" may present Santa as existing in
Barks' world, but this story is completely off in depicting Scrooge's
personality.) You have thousands of stories set in foreign countries
that are completely nonsensical and unrealistic, such as nations of
live TOYS ("The Robot who Wasn't There," a story I remember by title
only because it was SO bad!). Strobl also gives every female character
half-open eyes, which is supposed to suggest flirtatiousness
maybe, but just gives Daisy (and Minnie, in these artists' usually
poor Mouse stories) a 'dopey' expression befitting Gus Goose.
As for Murry as opposed to Gottfredson... no matter how much
you may enjoy or remember some of Fallberg's plots, don't you agree that
Mickey had no outstanding personality in them? Okay, he was
honorable, smart and often kind of panicked, but really had no real
outstanding features. In fact, he acts essentially just like the
comic-book versions of Andy Panda and Porky Pig. Gottfredson's Mickey
is far more unique, with real enthusiasm and also a fair share of
character flaws (in "Circus Roustabout," he has as much trouble with
his job as Donald, and is demoted from one to another! His heroism in
the climax of that story exists in a vacuum!)
Of course, Gottfredson had his share of clinkers now and then.
But the Western MM stories tend to blur together in my mind, with
Fallberg's slightly better than the others but still marred by an
unexciting version of Mickey. The Gottfredson stories, aside from
having an outright villain more often than Barks, are anything but
formulaic. Murry's stories, in fact, show their formulas by having
the phrase "Mystery of..." or "Case of..." in many titles, just like
Hardy Boys mysteries. No wonder Mickey gets so DULL in them.
It is this cypherish characterization of Mickey that causes so
many Duck fans around here to feel ALL mice are equally dull.
Strangely, no comic has ever combined Ducks from Barks or the "Barks
School" with classic 1930s Gottfredson adventures as a regular format.
There have been plenty of books (WDC&S, Mickey and Donald) that have
paired Barks with post-Gottfredson Mickey, but almost never has Mickey
in his prime been paired with the best Ducks. Is is any wonder that,
with that being all "Duck-Only" buyers purchase, they have never had
much experience in getting to know Gottfredson? Occasional issues
(M&D 18, WDC&S 585) have made the essential combination, but most do
not. In fact, with _Mickey and Donald_ Gladstone seemed to be trying
to sell the poorer Mickey material on the strength of Barks in most
cases (Bill Walsh's Mouse being somewhat better than the others, but
used very infrequently). Although this may have sold it, it also gave
Duck-Only fans the feeling that they weren't missing much in MM.
And there is the root of the problem.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"Head or no head, this body beautiful is takin' the count!"
-- HDL via Barks, "The Old Castle's Secret"
Although I generally loathe the stories of Strobl, Bradbury,
etc. I will admit that the Scottish caber toss and "Wee Angus" made
for perhaps the only Strobl story I ever liked. Before I discovered
European Duck material with the Gladstone Renaissance, that was my
favorite non-Barks Duck story. Over all these years, I'd forgotten
it. Okay, it's still not a total loss, although I can only imagine
what it would look like with Daniel Branca's artwork. In fact,
Egmont had Branca redraw a few Strobls in the 1970s, two of which
Gladstone printed. Gladstone didn't know, however, that they were
redrawn Strobls, so had them dialogued like any other new story. One
being "The Mountless Mountie" in DDA 13, the other being "Trail of the
Lonesome Pine" (orig. "Backwards Woodsman") in some DD issue.
One reason I prefer the "Barks School" (Rosa, Scarpa,
Rota, Milton, Jippes, Branca, Van Horn and Vicar) to Strobl and
Bradbury is the seriousness with which the characters are treated.
Even in Van Horn's wildest stories, the characters' impulses strike me
as being essentially true to Barks' Ducks. But with Strobl you have
stories like "Santa's Unexpected Visit," in which Scrooge not only
believes in Santa but spends time trying to butter him up, like a
seven-year-old. ("Letter to Santa" may present Santa as existing in
Barks' world, but this story is completely off in depicting Scrooge's
personality.) You have thousands of stories set in foreign countries
that are completely nonsensical and unrealistic, such as nations of
live TOYS ("The Robot who Wasn't There," a story I remember by title
only because it was SO bad!). Strobl also gives every female character
half-open eyes, which is supposed to suggest flirtatiousness
maybe, but just gives Daisy (and Minnie, in these artists' usually
poor Mouse stories) a 'dopey' expression befitting Gus Goose.
