MARCO:
The great quest for #179 is based on the theory that during the summer of 1980,
Western Publishing might have placed this book in a plastic bag with two
other Disney comics and released them to other than the usual drugstore
outlets.
When the young reader didn't see it on the outside of the bag, it was
not purchased. Also,there was probably a display problem because it wouldn't
fit in the usual wire rack spinner. Other books thought to be in a
three-pak during this time were WDC&S #480, Donald #222 and Daisy & Donald
#47.
There isn't a Scrooge completist that I know who doesn't agree that this is
the most difficult issue to find. I just let the marketplace determine what
the price would be...there were 4-5 people bidding on it.
Author
Topic: 199703
(168 messages)
Michael Naiman
U$ #179
Message 1 -
1997-03-01 at 04:18:51
Markoff
Beetle Bailey coincidence(?)
Message 2 -
1997-03-01 at 06:10:56
In the BEETLE BAILEY comic strip of February 27, 1997, Beetle mentions two
restaurants named *Don's* Diner and Mama *Rosa's* Pizzeria! Is this a
coincidence or what?
--Jonathan Markoff
restaurants named *Don's* Diner and Mama *Rosa's* Pizzeria! Is this a
coincidence or what?
--Jonathan Markoff
Alipio D'Oliveira Coelho
Disney comics Digest V97 #45
Message 3 -
1997-03-01 at 14:42:38
>ALIPIO (et al):
>Non list-member Joe Torcivia asked me the following about a 1980 Brazil=
> issue:
>
>"BTW, that Brazilian comic also had a Donald story by Jack Manning -- in
>which Don encountered a wizard and a cowardly great dane which was the image
>of Scooby Doo!!!! I guess that's one reason why we'll never see that one in
>America! Any of you digest group know anything about this - what the story
>was about? As I could never translate it even crudely?"
>
Could you give me more information about this comic (or this
story)? I think I can find it in my collection. Thanks.
Alipio
e-mail: (Email removed)
>Non list-member Joe Torcivia asked me the following about a 1980 Brazil=
> issue:
>
>"BTW, that Brazilian comic also had a Donald story by Jack Manning -- in
>which Don encountered a wizard and a cowardly great dane which was the image
>of Scooby Doo!!!! I guess that's one reason why we'll never see that one in
>America! Any of you digest group know anything about this - what the story
>was about? As I could never translate it even crudely?"
>
Could you give me more information about this comic (or this
story)? I think I can find it in my collection. Thanks.
Alipio
e-mail: (Email removed)
Marco Barlotti
Euro
Message 4 -
1997-03-01 at 16:36:15
KRYTON:
>
>I was under the impression that Italian currency is still the lira,
>and that switching to the Euro will not take effect before 1999.
>
Yes, it is now and we even don't know when (and if) we shall ever switch to
Euro. But I guess that anybody (in Europe, at least) knows the rate from HIS
currency to Euro (=ECU, as of now); while he might not know the rate from
his currency to Lira. For example, I don't know right now what is the rate
of the Dracma, or of the Peseta, or....; so if you give prices in Euro
everything comes out straighter... Don't you agree?
(and anyway, we DO have to practice that Euro a little in advance, don't we?)
Marco
<Inform all the trups that communications have completely broken down>
Ashleigh Brilliant
>
>I was under the impression that Italian currency is still the lira,
>and that switching to the Euro will not take effect before 1999.
>
Yes, it is now and we even don't know when (and if) we shall ever switch to
Euro. But I guess that anybody (in Europe, at least) knows the rate from HIS
currency to Euro (=ECU, as of now); while he might not know the rate from
his currency to Lira. For example, I don't know right now what is the rate
of the Dracma, or of the Peseta, or....; so if you give prices in Euro
everything comes out straighter... Don't you agree?
(and anyway, we DO have to practice that Euro a little in advance, don't we?)
Marco
<Inform all the trups that communications have completely broken down>
Ashleigh Brilliant
David Pecora
Disney comics Digest V97 #46
Message 5 -
1997-03-01 at 19:48:30
Please remove my name from your mailing list. I do not want to subscribe any-
more.
more.
Dale Cooper
Colorization of Gladstone albums
Message 6 -
1997-03-01 at 23:47:56
Hi. Are there any opinions on how well done the coloring in the Carl Barks
Gladstone albums is ? I've never read them in b&w, and I'm not really an
experienced comics reader anyway, but to me it seems that there's at least
one place in each album where there's some serious error, e.g. the desert
being blue and the oasis being brownish. And I'm really annoyed by the fact
the cover drawings are differently colored on the cover and in the album.
