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Larry J. Gerstein
Dear Folks,

First of all, note my new E-mail address... I'm now at home in
Hanover, NH and will be here for a while. So I'm using my Dad's E-Mail
system.

Now that I'm here I've gotten the first look at the new Gladstones.
Well, they look generally good. The WDC&S has, in my opinion, a Li'l Bad
Wolf with downright poor artwork; after about 1958, Paul Murry's work just
doesn't strike me as anything like attractive. Here it is wooden and stiff.
(The writing is okay, I guess, but Gladstone didn't know who did it.)
However, the Donald's a nice pick, and the Mickey is, too. (Note: This is a
different-looking reformatting of this story than was in Gladstone's old
Album #4, and it's got far superior colors, although it looks rather stuffed
in with 5 rows of panels to a page.)

(Again, I think that the Gottfredson stuff should be in Donald and
Mickey, not here, because there the Gottfredson can have 13 pages, whereas
even with 12 here, he blocks out space that could be used for a longer middle
story (LBW is 4 pgs). Whereas the other artists' Mickey stories are all
shorter and can be used in 8-page chunks; in fact, many that were in WDC&S
are *already* this way.)

Okay, fellas and gals, what do you think of the Gladstone color
scheme? I know no one who liked the ducks to have blue eyes; they're gone.
Disney *also* colored the insides of the ducks' mouths red-brown, like they
and Gladstone always have on the covers, and as was also the fashion in the
earlier cartoons. I liked having this inside the comics. Now the ducks have
the insides of their mouths the same color as the outsides. This wouldn't be
bad if the bills' color was orange-yellow, like in the newsprint comics, or
light orange, as in the albums; it's now (and the same is true of the recent
CBL Albums) almost an orange-BROWN, which I think is flatter and less
attractive, particularly when they give the ducks similarly bland pink
tongues (as opposed to red, or the odd lavender Disney used).
On the pro side, Mickey and Goofy lose their pink faces. On the
other hand, I think Li'l Bad Wolf looked better with one.

(I'm just bringing all these things up to see what you guys think of
'em, so that maybe if anyone figures they're worth arguing about, a group of
letters could be sent to Gladstone about it, and a group may be more likely
to get results than just ONE person.)

Well, let's see what you think...

Your friend,

David Gerstein
Larry J. Gerstein
P. S. It's easy to notice how much DARKER the ducks' bills are in
the new Gladstones than in the old ones. Gladstone darkened the bills when
it essentially reused the coloring that they had for "Hondorica" in their old
Giant Album #5. But they didn't darken them on pages 20 and 21 of the story
for some reason, and comparing those with pages right afterwards is a
revealing experiment.

P. P. S. Of course, I'm very pleased with most of Gladstone's
doings. I may seem really nitpicky here, but my complaints, though I
characteristically spent a long time TALKING about them, aren't too huge, are
they?
Andrew Krieg 5-5379
OK, it looks like I, a lowly US citizen, may never get to see a copy of
"War of the Wendigo". But, perhaps I can improvise. Could one of our
overseas readers purchase me a copy of the comic with this story in it? I,
of course, would pay for all shipping+handling, etc.

Don, do you have the script for this comic on-line? If so, could you
post it to our mailing list (or to one person who could put it at the ftp
site)? If not, again, could one of our overseas readers translate the
story (panel by panel) and post it?

It may not be pretty, but it would sure help me round out my collection,
and I would be eternally grateful!

Thanks much.

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= Andrew Krieg | =
= krieg at ct.med.ge.com | Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee =
= or | =
= krieg at point.cs.uwm.edu| - Astoroth =
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Andrew Krieg 5-5379
The file disney.index.z appears to be corrupt at the ftp.lysator.liu.se
ftp site. I tried twice to download (in binary) and uncompress it, but
both times failed. Could whoever has a good copy of this file please
re-upload it.

Thanks.
Andrew Krieg 5-5379
I seem to be having problems with all the compressed files at the archive,
however, I just uncompressed a few of them a couple days ago. Is anyone
else having problems, or is it just me?

Andy
Per Starback
Andy:
> The file disney.index.z appears to be corrupt at the ftp.lysator.liu.se
> ftp site. I tried twice to download (in binary) and uncompress it, but
> both times failed.
[and later he says the same about other compressed files there as well.]

I didn't do anything, but I guess someone else enforced the new
compress policy at ftp.lysator.liu.se on those files, that is to use
the GNU compress program gzip on them instead of compress.

gzip creates files with names ending in ".z", not ".Z" as the usual
compress. The corresponding uncompress program is gunzip. If you
don't have gunzip, it's still possible to have the uncompressing done
before you transfer the file, so you could have asked for the file
"disney.index" even though only "disney.index.z" was listed to get it
gunzipped at the remote site.

