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Ole:

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Is that the two professors named "Sæhr" and "Kloghsen" in Danish? (Per, this
information is _not_ on the Web site.) Who is who?

Greetings,

Jacob
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STEVE ROWE:

> I've seen an issue of the Calgary EyeOpener before

Is the strange format of the Unexpurgated Barks (somewhere between
comic book and digest size) based on the format of the original Calgary
Eye-Opener? This might make sense. For $9.95 I had expected an album
the size of the Barks Library in Color.

> however Duck fans may be a bit less (shall we
> joke) excited by this.

Well, the friends of featherless female ducks should take a look at
ANIMAL QUACKERS.

CHRISTER HANSSEN wrote:
> The last weeks have issued a Mickey story where some professor has invented
> a dimensiontransporter and they use it to remove the snow from the streets.
> Goofy gets sucked up and transported to a dimension inhabited by fish
> wearing glassbobles filled with water on their head because there is no
> water to swim in. I don't remember the code now, but does anybody know who
> made it?

The code is D96044 and the story is also serialized in MICKY MAUS 11-13/97.
I haven't read the story yet, because I prefer to read the complete
story and am waiting for the third part, but the artwork looks like
Ferioli who draws a very quirky Mickey. His body language is very
expressive. Did you notice that because of his short pants Mickey looks
much younger in recent Ferioli stories. There are even stories where he
seems to be a teenager. In D95119 ("Dichterfreud, Dichterleid", written by
David Gerstein, MICKY MAUS 4/97) he works as a messenger boy for Prof.
Dustibones, whereas usually he acts more like an experienced troubleshooter
for the professor (see, for instance, the "Jurassic" stories, written by
Pat McGreal). The appearance of Mickey's old friend Butch from the early
Gottfredson strips in D95119 furthers the notion that this might be a tale
from Mickey's youth. Was this intended, David G.?
BTW, in my favorite Ferioli-drawn Mickey Mouse story (D93379 "Fantasy
Island", written by Byron Erickson, WALT DISNEY GIANT 5) Mickey and Minnie
are clearly adults.

I'm already receiving suggestions for my www pages. I want to thank
everybody, and let them know that, since I'm now leaving Firenze for four
days, I'll privately answer everybody next Sunday when I'm back.

Marco http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it

JUERGEN:
>Did you notice that because of his short pants Mickey looks much younger in
>recent Ferioli stories.
Yep. Ferioli tends to shorten Mickey's legs when putting him in
shorts, and shorten his arms when showing him without a shirt. So Mickey
does come off looking very young -- generally younger than he does, in
fact, when Gottfredson drew him clothed the same way.

>There are even stories where [Mickey] seems to be a teenager. In D95119
>("Dichterfreud, Dichterleid", written by David Gerstein, MICKY MAUS 4/97) he
>works as a messenger boy for Prof. Dustibones, whereas usually he acts more
>like an experienced troubleshooter for the professor.
In my original version of D95119 ("A Mouse Against the World"), it
was made clear that Mickey had taken the (messenger boy) job just to make
ends meet between more serious stuff. "Maybe it'll slow my urge to go off
adventuring..." he jokes to himself, "...for a week, maybe!" In the German
version of this panel (page 2, second-to-last picture), the text has been
wholly altered; now Mickey is simply imagining how Butch will be surprised
by the scheme that Mickey's planning.

>The appearance of Mickey's old friend Butch from the early Gottfredson strips
>in D95119 furthers the notion that this might be a tale from Mickey's youth.
>Was this intended, David G.?
Well, no... I view Butch as simply having moved back into town, so
this and other new stories in which Butch appears are "new" Mickey stories,
happening in the current Mickey universe, rather than actual tales from
Mickey's youth. I've used Butch twice since D95119, and he'll be back
again.
You're right, though... I *do* interpret Mickey as being generally
younger than you perhaps are used to him. For me, Mickey's perhaps around
twenty years old (and even younger in my first MM stories, although not
anymore). Youth -- a la 1930s Gottfredson -- gives Mickey the exuberance
and enthusiasm that, for me, give the character warmth, life, and
dimension. When it comes to gag stories in particular, I don't think I
could use any other version of Mickey as comfortably.
An interesting afterthought on D95119: the German translator did
an excellent job with the morality rhymes, realizing that they were a
parody of Heinrich Hoffmann's STRUWWELPETER and translating them
appropriately. (On the other hand, the translator seems to have missed
Butch, who has been called Dicker in the past in Germany. Here, he's
Eddi.)

>BTW, in my favorite Ferioli-drawn Mickey Mouse story (D93379 "Fantasy
>Island", written by Byron Erickson, WALT DISNEY GIANT 5) Mickey and Minnie
>are clearly adults.
Certainly older than in my stories, but Mickey has a youthfulness
in the first few pages that makes him seem younger than in a typical Murry
tale. (Uh-oh, now Byron's going to come on here and chew me out... I'm
probably completely wrong... ;-)

David Gerstein
"Well, fer gosh sakes!"