As for Murry as opposed to Gottfredson... no matter how much
you may enjoy or remember some of Fallberg's plots, don't you agree that
Mickey had no outstanding personality in them? Okay, he was
honorable, smart and often kind of panicked, but really had no real
outstanding features. In fact, he acts essentially just like the
comic-book versions of Andy Panda and Porky Pig. Gottfredson's Mickey
is far more unique, with real enthusiasm and also a fair share of
character flaws (in "Circus Roustabout," he has as much trouble with
his job as Donald, and is demoted from one to another! His heroism in
the climax of that story exists in a vacuum!)
Of course, Gottfredson had his share of clinkers now and then.
But the Western MM stories tend to blur together in my mind, with
Fallberg's slightly better than the others but still marred by an
unexciting version of Mickey. The Gottfredson stories, aside from
having an outright villain more often than Barks, are anything but
formulaic. Murry's stories, in fact, show their formulas by having
the phrase "Mystery of..." or "Case of..." in many titles, just like
Hardy Boys mysteries. No wonder Mickey gets so DULL in them.
It is this cypherish characterization of Mickey that causes so
many Duck fans around here to feel ALL mice are equally dull.
Strangely, no comic has ever combined Ducks from Barks or the "Barks
School" with classic 1930s Gottfredson adventures as a regular format.
There have been plenty of books (WDC&S, Mickey and Donald) that have
paired Barks with post-Gottfredson Mickey, but almost never has Mickey
in his prime been paired with the best Ducks. Is is any wonder that,
with that being all "Duck-Only" buyers purchase, they have never had
much experience in getting to know Gottfredson? Occasional issues
(M&D 18, WDC&S 585) have made the essential combination, but most do
not. In fact, with _Mickey and Donald_ Gladstone seemed to be trying
to sell the poorer Mickey material on the strength of Barks in most
cases (Bill Walsh's Mouse being somewhat better than the others, but
used very infrequently). Although this may have sold it, it also gave
Duck-Only fans the feeling that they weren't missing much in MM.
And there is the root of the problem.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"Head or no head, this body beautiful is takin' the count!"
-- HDL via Barks, "The Old Castle's Secret"
Andrew Krieg 5-5379
Looking for a Barks tale
Message 72 -
1993-05-13 at 21:34:02
I have patiently been awaiting the reprinting of Barks' WDC&S short "Ice
Taxi". I have it in a Gold Key digest I bought when I was around 8 years
old, and it is a sentimental favorite of mine (first Barks I ever read).
Does anyone know which issue of WDC&S it was originally in, so I'll have
an idea when the CBLoWDC&S will be reprinting it? Thanks.
Taxi". I have it in a Gold Key digest I bought when I was around 8 years
old, and it is a sentimental favorite of mine (first Barks I ever read).
Does anyone know which issue of WDC&S it was originally in, so I'll have
an idea when the CBLoWDC&S will be reprinting it? Thanks.
David A Gerstein
Looking for a Barks tale
Message 73 -
1993-05-14 at 01:02:55
Dear Andrew,
The Barks tale of Donald and the kids and their ice taxis was
in WDC&S 186 (1955, I think). Unfortunately, it has not yet been
reprinted by either Gladstone or Disney. However, maybe this winter
will see it reprinted. Gladstone's just starting up again and, I'm
sure, grasping for readers' ideas; why not write in and request it?
I wrote in to request "Donald Duck's Atom Bomb" back in 1991,
and look what happened! Same with "Sky Island" (my letter was printed
for that one!) and "MM and the 'lectro Box" when it comes to Floyd
Gottfredson's stuff.
Hope that helps you. I don't have access just now to any list
that will tell me where the ice taxi story last appeared, I'm sorry
(but I WILL be able to tell you soon, if someone else doesn't first).
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"This voodoo hoodoo is driving me coo-coo, and Uncle Scrooge
has got to do something about it!" -- DDOS 238, Carl Barks
The Barks tale of Donald and the kids and their ice taxis was
in WDC&S 186 (1955, I think). Unfortunately, it has not yet been
reprinted by either Gladstone or Disney. However, maybe this winter
will see it reprinted. Gladstone's just starting up again and, I'm
sure, grasping for readers' ideas; why not write in and request it?
I wrote in to request "Donald Duck's Atom Bomb" back in 1991,
and look what happened! Same with "Sky Island" (my letter was printed
for that one!) and "MM and the 'lectro Box" when it comes to Floyd
Gottfredson's stuff.
