hello...my first letter to you all. I'm a big Barks fan and collector:
have been since age ten(1960).
Regarding Arthur Conan Doyle and the "Hollywood Influence":
I am reminded of DD #54(1957) where Donald and the boys go to a "hidden
valley" of dinosaurs in South America to find a wasp to destroy the
"auger-nosed pickle hater" which is ruining Duckberg's cucumber crop. I
note Spielberg's new film sequel to "Jurassic Park" titled, I believe,
"Lost World". Perhaps the author of the book "Lost World" (Crichton?)
read Carl Barks as a child and saw the Arthur Conan Doyle silent film.
Popular stories get told and retold. William Shakespeare was about the
umpteenth
writer/playwright to come along and do a version of "Romeo and Juliet".
Barks certainly was influenced by (and made fun of) popular culture.
What comes out of the Los Angeles film studios(in my opinion) is largely
a reflection of popular culture, without much original content. This
makes the notion "Hollywood Influence"
problematic.
I, too, would like to write to Carl Barks to acknowledge him as a large
and positive influence on me in my formative years. Unfortunately I lack
an address to
write to. Help would be greatly appreciated in this regard.
Rob Gibson
Goleta, Ca.
Author
Topic: 199704
(187 messages)
Rob Gibson
Hollywood influences
Message 1 -
1997-04-01 at 00:16:20
Deckerd
hollywood influences
Message 2 -
1997-04-01 at 00:33:43
On Mar 31, 1:16pm, rob gibson wrote:
> I, too, would like to write to Carl Barks to acknowledge
> him as a large and positive influence on me in my formative
> years. Unfortunately I lack an address to write to. Help
> would be greatly appreciated in this regard.
> Rob Gibson
> Goleta, Ca.
Gasp! How ironic! The Duck Man used to live in Goleta! That
was where he was living in 1974 when Mark Evanier and I
visited him. If you hadn't waited so long, you could have
slipped a note under his door!
Anyway, I feel sorta lucky that I was able to tell him
how much he meant to me as a little shaver when I saw him
23 years ago. There are a couple of things I'd like to ask
him now about his stories, but they're just minor points
of trivia, and after 40 or 50 years he might not even
remember what inspired this or that bit of business.
It can be a little frustrating or annoying that Barks has
guardians at the gate answering his mail, though. At age
96, in a position where fans could be too demanding or
too irksome if they could reach him directly, I suppose
it's only understandable.
--Dwight Decker
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> I, too, would like to write to Carl Barks to acknowledge
> him as a large and positive influence on me in my formative
> years. Unfortunately I lack an address to write to. Help
> would be greatly appreciated in this regard.
> Rob Gibson
> Goleta, Ca.
Gasp! How ironic! The Duck Man used to live in Goleta! That
was where he was living in 1974 when Mark Evanier and I
visited him. If you hadn't waited so long, you could have
slipped a note under his door!
Anyway, I feel sorta lucky that I was able to tell him
how much he meant to me as a little shaver when I saw him
23 years ago. There are a couple of things I'd like to ask
him now about his stories, but they're just minor points
of trivia, and after 40 or 50 years he might not even
remember what inspired this or that bit of business.
It can be a little frustrating or annoying that Barks has
guardians at the gate answering his mail, though. At age
96, in a position where fans could be too demanding or
too irksome if they could reach him directly, I suppose
it's only understandable.
--Dwight Decker
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Christer Hanssen
Disney comics Digest V97 #68
Message 3 -
1997-04-03 at 03:40:00
IVAN:
>Does some of you from Norway, or any other part of the world now if there
>is any plans for any special printing of Lo$. I also like to know the
>Donald Duck & Co issues that had the first printing of this serie.
Egmont (they are making the norwegian Donald Duck & Co.) is going to publish
a hardcovered book in the autumn this year with all the Lo$ stories.
The first two parts of the series were published in issue 43/1992 as an own
comics (no:Bilag). After that the parts came approx. 3-5 issues apart. If
you want the exact issues just look at the webpage under Creators then Don
Rosa then Index and you'll have them after the "no:" prefix.
