Mattias writes of Barks' use of the song "Carry Me Back to Old
Virginny" in "Lost in the Andes":
> "Virginny", however, was not published until 1878 so there really is
> no way Prof. Betlah could have thaught that'n to the Square people!
>
Quite right. Even if you didn't look up the publication date, it is
clear from the lyrics that the song was written sometime after the
end of the US Civil War (i.e., 1865). The song is narrated by a former
slave, who reminisces about the good old days back on the plantation
before the war, when all his needs were met by his kindly master and
mistress, and life was good. Needless to say, the sentimental
attitude towards the days of slavery expressed in those lyrics is
nowadays considered politically incorrect, so "Carry Me Back to Old
Virginny" been something of an embarrassment to the state of Virginia,
which is stuck with it as their state song. (Just as Maryland's
state song, "Maryland My Maryland", is a hymn denouncing the North
and urging the state to secede from the Union, remember.) Just last
month, or maybe the month before, the legislature finally dropped it
as the official song, but they haven't come up with a replacement.
There is talk of a re-write, "Carry Me Back to New Virginia", but that
sounds too politically correct, I think. I suppose now Calisota will
have to follow suit and get rid of "Carry Me Back to Calisoty", which
reminisces about the good old pre-strike days when the 'toons used
to labor in the fields of Burbank and have all their material needs
met by kindly old Uncle Walt.
Wilmer Rivers
Author
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Wilmer Rivers
Old Virginny
Message 136 -
1997-03-24 at 21:10:46
Marco Barlotti
YAIDM
Message 137 -
1997-03-24 at 22:47:35
Yet Another Italian Disney Magazine!
How can they figure them out, I wonder... This one (a bi-monthly) is called
"Ridi Topolino", meaning "Mickey Mouse Laugh" . Issue #1 carries a reprint
from "Topolino": I-1630-A, and if you wonder what that is you should check
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Topo2000.html
;-)
then a few S-coded and B-coded stories, some daily gags, and a brand new
8-pager, which allows me to tell that the "official" code for the new
magazine is I-RD (while I should have bet on I-RT...).
Meanwhile PKNA has become a monthly... I guess you really can't follow all
this stuff!
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #63
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How can they figure them out, I wonder... This one (a bi-monthly) is called
"Ridi Topolino", meaning "Mickey Mouse Laugh" . Issue #1 carries a reprint
from "Topolino": I-1630-A, and if you wonder what that is you should check
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Topo2000.html
;-)
then a few S-coded and B-coded stories, some daily gags, and a brand new
8-pager, which allows me to tell that the "official" code for the new
magazine is I-RD (while I should have bet on I-RT...).
Meanwhile PKNA has become a monthly... I guess you really can't follow all
this stuff!
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #63
*****************************************
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V97 #62
Message 138 -
1997-03-25 at 01:52:25
SHAUN:
Disney had many problems with the "personal hygiene" aspects of
"...Tightwad," as least as they perceived them. We didn't find out about
these objections till after the issue had been solicited. There wasn't time
to revamp the story to Disney's satisfaction and make the deadlines for
#611, so we shoved "...Silver Platter" into the breach.
Gary
****************************
"A glass eye! Then...you never saw me!"
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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Disney had many problems with the "personal hygiene" aspects of
"...Tightwad," as least as they perceived them. We didn't find out about
these objections till after the issue had been solicited. There wasn't time
to revamp the story to Disney's satisfaction and make the deadlines for
#611, so we shoved "...Silver Platter" into the breach.
Gary
****************************
"A glass eye! Then...you never saw me!"
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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Jonathan Markoff
To write or not to write?
Message 139 -
1997-03-25 at 05:18:04
I need a definitive judgement here. I really have an urge to write to Carl
Barks, spurred on by the sudden appearance of a rare comet at his 96th
birthday, but I remember a discussion here that advised against that. So
which is right? Please tell me what you all think, and how to go about doing
that!
--Jonathan Markoff
Barks, spurred on by the sudden appearance of a rare comet at his 96th
birthday, but I remember a discussion here that advised against that. So
which is right? Please tell me what you all think, and how to go about doing
that!
--Jonathan Markoff
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney comics Digest V97 #63
Message 140 -
1997-03-25 at 10:34:14
KRITON:
> Better yet, why not simply post a brief note such as:
>
> "Gladstone June comics previews are now available in
> http://www.mania.com/comics/news/june_rel/gladstone.html"?
The problem with that is that I post the information for two reasons: One is to
inform and one is to possibly begin a discussion on whatever may be in there.
