DON:
That would have been us telling about the price of the limited-edition
leather-bound versions of your book, and it was sent to the list. For numbers
1 to 20 the price was 1500 FIM (about $350) and for numbers 21 to 100
750 FIM (about $175).
Yes, the price is high, but then again they are meant as collectibles and
not for everyone. The normal version is exactly the same save the cover
design, autograph and original drawing (in full color in the more expensive
version). There has been special editions also from the facsimile books of
Aku Ankka years 1951-52 (with autograph of Carl Barks, costing 2000 FIM,
about $460) and 1953 (we don't know that much about this one :)
The million FIM mark means that your book has sold over 6000 copies!
ALL:
Happy New Year!
//Pekka Timonen & Christina Hellstrom
Author
Topic: 199601
(219 messages)
Pekka Frobozz
dcomics Digest V95 #32
Message 1 -
1996-01-01 at 01:58:17
Wilmer Rivers
Ulysses McDuck
Message 2 -
1996-01-01 at 06:20:48
The level of traffic in this newsgroup always drops off around Christmas
and New Year, so perhaps I can be forgiven (please, Per?) for posting
a musing which, while not at all off-topic, is at least a bit afield of
our normal discussions. It is prompted by LO$ episode 12, which of
course takes place at Christmas, but which is appropriate for New Year
as well. As the winter solstice has been, since ancient days, a time at
which people rejoice at the end of the lengthening mights and celebrate
the re-birth of the sun, so Scrooge finds it a time to bring an end to
his self-imposed days of recluse and once again to enter the world as
a mover and shaker. Just as the New Year is a time both to reflect on
the past and to plan for the future (January being named for Janus, the
two-faced Roman god who looks both forwards and backwards), at the start
of LO$ 12 we see Scrooge dreaming of his past, and at the end of the
story we see him anticipating another 20 years of adventures. In this
respect he reminds us of Ulysses in the famous poem of that same name,
written in 1842 by Tennyson. The poet envisions that the famous warrior
king, who has seen so much adventure during the Trojan War and during
his Odyssey homeward from it, is ill suited to sit in his castle and
live out his final days dreaming of his past glories. Tennyson asserts
that Ulysses, although perhaps tired and weakened by age, would inevit-
ably decide to take to the seas again in search of new adventures. I
was reciting this poem to myself throughout my reading of LO$ 12, and
(this is the part for which I must beg your indulgence, Per) I would
like to reproduce the relevant parts of it below, for the benefit of
those of you in non-English speaking lands who may not be as familiar
with it as are those of us who learned it well in our high school
classes of English poetry. I suspect Don was thinking of it as well
when he wrote the story - weren't you, Don?
"Ulysses", by Alfred, Lord Tennyson
... I am become a name;
For always roaming with a hungry heart
Much have I seen and known - cities of men
And manners, climates, councils, governments,
Myself not least, but honored of them all -
And drunk delight of battle with my peers,
Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy.
I am a part of all that I have met;
Yet all experience is an arch wherethrough
Gleams that untraveled world whose margin fades
Forever and forever when I move.
How dull it is to pause, to make an end,
To rust unburnished, not to shine in use!
As though to breathe were life!
...
The long day wanes; the slow moon climbs; the deep
Moans round with many voices. Come, my friends.
'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
Push off, and sitting well in order smite
The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds
To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths
Of all the western stars, until I die.
It may be that the gulfs will wash us down;
It may be that we shall touch the Happy Isles,
And see the great Achilles, whom we knew.
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are -
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Happy New Year, everyone!
Wilmer Rivers
and New Year, so perhaps I can be forgiven (please, Per?) for posting
a musing which, while not at all off-topic, is at least a bit afield of
our normal discussions. It is prompted by LO$ episode 12, which of
course takes place at Christmas, but which is appropriate for New Year
as well. As the winter solstice has been, since ancient days, a time at
which people rejoice at the end of the lengthening mights and celebrate
the re-birth of the sun, so Scrooge finds it a time to bring an end to
his self-imposed days of recluse and once again to enter the world as
a mover and shaker. Just as the New Year is a time both to reflect on
the past and to plan for the future (January being named for Janus, the
two-faced Roman god who looks both forwards and backwards), at the start
of LO$ 12 we see Scrooge dreaming of his past, and at the end of the
story we see him anticipating another 20 years of adventures. In this
respect he reminds us of Ulysses in the famous poem of that same name,
written in 1842 by Tennyson. The poet envisions that the famous warrior
king, who has seen so much adventure during the Trojan War and during
his Odyssey homeward from it, is ill suited to sit in his castle and
live out his final days dreaming of his past glories. Tennyson asserts
that Ulysses, although perhaps tired and weakened by age, would inevit-
ably decide to take to the seas again in search of new adventures. I
was reciting this poem to myself throughout my reading of LO$ 12, and
(this is the part for which I must beg your indulgence, Per) I would
like to reproduce the relevant parts of it below, for the benefit of
those of you in non-English speaking lands who may not be as familiar
with it as are those of us who learned it well in our high school
classes of English poetry. I suspect Don was thinking of it as well
when he wrote the story - weren't you, Don?
