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Torsten Wesley Adair
What logo should be used for the Disney comics Web pages?

Well, considering the knowledge available there, I think the Junior
Woodchucks of the World logo would be very appropriate.

Torsten Adair (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA
Deckerd
On Jan 5, 7:58pm, Fluks wrote:
> Subject: Dutch lettering

> You're not referring to Dutch *Disney* comics, are you? These
> have been computer lettered since 1985 (using a "hand-written"
> font).
>
Actually, I was referring to Dutch Disney comics (among others),
and somebody had mentioned on the ML a time or two that they were
being 'pooter-lettered. I was remarking more on the fact that
the lettering was using both upper and lower case instead of
all capital letters (as in American comics). I rather like the
look of the lettering with upper and lower case, and wish
American comics might do that more.

Speaking of lettering...a friend in Germany sent me a copy of
a Russian edition of a Mickey Mouse comic book that had turned
up in the local bookstore/newsstand. It's lettered in a sans-serif
typeset Cyrillic that doesn't look too bad in the word balloons,
but really looks clumsy when they try to use it for signs and
sound effects. Let's face it: there's just no substitute for a
good human hand-letterer...though with the way computer lettering
is developing, I might not be able to say that in five years.

--Dwight Decker

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Mike Pohjola
DON:
Yep, Lo$ #1 and #2 haven't yet been printed in Finland. I still
wouldn't have had a chance to read them if I hadn't found an album in
Germany where those two episodes (along with Give Unto Others) were
printed. I somehow understood what happened (even that Scrooge visited
Louisville :) but since the books were in German, I found lots of the text
difficult to understand. Btw, in Lo$ #2 you mentioned "Mark Twain" and
"Sawyer", but no "Finn"!
I figure you'll be doing "Pizen Bluff" by now (you said it takes you
app. one day per page) so: Does it really have Daltons in it? (it's just that
the Daltons (even if it isn't THE daltons) are at least in Europe often
connected with Lucky Luke comics)

> When did I ever say there was a 28 page version of "tLCoC"? Perhaps

Well, I'll be darned... Couple of days ago when I was just checking
Don Rosa index, it said that there were two versions of the story, other one
being 28 pages long and they only printed 24 pages in Finland or sumpin.
Now when I looked again, not only did I notice that all mentions it being
in two versions had been removed, I also see that some evil witch had
exorcised all info about the story from the file!

Did you just say Helsinki Media is in the Net? Does Aku Ankka or
its editors have their own e-mail address now? What is it? Are they on
the list?

--

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Augie De Blieck Jr.
OK, that's the best title I could come up with.

For those of you who have access to Wizard Magazine, the new one which
just came out last week or the week previous has an article in it on hoe
to letter comic books, co-written by Disney Comics Mailing List's own
Todd Klein. Yep, there's even a picture of him in there - full color.
Interesting article, too. (Arthur: I'll send you a copy of this article
with everything else.)

Also:

Has anyone seen if the new Comics Journal has come out yet? It was
supposed to come out a couple of weeks ago with Don's interview in it,
but I haven't seen it yet. (And there's no getting to a bookstore today
to check - I'm buried under 2 and a half feet of snow right now! I love
it, too, Don!)

-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr.
(Email removed)
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Mikko Aittola
Don:

Yes, the parts one and two of the Lo$ were never printed
in Finland. Don't know why.
Of course, that doen't bother me much, because I have
the Gladstone versions.

David (about DDMM #4):

Please, this 'buy multiple issues' is not good. Partly because
of that even the 'big' companies in US (like Marvel, DC
and Image) are in trouble.

Comics are for READING.

If somebody wants to 'encourage' Gladstone, the best way to do
that (after donating money directly them or running ads in DDMM :-) )
is to tell your friends about the books.

(And while we are discussing about the dark shadows that ruins the
whole industry, I might add that I have never really understood
trading cards. What do people get for their money when they buy
a trading card. Nothing.)

If somebody has too much money to spend on comics one should buy
multiple TITLES instead of copies.

/Mikko
Don Rosa
DAN:

>Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 09:47:13 -0500
>From: Dan Shane <(Email removed)>
>I always feel bad when
>I'm at a flea market or a similar event and wind up acquiring a
>hard-sought-after item that another collector would also like to have.
>The only way I can ever think of covering that sin is by freely
>distributing extra goodies I come up with, just as Mike did that nice
>little $crooge bank for me.
>
>We're all in this together.

