I wrote:
>> my cultural magazine The Art Bin is out with a new issue about comics.
>> Anders Berglund writes about Tony Strobl, and Germund Silvegren about Paul
>> Murry
Harry Fluks wrote:
>Those are really great articles! Are they only temporarily on your web page?
>(The
>term "magazine" seems to indicate that.) They deserve a *permament* place, for
>instance on the creators pages of our (Per's) Disney-comics website!
>What do you think? (And what do the authors think?)
Thankyou. Yes they are permanent. As permanent as the magazine itself
anyway. All articles that have been published in the Art Bin are still
available. The magazine is its own archive in that sense. An overview of
all issues up till now is available at
<http://www.nisus.se/artbin/art/aanew.html>.
BTW, the name Art Bin was, of course, inspired by Scrooge's money bin.
Unfortunately many people think that bins are just used fo dust and trash.
I am glad you liked those articles ...
Karl-Erik T.
__________________________________________________________________
THE ART BIN MAGAZINE | http://www.nisus.se/artbin
KARL-ERIK TALLMO, editor | (Email removed)
MARCH/APRIL ISSUE: The Other Disney Artists - The Anti-Comics
Crusader Who Turned Advocate - Computer art by Marika af Trolle
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Author
Topic: 199703
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Karl-Erik Tallmo
Strobl & Murry in The Art Bin
Message 151 -
1997-03-27 at 01:13:18
Cristian Lucas
Barks' Birthday
Message 152 -
1997-03-27 at 18:01:35
BARKS: (-:
> Today (March 27) is Barks's birthday again, by the way.
> Congratulations!
Congratulations, Carl, from your Argentina fan. :)
I wish I could let you know, what your work has meant for me, along
my life. ;)
Keep it on!
# Cristian Lucas
# From Buenos Aires, Argentina
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> Today (March 27) is Barks's birthday again, by the way.
> Congratulations!
Congratulations, Carl, from your Argentina fan. :)
I wish I could let you know, what your work has meant for me, along
my life. ;)
Keep it on!
# Cristian Lucas
# From Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Per Starback
To write or not to write?
Message 153 -
1997-03-27 at 18:23:31
Jonathan asked about advice for his urge to write Carl Barks.
I don't know. When I joined Duckdom it was always said that Barks
gets more fan mail than he can handle, and that the best way to show
one's appreciation is to *not* send fan mail. So I refrained.
Now I'm not that sure. If the Carl Barks Studio takes care of fan
mail and Barks isn't personally burdened by the amount of it, maybe
it's no problem? I'd really like to know what Barks himself thinks
about this nowadays. Not because I have an urge myself to send
something, but because I'd like to know how to answer that very
question, for instance on the web pages.
I have no urge, because I have nothing new to say. I've made use of
Gerhard Tank's kind offer one (two?) years ago to collect birthday
greetings and give to him, so I have already had my chance at sending
a personal Thank You, and I have really no questions that haven't been
asked before.
Today (March 27) is Barks's birthday again, by the way. Congratulations!
Speaking of dates, the mailing list server will be down April 1 for OS
upgrade. I don't know how long time that will take, so I can't
guarantee that there'll be time for sending April Fool jokes to the
list.
I don't know. When I joined Duckdom it was always said that Barks
gets more fan mail than he can handle, and that the best way to show
one's appreciation is to *not* send fan mail. So I refrained.
Now I'm not that sure. If the Carl Barks Studio takes care of fan
mail and Barks isn't personally burdened by the amount of it, maybe
it's no problem? I'd really like to know what Barks himself thinks
about this nowadays. Not because I have an urge myself to send
something, but because I'd like to know how to answer that very
question, for instance on the web pages.
I have no urge, because I have nothing new to say. I've made use of
Gerhard Tank's kind offer one (two?) years ago to collect birthday
greetings and give to him, so I have already had my chance at sending
a personal Thank You, and I have really no questions that haven't been
asked before.
Today (March 27) is Barks's birthday again, by the way. Congratulations!
Speaking of dates, the mailing list server will be down April 1 for OS
upgrade. I don't know how long time that will take, so I can't
guarantee that there'll be time for sending April Fool jokes to the
list.