"Ulysses", by Alfred, Lord Tennyson
... I am become a name;
For always roaming with a hungry heart
Much have I seen and known - cities of men
And manners, climates, councils, governments,
Myself not least, but honored of them all -
And drunk delight of battle with my peers,
Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy.
I am a part of all that I have met;
Yet all experience is an arch wherethrough
Gleams that untraveled world whose margin fades
Forever and forever when I move.
How dull it is to pause, to make an end,
To rust unburnished, not to shine in use!
As though to breathe were life!
...
The long day wanes; the slow moon climbs; the deep
Moans round with many voices. Come, my friends.
'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
Push off, and sitting well in order smite
The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds
To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths
Of all the western stars, until I die.
It may be that the gulfs will wash us down;
It may be that we shall touch the Happy Isles,
And see the great Achilles, whom we knew.
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
We are not that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are -
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Happy New Year, everyone!
Wilmer Rivers
Henri Sivonen
dcomics Digest V95 #33
Message 3 -
1996-01-01 at 11:41:26
Daniel,
>Somehow they
>didn't like the picture as it was drawn by Don. Sometimes they also
>redraw a Barks-cover, because they don't like it's original look.
Weird. IMHO the original art is better that the Dutch one.
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed) WWW:
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris
>Somehow they
>didn't like the picture as it was drawn by Don. Sometimes they also
>redraw a Barks-cover, because they don't like it's original look.
Weird. IMHO the original art is better that the Dutch one.
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed) WWW:
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris
Arthur De Wolf
I Wish Everyone A Happy New Year
Message 4 -
1996-01-01 at 21:35:42
DON:
What stories do you plan to make in 1996?
Arthur
What stories do you plan to make in 1996?
Arthur
Deckerd
dcomics Digest V95 #28
Message 5 -
1996-01-02 at 00:58:41
On Dec 25, 3:10pm, Jyrki Vainio wrote:
> Subject: Re: dcomics Digest V95 #28
>
>
> DWIGHT:
>
> BTW, I saw your article about Barks on an old issue of the Comics
> Journal. Good work! Did you notice on a recent digest when this
> one guy said that the book 'The Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald
> Duck by Carl Barks' now sells for some $ 2000 in Germany? Lucky
> you.
>
Not so lucky me. I wasn't able to keep the copy of "The Fine Art..."
that I reviewed; it was owned by the Comics Journal and I had to
give it back when I was done. So that's $2000 that slipped through
my pudgy fingers...(moan).
--Dwight (Only a Poor Old Duck Fan) Decker
--------------------------------
End of dcomics Digest V96 Issue #1
**********************************
> Subject: Re: dcomics Digest V95 #28
>
>
> DWIGHT:
>
> BTW, I saw your article about Barks on an old issue of the Comics
> Journal. Good work! Did you notice on a recent digest when this
> one guy said that the book 'The Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald
> Duck by Carl Barks' now sells for some $ 2000 in Germany? Lucky
> you.
>
Not so lucky me. I wasn't able to keep the copy of "The Fine Art..."
that I reviewed; it was owned by the Comics Journal and I had to
give it back when I was done. So that's $2000 that slipped through
my pudgy fingers...(moan).
--Dwight (Only a Poor Old Duck Fan) Decker
--------------------------------
End of dcomics Digest V96 Issue #1
**********************************
Jyrki Vainio
dcomics Digest V96 #1
Message 6 -
1996-01-02 at 12:28:29
PEKKA:
The leather-bound editionof the AA 1953 costs 500 FIM, so that's
about $100. The book is ned by the editors of the AA mag (!) -
they are doing that to prove that the numbering is genuine.
--- Jyrki
The leather-bound editionof the AA 1953 costs 500 FIM, so that's
about $100. The book is ned by the editors of the AA mag (!) -
they are doing that to prove that the numbering is genuine.
