JONATHAN:
>In the BEETLE BAILEY comic strip of February 27, 1997, Beetle mentions two
>restaurants named *Don's* Diner and Mama *Rosa's* Pizzeria! Is this a
>coincidence or what?
Not a "what". Only a coincidence.
DALE:
>Hi. I know Gladstone has released four albums called "The Life and Times of
>Scrooge McDuck". Do these albums collect all the stories in this series Rosa
>ever did, or will he/has he done more later ?
Those 4 albums reprint all 12 of the stories in the original series.
However, there were two chapters that appeared later, one in 1995 ("Hearts
of the Yukon") and one in late 96 ("The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff"), and
there was that story that we like to call "chapter 0" ("Of Ducks and Dimes
and Destinies") which I did in 1991 but wasn't printed until 1996. And I'll
be doing another chapter sometime this year.
>If hes has, will they be
>released as album five etc. in the same series ?
Maybe, but not any time soon. (But I don't really know Gladstone's plans.)
>Also, a friend told me Gladstone would release more Rosa-albums this spring,
>which would collect all stories Rosa has done so far in chronological order.
>Is that correct ?
The 4 new albums will collect all?/most? of my 1980s Gladstone stories, but
NOT in chronological order. And not the "Life of $crooge" stuff again so
soon! But again, Gladstone knows the details.
Author
Topic: 199703
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Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #47
Message 16 -
1997-03-02 at 16:58:27
Vidar Svendsen
Barks on Barks ?
Message 17 -
1997-03-02 at 21:56:37
At 10:07 02.03.97, you wrote:
> During one of the mainy times I was going through Italy, I bought
>an issue of Topolino which happened to feature a story on Barks. The
Ah... that story has been printed in Norway too, in pocketbok # 154. It's
code is I1919
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Vidar Svendsen
Touch one hair of that turkey's head! Just DARE touch it!
> During one of the mainy times I was going through Italy, I bought
>an issue of Topolino which happened to feature a story on Barks. The
Ah... that story has been printed in Norway too, in pocketbok # 154. It's
code is I1919
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Vidar Svendsen
Touch one hair of that turkey's head! Just DARE touch it!
Marco Barlotti
Beetle Bailey
Message 18 -
1997-03-03 at 01:39:33
Jonathan:
as far as I know, it is almost thirty years that soldier Beetle Bailey (or,
rather, his sarge) goes regularly to Mama Rosa's (and usually the sarge has
nightmares afterwards). I must however admit that Don's Diner *is* new to
me. So maybe the author (which I guess isn't Mort Walker anymore... am I
right?) MIGHT have played a joke somewhere there.
Kryton:
> A few months ago I found "Pirate Gold,"
>e.g., for about 1200-1500 drachmas.
How much is that in Euro? ;-)
Marco
<Think before you think!> Stanislaw Lec
as far as I know, it is almost thirty years that soldier Beetle Bailey (or,
rather, his sarge) goes regularly to Mama Rosa's (and usually the sarge has
nightmares afterwards). I must however admit that Don's Diner *is* new to
me. So maybe the author (which I guess isn't Mort Walker anymore... am I
right?) MIGHT have played a joke somewhere there.
Kryton:
> A few months ago I found "Pirate Gold,"
>e.g., for about 1200-1500 drachmas.
How much is that in Euro? ;-)
Marco
<Think before you think!> Stanislaw Lec
BBranvold
Disney comics Digest V97 #47
Message 19 -
1997-03-03 at 02:32:24
Kriton gave a very nice response to the fellow wondering about "Pirate Gold"
story
from Donald Duck 4-Color #9. He stated this was Barks' first comic book
work.
It is the first Art for Carl, but....Barks did do a comic prior to that book
when he did writing for a Large Feature Book #7 "Pluto Saves The Ship"
earlier in 1942.
It is an Over-size book you can look for in Children sections of used book
stores.
At $100-$1000 in the guide, it is worth searching for! ---Barry---
story
from Donald Duck 4-Color #9. He stated this was Barks' first comic book
work.
It is the first Art for Carl, but....Barks did do a comic prior to that book
when he did writing for a Large Feature Book #7 "Pluto Saves The Ship"
earlier in 1942.