Hope that helps you. I don't have access just now to any list
that will tell me where the ice taxi story last appeared, I'm sorry
(but I WILL be able to tell you soon, if someone else doesn't first).
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"This voodoo hoodoo is driving me coo-coo, and Uncle Scrooge
has got to do something about it!" -- DDOS 238, Carl Barks
Per Starback
The answers to the quote quiz
Message 74 -
1993-05-14 at 01:58:45
Here are the answers to my latest Barks quote quiz. The contestants
were: Anders Engwall, Anders Wass, Ola Torstensson, David Gerstein,
Harry Fluks, and Johan Blixt.
> 1. "Hmm! A *square* fire, a *round* fire, and a *hollow* fire! Very
> interesting! I'll report this to headquarters!"
This is "Benzine" Banzoony in "The Firebug" from DDOS 108. All the
six contestants got it, so they get 1/6 point each.
> 2. "Here's a book on `Removing Musty Smells From Dried Dodo
> Feathers'! Read it and improve your minds!"
This was supposed to be harder, and evidently it was. Harry thought
that it might be the Super Snooper story (WDC 107), where Donald has
strong opinions on what his nephews read. Ola guessed at "the one
where the nephews dress up as giant bugs" (WDC 77), which was a pretty
good guess as it is from another story at about the same time (WDC 80)
also set in Donald's garden. Only David got this one, so he gets one
full point for it.
> 3. "Ahem, gentlemen! That window is *opaque* glass!"
Here on the other hand everyone except David got it. This is the
waiter's comment when Scrooge and a disguised Donald agrees that
it's a wonderful view through the window. "Yes! I could look at it
for *hours!*" WDC 148.
> 4. "Times are tough, huh, bud?"
Everyone got this one, which is from the story about the talking dog
(WDC 152) and it's the talking dog himself who says it. Donald's
answer: "You're not kidding!"
> 5. "*Americans!* Stoke th' fiahs! Head th'skillets! We ain't had
> Americans fo' dinnah since 1868!"
This was supposed to be easy, and everyone got it. Well, I've always
had a quote from Lost in the Andes in these quizzes before, so...
> 6. "Neighee wheenie whee neighee! Yonk! Yonk!"
Harry guessed at the echo story (WDC 105) where there are many strange
sounds and David though it was the drugged horse in "The Hard Loser"
(DDOS 29), but he sounds more like "wheeee", "whick", and "gleek
pleep!" and in fact this was police horse that got turned into a "keen
orator" by the teaching cylinder in "The Swamp of No Return" (US 57).
Noone got this.
> 7. "My little Bob caught chills!"
Everyone except Ola got this one. It's one mother complaining to
another about Donald's swimming pool in WDC 129.
> 8. "Make it *four* tickets! My nephews are kangaroos too!"
Another one which everyone got. Maybe it was too easy? But maybe all
you who didn't enter didn't think so? This is Donald on his way to
Australia in Adventure Down Under (DDOS 159).
> 9. "Allakazalla zillika zuck! I think I see a *lucky* duck!"
This is Gladstone Gander. That is, it is not about Gladstone, but it
is Gladstone speaking (about Donald!) Gladstone is wearing a swami
outfit, just as he is in Trail of the Unicorn. David must have
associated the quote with the swami outfit, because he knew it was one
of those stories, but unfortunately he chose the wrong one. Anders E,
Anders W, and Harry got it right (WDC 163).
> 10. "Ramjckwckwizc hits a single over Socrapossi's head! The crowd
> goes wild!"
Anders E, Anders W and Ola got this one right. It is a radio
commentator from a very exciting ball game which Donald is listening
to on a houseboat in Lake Erie in WDC 142.
> 11. "I *want* that bauble! I'll pay you all the rice I can grow for
> ten years!"
Uncle Scrooge in Tralla La (US 6). They got it all.
> 12. "Baby kills mother, shoots pa"
This was supposed to be really hard, but Johan and David both got it.
Half a point each then. It's a small headline in the newspaper that
Donald imagines himself on the front page of in the old WDC 32
(headline about Donald: "Heroic duck subdues gorilla"). Normal people
don't read that fine print! :-)
> 13. "Yes, it's plenty safe, boys! There won't bee another fire *here*
> for a long, *long* time!"
A bee there that shouldn't *be* there flew into the quote, but most of
you (Anders E, Anders W, David, Johan, Harry) got it anyway. It's
after the fire in Vacation Parade #1.