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
Disney cencorship and the "Tightwad"
Message 154 -
1997-03-28 at 11:53:55
GARY LEACH:
You write that "The Tightwad" was replaced by "On a Silver Platter" in WDC&S
#611 literally at the last minute due to Disney's objections about matters
of "personal hygiene" in that story. Does that mean that the "Tightwad" will
start in WDC&S #612, or that maybe it'll be shelved? I see that the story is
still advertised in subsequent issues of WDC&S and also in your Web pages.
Please inform us on the correct publication dates and issues of the
"Tightwad" after the recent developments.
I remember way back when (it was 1993 or so), when the Disney Company (it
was Mr. Seidman, I believe), had announced the upcoming publication of
Rosa's "The War of the Wendigo". Well, we know what happened to that story
in the U.S. I hope "Tightwad's" fortunes will be brighter (albeit cencored).
Archontis
You write that "The Tightwad" was replaced by "On a Silver Platter" in WDC&S
#611 literally at the last minute due to Disney's objections about matters
of "personal hygiene" in that story. Does that mean that the "Tightwad" will
start in WDC&S #612, or that maybe it'll be shelved? I see that the story is
still advertised in subsequent issues of WDC&S and also in your Web pages.
Please inform us on the correct publication dates and issues of the
"Tightwad" after the recent developments.
I remember way back when (it was 1993 or so), when the Disney Company (it
was Mr. Seidman, I believe), had announced the upcoming publication of
Rosa's "The War of the Wendigo". Well, we know what happened to that story
in the U.S. I hope "Tightwad's" fortunes will be brighter (albeit cencored).
Archontis
Per Starback
Phooey-Fooey
Message 155 -
1997-03-28 at 20:03:54
Marco asked:
> Now, what I am wondering is: given that this story has never been published
> but in Italy; given that it is not in "S-coded stories"; how can you tell
> it's <S 78120>?
Because Topolino 1415 *is* indexed, and the title "I Giovani Marmotte
e i microcannotti" seemed to fit.
Harry wrote:
> I saw no reason to include the story in the S-coded file. I think we
> would at least need some more information like page count or credits.
But the information that it was published in Topolino 1415 and the
Italian title is also information! Suppose you were to index a story
with a hard-to-read code which might be S78120 -- then finding this
information on the story might be what you need to get more sure that
you have the code correctly.
Dwight wrote:
> How is Phooey defined? That is, I looked up a couple of
> alleged appearances in Barks's stories, and "Phooey" just
> seemed to be a background character (as in a crowd of
> Junior Woodchucks) who happened to look like a duck.
Yes, I agree that the first two Fooey appearances by Barks
aren't that clear. That could be some random Woodchuck duckling who
happened to be there at the time. But in "Mastering the Matterhorn"
there is no doubt about it. And not in any of the non-Barks stories
that have been mentioned either.
/Per (who got his first nephew today by the way)
> Now, what I am wondering is: given that this story has never been published
> but in Italy; given that it is not in "S-coded stories"; how can you tell
> it's <S 78120>?
Because Topolino 1415 *is* indexed, and the title "I Giovani Marmotte
e i microcannotti" seemed to fit.
Harry wrote:
> I saw no reason to include the story in the S-coded file. I think we
> would at least need some more information like page count or credits.
But the information that it was published in Topolino 1415 and the
Italian title is also information! Suppose you were to index a story
with a hard-to-read code which might be S78120 -- then finding this
information on the story might be what you need to get more sure that
you have the code correctly.
Dwight wrote:
> How is Phooey defined? That is, I looked up a couple of
> alleged appearances in Barks's stories, and "Phooey" just
> seemed to be a background character (as in a crowd of
> Junior Woodchucks) who happened to look like a duck.
Yes, I agree that the first two Fooey appearances by Barks
aren't that clear. That could be some random Woodchuck duckling who
happened to be there at the time. But in "Mastering the Matterhorn"
there is no doubt about it. And not in any of the non-Barks stories
that have been mentioned either.