It is an Over-size book you can look for in Children sections of used book
stores.
At $100-$1000 in the guide, it is worth searching for! ---Barry---
Wilmer Rivers
Beetle Bailey, Big Nate
Message 20 -
1997-03-03 at 04:11:14
Marco writes of "Beetle Bailey":
> So maybe the author (which I guess isn't Mort Walker anymore... am I
> right?) MIGHT have played a joke somewhere there.
I'm pretty sure that Mort Walker is still writing Beetle Bailey.
He's quite active in comics still; in fact, he was the Master of
Ceremonies at Carl Barks' 95th birthday dinner, given last year at
Steve Geppi's Diamond Comics gallery.
I think I've mentioned here before that I wonder whether Don Rosa is
the inspiration for a character in the "Big Nate" comic strip. The
cartoonist of that strip is apparently a Duck fan, since he referred
to a group of kids as "Junior Woodchucks" once. The strip is about
a junior-high kid who wants to become a cartoonist, and his art
teacher at school is named "Mr. Rosa". Coincidence? Maybe, or maybe
not. Does anyone here know for sure?
Wilmer Rivers
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> So maybe the author (which I guess isn't Mort Walker anymore... am I
> right?) MIGHT have played a joke somewhere there.
I'm pretty sure that Mort Walker is still writing Beetle Bailey.
He's quite active in comics still; in fact, he was the Master of
Ceremonies at Carl Barks' 95th birthday dinner, given last year at
Steve Geppi's Diamond Comics gallery.
I think I've mentioned here before that I wonder whether Don Rosa is
the inspiration for a character in the "Big Nate" comic strip. The
cartoonist of that strip is apparently a Duck fan, since he referred
to a group of kids as "Junior Woodchucks" once. The strip is about
a junior-high kid who wants to become a cartoonist, and his art
teacher at school is named "Mr. Rosa". Coincidence? Maybe, or maybe
not. Does anyone here know for sure?
Wilmer Rivers
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BL9C6DMA
Aussie publications...
Message 21 -
1997-03-03 at 13:15:31
Thanks, Vidar.
More questions...While on a short stay in Australia in 1991, I had
the arduous task of choosing which of the six different monthly
issues of Disney strips ( Roger Rabbit, Duck adventures, chip'n'dale,
and the other three were Ducktales, Mickey Mouse and Scrooge) to buy.
Eventually, I got the R. Rabbit and Scrooge ( a f-a-n-t-a-s-t-i-c Don
Rosa, " the Money Pit").
Are these 6 issues still coming out ? are they only issued in
Australia or in U.S too ? I vaguely remember an article inside the
Scrooge mag saying this was the first Disney publication ( as opposed
to being one from Gladstone)...
Marc-Antoine
More questions...While on a short stay in Australia in 1991, I had
the arduous task of choosing which of the six different monthly
issues of Disney strips ( Roger Rabbit, Duck adventures, chip'n'dale,
and the other three were Ducktales, Mickey Mouse and Scrooge) to buy.
Eventually, I got the R. Rabbit and Scrooge ( a f-a-n-t-a-s-t-i-c Don
Rosa, " the Money Pit").
Are these 6 issues still coming out ? are they only issued in
Australia or in U.S too ? I vaguely remember an article inside the
Scrooge mag saying this was the first Disney publication ( as opposed
to being one from Gladstone)...
Marc-Antoine
David Pecora
Disney comics Digest V97 #47
Message 22 -
1997-03-03 at 14:46:10
please unsubscribe me from your list. thank you.
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #48
Message 23 -
1997-03-03 at 15:15:08
ARES PHLYX (!!!)
> Still, I think one should transcribe the name as Komix, not Comics. First of all,
> the name Comics is confusing in an English article (in your message, I didn't
> get what you meant the first time I read the line "..was reprinted in Comics #25),
> while Komix is clear at once.
Probably not more confusing than "Disney comics" vs. "Disney Comics".
Besides, if I am to translate the comic book's title,
kappa-omicron-mu-iota-xi, as "Komix", how should I translate an article from
the same comic book, referring to comics (the term) using the same spelling?