Gladstone albums is ? I've never read them in b&w, and I'm not really an
experienced comics reader anyway, but to me it seems that there's at least
one place in each album where there's some serious error, e.g. the desert
being blue and the oasis being brownish. And I'm really annoyed by the fact
the cover drawings are differently colored on the cover and in the album.
Dale Cooper
Colorization of Gladstone albums
Message 7 -
1997-03-01 at 23:49:23
Hi. Are there any opinions on how well done the coloring in the Carl Barks
Gladstone albums is ? I've never read them in b&w, and I'm not really an
experienced comics reader anyway, but to me it seems that there's at least
one place in each album where there's some serious error, e.g. the desert
being blue and the oasis being brownish. And I'm really annoyed by the fact
the cover drawings are differently colored on the cover and in the album.
Gladstone albums is ? I've never read them in b&w, and I'm not really an
experienced comics reader anyway, but to me it seems that there's at least
one place in each album where there's some serious error, e.g. the desert
being blue and the oasis being brownish. And I'm really annoyed by the fact
the cover drawings are differently colored on the cover and in the album.
Dale Cooper
Gladstone Don Rosa albums
Message 8 -
1997-03-01 at 23:49:24
Hi. I know Gladstone has released four albums called "The Life and Times of
Scrooge McDuck". Do these albums collect all the stories in this series Rosa
ever did, or will he/has he done more later ? If hes has, will they be
released as album five etc. in the same series ?
Also, a friend told me Gladstone would release more Rosa-albums this spring,
which would collect all stories Rosa has done so far in chronological order.
Is that correct ? And if so, will this series also include "The Life and
Times of Scrooge McDuck" ?
Scrooge McDuck". Do these albums collect all the stories in this series Rosa
ever did, or will he/has he done more later ? If hes has, will they be
released as album five etc. in the same series ?
Also, a friend told me Gladstone would release more Rosa-albums this spring,
which would collect all stories Rosa has done so far in chronological order.
Is that correct ? And if so, will this series also include "The Life and
Times of Scrooge McDuck" ?
Kriton Kyrimis
greek ducks
Message 9 -
1997-03-02 at 00:03:24
(Email removed):
> I'm new, so let's hope this works... Having lived in Greece for 13
> years, I had to put up with the local Disney publications, weekly 1/2
> A4 format. Some stories were ok, others artistically devoid of any
> interest. Some time at the end of the 80's, a monthly issue called
> Comix started going around, containing the 100 or so first duck
> stories by Jippes and Barx. Smashing success. All in Greek. At the
> beginning of each issue would be a text with the history of the
> story, including scenes either added or deleted. Currently I hear
> these issues go around for lotsa money, especially the first ones,
> but I can't really back this up for sure.
> right, I hope this was a satisfying introduction. Now let me ask:
> is the story of Donald and the treasure ( can't remember original
> title, it was Barx, and it had Pete, a parrot and the nephews) their
> first integral adventure? pardon my ignorance...
The story to which you are referring is "Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold",
drawn by Carl Barks and Jack Hannah, based on an unproduced Disney short
called "Morgan's Ghost". Quoting from Geoffrey Blum's article in Donald
Duck #250, "`Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold' is a triple first. It is
the first comic work of Carl Barks, the legendary artist who created
Uncle Scrooge and drew the Disney Ducks for twenty-five years. It is the
very first Donald Duck adventure story--a genre which Barks was to make
uniquely his own. And it is quite probably the first original adventure
drawn expressly for a funny animal comic--certainly a Disney comic."
"Pirate Gold" was published in Comics #25.
Speaking of Comics, it is currently printing Don's Life of Scrooge, and
issue #105, with Chapter 6, should be out by now. Most of the first three
dozen issues of Comics are sold out, but if you look around at used book
stores (e.g., in the Monastiraki district in Athens) some of these issues
can be found, although they show some wear and tear (the gloss on the
covers is usually gone, e.g.). A few months ago I found "Pirate Gold,"
e.g., for about 1200-1500 drachmas. Arthur believes I was ripped off,
but given that official back issue prices range from 600 to 2500 drachmas,
I'd say the price I paid for a sold out issue was just about fair.
[I'm probably fighting a losing battle here, but let me iterate that neat
as the name "Komix" might appear to non-Greeks, by reading the articles
in the comic book, it is plainly evident that it is nothing more than the
current greek rendition (untranslated and with a simplified spelling, like
many things in modern Greek :-( ) of the English word "comics".]