/Per (who got his first nephew today by the way)
Gerhard Tank, MD
Bark's birthday
Message 156 -
1997-03-28 at 20:27:38
This is just a brief message to tell you all is well with Carl. We had him
out to a nice dinner last night (fresh halibut) with a restaurant providing
him with his piece of birthday cake (mudpie). Carl remains at 96 very sharp
in his mind but now takes his cane with him when he goes out.He has been
able to jury rig his drawing board for steadiness so that he can continue to
draw his and my favorite characters. After desert of marion- and raspberry
pie I wish that you could have all seen the broad grin on his face. If
anyone still wants to send some belated birthday greetings or messages I
will be glad to forward them to him.
I enjoy reading the comments in this digest and pass on to Carl anything
that I think would be of particular interest to him. Incidentally, I think
it is well known that in early April Carl will again be at Disney World,
probably signing some of his works and belatedly celebrating his birthday
with those of his fans who can be there.
Don't know where this came from but
the world's greatest labor saving invention is tomorrow.
out to a nice dinner last night (fresh halibut) with a restaurant providing
him with his piece of birthday cake (mudpie). Carl remains at 96 very sharp
in his mind but now takes his cane with him when he goes out.He has been
able to jury rig his drawing board for steadiness so that he can continue to
draw his and my favorite characters. After desert of marion- and raspberry
pie I wish that you could have all seen the broad grin on his face. If
anyone still wants to send some belated birthday greetings or messages I
will be glad to forward them to him.
I enjoy reading the comments in this digest and pass on to Carl anything
that I think would be of particular interest to him. Incidentally, I think
it is well known that in early April Carl will again be at Disney World,
probably signing some of his works and belatedly celebrating his birthday
with those of his fans who can be there.
Don't know where this came from but
the world's greatest labor saving invention is tomorrow.
Jyrki Vainio
Writing to Barks
Message 157 -
1997-03-29 at 16:07:28
Kathy Morby told me that she's the one who answers the fan mail (but not
pretending to be Barks, I'm sure). The mail keeps pouring in every day, so
instead of spending certain amount of time every day answering them, she
waits that they gather up a larger pile and then "a couple of times a
year" spends whole day doing that. I'm sure that that's easier for Barks
too - probably lots of the letters contain requests for autographs, so
this way he don't have to take time off every day to sign them, but he
can take care of all that at once. And as for questions, I'm sure that
Barks's managers can answer a whole lot of them by themselves.
So if you want to send your personal thanks to the Master, I don't know...
probably all that he gets to know is the volume of the mail he receives.
So, in a way, you can still contribute to this even if the man himself
don't get to read the actual letter. And if you want to get a reply, be
prepared to wait quite a while... (BTW, this isn't the record for me
personally; a reply from Jim Davis - or from someone in his staff in all
probability - took nearly a year!)
--- Jyrki "When did I become a lurker" Vainio ---
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pretending to be Barks, I'm sure). The mail keeps pouring in every day, so
instead of spending certain amount of time every day answering them, she
waits that they gather up a larger pile and then "a couple of times a
year" spends whole day doing that. I'm sure that that's easier for Barks
too - probably lots of the letters contain requests for autographs, so
this way he don't have to take time off every day to sign them, but he
can take care of all that at once. And as for questions, I'm sure that
Barks's managers can answer a whole lot of them by themselves.
So if you want to send your personal thanks to the Master, I don't know...
probably all that he gets to know is the volume of the mail he receives.
So, in a way, you can still contribute to this even if the man himself
don't get to read the actual letter. And if you want to get a reply, be
prepared to wait quite a while... (BTW, this isn't the record for me
personally; a reply from Jim Davis - or from someone in his staff in all
probability - took nearly a year!)
--- Jyrki "When did I become a lurker" Vainio ---
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Didier Ghez
Movie influences of Barks stories
Message 158 -
1997-03-29 at 19:05:06
Hi,
I got recently a message from a person who, commenting Don Rosa's work,
used the following argument:
"Barks struggled all his life to keep Hollywood's influence out of his
work. Don is destroying Barks' universe by the use he is making of
Hollywood influences in duck stories".