(One of the reasons I'm not so keen on the "komix" spelling, especially the
Greek version, is that it obscures the fact that the word is of Greek origin.
It is similar to modern Greeks' talking about "cinema" and "cinephiles", as if
the words were French.)
If you haven't guessed yet, this is a pet peeve of mine. I am one of those
few Greeks who are aware of their poor grasp of their native language,
and are upset to discover that most people are even more illiterate than
they.
> But I also think the principle of "correctin"" the "simplified" spelling is wrong.
> You could also say that the Germans misspelled Mickey's name (Micky Maus),
> so we should call the German weekly "Mickey Maus" from now on. Same reasoning.
If you do call the German weekly "Mickey Mouse" (English name), as the above
seems to suggest, then you come to my words. Even if you call it "Micky Maus"
(German name), which is probably what you wanted to say, it is not quite the
same. The equivalent would be to call the Greek comic book "ÊÏÌÉÎ", which is
what its name actually is. (It's not *my* fault that your mail reader is not
configured to read the ISO 8859-7 character set! :-)
I guess this is a "religious" subject with me, and you'll have to bear with my
using the name "Comics" whenever I happen to refer to the Greek comic book.
As a side note, back in the sixties, there was a series of science fiction
comic books published in Greece under the umbrella title "Ta kalytera komiks"
(the best comics--no x in the ending), and individual titles that would
translate as "interplanetary", "strange", "dynamic", (all words were plural)
etc. If you went to a kiosk and asked for a "komiks", you'd get the current
issue in the series. Any idea what these comics might have been? They were
definitely of American origin (there was a--translated into Greek--comic code
authority approval on the cover), but they were not ECs.
> --`Arri Phlyx.
^
|___ I love this attempt at an aspiration mark (one of the things that
are gone (perhaps justifiably) with the simplification of the
modern Greek language).
As you can see from my slightly modified version of this Hellenized version of
your name (a common practice in the 19th century, BTW) at the top of this
message, your name can be turned into something that sounds quite Greek.
"Phlyx" (with a ksi!) is probably a Greek word. I've only seen it in the
compound word "oinophlyx", which means drunkard. I suspect that in this
context, "phlyx" describes someone who has abused or is full of something.
Thus, I would not recommend using this version of your name!!! (Insert lots
of exclamation marks and smileys here. I am *not* being abusive!)
MARCO:
> > A few months ago I found "Pirate Gold,"
> >e.g., for about 1200-1500 drachmas.
>
> How much is that in Euro? ;-)
No idea. It's about 4-5 ECUs, if it helps. ;-)
BARRY:
> Kriton gave a very nice response to the fellow wondering about "Pirate Gold"
> story
Just for the record, I iterate that I was quoting from an article by Geoffrey
Blum.
> At $100-$1000 in the guide, it is worth searching for! ---Barry---
"Pluto Saves the Ship" is also in the B&W Carl Barks Library. For anyone
willing to spend that kind of money to read this particular story, it might be
worth tracking that down, instead, and get to read a lot more of Barks'
stories in the bargain.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Just *think* line a physicist!"
-----
> Still, I think one should transcribe the name as Komix, not Comics. First of all,
> the name Comics is confusing in an English article (in your message, I didn't
> get what you meant the first time I read the line "..was reprinted in Comics #25),
> while Komix is clear at once.
Probably not more confusing than "Disney comics" vs. "Disney Comics".
Besides, if I am to translate the comic book's title,
kappa-omicron-mu-iota-xi, as "Komix", how should I translate an article from
the same comic book, referring to comics (the term) using the same spelling?
(One of the reasons I'm not so keen on the "komix" spelling, especially the
Greek version, is that it obscures the fact that the word is of Greek origin.
It is similar to modern Greeks' talking about "cinema" and "cinephiles", as if
the words were French.)
If you haven't guessed yet, this is a pet peeve of mine. I am one of those
few Greeks who are aware of their poor grasp of their native language,
and are upset to discover that most people are even more illiterate than
they.
> But I also think the principle of "correctin"" the "simplified" spelling is wrong.