~Christer
>Does some of you from Norway, or any other part of the world now if there
>is any plans for any special printing of Lo$. I also like to know the
>Donald Duck & Co issues that had the first printing of this serie.
Egmont (they are making the norwegian Donald Duck & Co.) is going to publish
a hardcovered book in the autumn this year with all the Lo$ stories.
The first two parts of the series were published in issue 43/1992 as an own
comics (no:Bilag). After that the parts came approx. 3-5 issues apart. If
you want the exact issues just look at the webpage under Creators then Don
Rosa then Index and you'll have them after the "no:" prefix.
~Christer
Robert Wright
Disney comics Digest V97 #68
Message 4 -
1997-04-03 at 05:02:50
DON:
>I'll say that I'm working on this Eldorado story right now
>that had a sequence of the Ducks driving a heavy transport truck
>through South American mountains... so I spent a load of extra time
>watching and rewatching one of my laser discs to draw the truck
>from a certain old movie as the Ducks' truck. I make a point of
>mentioning this to you because it was a very famous FRENCH movie.
>And it gave me a line of dialogue for Donald to utter when $crooge
>mentions that he's paying him 30 cents per hour to drive the truck.
>But this sort of movie reference is so obscure that it's meant
>almost entirely as a private joke to myself.
Hello again. I've been lurking here for quite a while without
posting, but just couldn't pass up your reference to WAGES OF FEAR (1953).
Excellent thriller. I seem to recall the large truck was a Mercedes-Benz.
Are you going to put the three-pointed star on the truck in the Eldorado
story?
ô (Email removed) ô
õ Bob Wright õ
>I'll say that I'm working on this Eldorado story right now
>that had a sequence of the Ducks driving a heavy transport truck
>through South American mountains... so I spent a load of extra time
>watching and rewatching one of my laser discs to draw the truck
>from a certain old movie as the Ducks' truck. I make a point of
>mentioning this to you because it was a very famous FRENCH movie.
>And it gave me a line of dialogue for Donald to utter when $crooge
>mentions that he's paying him 30 cents per hour to drive the truck.
>But this sort of movie reference is so obscure that it's meant
>almost entirely as a private joke to myself.
Hello again. I've been lurking here for quite a while without
posting, but just couldn't pass up your reference to WAGES OF FEAR (1953).
Excellent thriller. I seem to recall the large truck was a Mercedes-Benz.
Are you going to put the three-pointed star on the truck in the Eldorado
story?
ô (Email removed) ô
õ Bob Wright õ
Frank Fabian
War of the Wendigo
Message 5 -
1997-04-03 at 09:17:35
EIRIK:
>>I remember way back when (it was 1993 or so), when the Disney Company (it
>>was Mr. Seidman, I believe), had announced the upcoming publication of
>>Rosa's "The War of the Wendigo". Well, we know what happened to that story
>>in the U.S. I hope "Tightwad's" fortunes will be brighter (albeit cencored).
>
>I'm new to this list, and haven't heard about this. What happened ?
>
Disney objected to the use of the miniature Indians in this story. It's not
quite clear to me WHAT their precise objection was; seems to be a "political
correctness" thing about the portrayal of Indians (oops, of course I meant
Native Americans). Anyway, as a result, this story hasn't seen print in the
USA as of yet. There are no such problems in Europe, though; it was just
recently reprinted in Germany in the latest "Don Rosa" album.
Best regards, Frank
>>I remember way back when (it was 1993 or so), when the Disney Company (it
>>was Mr. Seidman, I believe), had announced the upcoming publication of
>>Rosa's "The War of the Wendigo". Well, we know what happened to that story
>>in the U.S. I hope "Tightwad's" fortunes will be brighter (albeit cencored).
>
>I'm new to this list, and haven't heard about this. What happened ?