Often, there's something to talk about. You can't have that started without
including the listings.
As for skipping by it, well, I guess I could include something like "###" at
the end of the message so you could just, upon seeing my message beginning, do
a search for "###" which would skip you right by the message. Or, of course,
do a search for my name -- it's in my .sig at the conclusion of the message.
-Augie, just picked up last week's Gladstone Haul from the local comics shop -
_4_ books came out, all with new cover art! They look great.
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * VR.5 FAQkeeper
Watch VR.5 on The Sci-Fi Channel Tuesday Nights, 10 p.m. EST!
Then read the FAQ: http://www.nic.com/~augie/vr5/index.htm
> Better yet, why not simply post a brief note such as:
>
> "Gladstone June comics previews are now available in
> http://www.mania.com/comics/news/june_rel/gladstone.html"?
The problem with that is that I post the information for two reasons: One is to
inform and one is to possibly begin a discussion on whatever may be in there.
Often, there's something to talk about. You can't have that started without
including the listings.
As for skipping by it, well, I guess I could include something like "###" at
the end of the message so you could just, upon seeing my message beginning, do
a search for "###" which would skip you right by the message. Or, of course,
do a search for my name -- it's in my .sig at the conclusion of the message.
-Augie, just picked up last week's Gladstone Haul from the local comics shop -
_4_ books came out, all with new cover art! They look great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * VR.5 FAQkeeper
Watch VR.5 on The Sci-Fi Channel Tuesday Nights, 10 p.m. EST!
Then read the FAQ: http://www.nic.com/~augie/vr5/index.htm
Marco Barlotti
Phooey-Fooey
Message 141 -
1997-03-25 at 13:28:43
Per:
>
>Interesting. This Fooey conspiracy is greater than anyone thought at
>first... I've added Marco's evidence to the other ones I have -- now
>seven different stories! This must be "S 78120", and in the Database
>there are no other publications of it than this one in Italy.
>
>(This story is unfortunately not in S-coded.stories, for some reason.)
>
Now, what I am wondering is: given that this story has never been published
but in Italy; given that it is not in "S-coded stories"; how can you tell
it's <S 78120>?
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
>
>Interesting. This Fooey conspiracy is greater than anyone thought at
>first... I've added Marco's evidence to the other ones I have -- now
>seven different stories! This must be "S 78120", and in the Database
>there are no other publications of it than this one in Italy.
>
>(This story is unfortunately not in S-coded.stories, for some reason.)
>
Now, what I am wondering is: given that this story has never been published
but in Italy; given that it is not in "S-coded stories"; how can you tell
it's <S 78120>?
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
Byron Erickson
Who's the leader of the club...
Message 142 -
1997-03-25 at 16:38:41
Way back in Digest 55, CHRISTER HANSSEN wrote:
> The last weeks have issued a Mickey story where some professor has invented
> a dimensiontransporter and they use it to remove the snow from the streets.
> Goofy gets sucked up and transported to a dimension inhabited by fish
> wearing glassbobles filled with water on their head because there is no
> water to swim in. I don't remember the code now, but does anybody know who
> made it? It's a quite funny Mickey story, which a usually don't think of his
> stories.
The story is D 96044, "Snow Use", by Stefan Petrucha (writer) and
Ferioli (artist)... and... um... Byron Erickson (editorial
interference). It *is* very funny, but then I think most of our "new"
Mickey stories are great.
--Byron "He ain't dead, he's only sleeping" Erickson
> The last weeks have issued a Mickey story where some professor has invented
> a dimensiontransporter and they use it to remove the snow from the streets.
> Goofy gets sucked up and transported to a dimension inhabited by fish
> wearing glassbobles filled with water on their head because there is no
> water to swim in. I don't remember the code now, but does anybody know who
> made it? It's a quite funny Mickey story, which a usually don't think of his
> stories.
The story is D 96044, "Snow Use", by Stefan Petrucha (writer) and
Ferioli (artist)... and... um... Byron Erickson (editorial
interference). It *is* very funny, but then I think most of our "new"
Mickey stories are great.
--Byron "He ain't dead, he's only sleeping" Erickson
Byron Erickson
...of the club that's made for you and me?
Message 143 -
1997-03-25 at 19:15:36
Whoops! I answered a message from Digest 55 before finding the following
on the same subject in Digest 59 (yeah, yeah... I'm more than a little
behind in my reading, but... uh... I've been... um... drat! I don't even
have a good excuse).