> You could also say that the Germans misspelled Mickey's name (Micky Maus),
> so we should call the German weekly "Mickey Maus" from now on. Same reasoning.
If you do call the German weekly "Mickey Mouse" (English name), as the above
seems to suggest, then you come to my words. Even if you call it "Micky Maus"
(German name), which is probably what you wanted to say, it is not quite the
same. The equivalent would be to call the Greek comic book "ÊÏÌÉÎ", which is
what its name actually is. (It's not *my* fault that your mail reader is not
configured to read the ISO 8859-7 character set! :-)
I guess this is a "religious" subject with me, and you'll have to bear with my
using the name "Comics" whenever I happen to refer to the Greek comic book.
As a side note, back in the sixties, there was a series of science fiction
comic books published in Greece under the umbrella title "Ta kalytera komiks"
(the best comics--no x in the ending), and individual titles that would
translate as "interplanetary", "strange", "dynamic", (all words were plural)
etc. If you went to a kiosk and asked for a "komiks", you'd get the current
issue in the series. Any idea what these comics might have been? They were
definitely of American origin (there was a--translated into Greek--comic code
authority approval on the cover), but they were not ECs.
> --`Arri Phlyx.
^
|___ I love this attempt at an aspiration mark (one of the things that
are gone (perhaps justifiably) with the simplification of the
modern Greek language).
As you can see from my slightly modified version of this Hellenized version of
your name (a common practice in the 19th century, BTW) at the top of this
message, your name can be turned into something that sounds quite Greek.
"Phlyx" (with a ksi!) is probably a Greek word. I've only seen it in the
compound word "oinophlyx", which means drunkard. I suspect that in this
context, "phlyx" describes someone who has abused or is full of something.
Thus, I would not recommend using this version of your name!!! (Insert lots
of exclamation marks and smileys here. I am *not* being abusive!)
MARCO:
> > A few months ago I found "Pirate Gold,"
> >e.g., for about 1200-1500 drachmas.
>
> How much is that in Euro? ;-)
No idea. It's about 4-5 ECUs, if it helps. ;-)
BARRY:
> Kriton gave a very nice response to the fellow wondering about "Pirate Gold"
> story
Just for the record, I iterate that I was quoting from an article by Geoffrey
Blum.
> At $100-$1000 in the guide, it is worth searching for! ---Barry---
"Pluto Saves the Ship" is also in the B&W Carl Barks Library. For anyone
willing to spend that kind of money to read this particular story, it might be
worth tracking that down, instead, and get to read a lot more of Barks'
stories in the bargain.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Just *think* line a physicist!"
-----
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #48
Message 24 -
1997-03-03 at 19:06:15
WILMER:
While I'm sure that "Don's Diner" and Mama Rosa" in "BEETLE BAILEY" is just
a coincidence, that stuff in "BIG NATE" seems to truly be the work of a
Duckfan. There's no other Junior Woodchucks than the real thing, and "Rosa"
is not a common last name. Well, not in Italy -- maybe it is in Puerto Rico
or somewhere.
While I'm sure that "Don's Diner" and Mama Rosa" in "BEETLE BAILEY" is just
a coincidence, that stuff in "BIG NATE" seems to truly be the work of a
Duckfan. There's no other Junior Woodchucks than the real thing, and "Rosa"
is not a common last name. Well, not in Italy -- maybe it is in Puerto Rico
or somewhere.
Markoff
Famous Duckfans galore
Message 25 -
1997-03-03 at 22:08:22
WILMER:
>I think I've mentioned here before that I wonder whether Don Rosa is
>the inspiration for a character in the "Big Nate" comic strip. The
>cartoonist of that strip is apparently a Duck fan, since he referred
>to a group of kids as "Junior Woodchucks" once. The strip is about
>a junior-high kid who wants to become a cartoonist, and his art
>teacher at school is named "Mr. Rosa". Coincidence? Maybe, or maybe
>not. Does anyone here know for sure?
