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On Jan 12, 11:47am, David A Gerstein wrote:

> DDA 37 ... John told me that, as he remembered it, one of your
> translations (will be in) it, Dwight. I'll look forward to it.
>
Thanks for the notification. I just hope (a) The letterer didn't
make any typos, and (b) The scripter didn't make any boneheaded
boners of his own.

--Dwight Decker

JAKOB:
No, I don't call them "Fleece Markets" because of finding something
as valuable as the Golden Fleece -- quite the opposite. One way to sum it up
is that 20 years ago (pre "collectibles" price guides), an old comic book
(for instance) that a comic dealer would charge $5 for, you might find at a
flea market for 50 cents. Nowadays (post price guides), an old comic book
that a comic dealer would charge $5 for, you might find at a Fleece Market
for no less than $20 and in not better than "fair" condition. Seldom if ever
can one find something reasonably priced at Fleece Markets -- they seem to
prey on people who are not aware that there are specialty dealers in such
old merchandise who know how to grade and are otherwise knowledgeable in
their wares. So, you go there to be Fleeced, unless you know your stuff.

DAVE R.:
Welcome back -- where have you been?

Go to ProCon? But isn't that where they discuss negotiating
contracts and royalties and so forth?!

Hello Kathy,

Sorry to be so very late in responding to your message. I just spent two
weeks in Miami--am glad to be back, since it is much warmer and pleasanter
in Colorado!

On Fri, 22 Dec 1995, kathy fitzpatrick wrote:

> I am a longtime Zorro fan. There were some new Zorro comics out about 5-7
> years ago. Are those the ones you refer to. It didn't last long
> unfortunately, but I have the issues. Do you remember the episode that
> Annette appeared in?

The Marvel ZORRO Comics I have aren't that old, I think. There were
twelve of them total, and they were based on the Ted Turner (or was it
Family Channel) tv series. Frankly, I didn't like the show and the comics
were even worse. The recent Topps run of nine comics was much better in
both art and writing, but rather risque. That series has been ended and
replaced by the execrable "Lady Rawhide" which I will leave to your
imagination.

The old Dells and Gold Key reprints were from the Disney tv show. Yes, I
recall the eps in which Annette appeared, and the comics based on her
appearance there are worth slightly more than the others. Did I mention
that Eclipse Comics reprinted all of the Disney ZORRO Comics which were
penned by Alex Toth?

> Two of my sisters and I were about 5, 7, and 9 the first year Zorro came
> out. That Halloween we were invited to a Halloween Party. The only problem
> was that we all three wanted to go as Zorro that year. My Mother sighed a
> great sigh after realizing she was not going to convince us it would be
> silly for all three of us to go as Zorro, she helped us all put together our
> Zorro costumes. It was great fun and in total there were probably about 8
> or 9 other Zorro's at the party.

The show was a big hit. I remember envying my brothers, who both had the
Aladdin ZORRO metal lunchboxes with thermos. A good one now would be
worth over $50.00. Dressing up as Zorro was a fun thing in our
neighborhood, too, and all of us participated at one time or another.

The parents must have had a good laugh.
> Watching the Zorro show was a family thing. We LOVED Guy Williams then.
> Actually Sergeant Garcia was our other favorite. He tried to be so tought
> but was actually afraid of Zorro and bumbled around him. Yet one wonders if
> he didn't, in fact, have some sympathy for the cause Zorro represented as he
> had no real respect for his superior and often corrupt officers.

I think it's pretty clear that Garcia has much sympathy for Zorro and his
cause. He was a weak person though and of course was duty-bound to obey his
officers. Zorro uses Garcia to obtain needed information, but does not
cruelly exploit him as do the officers.

I taped most of the eps a few years back before Disney (unwisely, IMHO)
colorized the series. In replaying them, I noticed an editing gaffe in
one ep. Zorro familiarly leaps from a balcony onto Tornado (ouch!)
Suddenly, a hand holding the horse's bridle disappears behind the wall :-)

Kind regards,

Melanie

Dear DON:

I know this is a Disney newsgroup and we, more or less, focus on Disney
comics, but can I ask you a few other questions concerning your work as a
consultant on DC's Greatest Stories Ever Told series.

1) Did you consult on any other books besides the Superman one?

2) What stories what you have liked included in the volumes that weren't?
For the Superman one, I really wish they could have included Alan Moore's
final two-part Superman story that he wrote in 86. Now, that was a
sendoff that was handled with respect and love (especially, as regards to
continuity). I really wish DC would continue those anthologies of
pre-Crisis stories. Somehow, their stories were more uplifting and fun as
opposed to todays which either totally change continuity at a moment's
notice or are getting more and more negative.

I think that's why I'm mostly reading Disney these days.

James

Marco Rota has a new story in Scandinavian weeklies #3/1996.
D 94240, DD in "A Sheepy Story", is all of 14 pages long and takes
Donald and Scrooge to Hostokbagy in Hungary to acquire some sheep.
Donald has a few clashes with rams, and to my surprise comes out losing.
In the end however Donald's skills as a fisherman paves way for a bargain,
and Donald pulls out a contract, which Scrooge signs without even
looking at it!? A feeble excuse about being in a hurry doesn't fit
in with the general pace of the story, and Rota's eagerness to have
Donald fill the role as 'hero' of the story is though a rare sight
also - IMHO - quite out of character.
I'd have fewer problems with reading this story, if Donald's part had
been played by Gladstone.
Nice art as usual, but please somebody write him a STORY!

Swedish monthly, which consisted of a bi-monthly double issue, has
gone monthly and is now probably identical to the Norwegian and Danish isues.