OLE R. NIELSEN
> This funny dimension warp caper is probably by Byron "I can
> write my own quotes" Ericson, if I recognize the style right. Ferioli's
> art is unmistakable, though maybe a little less detailed than they
> used to be. A recuring character, 'Kosmo Kvantemose', who is a sort
> of parallel to Gyro for the Mickey stories also appears, and I believe
> he is created by Byron. Why not use Marlin and Zapotek from the Italian
> time machine stories, and what's his 'real' name BTW, Byron?
Gosh, I wish the story was mine, but it's not. What is mine is the
pacing, which is probably what you recognize. For better or worse, I've
got a "rhythm" in my head that determines gag timing, story flow,
dialogue, etc. But then, I was scared by an itinerant mariachi band as a
child, so who knows what it all means?
The scientist's name is "Doc Static", and he was "created" by me, Anina
Bennett (when she was working for Egmont as an editor), and Ferioli. We
don't use the Italian scientists because I, personally, don't find them
very interesting.
You're right that Static is supposed to be the Gyro of Mickey's universe
(in that he can invent just about anything), but he's not always as
competent as Gyro, and he has a good sense of humor (is even a bit of a
practical joker). I like the way we've used him so far -- for example,
he's silly enough to invent a stretching formula just becuase he's been
reading Plastic Man comics.
> Sheesh, not one mention of Ferioli on the list for the last
> 3-4 months, so maybe I have to remind you:
> He was the artist on "One Mouse and His Dog" in "MM & DD" #5 (also
> written by our own Byron Ericson, and everyone agreed that he was
> probably the best thing to happen to the mouse, since... I'm not even
> old enough to remember when!
Yeah! What's with you guys, anyway -- you all got duck complexes, or
somethin'?
JUERGEN GEBHARDT
> The code is D96044 and the story is also serialized in MICKY MAUS 11-13/97.
> I haven't read the story yet, because I prefer to read the complete
> story and am waiting for the third part, but the artwork looks like
> Ferioli who draws a very quirky Mickey. His body language is very
> expressive. Did you notice that because of his short pants Mickey looks
> much younger in recent Ferioli stories. There are even stories where he
> seems to be a teenager. In D95119 ("Dichterfreud, Dichterleid", written by
> David Gerstein, MICKY MAUS 4/97) he works as a messenger boy for Prof.
> Dustibones, whereas usually he acts more like an experienced troubleshooter
> for the professor (see, for instance, the "Jurassic" stories, written by
> Pat McGreal). The appearance of Mickey's old friend Butch from the early
> Gottfredson strips in D95119 furthers the notion that this might be a tale
> from Mickey's youth. Was this intended, David G.?
> BTW, in my favorite Ferioli-drawn Mickey Mouse story (D93379 "Fantasy
> Island", written by Byron Erickson, WALT DISNEY GIANT 5) Mickey and Minnie
> are clearly adults.
Hm... David Gerstein and I have had an endless discussion about just how
old Mickey is. Me, I like to think of him as being the age of the heroes
of the old American boys series books I read in the 1950s (the Hardy
Boys, Ken Holt, Rick Brant, etc.). They were always 18 or 19 (so they
could drive fast cars, punch out crooks, and stay out all night without
getting yelled at by their moms), but were interested in all the things
a 12-year-old boy could identify with (food, sports, food, practical
jokes, food, showing off, food, nifty gadgets, food, and even girls, if
they don't get TOO mushy).
And since I get the final word, David's mouse is going to grow up a
little.
-- Byron "David Gerstein wishes I WAS dead" Erickson
on the same subject in Digest 59 (yeah, yeah... I'm more than a little
behind in my reading, but... uh... I've been... um... drat! I don't even
have a good excuse).
OLE R. NIELSEN
> This funny dimension warp caper is probably by Byron "I can
> write my own quotes" Ericson, if I recognize the style right. Ferioli's
> art is unmistakable, though maybe a little less detailed than they
> used to be. A recuring character, 'Kosmo Kvantemose', who is a sort
> of parallel to Gyro for the Mickey stories also appears, and I believe
> he is created by Byron. Why not use Marlin and Zapotek from the Italian
> time machine stories, and what's his 'real' name BTW, Byron?
Gosh, I wish the story was mine, but it's not. What is mine is the
pacing, which is probably what you recognize. For better or worse, I've
got a "rhythm" in my head that determines gag timing, story flow,
dialogue, etc. But then, I was scared by an itinerant mariachi band as a
child, so who knows what it all means?