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Try and use your intelligence, man, even if you are a politician!"
-----
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> I'm new, so let's hope this works... Having lived in Greece for 13
> years, I had to put up with the local Disney publications, weekly 1/2
> A4 format. Some stories were ok, others artistically devoid of any
> interest. Some time at the end of the 80's, a monthly issue called
> Comix started going around, containing the 100 or so first duck
> stories by Jippes and Barx. Smashing success. All in Greek. At the
> beginning of each issue would be a text with the history of the
> story, including scenes either added or deleted. Currently I hear
> these issues go around for lotsa money, especially the first ones,
> but I can't really back this up for sure.
> right, I hope this was a satisfying introduction. Now let me ask:
> is the story of Donald and the treasure ( can't remember original
> title, it was Barx, and it had Pete, a parrot and the nephews) their
> first integral adventure? pardon my ignorance...
The story to which you are referring is "Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold",
drawn by Carl Barks and Jack Hannah, based on an unproduced Disney short
called "Morgan's Ghost". Quoting from Geoffrey Blum's article in Donald
Duck #250, "`Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold' is a triple first. It is
the first comic work of Carl Barks, the legendary artist who created
Uncle Scrooge and drew the Disney Ducks for twenty-five years. It is the
very first Donald Duck adventure story--a genre which Barks was to make
uniquely his own. And it is quite probably the first original adventure
drawn expressly for a funny animal comic--certainly a Disney comic."
"Pirate Gold" was published in Comics #25.
Speaking of Comics, it is currently printing Don's Life of Scrooge, and
issue #105, with Chapter 6, should be out by now. Most of the first three
dozen issues of Comics are sold out, but if you look around at used book
stores (e.g., in the Monastiraki district in Athens) some of these issues
can be found, although they show some wear and tear (the gloss on the
covers is usually gone, e.g.). A few months ago I found "Pirate Gold,"
e.g., for about 1200-1500 drachmas. Arthur believes I was ripped off,
but given that official back issue prices range from 600 to 2500 drachmas,
I'd say the price I paid for a sold out issue was just about fair.
[I'm probably fighting a losing battle here, but let me iterate that neat
as the name "Komix" might appear to non-Greeks, by reading the articles
in the comic book, it is plainly evident that it is nothing more than the
current greek rendition (untranslated and with a simplified spelling, like
many things in modern Greek :-( ) of the English word "comics".]
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Try and use your intelligence, man, even if you are a politician!"
-----
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BL9C6DMA
Barks on Barks ?
Message 10 -
1997-03-02 at 10:07:06
First, I'd like to express my gratitude to Kriton ( s'euxapisto
poli) for such a speedy response. Given my knowledge of Disney comics
history, I have the impression I'm not going to be answering any
queries... and here's another one !
During one of the mainy times I was going through Italy, I bought
an issue of Topolino which happened to feature a story on Barks. The
strips was fascinating, adroitely blending pics of the reporter and
Barks, Barks persuading Scrooge to star in his comics, the creation of
the the characters etc. While answering questions, Barks was wrapping
the finnishing touches on a litho and in the last few "boxes", it was
shipped in a van that took off in front of his home... Was that story
an event, or simply just another weekly story lika any other ? What
explains the success of Disney publications in Italy ( and the very
unfortunate absence of it in England )? thanks.
poli) for such a speedy response. Given my knowledge of Disney comics
history, I have the impression I'm not going to be answering any
queries... and here's another one !
During one of the mainy times I was going through Italy, I bought
an issue of Topolino which happened to feature a story on Barks. The
strips was fascinating, adroitely blending pics of the reporter and
Barks, Barks persuading Scrooge to star in his comics, the creation of
the the characters etc. While answering questions, Barks was wrapping
the finnishing touches on a litho and in the last few "boxes", it was
shipped in a van that took off in front of his home... Was that story
an event, or simply just another weekly story lika any other ? What
explains the success of Disney publications in Italy ( and the very
unfortunate absence of it in England )? thanks.
Harry Fluks
Greek comics
Message 11 -
1997-03-02 at 11:51:43
KRITON:
> I'm probably fighting a losing battle here, but let me iterate that neat
> as the name "Komix" might appear to non-Greeks, by reading the articles
> in the comic book, it is plainly evident that it is nothing more than the
> current greek rendition (untranslated and with a simplified spelling, like
> many things in modern Greek :-( ) of the English word "comics".
Still, I think one should transcribe the name as Komix, not Comics. First of all,
the name Comics is confusing in an English article (in your message, I didn't
get what you meant the first time I read the line "..was reprinted in Comics #25),
while Komix is clear at once.