Yes, since then I've found the cartoonist's e-mail address in the strip, and
he sent me the folowing e-mail in December:
>From: (Email removed)
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:26:50 -0500
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Ducks
>
>Hi, Duck Fan,
>
>In answer to the question about whether Big Nate's inclusion in the Junior
>Woodchucks was inspired by Donald's nephews, I can only say "I'm not sure."
> When I first wrote a series of jokes involving Nate and a group of scouts he
>was trying to join, I named them the "Junior Woodchucks" without considering
>that the name might have already been used. It was only months later that an
>eighth-grade neighbor of mine pointed out that Huey, Dewey, and Louie were
>ALSO Junior Woodchucks. I know that many, many years ago, I probably read
>some comics in which the three of them were wearing those "Davey Crockett"
>style caps, but I had long since forgotten the details. I can't claim to be
>a huge Disney fan, although I'm certainly a big admirer of the Carl Barks
>stories, especially the ones involving Scrooge McDuck. Anyway, assuming I
>don't get sued by Disney, I'll still make occasional references in "Big Nate"
>to the Junior Woodchucks.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Lincoln Peirce
>
Another Duckfan newspaper cartoonist is Bud Grace, author of "Ernie." Read
on down:
>From: (Email removed)
>Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 12:54:14 -0500
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Militia building
>
>I loved Scrooge. While the bunker wasn't intentionally designed after the
>money bin, perhaps there was something subliminal going on. Whenever the
>Wurlitzer Brothers are in prison garb their numbers are 167 etc.
>
>Bud Grace
>
Now back to our regularly scheduled mailing list.
--Jonathan Markoff
>I think I've mentioned here before that I wonder whether Don Rosa is
>the inspiration for a character in the "Big Nate" comic strip. The
>cartoonist of that strip is apparently a Duck fan, since he referred
>to a group of kids as "Junior Woodchucks" once. The strip is about
>a junior-high kid who wants to become a cartoonist, and his art
>teacher at school is named "Mr. Rosa". Coincidence? Maybe, or maybe
>not. Does anyone here know for sure?
Yes, since then I've found the cartoonist's e-mail address in the strip, and
he sent me the folowing e-mail in December:
>From: (Email removed)
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:26:50 -0500
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Ducks
>
>Hi, Duck Fan,
>
>In answer to the question about whether Big Nate's inclusion in the Junior
>Woodchucks was inspired by Donald's nephews, I can only say "I'm not sure."
> When I first wrote a series of jokes involving Nate and a group of scouts he
>was trying to join, I named them the "Junior Woodchucks" without considering
>that the name might have already been used. It was only months later that an
>eighth-grade neighbor of mine pointed out that Huey, Dewey, and Louie were
>ALSO Junior Woodchucks. I know that many, many years ago, I probably read
>some comics in which the three of them were wearing those "Davey Crockett"
>style caps, but I had long since forgotten the details. I can't claim to be
>a huge Disney fan, although I'm certainly a big admirer of the Carl Barks
>stories, especially the ones involving Scrooge McDuck. Anyway, assuming I
>don't get sued by Disney, I'll still make occasional references in "Big Nate"
>to the Junior Woodchucks.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Lincoln Peirce
>
Another Duckfan newspaper cartoonist is Bud Grace, author of "Ernie." Read
on down:
>From: (Email removed)
>Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 12:54:14 -0500
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Militia building
>
>I loved Scrooge. While the bunker wasn't intentionally designed after the
>money bin, perhaps there was something subliminal going on. Whenever the
>Wurlitzer Brothers are in prison garb their numbers are 167 etc.
>
>Bud Grace
>
Now back to our regularly scheduled mailing list.
--Jonathan Markoff
Harry Fluks
Phlyx
Message 26 -
1997-03-03 at 23:48:12
KRITON (about Komix/Comics):
> If you haven't guessed yet, this is a pet peeve of mine.
Let's discuss this further in private mail, because I have some remarks and
questions that have nothing to do with Disney comics.
> "phlyx" describes someone who has abused or is full of something.
In that case, to remain in style, you could call me a Komikophlyx.
--Harry.
> If you haven't guessed yet, this is a pet peeve of mine.
Let's discuss this further in private mail, because I have some remarks and
questions that have nothing to do with Disney comics.