>
Disney objected to the use of the miniature Indians in this story. It's not
quite clear to me WHAT their precise objection was; seems to be a "political
correctness" thing about the portrayal of Indians (oops, of course I meant
Native Americans). Anyway, as a result, this story hasn't seen print in the
USA as of yet. There are no such problems in Europe, though; it was just
recently reprinted in Germany in the latest "Don Rosa" album.
Best regards, Frank
Marco Barlotti
$ 2,000,000 comet/meteorite
Message 6 -
1997-04-03 at 13:22:08
My younger son (not yet 9) is becoming a Disney addict, and is already an
astronomy fan. Given that there is (at least) a Disney story on every
subject, he asked me for a story on comets (he's all taken by Hale-Bopp
right now). I found lots of Italian stories (from 1957, 1962, 1968, 1972,
1974, 1978 and 1979!), then I stumbled in a somehow strange one. It appeared
on "Topolino" # 1610 (5th October 1986) and HAS NO CODE which is very
strange since in 1986 EVERY story carried a code in the splash panel. It's
called "Uncle $crooge and the 2.000.000$ meteorite" BUT no meteorite at all
is mentioned in the story, which is all about a COMET, included the
explanations by Gyro on what a comet is made of and so on. It explicitly
quotes the skeptics club from U$ #65; the SAME club this time offers US$
2,000,000 for a piece of comet: $crooge succeeds in bringing it on earth,
but at the skeptics' banquet the comet piece is ground to make a sorbet!
I guess it is a B-coded story, but can't be 100% sure. Does any of you
recall it? Alipio? Any other one?
Thanks for your help,
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
astronomy fan. Given that there is (at least) a Disney story on every
subject, he asked me for a story on comets (he's all taken by Hale-Bopp
right now). I found lots of Italian stories (from 1957, 1962, 1968, 1972,
1974, 1978 and 1979!), then I stumbled in a somehow strange one. It appeared
on "Topolino" # 1610 (5th October 1986) and HAS NO CODE which is very
strange since in 1986 EVERY story carried a code in the splash panel. It's
called "Uncle $crooge and the 2.000.000$ meteorite" BUT no meteorite at all
is mentioned in the story, which is all about a COMET, included the
explanations by Gyro on what a comet is made of and so on. It explicitly
quotes the skeptics club from U$ #65; the SAME club this time offers US$
2,000,000 for a piece of comet: $crooge succeeds in bringing it on earth,
but at the skeptics' banquet the comet piece is ground to make a sorbet!
I guess it is a B-coded story, but can't be 100% sure. Does any of you
recall it? Alipio? Any other one?
Thanks for your help,
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
Harry Fluks
Don Rosa in Norway (and Sweden, and Finland, and...)
Message 7 -
1997-04-03 at 13:33:56
Christer, Ivan:
> If you want the exact issues just look at the webpage under Creators then Don
> Rosa then Index and you'll have them after the "no:" prefix.
Alternatively, you can look at the Norwegian Rosa index in my web pages,
http://www.pi.net/~fluks4/rosano.htm
(On the same site, I put Rosa indexes for other countries, including Italy.
And there's a preliminary version of an index of Don Rosa's non-Disney work.)
--Harry.
http://www.pi.net/~fluks4/disney.htm
> If you want the exact issues just look at the webpage under Creators then Don
> Rosa then Index and you'll have them after the "no:" prefix.
Alternatively, you can look at the Norwegian Rosa index in my web pages,
http://www.pi.net/~fluks4/rosano.htm
(On the same site, I put Rosa indexes for other countries, including Italy.
And there's a preliminary version of an index of Don Rosa's non-Disney work.)
--Harry.
http://www.pi.net/~fluks4/disney.htm
Harry Fluks
Database / Phooey-Fooey
Message 8 -
1997-04-03 at 13:34:46
UNCLE PER:
> the information that it was published in Topolino 1415 and the
> Italian title is also information!
You're right. I'll include such information in a future version, when I get
the time for it.
--Harry.
> the information that it was published in Topolino 1415 and the
> Italian title is also information!