Apart from the fact that this argument is blatently absurd, I remember at
least one or two Barks stories (among them Tralala influenced by Capra's
The Lost World) that are very influenced by Hollywood's works.
Can you help me find others ?
Didier
I got recently a message from a person who, commenting Don Rosa's work,
used the following argument:
"Barks struggled all his life to keep Hollywood's influence out of his
work. Don is destroying Barks' universe by the use he is making of
Hollywood influences in duck stories".
Apart from the fact that this argument is blatently absurd, I remember at
least one or two Barks stories (among them Tralala influenced by Capra's
The Lost World) that are very influenced by Hollywood's works.
Can you help me find others ?
Didier
Mn
Woodchucks
Message 159 -
1997-03-29 at 19:20:46
A little item from our local paper:
"Finally the Missouri state legislature has decided not to make the
woodchuck the official state rodent.
"If there's ever a rodent to be proud of, that's a woodchuck" said
Democratic Representative Chuck (note the name)) Graham, who led the effort
to attach the "state rodent" designation to legislation making the
paddlefish the official state aquatic animal and the catfish the official
state fish. The house was not impressed and declined to name a state
rodent"
End of article
It appears as if these state elected officials have a bit too much time on
their hands!?!
ANOTHER NOTE:
Do any of the Digest participants from Germany have any information about
the Rosa hardcover book? How much? What stories, etc.????
"Finally the Missouri state legislature has decided not to make the
woodchuck the official state rodent.
"If there's ever a rodent to be proud of, that's a woodchuck" said
Democratic Representative Chuck (note the name)) Graham, who led the effort
to attach the "state rodent" designation to legislation making the
paddlefish the official state aquatic animal and the catfish the official
state fish. The house was not impressed and declined to name a state
rodent"
End of article
It appears as if these state elected officials have a bit too much time on
their hands!?!
ANOTHER NOTE:
Do any of the Digest participants from Germany have any information about
the Rosa hardcover book? How much? What stories, etc.????
Deckerd
Movie influences of Barks stories
Message 160 -
1997-03-29 at 21:53:15
On Mar 29, 12:05pm, Didier Ghez wrote:
> Apart from the fact that this argument is blatently
> absurd, I remember at least one or two Barks stories
> (among them Tralala influenced by Capra's
> The Lost World) that are very influenced by Hollywood's works.
Uhm...just a slight point of correction, if I may. The
American title of the movie that influenced Trala La
was "Lost Horizon." "The Lost World" was (most famously --
there may have been other movies by that title)
a silent movie based on the A. Conan Doyle story about
a plateau in South America where dinosaurs still live.
The French titles for those movies may have been different,
of course. Sorry to be so nitpicky...
I seem to recall Barks having no compunction about satirizing
Westerns. "Sheriff of Bullet Valley," to name an obvious
example. Though he was aiming less at a specific movie and
more at the genre as a whole.
--Dwight Decker
> Apart from the fact that this argument is blatently
> absurd, I remember at least one or two Barks stories
> (among them Tralala influenced by Capra's
> The Lost World) that are very influenced by Hollywood's works.
Uhm...just a slight point of correction, if I may. The
American title of the movie that influenced Trala La
was "Lost Horizon." "The Lost World" was (most famously --
there may have been other movies by that title)
a silent movie based on the A. Conan Doyle story about
a plateau in South America where dinosaurs still live.
The French titles for those movies may have been different,
of course. Sorry to be so nitpicky...
I seem to recall Barks having no compunction about satirizing
Westerns. "Sheriff of Bullet Valley," to name an obvious
example. Though he was aiming less at a specific movie and
more at the genre as a whole.
--Dwight Decker
David Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V97 #64
Message 161 -
1997-03-31 at 01:10:55
J?RGEN:
>It's not unusual in German translations that the supporting characters'
>names are changed in successive stories. Even Erika Fuchs wasn't consistent
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>It's not unusual in German translations that the supporting characters'
>names are changed in successive stories. Even Erika Fuchs wasn't consistent
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David Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V97 #67
Message 162 -
1997-03-31 at 01:31:03
PER:
In Digest #67, the last ten lines of my letter were deleted!