The monthly Danish Scrooge pocket, now almost exclusively consisting of
Topolino reprints, has gone bi-weekly again as in 1980-85. Thus Denmark
publishes 450+ pages of Topolino reprints a month, and the production
only being about 250 pages, there's a chance that older stories, previously
unpublished in Denmark, may appear.

DAVID about the Italian/Brazilian/Danish newspaper article:
> Also, Rosa has never used Mad Madam Mim in his stories. The
>only Duck stories to use Madam Mim were drawn by Tony Strobl; I'm not
>sure who wrote them.

Actually Mad Madam Mim is fairly popular in Denmark. She is used
as a eco-conscient and anti-authoritarian role-model to children I
take it. Usually she helps children, and sometimes even J.Woodchucks.
A single story from popped from my index: AA #12/1991 (D 89136).
There are fairy many witches around Duckburg, even counting Hazel
and her Italian counterpart, Nocciola, as one. And they are BTW
human like Moe, i.e. with 'real' noses. Scary.

DON about the same article:
> I wonder if that Danish writer ever had the wild thought of calling up
> the Danish comics office to check a few facts?

I'm sure he didn't. He probably was in pains of reporting anything
significant, and an hour before headline he jotted something down
from a paper in his hotel room and phoned it in.
A month later, the promised revelatory sequel hasn't appeared.
Recently Jyllands-Posten became Denmark's top daily newspaper,
and a lot of the readers probably read Anders And & Co. too.
I believe it's still comic book #1 around here.

> Where exactly do such wild bits of misinformation enter into this trail of
> reporting? A few mistakes in Italy, a few more in Brazil, a few more in
> Denmark -- mistakes in reporting already mistaken facts? Wow -- what a
> snowball!

You are not incinerating *I* didn't translate correctedly I hope!
I was at least *looking* at the article while reporting it, and didn't make
parts of it up, like I suspect did poor Jakob in Rio.
But information sure decays in funny ways.

> I think I said that I'd be getting to my next story around the first
> week of February. And I didn't say it would definitely be that "Pizen Bluff"
> chapter. I do what my bosses tell me. We'll see...

"Of Ducks...&c." isn't part of Lo$ but the upcoming Pizen Bluff
story is; I assume "Hearts of the Yukon" goes without saying.
It will appear in issues 4-7/1996 in the DK/NO/SW/FI/IS area, and
probably around there too in Germany and UK.

But I don't remember you ever taking anything but requests from
your publishers/editors? Do they really tell you: "We want you to
do a 24 page follow up to "Goldiducks & the 3 Bears". And don't forget
Mad Madam Mim!" I imagined you'd call them up and say "...oh, and I
was thinking of maybe, like doing a story with the little guy from
"Volcano Valley" or someone." "That's GREAT. Very popular story,
everybody loves it. When do we get it? Would you like an extra issue?"

Don, I hope you did get the English issue of Carl Barks & Co. that I sent
you shortly before Christmas. I enclosed a copy of Marco Rota's viking story
(the long version) because you apparently was surprised to know there *was*
a longer version than the one in DDAdv.

TORSTEN about a WWW icon:
> I think the Junior Woodchucks of the World logo would be very appropriate.

Perfect! I was considering the MM front silhouet (famous from Harry's ()()
signatures!), for it's obvious graphical merits, but it would be a bit ()
of an irony for this list. A unique symbol created by the master himself
for an organization of helpful and knowledgeloving people and their
'holy book' is infinitely better. It even defies discussion.
Can anyone BTW think of other original symbols appearing in Duck/Mice
stories? Now there was the Bat Bandit's sign, and the Blot...

MIKKO "discussing about the dark shadows that ruins the whole industry":
> What do people get for their money when they buy a trading card. Nothing.

Well, they do get a piece of art in durable material at a low cost.
If you bought posters or lithographies, they'd cost you a fortune, and
you'd quickly get storage/display space problems. (Not to mention the
rainforests, but you Fins don't mind the paper prices going up, eh;)

But seriously, I'm not about to start no war (even if you are knocking
my other hobby), and gladly admit there's an awful, shmawful lot of
cool speculation in the industry, but at least it's more honest about
it than the comic book scene. Witness for instance Bruce Hamilton
turning WDC&S into a collectible; a prestige format (whatever that
literally means) investment catalog guaranteed to be an investment in
itself! But I bought one, and I liked it. If Bruce decides that
it will be a limited and numbered edition with holograms from the
tentative 1999 feature "The Old Master's Secret", I trust he'll
have an unlimited version alongside for cheapskates like me.
If that's what it takes to publish mice in the USA, I can live with it.

In Swedish Kalle Anka two recent issues had a card from the Skybox(TM)'s
collectors cards of Pocahontas, with the legend "What card will YOU get?"
The trick being, that the 150+ different cards are randomly inserted
into the issues, so each kid gets his or her very own and special card.
A collector is born. Some say every second.

Then there are trading card GAMES...

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...and then I spin-warped him at +4 with BOTH my blixed fnords! Har-har!

--Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen
c/o (Email removed)

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Since I was a kid I always read the danish Jumbo books for sheer entertainment.
The stories were longer and the plots somewhat weird. Recently a
icelandic publishing firm started printing these books in icelandic and
doing a pretty good job too.
Anyway I started browsing through them again, expecting to find them
somewhat silly and childish but the books really surprised me. The
stories are varied in style and quality but two things stood out. The
main story is often very good with a good portion of (somewhat) adult
humor in between.
The second feature is, in nearly every book, a Disney version of some
fameous literary work. It seems that the more famous citizens of
Duckburg have enrolled in the local theater and are constantly putting
up a new show every month. The artwork is beautiful and the story
is genuinly funny.
It seems that the italians are really putting more into their stories.

Sigurdur Hrafn

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