The scientist's name is "Doc Static", and he was "created" by me, Anina
Bennett (when she was working for Egmont as an editor), and Ferioli. We
don't use the Italian scientists because I, personally, don't find them
very interesting.
You're right that Static is supposed to be the Gyro of Mickey's universe
(in that he can invent just about anything), but he's not always as
competent as Gyro, and he has a good sense of humor (is even a bit of a
practical joker). I like the way we've used him so far -- for example,
he's silly enough to invent a stretching formula just becuase he's been
reading Plastic Man comics.
> Sheesh, not one mention of Ferioli on the list for the last
> 3-4 months, so maybe I have to remind you:
> He was the artist on "One Mouse and His Dog" in "MM & DD" #5 (also
> written by our own Byron Ericson, and everyone agreed that he was
> probably the best thing to happen to the mouse, since... I'm not even
> old enough to remember when!
Yeah! What's with you guys, anyway -- you all got duck complexes, or
somethin'?
JUERGEN GEBHARDT
> The code is D96044 and the story is also serialized in MICKY MAUS 11-13/97.
> I haven't read the story yet, because I prefer to read the complete
> story and am waiting for the third part, but the artwork looks like
> Ferioli who draws a very quirky Mickey. His body language is very
> expressive. Did you notice that because of his short pants Mickey looks
> much younger in recent Ferioli stories. There are even stories where he
> seems to be a teenager. In D95119 ("Dichterfreud, Dichterleid", written by
> David Gerstein, MICKY MAUS 4/97) he works as a messenger boy for Prof.
> Dustibones, whereas usually he acts more like an experienced troubleshooter
> for the professor (see, for instance, the "Jurassic" stories, written by
> Pat McGreal). The appearance of Mickey's old friend Butch from the early
> Gottfredson strips in D95119 furthers the notion that this might be a tale
> from Mickey's youth. Was this intended, David G.?
> BTW, in my favorite Ferioli-drawn Mickey Mouse story (D93379 "Fantasy
> Island", written by Byron Erickson, WALT DISNEY GIANT 5) Mickey and Minnie
> are clearly adults.
Hm... David Gerstein and I have had an endless discussion about just how
old Mickey is. Me, I like to think of him as being the age of the heroes
of the old American boys series books I read in the 1950s (the Hardy
Boys, Ken Holt, Rick Brant, etc.). They were always 18 or 19 (so they
could drive fast cars, punch out crooks, and stay out all night without
getting yelled at by their moms), but were interested in all the things
a 12-year-old boy could identify with (food, sports, food, practical
jokes, food, showing off, food, nifty gadgets, food, and even girls, if
they don't get TOO mushy).
And since I get the final word, David's mouse is going to grow up a
little.
-- Byron "David Gerstein wishes I WAS dead" Erickson
Vidar Svendsen
Andold Wild Duck
Message 144 -
1997-03-25 at 19:32:27
At 00:20 24.03.97 +0100, you wrote:
>I know only of another Andold Wild Duck story,
>I - AT - 277 (1/1/1980)
>Le avventure di Mac Paperin: L'arrosto della salvezza
>Rota/Rota
>36/avventura di MacPaperin nell'antica Caledonia/P, QQQ
>[SAPNS 61]
this story is in the Rota index in the database. It's been printed
in norway i 1982 (12-15) and in 1993 (Bilag 1). The last appearance
is NOT listed in the database.
Also missing in the database: the norwegian (and danish?)
appearance of I A-228 (DD og lille Tonn). It was printed in
Donald Duck Spesial 7-79
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen
Atombomben er b?de kjekk og grei.
Men vi har ikke noe naturlig milj
for den her p? vre Singsaker.
(Fru Flettfrid Andresen)
>I know only of another Andold Wild Duck story,
>I - AT - 277 (1/1/1980)
>Le avventure di Mac Paperin: L'arrosto della salvezza
>Rota/Rota
>36/avventura di MacPaperin nell'antica Caledonia/P, QQQ
>[SAPNS 61]
this story is in the Rota index in the database. It's been printed
in norway i 1982 (12-15) and in 1993 (Bilag 1). The last appearance
is NOT listed in the database.
Also missing in the database: the norwegian (and danish?)
appearance of I A-228 (DD og lille Tonn). It was printed in
Donald Duck Spesial 7-79
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen
Atombomben er b?de kjekk og grei.
Men vi har ikke noe naturlig milj
for den her p? vre Singsaker.