Perhaps you know what's going on!
Now I'll print that part of the letter again. Hopefully it will be
complete in the Digest this time around.
J?RGEN:
>It's not unusual in German translations that the supporting characters'
>names are changed in successive stories. Even Erika Fuchs wasn't consistent
In Digest #67, the last ten lines of my letter were deleted!
Perhaps you know what's going on!
Now I'll print that part of the letter again. Hopefully it will be
complete in the Digest this time around.
J?RGEN:
>It's not unusual in German translations that the supporting characters'
>names are changed in successive stories. Even Erika Fuchs wasn't consistent
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #67
Message 163 -
1997-03-31 at 08:06:49
DIDIER:
Your friend can say all he wants about my stories sucking hockey pucks or
whatever, and I'll never say he's the slightest bit wrong. But I do find it,
as you say, blatantly absurd that ANYTHING I do "destroys Barks' universe"
or effects Barks' work in any way whatsoever. Whenever your friend or anyone
else reads one of my stories that turns his stomach, if he'll bother to get
out his old funnybook collection, he'll notice that Barks' stories are all
still right there where they were before. They haven't been touched in the
slightest way. They have not been altered or erased.
It also puzzles me that no matter how awful some other Duck stories have
been for the last half-century, being churned out by publishers the world
over, why a few single mine out as the only stories that "harm" Barks.
Regardless of how little respect I might show for my own work, I do think I
put more effort into my stuff than quite a bit of other Duckwork that has
seen print in this world in the last 5 decades. But that is something I
guess I should take as a compliment -- my stories are the only other stories
your friend seems to notice exist. This is also the same perplexity and
vaguely implied compliment I've gotten from them that have tried feebly to
make me lose my job in recent years. Yeah, it's absurd, but it's human
nature. My advice to your friend is as I give to others... if I make them
unhappy or feel somehow hurt, just don't read my stories. No matter how
badly I screw up, I'll never inflict an iota of damage on their old
favorites, and I wonder how or why they think I ever could.
Having said that... I'll go on to say that, yeah, I've always seen puh-lenty
of movie influences in Barks' stories... certainly not the same sort that
are in my stories, but I'm not Barks. I also see lots of influences of pulp
magazine stories and every other form of "pop culture" of the day. Why not?
Any Barks story you might pick you could trace back to influence of the days
when he was working... some old movie or TV show or classic adventure story
or news item or NatGeo article or anything else that Barks was exposed to at
the time. That's quite normal, as with any writer. That's as it should be.
And having said THAT in turn... I'll say that I'm working on this Eldorado
story right now that had a sequence of the Ducks driving a heavy transport
truck through South American mountains... so I spent a load of extra time
watching and rewatching one of my laser discs to draw the truck from a
certain old movie as the Ducks' truck. I make a point of mentioning this to
you because it was a very famous FRENCH movie. And it gave me a line of
dialogue for Donald to utter when $crooge mentions that he's paying him 30
cents per hour to drive the truck. But this sort of movie reference is so
obscure that it's meant almost entirely as a private joke to myself. I mean,
do even you, as a French-guy, know what movie I'm "destroying Barks'
universe" with in this instance? Or what Donald says back to $crooge? How
many readers would even know it was a movie reference? About 3?
MICHAEL NAIMAN:
re: the German "Lo$" hardback -- As I "warned" the Digest audience of a few
weeks back, there will be no German hardcover edition of the "Lo$". Instead,
they opted for repackaging issues #1-6 of their "Don Rosa library" album
series (with the "Lo$") into a boxed set with a new #0 (with episodes 0 &
8b, if you know the ones I mean). So this will not be quite as nice as the
hardcover as will appear in other countries, but will contain about 40-45
more pages of story and text-commentary that the hardcovers won't. I'll also
probably do a special illustration for the box which may or may not be the
same as the new cover I'll do for the hardback.