The both Anderses had the most number of correct answers (10) and they
got exactly the same questions (!), but because of my scoring system
they didn't win anyway, and that did instead (ta-da!) David Gerstein
(getting the only full point on a question helped). Congratulations!
The total score table this time is:
41/15 = 2.73 David
21/10 = 2.1 Anders E and Anders W
29/15 = 1.93 Johan
53/30 = 1.77 Harry
41/30 = 1.37 Ola
Summing this up with my last quiz before this one yields a total top
five Hall of Fame like this:
89/15 = 5.93 Harry Fluks
143/30 = 4.77 Anders Wass
23/6 = 3.83 Anders Berglund
41/15 = 2.73 David Gerstein
21/10 = 2.1 Anders Engwall
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Ta ta, boys! I'll see you in the funny papers!"
(That one is from WDC 45 by the way.)
were: Anders Engwall, Anders Wass, Ola Torstensson, David Gerstein,
Harry Fluks, and Johan Blixt.
> 1. "Hmm! A *square* fire, a *round* fire, and a *hollow* fire! Very
> interesting! I'll report this to headquarters!"
This is "Benzine" Banzoony in "The Firebug" from DDOS 108. All the
six contestants got it, so they get 1/6 point each.
> 2. "Here's a book on `Removing Musty Smells From Dried Dodo
> Feathers'! Read it and improve your minds!"
This was supposed to be harder, and evidently it was. Harry thought
that it might be the Super Snooper story (WDC 107), where Donald has
strong opinions on what his nephews read. Ola guessed at "the one
where the nephews dress up as giant bugs" (WDC 77), which was a pretty
good guess as it is from another story at about the same time (WDC 80)
also set in Donald's garden. Only David got this one, so he gets one
full point for it.
> 3. "Ahem, gentlemen! That window is *opaque* glass!"
Here on the other hand everyone except David got it. This is the
waiter's comment when Scrooge and a disguised Donald agrees that
it's a wonderful view through the window. "Yes! I could look at it
for *hours!*" WDC 148.
> 4. "Times are tough, huh, bud?"
Everyone got this one, which is from the story about the talking dog
(WDC 152) and it's the talking dog himself who says it. Donald's
answer: "You're not kidding!"
> 5. "*Americans!* Stoke th' fiahs! Head th'skillets! We ain't had
> Americans fo' dinnah since 1868!"
This was supposed to be easy, and everyone got it. Well, I've always
had a quote from Lost in the Andes in these quizzes before, so...
> 6. "Neighee wheenie whee neighee! Yonk! Yonk!"
Harry guessed at the echo story (WDC 105) where there are many strange
sounds and David though it was the drugged horse in "The Hard Loser"
(DDOS 29), but he sounds more like "wheeee", "whick", and "gleek
pleep!" and in fact this was police horse that got turned into a "keen
orator" by the teaching cylinder in "The Swamp of No Return" (US 57).
Noone got this.
> 7. "My little Bob caught chills!"
Everyone except Ola got this one. It's one mother complaining to
another about Donald's swimming pool in WDC 129.
> 8. "Make it *four* tickets! My nephews are kangaroos too!"
Another one which everyone got. Maybe it was too easy? But maybe all
you who didn't enter didn't think so? This is Donald on his way to
Australia in Adventure Down Under (DDOS 159).
> 9. "Allakazalla zillika zuck! I think I see a *lucky* duck!"
This is Gladstone Gander. That is, it is not about Gladstone, but it
is Gladstone speaking (about Donald!) Gladstone is wearing a swami
outfit, just as he is in Trail of the Unicorn. David must have
associated the quote with the swami outfit, because he knew it was one
of those stories, but unfortunately he chose the wrong one. Anders E,
Anders W, and Harry got it right (WDC 163).
> 10. "Ramjckwckwizc hits a single over Socrapossi's head! The crowd
> goes wild!"
Anders E, Anders W and Ola got this one right. It is a radio
commentator from a very exciting ball game which Donald is listening
to on a houseboat in Lake Erie in WDC 142.
> 11. "I *want* that bauble! I'll pay you all the rice I can grow for
> ten years!"
Uncle Scrooge in Tralla La (US 6). They got it all.
> 12. "Baby kills mother, shoots pa"
This was supposed to be really hard, but Johan and David both got it.
Half a point each then. It's a small headline in the newspaper that
Donald imagines himself on the front page of in the old WDC 32
(headline about Donald: "Heroic duck subdues gorilla"). Normal people
don't read that fine print! :-)
> 13. "Yes, it's plenty safe, boys! There won't bee another fire *here*
> for a long, *long* time!"