You'll never make the ranks of "collectibles lout" with an
antiquated attitude like that! You're supposed to hoard extra copies or
items so you can profit from your fellow "collectors".
But Barry is also a relic of a bygone age. If you send that book to
him, you'll probably soon start getting free stuff sent to you in return...
I suffer under the problem of getting free stuff Barry has found for me sent
to my door unexpectedly. At that same Fleece Market I found extra copies of
DONALD DUCK AND THE BOYS (1948)and DONALD'S CHRISTMAS CAROL (1960). I'm
sending them to Barry, but first I had to make him promise not to pay me for
them, which is what I was sure he'd automatically do even after all his
favors to me. What can you do with oddballs like that?
But that was an ultimate Fleece Market for Carl Barks storybooks --
we found all three! The LEMONADE KING and DONALD'S CHRISTMAS CAROL (actually
an Uncle $crooge book), which are both based on Barks pencils drawings...
and DONALD AND THE BOYS, the 1948 storybook which was the only non-comic
book item in those decades with all-new, all-Barks art.

NEAL:
You're absolutely right! I actually hate abbreviations and nicknames
myself. During my years of writing fanzine articles about comics history, I
never would refer to Superman as "Supes" or Spider-Man as "Spidey" or
"Webhead". And yet I slowly found myself answering questions here about my
stories using the questioners' abbreviations -- I guess I always feel like
I'm responding just to that individual rather than the group, and I know the
questioner will recognize his own abbreviation.
"Lo$"=The Life and Times of $crooge McDuck"; "tGotLL"=The Guardians
of the Lost Library; "tLCoC"=The Lost Charts of Columbus; "HotY"=Hearts of
the Yukon; "ODaDaD"=Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies (though this one might
become "ODDaD" since Gladstone's English reprint left one of the purposely
repititive "and"s out of the title, losing the Lewis Carrol sound -- they
must have thought I was stuttering).
Anyway, you're right! I won't use abbreviations anymore. From now on
it's NMA*!

(*"No more abbreviations")
Harry Fluks
Well, this is unique. Don Rosa actually *quoted* someone else's message.
I had to look twice before I believed the message was really from Don! 8-)

Also, Don wrote:
> DONALD AND THE BOYS, the 1948 storybook which was the only non-comic
> book item in those decades with all-new, all-Barks art.

Years ago, somewhere in the 70s or early 80s, the Finnish fanzine
Sarjainfo said this book was probably "the rarest Barks book in the
world". At that time, I saw it on a Dutch comic convention, for sale
at 100 guilders, which was about $40. I didn't buy it,
because I didn't have the money (this is VERY long ago 8-).

Would you think "Donald and the Boys" is rare, very rare, or even
"the rarest" today?

> Anyway, you're right! I won't use abbreviations anymore. From now on
> it's NMA*! (*"No more abbreviations")

I hope you make an exception for Junior Woodchucks officers in your
stories, Don! 8-)

--Harry.
Henri Sivonen
I think Helsinki Media should in addition to printing Lo$ 1&2 revise the
translations. For example John Rockerduck is translated like he was John D.
Rockefeller with duck merged with his name. So they didn't use the Finnish
name of that character.
Does anyone know how "Whiskervilles" was translated in the first Finnish
publication of "The Hound of the Whiskervilles"? At least the name in the
reprint is different to the name used in Finnish version of Lo$.

--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed) WWW:
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris
Harry Fluks
I have a request for our Scandinavian, German (and maybe other) list
members:

Please inform me when a Dutch story drawn by Mau Heymans is reprinted
in your country. Or any other short (4-6 pages) story with a H-code.
Dutch writer Frank Jonker likes to know this, because a lot of these
stories were written by him. (An exact list of his stories can be found
in the ftp file "Jonker.story-index" in directory
/pub/comics/disney/index/creators)

Thanks in advance!

--Harry.

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Pekka Frobozz
MIKKO:
If I remember correctly (#include /std/disclaimers.h) I read somewhere
(probably on the editorial page of Aku Ankka) that the editors said that
Lo$ 1 and 2 were not part of the package they had bought, and it would have
been too expensive to buy those two parts separately.