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Hello! I'm new to this list and I'd like to introduce myself. I'm
Fredrik Sandström from Finland; I'm 18 years old and I've been reading
Disney comics since the age of 4. When I was younger I subscribed to
the Swedish "Kalle Anka & Co" (that contains mostly Danish stories)
and also to "Kalle Ankas Pocket" (with mostly Italian stories) until
the Italians started making those awful sci-fi stories. I was very
happy to find this mailing list, and of course I was delighted to
discover that Don Rosa is here. :)

I'm also into Disney cartoons (the short oldies, you know), but since
this is a mailing list about "_Disney_ _comics_ with the emphasis on
both words", I'll just ask one question on this subject: Is there a
mailing list about _Disney_ _cartoons_ with the emphasis on both
words?

I'll end my first post by asking a question. Is there somewhere on
the net a list of the various Disney comics magazines from around the
world, with information about what stories they publish, and so on?
Per Starbäck's pages are very good indeed but they don't seem to have
this kind of information.

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KRITON:

> an animal as big as a "bohimaton".

Mike Barrier wrote in his bibliography:
"When I asked Barks, in the 1978 interview, what a 'bohimaton'
was, he said he had picked the word up from an Englishman
he had known in a logging camp, when he was young.
'That was a word he would use once in a while, to describe
something of huge size.' "

AUGIE:

> What year exactly did Carl Barks retire in and/or stop producing comics monthly
> in?

Barks' last "real" story was "The Cattle King", submitted on May 27, 1966.
After that, he did several covers and story scripts, and he did the art for
a Daisy story for a Digest, because "all regular artists were out".
Barks' last cover (not counting a few covers based on paintings) was from
May 6, 1969.
Barks' last story script was submitted on March 30, 1973.

So you pick a year: 1966, 1969, or 1973... (I think 1966 would be his "real"
retirement year.)

(Note that "The Doom Diamond" was not the last Scrooge story Barks drew.
It must have been meant for U$ 67, since it was submitted between the stories
of U$ 66 and U$ 68. For some reason, the editor put a reprint in U$ 67, and
saved the story for U$ 70.)

--Harry.

Attention all.

My e-mail address has been changed from:

(Email removed)

To:

(Email removed)

The old address will still be in use for the time being, and a large backlog
of mail has accumlated there. I'll answer it in time if I haven't already.

And Per, the question in one of your mails is answered by my presence here.

(BTW, my mom's name is on the header. I have NOT changed my name to Lorraine.)

--Jonathan Markoff

PER/JONATHAN/HARRY:
Good to see an Andold character page... now to see if I can scrape
together some new stuff to contribute to it!
Bo's modern-day equivalent is Donald's postman, Ob, in the first
Andold story. I don't think I've ever seen Ob anywhere else!
The German name you give for Andold is the first one, which is no
longer used. "Sir Donnerbold von Duckenburgh" is also Barks' _Sir Quackly
McDuck_ (ancestor of Scrooge from "The Old Castle's Secret"), and the use
of that name for Andold was a German attempt to tie him into the existing
Barks canon. Later this attempt ceased and so in new German publications,
Andold is called "Donald McDuck" (sounds weird, until you realize that the
McDucks aren't McDucks in Germany).
Should we title this character page "Andold Wild Duck" rather than
"Andold Temerary"? While Temerary is the character's real last name, he's
billed as Andold Wild Duck at the start of each story.
Now for the nitty-gritty...
Regarding Andold's first appearance (marked as unknown on the
character page), that is actually I-A 228, titled in Dutch "Kleine krack"
and running some 45 pages. Other, abler hands than I have suggested this
as Andold's first appearance before... but then *I* confused things by
stating that I'd seen his first appearance, apparently a much shorter
story, in a late-1970s Egmont monthly. Our Rota index didn't list any
Andold stories as having appeared in that comic. Today I thought I'd look
at the index for the comic itself, and saw the following:

AE79-07b I AT 228A 17 @ GCp MRt DD Tilbage til vikingetiden

This is the one. I failed to note down the code upon seeing it in a German
collection, and due to its short length I figured it couldn't have been the
same "first Andold story" that we were talking about. But it is. The
first Andold story remains AT 228 -- the Egmont monthly just published a
fragment of it rather than the whole thing.
The whole muddle also suggests that something's wrong with the
database program. I-A stories and I-AT stories are actually the same, and
the database doesn't recognize that -- because when I look at the
story-page for I-A 228, it doesn't give me any printing information but the
Dutch one! It should automatically inform us of the printing in AE79-07,
too.
And who is GCp? In the ANDERS AND EKSTRA index, the abbreviation
is not explained. Perhaps it was an older abbreviation we used for Carpi?
We have GBC as the abbreviation for him now. If Carpi is indeed the
writer, that would most likely mean that he originated the Andold Wild Duck
characters.

"Up Gaul -- er, Walstaen!"
David Gerstein

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