(Fru Flettfrid Andresen)
Harry Fluks
June's Gladstones
Message 145 -
1997-03-25 at 21:16:49
DAVID:
[story in upcoming WDC]
> a Fred Milton story new to us Americans. Harry -- would you
> guess this story is H84051 or H84055?
> Does one seem more likely to you than the other?
I really don't know!
Dwight: did you translate/script this one?
--Harry.
[story in upcoming WDC]
> a Fred Milton story new to us Americans. Harry -- would you
> guess this story is H84051 or H84055?
> Does one seem more likely to you than the other?
I really don't know!
Dwight: did you translate/script this one?
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Strobl & Murry in The Art Bin
Message 146 -
1997-03-25 at 21:20:14
KARL-ERIK:
> my cultural magazine The Art Bin is out with a new issue about comics.
> Anders Berglund writes about Tony Strobl, and Germund Silvegren about Paul
> Murry
Those are really great articles! Are they only temporarily on your web page? (The
term "magazine" seems to indicate that.) They deserve a *permament* place, for
instance on the creators pages of our (Per's) Disney-comics website!
What do you think? (And what do the authors think?)
--Harry.
> my cultural magazine The Art Bin is out with a new issue about comics.
> Anders Berglund writes about Tony Strobl, and Germund Silvegren about Paul
> Murry
Those are really great articles! Are they only temporarily on your web page? (The
term "magazine" seems to indicate that.) They deserve a *permament* place, for
instance on the creators pages of our (Per's) Disney-comics website!
What do you think? (And what do the authors think?)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Phooey(-Fooey)
Message 147 -
1997-03-25 at 21:30:03
Per:
> This must be "S 78120", and in the Database
> there are no other publications of it than this one in Italy.
> (This story is unfortunately not in S-coded.stories, for some reason.)
Marco:
> how can you tell it's <S 78120>?
This code is from Benassi Miroslav's (or Miroslav Benassi's) Italian index.
Since he only listed the code and the Italian title, I saw no reason to
include the story in the S-coded file. I think we would at least need some
more information like page count or credits. (The artist Strobl was not in
BM's index.)
Since this is a Phooey-appearance, I think I'll include the story in the next version
of the Database.
--Harry.
> This must be "S 78120", and in the Database
> there are no other publications of it than this one in Italy.
> (This story is unfortunately not in S-coded.stories, for some reason.)
Marco:
> how can you tell it's <S 78120>?
This code is from Benassi Miroslav's (or Miroslav Benassi's) Italian index.
Since he only listed the code and the Italian title, I saw no reason to
include the story in the S-coded file. I think we would at least need some
more information like page count or credits. (The artist Strobl was not in
BM's index.)
Since this is a Phooey-appearance, I think I'll include the story in the next version
of the Database.
--Harry.
Deckerd
June's Gladstones
Message 148 -
1997-03-26 at 01:31:04
On Mar 25, 9:16pm, Harry Fluks wrote:
> Subject: June's Gladstones
> DAVID:
>
> [story in upcoming WDC]
> > a Fred Milton story new to us Americans. Harry -- would you
> > guess this story is H84051 or H84055?
> > Does one seem more likely to you than the other?
>
> I really don't know!
> Dwight: did you translate/script this one?
>
The only Milton story I've worked on that Gladstone still
has in a file folder somewhere is the cod-liver oil one.
If the one coming up is that one, I did it. If it isn't,
I didn't.
--Dwight
> Subject: June's Gladstones
> DAVID:
>
> [story in upcoming WDC]
> > a Fred Milton story new to us Americans. Harry -- would you
> > guess this story is H84051 or H84055?
> > Does one seem more likely to you than the other?
>
> I really don't know!
> Dwight: did you translate/script this one?
>
The only Milton story I've worked on that Gladstone still
has in a file folder somewhere is the cod-liver oil one.
If the one coming up is that one, I did it. If it isn't,
I didn't.
--Dwight
Deckerd
Phooey(-Fooey)
Message 149 -
1997-03-26 at 01:42:30
On Mar 25, 9:30pm, Harry Fluks wrote:
> Since this is a Phooey-appearance, I think I'll include the story in
the next version
> of the Database.
How is Phooey defined? That is, I looked up a couple of
alleged appearances in Barks's stories, and "Phooey" just
seemed to be a background character (as in a crowd of
Junior Woodchucks) who happened to look like a duck.