//Pekka Timonen ((Email removed))
David A Gerstein
DON and everyone:
People talk and talk about "DD and the Boys," and how it's
adapted by Barks from his WDC&S 74 (bill-collecting) ten-pager.
Another book in the series is "DD and his Cat Troubles."
Although it's illustrated by Al Taliaferro, it's a
point-for-point adaptation of Barks' story in WDC&S 76 ("The
Cantankerous Cat")! How do you like those apples?
THERE'S something most people don't know is from a Barks
story...
And I've seen a mid-1940s Spanish children's book adapting the
ten-pagers from WDC&S 46 and 49 with beautiful watercolor
illustrations (with big pie-cuts in the eyes -- they try to mimic
Barks' style). I don't know if this is based on an English
production, or if it was first made in a foreign language.
I have neither of these books; the Spanish one's in my
library back in Santa Barbara, while the "Cat Troubles" book was at a
used book store I visited ~ 2 years ago.

David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Dan Shane
DON:

Don't worry. I insisted that no remuneration was required. To quote Pa
Prescott (figure out who that is), "I set out years ago not to be rich
and I've succeeded right well, too."
Mauricio Saldivar
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Don Rosa
MIKE:
Yes, that second chapter of the $crooge bio did have the word
"sawyer" in it, but not as in "Tom Sawyer". This was the sawyer that Mark
Twain probably named Tom from. (It's a tree that gets stuck in the river mud
and bounces up dangerously due to the pressure of the water current.)
I think I said that I'd be getting to my next story around the first
week of February. And I didn't say it would definitely be that "Pizen Bluff"
chapter. I do what my bosses tell me. We'll see...
All of the editorial staff (perhaps everyone) at Helsinki Media has
Internet addresses. But I guess I should let them publish those addresses
themselves if they're interested in getting e-mail from Duck fans.

AUGIE:
The COMICS JOURNAL with my interview is not out yet, but it soon
will be. But don't look forward to it -- it's 7 years old!!! I can't imagine
there's much in there that you don't know. Besides, you can ask me
first-hand questions here every day -- that's infinitely better than a
magazine interview, right? Anyway, the interview is in two parts, and there
is an modern update in part two -- though still containing nothing that
people on here don't already know, even if they're interested.

HARRY:
Is the DONALD AND THE BOYS book rare? Well, I'd say it is... but
what makes an item expensive is how many people are looking for it. Since
it's a storybook, it is not sought after much by comic collectors which is
what Barks fans are. So in the (ugh) price guides that deal with children's
storybooks, that book is not much more highly prized than any other Disney
book. I'd say it's QUITE hard to find, but it still doesn't command a very
high price since there are not that many people interested or who know about
it. Remember there aren't as many people in America looking for Barks items
as there are in Europe.
In fact, there are two different dealers at this local Fleece Market
that have had MINT copies of the book for 4 or more years, priced at
$25-$30, and they CAN'T sell them since no one in these parts is interested.
I would have long ago bought them if I were interested in making a profit,
but I always left them where they were, thinking a deserving collector would
someday buy them. (I'd already paid *$80* for a copy some years ago!) I
wouldn't have bought that copy even yet if I hadn't asked Barry about it and
he said he didn't have one.
If I happen to again see that other mint copy, I'll gladly buy it
for someone here on the mailing list -- the price would probably be $25 or
so. Are you interested? The next Fleece Market won't be for some time. (Why
do I call it a "Fleece" market? Can you guess? This book is about the only
thing in the room that's reasonably priced.)
Jyrki Vainio
The Aku Ankka editors HAVE commented on their reasons for leaving
the first two episodes of Life of Scrooge out. That was in the
Helsinki comic festivals '94. If I remember correctly, they said
that the first two episodes where originally published by a
different publisher than the later ones (does this make sense?).
They said that the different Disney publishers have these strange
deals about who can reprint what, and that this particular
publisher hasn't make that kind of deal with OUR publisher, and
thus they must wait for years before they can reprint those
episodes. I they used the word "quarantine-time".

Does anyone else remember more? I remember that there was at
least one guy who said that he had talked with Don in the
internet. You, Henri, perhaps?

By the way (it was said: no abbreviations! So: no more IMHO's!;-)
is anyone of you planning to come to Angouleme this year? I know
that it will be extremely hard to actually FIND anyone there, but
I could try anyways...

--- Jyrki Vainio ---
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