A bee there that shouldn't *be* there flew into the quote, but most of
you (Anders E, Anders W, David, Johan, Harry) got it anyway. It's
after the fire in Vacation Parade #1.
The both Anderses had the most number of correct answers (10) and they
got exactly the same questions (!), but because of my scoring system
they didn't win anyway, and that did instead (ta-da!) David Gerstein
(getting the only full point on a question helped). Congratulations!
The total score table this time is:
41/15 = 2.73 David
21/10 = 2.1 Anders E and Anders W
29/15 = 1.93 Johan
53/30 = 1.77 Harry
41/30 = 1.37 Ola
Summing this up with my last quiz before this one yields a total top
five Hall of Fame like this:
89/15 = 5.93 Harry Fluks
143/30 = 4.77 Anders Wass
23/6 = 3.83 Anders Berglund
41/15 = 2.73 David Gerstein
21/10 = 2.1 Anders Engwall
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Ta ta, boys! I'll see you in the funny papers!"
(That one is from WDC 45 by the way.)
Don Rosa
Digest #19
Message 75 -
1993-05-14 at 06:42:37
Per:
I don't have many replies or comments on the latest digest. I might mention that, yes, Disney comics licensees do pay a minimal fee
when they wish to reprint a story, the fee to cover the cost of the photostats shipped to them by the story's producer or archiver,
99% of the time which is Egmont. Not even Disney ever bothered to keep copies of the old comic stories since they had so little
concern for something as lowly as funnybooks; Dell and Egmont/Gutenberghus were the archivers. Anyway, you'll have to admit that
full permission to reprint somebody's work and profit from same and not have to pay anything but xerox costs is a pretty sweet deal!
That's the basis for the founding of Gladstone Comics! What other writers or artists on this planet are exploited the way Disney
freelancers are? Why are writers or creative folks in every other field of endeavor allowed their small percentage of profit from their
works, but not Disney freelancers? I'd like someone to tell me the answer to that someday.
As for my "Frozen Time" story, if I froze time (!) I needed to freeze it solid, not semi-solid... otherwise it would have been WAY
too close to John D. MacDonald's short-story "The Girl, the Gold Watch and Everything" (which was made into two TV movies some years
back). I had my idea before I learned of that novelette, but read it to see how close my idea was to MacDonald's tale. In his story,
objects could be moved slowly, and the moving through air was like moving through water (in real time) to the guy with the magic watch.
In other news, after trying for about a week, I finally got through to COMPUSERVE's busy customer service department, and I found that
there is another membership option that I'd never needed to consider which (supposedly) will GREATLY reduce the amounts of $$$ that
these INTERNET messages are costing me. But... now that I finally found a way to afford to spend time on here, people have stopped
asking me questions. It figgers.
I don't have many replies or comments on the latest digest. I might mention that, yes, Disney comics licensees do pay a minimal fee
when they wish to reprint a story, the fee to cover the cost of the photostats shipped to them by the story's producer or archiver,
99% of the time which is Egmont. Not even Disney ever bothered to keep copies of the old comic stories since they had so little
concern for something as lowly as funnybooks; Dell and Egmont/Gutenberghus were the archivers. Anyway, you'll have to admit that
full permission to reprint somebody's work and profit from same and not have to pay anything but xerox costs is a pretty sweet deal!
That's the basis for the founding of Gladstone Comics! What other writers or artists on this planet are exploited the way Disney
freelancers are? Why are writers or creative folks in every other field of endeavor allowed their small percentage of profit from their
works, but not Disney freelancers? I'd like someone to tell me the answer to that someday.
As for my "Frozen Time" story, if I froze time (!) I needed to freeze it solid, not semi-solid... otherwise it would have been WAY
too close to John D. MacDonald's short-story "The Girl, the Gold Watch and Everything" (which was made into two TV movies some years
back). I had my idea before I learned of that novelette, but read it to see how close my idea was to MacDonald's tale. In his story,
objects could be moved slowly, and the moving through air was like moving through water (in real time) to the guy with the magic watch.
In other news, after trying for about a week, I finally got through to COMPUSERVE's busy customer service department, and I found that
there is another membership option that I'd never needed to consider which (supposedly) will GREATLY reduce the amounts of $$$ that
these INTERNET messages are costing me. But... now that I finally found a way to afford to spend time on here, people have stopped
asking me questions. It figgers.