(I'm leaving town for a few days now, so any list management duties
won't be done until Tuesday. CU later!)
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Harry Fluks
Mailing list: digests, archives
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per wrote:
> (I'm leaving town for a few days now, so any list management duties
> won't be done until Tuesday. CU later!)

I've been wondering how the Digests are compiled: do you have a program
for that, or do you collect the mails manually? (If the latter, then this
mail won't appear in a digest before tuesday...)

And about our archives at the ftp-site: there are new versions coming up
of the Gladstone list and the Disney Comics list. Next week!
(BTW: we could still use volunteers to fill in gaps in the lists. If you want
to do some indexing, contact me: I'm coordinating this.)

A question for Don Rosa
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have been wondering about this for a while: in the first USA reprint of
the story "Return to Xanadu", the story is split up into 2 episodes. The
first page of the 2nd episode is an extract of the 1st episode. I recognize
some of the panels on this page, but some of the panels don't seem to
appear anywhere else in the story.
Don: did you draw that 'introductory' page especially for Disney Comics?

--Harry.

Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Don Rosa
COMMENTS TO #31:

I agree with Harry to being puzzled by people who can't recognize my art at 20 paces! I'm often at comic shows doing sketches
signing stuff and so forth, and I can always separate the men from the boys (or the true Duck fans from the people who just want
to invest in signed comics) by what their comments to me are. When someone says that they just can't tell my artwork apart from
Barks' it's just so wunnerful... I know they've never even looked at one of my stories.

Banned ROSA stories? "War of the Wendigo" is the only one so far. But when we get to certain chapters of "The Life and Times of
$crooge McDuck", Disney may not allow Gladstone to use the chapters without deleting pages of very UN-DISNEYlike goins-ons. I've
done some stuff in $crooge's life story, especially toward the end when he's getting more mean and ornery with each passing year,
that are light-years away from ANYTHING that's ever been in any Disney comic! And right now in part 11 I'm doing a 24-pager whose
central plot involves $crooge's original encounters with Bombie the Zombie, and this whole chapter might be nixed by Disney. (Or
they'll make Gladstone call him Bombie the Ugly Bad Guy or something).
Speaking of Bombie and any ideas that I'm revising ANY Barks Duck-fact, I managed to use everything in "Voodoo Hoodoo" ver batim
EXCEPT the stuff about $crooge's African experiences taking place "75 years ago"; that was pretty goofy even for Barks to have said
back in the original issue -- $crooge would have had to have been at least 100 years old in "Voodoo Hoodoo". Anyway, I change the
time frame to 1906, which would be about 50 years ago in my timescape.

Andrew K.: No, I don't have "War of the Wendigo" typed up into a computer file. I never could find a use for computers in my writing
as long as they still make spiral notebooks (which are FAR handier to use, no matter what any computer-nerd can claim). But I can
always send out copies of the script (which is done up with illustrations like a simulated comic page). However, I'm not keen on
people reading the script with that sloppy art without having the FINISHED comic to also look at. If Andrew (or anyone) can get
aholt of a foreign edition of "Wendigo", I'll mail them the script. I can't supply those comics because, as I've said, I have a
devil of a time getting one copy just for ME.
Harry Fluks
Don Rosa wrote to me:
> Now hold on just a darn minute. I know my artwork is not very polished
> or professional... but it's all my extra detail and depth of atmosphere that
> makes MY artwork more interesting and entertaining to the older readers than
> all that simplistic Disney-esque art from Vicar and the like! I know where
> my artistic faults are, but I also know for a fact that it's the older
> readers who are my boosters.
> If you're reflecting Tom Roep's opinion, I know he's dead wrong on THAT count!

What I wrote is what I think is Thom Roep's opinion. Personally, I like
your artwork (especially your Egmont stories).

I think most people in Holland still don't know who made which story,
even when they heard about a guy named Barks. It's no Scandinavia here...
Maybe it's time that someone publishes an article about Rosa in a Dutch comic
fanzine...

But.. I like Vicar's artwork, too. His work has improved the last 2 or 3
years! One time, I caught myself believing a panel was Barks's, while
it was in fact a Vicar panel.
His "Eurodisney" stories are very good (I'm talking about the *drawings*, not
the scripts!)

--Harry.
George Kesidis
Actually, Don's stories are the only ones I can identify as his
from the art (I can't identify Barks' stuff because of all the
copycats). I usually look in the credits to see who did what in
the comic because I don't like to thumb through comics I haven't
bought (store owners are a little anal about this sort of thing too.)

Anyway, I've another question about Don's "Life of $crooge":
how will it be published? Please don't say that it will appear
as twenty 10 pagers. In the best of all possible worlds,
it would appear as one big graphic novel.
-George
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