> "phlyx" describes someone who has abused or is full of something.
In that case, to remain in style, you could call me a Komikophlyx.
--Harry.
Eric Chun
(No subject)
Message 27 -
1997-03-04 at 00:08:46
On Saturday, I heard that Don will be coming to the Wondercon comic
book convention in Oakland (on April 25-27). If Don confirms that,
y'all might want to purchase your tickets!
C'ya l8r.
Eric
book convention in Oakland (on April 25-27). If Don confirms that,
y'all might want to purchase your tickets!
C'ya l8r.
Eric
Marco Barlotti
Salvagnini & Cavazzano on Barks
Message 28 -
1997-03-04 at 01:07:42
As Vidar has already pointed out, the story mentioned by BL9C6DMA (nice
names we're having on this list, don't you think?) is
"Zio Paperone e l'uomo dei paperi", script by Rodolfo Salvagnini, art by
Giorgio Cavazzano, 21 pages, a nice story (but nothing very special)
appeared on issue #1919 of "Topolino". BL9 (may I call you just so?) asks
two questions. One is easy to answer:
> Was that story
>an event, or simply just another weekly story lika any other ?
No, it was not a special event. It was different from the usual stories, but
not a motivated celebration...
> What
>explains the success of Disney publications in Italy?
Aha, the answer to this question I'll leave to the **real** experts...
M12C0B1R
<The moment of recognizing your own lack of talent is a flash of genius>
Stanislaw Lec
names we're having on this list, don't you think?) is
"Zio Paperone e l'uomo dei paperi", script by Rodolfo Salvagnini, art by
Giorgio Cavazzano, 21 pages, a nice story (but nothing very special)
appeared on issue #1919 of "Topolino". BL9 (may I call you just so?) asks
two questions. One is easy to answer:
> Was that story
>an event, or simply just another weekly story lika any other ?
No, it was not a special event. It was different from the usual stories, but
not a motivated celebration...
> What
>explains the success of Disney publications in Italy?
Aha, the answer to this question I'll leave to the **real** experts...
M12C0B1R
<The moment of recognizing your own lack of talent is a flash of genius>
Stanislaw Lec
Crowt
Tibby's Bowl Entertainment Magazine
Message 29 -
1997-03-04 at 02:19:46
I just wanted to inform the list of the interview with Don Rosa in this
month's issue of "Tibby's Bowl Entertainment Magazine." If you decide to
stop on by, be sure to leave any comments, critiques, etc., behind.
-Ken
http://www.nternet.net/~crowt/TBindex.html
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month's issue of "Tibby's Bowl Entertainment Magazine." If you decide to
stop on by, be sure to leave any comments, critiques, etc., behind.
-Ken
http://www.nternet.net/~crowt/TBindex.html
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Kriton Kyrimis
Phlyx
Message 30 -
1997-03-05 at 10:30:09
HARRY:
> > "phlyx" describes someone who has abused or is full of something.
>
> In that case, to remain in style, you could call me a Komikophlyx.
I looked up the word "oinophlyx", and it literally means "overflowing with
wine". Thus, I suspect that "Komikophlyx" is an accurate description of many
of us. (Although I was only joking the other day when I talked about diving in
my comics like a purpoise, burrowing in them like a gopher, and throwing them
up in the air and letting them hit me on the head, having the comics fall off
a shelf and hit me on the head is a danger that I have learnt to live with!)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Everybody keep calm. It's all under control, there's nothing to see. It is
merely a major scientific breakthrough."
-----
> > "phlyx" describes someone who has abused or is full of something.
>
> In that case, to remain in style, you could call me a Komikophlyx.
I looked up the word "oinophlyx", and it literally means "overflowing with
wine". Thus, I suspect that "Komikophlyx" is an accurate description of many
of us. (Although I was only joking the other day when I talked about diving in
my comics like a purpoise, burrowing in them like a gopher, and throwing them
up in the air and letting them hit me on the head, having the comics fall off
a shelf and hit me on the head is a danger that I have learnt to live with!)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Everybody keep calm. It's all under control, there's nothing to see. It is
merely a major scientific breakthrough."
-----