But I also think the principle of "correcting" the "simplified" spelling is wrong.
You could also say that the Germans misspelled Mickey's name (Micky Maus),
so we should call the German weekly "Mickey Maus" from now on. Same reasoning.
--`Arri Phlyx.
> I'm probably fighting a losing battle here, but let me iterate that neat
> as the name "Komix" might appear to non-Greeks, by reading the articles
> in the comic book, it is plainly evident that it is nothing more than the
> current greek rendition (untranslated and with a simplified spelling, like
> many things in modern Greek :-( ) of the English word "comics".
Still, I think one should transcribe the name as Komix, not Comics. First of all,
the name Comics is confusing in an English article (in your message, I didn't
get what you meant the first time I read the line "..was reprinted in Comics #25),
while Komix is clear at once.
But I also think the principle of "correcting" the "simplified" spelling is wrong.
You could also say that the Germans misspelled Mickey's name (Micky Maus),
so we should call the German weekly "Mickey Maus" from now on. Same reasoning.
--`Arri Phlyx.
Harry Fluks
Gladstone Don Rosa albums
Message 12 -
1997-03-02 at 12:00:08
DALE:
> "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck". Do these albums collect
> all the stories in this series Rosa ever did, or will he/has he done more later?
The four albums reprint the 12 chapters Don did explicitly under the title "tLaTo$MD"
(usually abbreviatied Lo$).
Later he did some more stories about Scrooge's youth. They can be seen as separate
stories, but they fit in the timeline of Lo$. Don once sayd he plans to make one story
like this every year.
> Also, a friend told me Gladstone would release more Rosa-albums this spring,
> which would collect all stories Rosa has done so far in chronological order.
There will be 4 albums reprinting Don's Scrooge work from Gladstone's first run
(1987-1990). They don't include Don's later work (for Europe), hence they don't
include Lo$.
--Harry.
> "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck". Do these albums collect
> all the stories in this series Rosa ever did, or will he/has he done more later?
The four albums reprint the 12 chapters Don did explicitly under the title "tLaTo$MD"
(usually abbreviatied Lo$).
Later he did some more stories about Scrooge's youth. They can be seen as separate
stories, but they fit in the timeline of Lo$. Don once sayd he plans to make one story
like this every year.
> Also, a friend told me Gladstone would release more Rosa-albums this spring,
> which would collect all stories Rosa has done so far in chronological order.
There will be 4 albums reprinting Don's Scrooge work from Gladstone's first run
(1987-1990). They don't include Don's later work (for Europe), hence they don't
include Lo$.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
(Un)published Barks work
Message 13 -
1997-03-02 at 12:25:00
Yesterday, I bought Johnny Grote's book "Carl Barks - Werkverzeichnis
der Comics". It's a german book that contains a complete index of Barks'
comic work, including all USA and German reprints. This book was mentioned
on this list before. I saw in in shops several times, and I thought it wouldn't
contain any information I didn't know yet.
But there are some tiny details that are new to me:
1. The inside cover of Uncle Scrooge #45 contains an ad for Gold Key comics
"Bargain Offer!". This ad seems to contain a new drawing by Barks (fortunately,
it was printed in Grote's book).
2. About "Oddball Odyssey" (Uncle Scrooge #40), Grote says:
"The first version of the second page of this story (is preserved, but the black areas
weren't drawn) was returned to Barks, because the text balloons were 3 mm too
close to the border. For the rest there are no differences between the two pages."
Has anyone seen this returned page? Was it reprinted anywhere?
3. WDC #405 has a cover based on an idea for a Barks painting. Grote says
that the cover was drawn by Gare Barks ("in order to get it ready in time").
Is this true?
4. The cover of Walt Disney's Showcase #30 shows Scooge in the spell of
Magica de Spell. Grote says "the cover could be from Barks." The art indeed
looks like Barks.
Does anyone have more information?
5. The cover of The CB Library of Gyro Gearloose Comics and Fillers in Color #6
was by William Van Horn, based on a cover sketch by Barks. (Michael Naiman
shows this sketch in one of his magazines.)
Grote says that the cover was published in Germany (Micky Maus 3+4, 1972) and
France (Journal de Mickey 1084, 1973), drawn by an unknown artist.
What is the background of this cover?
(I asked this before, but got no reply.)
--Harry.