--- Jyrki
Mike Pohjola
Citizen McDuck
Message 7 -
1996-01-02 at 17:02:18
ALL:
I finally got access to WWW, so could all of you tell me addresses
of your home-pages, Disney pages and other comics-pages, please.
DON:
Movies just had their 100th birthday and so Finnish television
showed some all-time classics including Citizen Kane. And I must say,
it was a one good movie! And it cleared Lo$, too, especially Chapter 12.
There was an article about you in the Finnish Aku Ankka issue 1/96:
--
Aku Ankkas 46th annual volume begun. But let us still put our minds
to the last year's number one duck event. That was of course the American
duck artist Don Rosa's visit to Finland. At these degrees of latitude
he has become almost as famous as duck-father Carl Barks himself.
Don Rosa told, that nowhere did he encounter such a friendly and
professional reception as here. ÄI think they got that from my letter, where
I told them what you had commented in the NetÅ Don wrote his famous
autograph thousands of times on book titlepages, magazine covers, autograph
pads, posters, and on enigmatic pieces of paper. Dozens of lucky people
Äthank you, Don!Å managed to get also a Rosa-drawn picture of a Disney
character. Fans crowded in thousands as well in the Comics Festival as
in books-stores and malls.
Ca. one hundred Äthat's many in FinlandÅ newspapers and magazines
notified Don's visit and all the main radio and tv stations, too. We can
hardly wait for Uncle Scrooge's 50th anniversary next year. Then a friend
of Finland proclaimed Don Rosa will again come to entertain his fans.
--
With the article is a picture of you smiling and the text:
Don Rosa's visit was the highlight of the duck-year.
--
Is this true?! You'll be here.. ugh... 1997, after almost two years?
Any idea when? Did you _really_ like Finland? Will you do me a color-drawing
then? What Rosa story will next appear in Egmont issues? The Once and
Future McDuck? Something earlier?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
I finally got access to WWW, so could all of you tell me addresses
of your home-pages, Disney pages and other comics-pages, please.
DON:
Movies just had their 100th birthday and so Finnish television
showed some all-time classics including Citizen Kane. And I must say,
it was a one good movie! And it cleared Lo$, too, especially Chapter 12.
There was an article about you in the Finnish Aku Ankka issue 1/96:
--
Aku Ankkas 46th annual volume begun. But let us still put our minds
to the last year's number one duck event. That was of course the American
duck artist Don Rosa's visit to Finland. At these degrees of latitude
he has become almost as famous as duck-father Carl Barks himself.
Don Rosa told, that nowhere did he encounter such a friendly and
professional reception as here. ÄI think they got that from my letter, where
I told them what you had commented in the NetÅ Don wrote his famous
autograph thousands of times on book titlepages, magazine covers, autograph
pads, posters, and on enigmatic pieces of paper. Dozens of lucky people
Äthank you, Don!Å managed to get also a Rosa-drawn picture of a Disney
character. Fans crowded in thousands as well in the Comics Festival as
in books-stores and malls.
Ca. one hundred Äthat's many in FinlandÅ newspapers and magazines
notified Don's visit and all the main radio and tv stations, too. We can
hardly wait for Uncle Scrooge's 50th anniversary next year. Then a friend
of Finland proclaimed Don Rosa will again come to entertain his fans.
--
With the article is a picture of you smiling and the text:
Don Rosa's visit was the highlight of the duck-year.
--
Is this true?! You'll be here.. ugh... 1997, after almost two years?
Any idea when? Did you _really_ like Finland? Will you do me a color-drawing
then? What Rosa story will next appear in Egmont issues? The Once and
Future McDuck? Something earlier?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Per Starback
WWW pages
Message 8 -
1996-01-02 at 17:13:51
Mike wrote:
> I finally got access to WWW, so could all of you tell me addresses
> of your home-pages, Disney pages and other comics-pages, please.
The address for the WWW pages associated with this list is of course
mentioned in the welcome message for the list that I so urgently
always recommend that you should save for a rainy day when you want to
know anything in it.
Some people prefer to put up their own related pages instead of being
part of these pages. In those cases I try to put up links to those
pages from "my" pages, so I think you can reach most of that from
there. (Please tell me about anything that's missing in private
mail.)
As for members home-pages there's the list of introduc(k)tions (also
available from those pages), where I hope to get links to home pages
of most people on the list who have those. Please tell me (in private
mail) if you want to be added to it.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> I finally got access to WWW, so could all of you tell me addresses
> of your home-pages, Disney pages and other comics-pages, please.