Unless somebody wants to make the argument that Huey,
Dewey, and Louie are the only ducklings in the world,
and any other duckling, even a background character
seen in one panel and never again, is Phooey, I'm not
so sure. I'd limit Phooey to obvious accidents where
the artist is clearly intending to draw Huey, Dewey,
and Louie and miscounts.
Meanwhile, I'm still chuckling over the story I saw a
while back in the Danish weekly where HD&L get April,
May, and June to take their places at a swanky society
affair they don't want to go to, and there are panels
with four, five, and even six apparent nephews. What
next -- Gyro invents a duplicating ray that goes out
of control while pointed at the nephews and starts
pouring out thousands of ducklings? (Or better yet --
it's the Bizarro duplicator from Superman comics,
and you get thousands of Bizarro-Woodchucks. "Me am
Bizarro-Woodchuck. Me do bad deed for day -- me push
old lady out into middle of traffic!")
Uh oh -- it must be the end of the day. I'm getting silly...
--Dwight Decker
> Since this is a Phooey-appearance, I think I'll include the story in
the next version
> of the Database.
How is Phooey defined? That is, I looked up a couple of
alleged appearances in Barks's stories, and "Phooey" just
seemed to be a background character (as in a crowd of
Junior Woodchucks) who happened to look like a duck.
Unless somebody wants to make the argument that Huey,
Dewey, and Louie are the only ducklings in the world,
and any other duckling, even a background character
seen in one panel and never again, is Phooey, I'm not
so sure. I'd limit Phooey to obvious accidents where
the artist is clearly intending to draw Huey, Dewey,
and Louie and miscounts.
Meanwhile, I'm still chuckling over the story I saw a
while back in the Danish weekly where HD&L get April,
May, and June to take their places at a swanky society
affair they don't want to go to, and there are panels
with four, five, and even six apparent nephews. What
next -- Gyro invents a duplicating ray that goes out
of control while pointed at the nephews and starts
pouring out thousands of ducklings? (Or better yet --
it's the Bizarro duplicator from Superman comics,
and you get thousands of Bizarro-Woodchucks. "Me am
Bizarro-Woodchuck. Me do bad deed for day -- me push
old lady out into middle of traffic!")
Uh oh -- it must be the end of the day. I'm getting silly...
--Dwight Decker
Juergen Gebhardt
Disney comics Digest V97 #60
Message 150 -
1997-03-26 at 23:34:06
DAVID GERSTEIN
> An interesting afterthought on D95119: the German translator did
> an excellent job with the morality rhymes, realizing that they were a
> parody of Heinrich Hoffmann's STRUWWELPETER and translating them
> appropriately. (On the other hand, the translator seems to have missed
> Butch, who has been called Dicker in the past in Germany. Here, he's
> Eddi.)
It's not unusual in German translations that the supporting characters'
names are changed in successive stories. Even Erika Fuchs wasn't consistent.
Also, "Dicker" was only used in the Gottfredson reprints in the book series
"Mickys Klassiker" which is now out-of-print here in Germany and was
probably never seen by the kids who read MICKY MAUS today.
I guess "Butch" is a nickname for someone who is a little rough or
threatening in his behaviour. "Dicker" is a nickname without the
threatening connotations, meaning primarily "thick or fat one" or "Fatty".
In D95119, Butch doesn't look fat at all. So if the translator
was aware of the previous translation this might be the reason
he chose to ignore it and to use a "real" name like "Eddi" (which, BTW,
works fine for me).
Keep on duckin'
Juergen Gebhardt
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> An interesting afterthought on D95119: the German translator did
> an excellent job with the morality rhymes, realizing that they were a
> parody of Heinrich Hoffmann's STRUWWELPETER and translating them
> appropriately. (On the other hand, the translator seems to have missed
> Butch, who has been called Dicker in the past in Germany. Here, he's
> Eddi.)
It's not unusual in German translations that the supporting characters'
names are changed in successive stories. Even Erika Fuchs wasn't consistent.
Also, "Dicker" was only used in the Gottfredson reprints in the book series
"Mickys Klassiker" which is now out-of-print here in Germany and was
probably never seen by the kids who read MICKY MAUS today.
I guess "Butch" is a nickname for someone who is a little rough or
threatening in his behaviour. "Dicker" is a nickname without the
threatening connotations, meaning primarily "thick or fat one" or "Fatty".
In D95119, Butch doesn't look fat at all. So if the translator
was aware of the previous translation this might be the reason
he chose to ignore it and to use a "real" name like "Eddi" (which, BTW,
works fine for me).
Keep on duckin'
Juergen Gebhardt
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