Your friend can say all he wants about my stories sucking hockey pucks or
whatever, and I'll never say he's the slightest bit wrong. But I do find it,
as you say, blatantly absurd that ANYTHING I do "destroys Barks' universe"
or effects Barks' work in any way whatsoever. Whenever your friend or anyone
else reads one of my stories that turns his stomach, if he'll bother to get
out his old funnybook collection, he'll notice that Barks' stories are all
still right there where they were before. They haven't been touched in the
slightest way. They have not been altered or erased.
It also puzzles me that no matter how awful some other Duck stories have
been for the last half-century, being churned out by publishers the world
over, why a few single mine out as the only stories that "harm" Barks.
Regardless of how little respect I might show for my own work, I do think I
put more effort into my stuff than quite a bit of other Duckwork that has
seen print in this world in the last 5 decades. But that is something I
guess I should take as a compliment -- my stories are the only other stories
your friend seems to notice exist. This is also the same perplexity and
vaguely implied compliment I've gotten from them that have tried feebly to
make me lose my job in recent years. Yeah, it's absurd, but it's human
nature. My advice to your friend is as I give to others... if I make them
unhappy or feel somehow hurt, just don't read my stories. No matter how
badly I screw up, I'll never inflict an iota of damage on their old
favorites, and I wonder how or why they think I ever could.
Having said that... I'll go on to say that, yeah, I've always seen puh-lenty
of movie influences in Barks' stories... certainly not the same sort that
are in my stories, but I'm not Barks. I also see lots of influences of pulp
magazine stories and every other form of "pop culture" of the day. Why not?
Any Barks story you might pick you could trace back to influence of the days
when he was working... some old movie or TV show or classic adventure story
or news item or NatGeo article or anything else that Barks was exposed to at
the time. That's quite normal, as with any writer. That's as it should be.
And having said THAT in turn... I'll say that I'm working on this Eldorado
story right now that had a sequence of the Ducks driving a heavy transport
truck through South American mountains... so I spent a load of extra time
watching and rewatching one of my laser discs to draw the truck from a
certain old movie as the Ducks' truck. I make a point of mentioning this to
you because it was a very famous FRENCH movie. And it gave me a line of
dialogue for Donald to utter when $crooge mentions that he's paying him 30
cents per hour to drive the truck. But this sort of movie reference is so
obscure that it's meant almost entirely as a private joke to myself. I mean,
do even you, as a French-guy, know what movie I'm "destroying Barks'
universe" with in this instance? Or what Donald says back to $crooge? How
many readers would even know it was a movie reference? About 3?
MICHAEL NAIMAN:
re: the German "Lo$" hardback -- As I "warned" the Digest audience of a few
weeks back, there will be no German hardcover edition of the "Lo$". Instead,
they opted for repackaging issues #1-6 of their "Don Rosa library" album
series (with the "Lo$") into a boxed set with a new #0 (with episodes 0 &
8b, if you know the ones I mean). So this will not be quite as nice as the
hardcover as will appear in other countries, but will contain about 40-45
more pages of story and text-commentary that the hardcovers won't. I'll also
probably do a special illustration for the box which may or may not be the
same as the new cover I'll do for the hardback.
Ivan Pedersen
Don Rosa in Norway
Message 164 -
1997-03-31 at 10:38:54
Hi
Does some of you from Norway, or any other part of the world now if there
is any plans for any special printing of Lo$. I also like to know the
Donald Duck & Co issues that had the first printing of this serie.
Thanks
Ivan
Does some of you from Norway, or any other part of the world now if there
is any plans for any special printing of Lo$. I also like to know the
Donald Duck & Co issues that had the first printing of this serie.
Thanks
Ivan
Didier Ghez
Disney comics Digest V97 #67
Message 165 -
1997-03-31 at 15:12:12
Dwight,
Of course you are right about Lost Horizon. It looks as if my lapsus came
from the hype surrounding the upcoming Jurassic Park sequel. Even while
living in France I can't avoid this kind of brainwashing.
Didier
Of course you are right about Lost Horizon. It looks as if my lapsus came
from the hype surrounding the upcoming Jurassic Park sequel. Even while
living in France I can't avoid this kind of brainwashing.
Didier