(Trying to get his Barks index 100% accurate...)
der Comics". It's a german book that contains a complete index of Barks'
comic work, including all USA and German reprints. This book was mentioned
on this list before. I saw in in shops several times, and I thought it wouldn't
contain any information I didn't know yet.
But there are some tiny details that are new to me:
1. The inside cover of Uncle Scrooge #45 contains an ad for Gold Key comics
"Bargain Offer!". This ad seems to contain a new drawing by Barks (fortunately,
it was printed in Grote's book).
2. About "Oddball Odyssey" (Uncle Scrooge #40), Grote says:
"The first version of the second page of this story (is preserved, but the black areas
weren't drawn) was returned to Barks, because the text balloons were 3 mm too
close to the border. For the rest there are no differences between the two pages."
Has anyone seen this returned page? Was it reprinted anywhere?
3. WDC #405 has a cover based on an idea for a Barks painting. Grote says
that the cover was drawn by Gare Barks ("in order to get it ready in time").
Is this true?
4. The cover of Walt Disney's Showcase #30 shows Scooge in the spell of
Magica de Spell. Grote says "the cover could be from Barks." The art indeed
looks like Barks.
Does anyone have more information?
5. The cover of The CB Library of Gyro Gearloose Comics and Fillers in Color #6
was by William Van Horn, based on a cover sketch by Barks. (Michael Naiman
shows this sketch in one of his magazines.)
Grote says that the cover was published in Germany (Micky Maus 3+4, 1972) and
France (Journal de Mickey 1084, 1973), drawn by an unknown artist.
What is the background of this cover?
(I asked this before, but got no reply.)
--Harry.
(Trying to get his Barks index 100% accurate...)
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #47
Message 14 -
1997-03-02 at 14:10:21
MARCO:
> Yes, it is now and we even don't know when (and if) we shall ever switch to
> Euro. But I guess that anybody (in Europe, at least) knows the rate from HIS
> currency to Euro (=ECU, as of now); while he might not know the rate from
> his currency to Lira. For example, I don't know right now what is the rate
> of the Dracma, or of the Peseta, or....; so if you give prices in Euro
> everything comes out straighter... Don't you agree?
Uh, no. ECU, I understand. Euro, I don't. (At work, where a large part
of our funding comes from EU research projects, we talk about ECUs all
the time. The term "Euro" is never used.) I can only pray that I will
be able to understand the latter in 1999.
Of course, if it is a choice between giving price equivalents in US$
or in European currency (whatever its name), I can only applaud doing
the latter.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"One day I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must
be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs
and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine."
-----
> Yes, it is now and we even don't know when (and if) we shall ever switch to
> Euro. But I guess that anybody (in Europe, at least) knows the rate from HIS
> currency to Euro (=ECU, as of now); while he might not know the rate from
> his currency to Lira. For example, I don't know right now what is the rate
> of the Dracma, or of the Peseta, or....; so if you give prices in Euro
> everything comes out straighter... Don't you agree?
Uh, no. ECU, I understand. Euro, I don't. (At work, where a large part
of our funding comes from EU research projects, we talk about ECUs all
the time. The term "Euro" is never used.) I can only pray that I will
be able to understand the latter in 1999.
Of course, if it is a choice between giving price equivalents in US$
or in European currency (whatever its name), I can only applaud doing
the latter.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"One day I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must
be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs
and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine."
-----
Merlin Haas
Beetle Bailey namesIn the BEETLE BAILEY comic strip of February 27, 1997, Beetle mentions two
Message 15 -
1997-03-02 at 14:14:50
>In the BEETLE BAILEY comic strip of February 27, 1997, Beetle
>mentions two restaurants named *Don's* Diner and Mama *Rosa's*
>Pizzeria! Is this a coincidence or what?
>--Jonathan Markoff
Mama Rosa's Pizzeria is a long standing feature in the strip (It's where
Sarge gets all his pizzas) Don's Diner isn't a standard name in the
comic, but it's likely just a coincidence.
By the way, a recent "Born Loser" daily strip featured a character named
Doctor *Glomgold* (which should ring a bell for anyone on this list.)
best -- Merlin Haas
>mentions two restaurants named *Don's* Diner and Mama *Rosa's*
>Pizzeria! Is this a coincidence or what?
>--Jonathan Markoff
Mama Rosa's Pizzeria is a long standing feature in the strip (It's where
Sarge gets all his pizzas) Don's Diner isn't a standard name in the
comic, but it's likely just a coincidence.
By the way, a recent "Born Loser" daily strip featured a character named
Doctor *Glomgold* (which should ring a bell for anyone on this list.)
best -- Merlin Haas