The address for the WWW pages associated with this list is of course
mentioned in the welcome message for the list that I so urgently
always recommend that you should save for a rainy day when you want to
know anything in it.
Some people prefer to put up their own related pages instead of being
part of these pages. In those cases I try to put up links to those
pages from "my" pages, so I think you can reach most of that from
there. (Please tell me about anything that's missing in private
mail.)
As for members home-pages there's the list of introduc(k)tions (also
available from those pages), where I hope to get links to home pages
of most people on the list who have those. Please tell me (in private
mail) if you want to be added to it.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Per Starback
WWW pages
Message 9 -
1996-01-02 at 18:16:45
By the way, I think it would be nice to have some sort of small logo
in the corner of all the Disney comics WWW pages for greater uniformity.
Nothing fancy I think, and rather small (= not distracting from the
contents of the pages and quick to transfer).
That picture would have to in some way be easy to associate with
Disney comics but should nevertheless not in anyway inflict on
Disney's copyrights or trademarks.
Maybe a typical dog-nose or a typical white-gloved four-fingered hand?
Such a hand with some specific gesture or holding something? Does
anyone have any good ideas? Does anyone volunteer to actually draw
something? (Don??)
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
in the corner of all the Disney comics WWW pages for greater uniformity.
Nothing fancy I think, and rather small (= not distracting from the
contents of the pages and quick to transfer).
That picture would have to in some way be easy to associate with
Disney comics but should nevertheless not in anyway inflict on
Disney's copyrights or trademarks.
Maybe a typical dog-nose or a typical white-gloved four-fingered hand?
Such a hand with some specific gesture or holding something? Does
anyone have any good ideas? Does anyone volunteer to actually draw
something? (Don??)
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Per Starback
Some old mail
Message 10 -
1996-01-02 at 19:57:18
I'm replying to old mail here...
Torsten wrote:
> One: The new name of the digest. I thought someone had sent me a list
> discussing DC Comics!
I felt a bit guilty about first asking everyone what they thought
would be a better name for the list, then just go ahead and change it
months afterwards to something I never even suggested earlier.
And I thought about the possibility of false associations to DC
Comics, but I didn't think it would matter.
The main reason I did change the name after all (even though most
subscribers who said something about it thought I shouldn't) was
because the address got to be so darn long otherwise.
Later Torsten commented on "Let Sleeping Bones Lie":
> Pluto (YES, Pluto), the troop mascot, slips a sprig of pie-eyedus wierdus
> nightmarus into Scrooge's tea.
Barks used the normal official dog of the woodchucks in this (and
others I think) stories he wrote for Junior Woodchucks after he
stopped drawing them. It was the editors who substituted the more
well-known Pluto.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Torsten wrote:
> One: The new name of the digest. I thought someone had sent me a list
> discussing DC Comics!
I felt a bit guilty about first asking everyone what they thought
would be a better name for the list, then just go ahead and change it
months afterwards to something I never even suggested earlier.
And I thought about the possibility of false associations to DC
Comics, but I didn't think it would matter.
The main reason I did change the name after all (even though most
subscribers who said something about it thought I shouldn't) was
because the address got to be so darn long otherwise.
Later Torsten commented on "Let Sleeping Bones Lie":
> Pluto (YES, Pluto), the troop mascot, slips a sprig of pie-eyedus wierdus
> nightmarus into Scrooge's tea.
Barks used the normal official dog of the woodchucks in this (and
others I think) stories he wrote for Junior Woodchucks after he
stopped drawing them. It was the editors who substituted the more
well-known Pluto.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Per Starback
Digest contents
Message 11 -
1996-01-02 at 21:40:14
The contents section of the digests will now list the authors as well
as the subjects again.
(And I post this mostly to see if it really works as intended.)
as the subjects again.
(And I post this mostly to see if it really works as intended.)
Cdoberman
Some old mail
Message 12 -
1996-01-02 at 22:24:34
Per:
I just want to publicly thank you for the work you've done on this list. I
think we all notice a considerable difference in the number of "unsubscribe"
messages getting through.
-- Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman
I just want to publicly thank you for the work you've done on this list. I
think we all notice a considerable difference in the number of "unsubscribe"
messages getting through.
-- Wes
"But, Mickey! It's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" -- Captain Doberman
Don Rosa
dcomics Digest V96 #1
Message 13 -
1996-01-03 at 00:50:00
ARTHUR:
When I said I'd tell you what I was working on anytime you asked, I
meant that you should ask every few months, not once a week. I'm still
working on that short "gag" story with Magica De Spell.
As for what I "plan" to work on in 1996, I don't plan ahead like
that, so I can't tell you. Once I finish one story and send it to Byron, I
call him and I ask "$crooge or Donald, how many pages?" And only then do I
start thinking about what that story will be. I have a long list of ideas
for adventure stories, but I never know which one I'll pick to do next.
However, I think I have mentioned that I hope to do one more chapter
in the "Lo$" every year... and the next chapter I'd *probably* do is the
story set in Pizen Bluff, Arizona, in 18-something or other.
I should finish this 16-page Magica story by the first of February.
Ask me again then what I'm gonna do next.
When I said I'd tell you what I was working on anytime you asked, I
meant that you should ask every few months, not once a week. I'm still
working on that short "gag" story with Magica De Spell.
As for what I "plan" to work on in 1996, I don't plan ahead like
that, so I can't tell you. Once I finish one story and send it to Byron, I
call him and I ask "$crooge or Donald, how many pages?" And only then do I
start thinking about what that story will be. I have a long list of ideas
for adventure stories, but I never know which one I'll pick to do next.
However, I think I have mentioned that I hope to do one more chapter
in the "Lo$" every year... and the next chapter I'd *probably* do is the
story set in Pizen Bluff, Arizona, in 18-something or other.
I should finish this 16-page Magica story by the first of February.
Ask me again then what I'm gonna do next.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Woodchucks and dogs
Message 14 -
1996-01-03 at 01:25:28
PER:
> Barks used the normal official dog of the woodchucks in this (and
> others I think) stories he wrote for Junior Woodchucks after he
> stopped drawing them. It was the editors who substituted the more
> well-known Pluto.
If I counted right, there were three Woodchuck-scripts in which they
have a dog. These stories are "Let Sleeping Bones Lie" (JW 8), "Hound
of the Moaning Hills" (JW 12) and "The Day the Mountain Shook" (JW 13).
In "Let Sleeping Bones Lie" Barks intented the official hound. In "The
Day the Mountain Shook", Pluto was already included in the script.
There's no script available of the in between "Hound of the Moaning
Hills" (at least not at the time of printing the CBL).
Does someone here know if Pluto was already used in the script of this
"Moaning Hills" story? I heard that the scripts were first handed to
Mike Barrier, does he say anything about it in his book?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
> Barks used the normal official dog of the woodchucks in this (and
> others I think) stories he wrote for Junior Woodchucks after he
> stopped drawing them. It was the editors who substituted the more
> well-known Pluto.
If I counted right, there were three Woodchuck-scripts in which they
have a dog. These stories are "Let Sleeping Bones Lie" (JW 8), "Hound
of the Moaning Hills" (JW 12) and "The Day the Mountain Shook" (JW 13).
In "Let Sleeping Bones Lie" Barks intented the official hound. In "The
Day the Mountain Shook", Pluto was already included in the script.
There's no script available of the in between "Hound of the Moaning
Hills" (at least not at the time of printing the CBL).
Does someone here know if Pluto was already used in the script of this
"Moaning Hills" story? I heard that the scripts were first handed to
Mike Barrier, does he say anything about it in his book?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
Wilmer Rivers
We make the news (unfortunately)
Message 15 -
1996-01-03 at 04:45:02
I know this is old news, and it's been discussed on the List before,
but it's still scary to see it in print. From the Comics Buyers Guide
number 1156, dated January 12, 1996:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Krig I Andeby" or "War in Duckburg" is the headline of a feature story
in the Sept. 30 issue of the Denmark newspaper Ekstra Bladet. The
article, written by Hans Bjerregaard based on Internet postings about
Don Rosa's difficulties with Disney, Carl Barks, and his Danish
publisher, Egmont, was highly critical of Rosa.
Rosa is not directly quoted in the piece, which is drawn entirely from
Internet postings attributed to Rosa.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm glad to see this excellent E-zine receiving notice in the comics-
related press, but not this way.
Wilmer Rivers
but it's still scary to see it in print. From the Comics Buyers Guide
number 1156, dated January 12, 1996:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Krig I Andeby" or "War in Duckburg" is the headline of a feature story
in the Sept. 30 issue of the Denmark newspaper Ekstra Bladet. The
article, written by Hans Bjerregaard based on Internet postings about
Don Rosa's difficulties with Disney, Carl Barks, and his Danish
publisher, Egmont, was highly critical of Rosa.
Rosa is not directly quoted in the piece, which is drawn entirely from
Internet postings attributed to Rosa.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm glad to see this excellent E-zine receiving notice in the comics-
related press, but not this way.
Wilmer Rivers