You're right. I'll include such information in a future version, when I get
the time for it.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Eirik revisited
Message 9 -
1997-04-03 at 13:35:57
EIRIK:
> I read on the Disney Comics Pages that some kind of Barks collection a few
> years back had been redrawn in places, to avoid racial stereotypes etc. Has
> this also been done with the Gladstone libraries ?
Most of the stories from the Carl Barks Library ("some kind of Barks collection")
were reprinted in exactly the same form (but coloured) in the "Carl Barks Library
of xxx in Color". I know of one exception: the giveaway story "Santa's Stormy Visit",
which was in a better shape in the colour albums.
But isn't that mentioned on our web pages? If not, it should be! (Daniel? 8-)
> What happened [to Rosa's story "War of the Wendigo"]?
It was never published in the USA. Because the Disney company didn't
approve. Because the story contains Indians that all look alike, which
might possibly be regarded as a little offensive to Indians, maybe.
(In the meanwhile, Disney allows the reprint of Barks' original Peeweegah
story...)
--Harry.
> I read on the Disney Comics Pages that some kind of Barks collection a few
> years back had been redrawn in places, to avoid racial stereotypes etc. Has
> this also been done with the Gladstone libraries ?
Most of the stories from the Carl Barks Library ("some kind of Barks collection")
were reprinted in exactly the same form (but coloured) in the "Carl Barks Library
of xxx in Color". I know of one exception: the giveaway story "Santa's Stormy Visit",
which was in a better shape in the colour albums.
But isn't that mentioned on our web pages? If not, it should be! (Daniel? 8-)
> What happened [to Rosa's story "War of the Wendigo"]?
It was never published in the USA. Because the Disney company didn't
approve. Because the story contains Indians that all look alike, which
might possibly be regarded as a little offensive to Indians, maybe.
(In the meanwhile, Disney allows the reprint of Barks' original Peeweegah
story...)
--Harry.
The Auction Store
Disney comic auction
Message 10 -
1997-04-03 at 17:15:51
The Auction Store, http://www.theauctionstore.com/auction.html is having
an online auction right now which includes early edition comics with no
minimum.
an online auction right now which includes early edition comics with no
minimum.
Per Starback
Ending of message from David (Was: Disney comics Digest V97 #67)
Message 11 -
1997-04-03 at 18:27:06
David wrote:
> PER:
> In Digest #67, the last ten lines of my letter were deleted!
> Perhaps you know what's going on!
>
> Now I'll print that part of the letter again. Hopefully it will=
be
> complete in the Digest this time around.
But it wasn't. I don't know what's going on, but this is how David's
message was supposed to end, according to a private letter to me:
> J=DCRGEN:
> >It's not unusual in German translations that the supporting characters=
'
> >names are changed in successive stories. Even Erika Fuchs wasn't consi=
stent.
> >Also, "Dicker" was only used in the Gottfredson reprints in the book s=
eries
> >"Mickys Klassiker" which is now out-of-print here in Germany ...
> Actually, last summer's MM-Super-Sommer-Sonderheft, you may rec=
all
> that a story titled "Zirkusluft" appeared. It was actually two
> Gottfredson stories, "High Society" and "Circus Roustabout", one after =
the
> other. These stories used Butch, and his name remained Dicker even tho=
ugh
> the translations were different than in MICKYS KLASSIKER.
>
> David Gerstein
> <(Email removed)>
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> PER:
> In Digest #67, the last ten lines of my letter were deleted!
> Perhaps you know what's going on!
>
> Now I'll print that part of the letter again. Hopefully it will=
be
> complete in the Digest this time around.
But it wasn't. I don't know what's going on, but this is how David's
message was supposed to end, according to a private letter to me:
> J=DCRGEN:
> >It's not unusual in German translations that the supporting characters=
'
> >names are changed in successive stories. Even Erika Fuchs wasn't consi=
stent.
> >Also, "Dicker" was only used in the Gottfredson reprints in the book s=
eries
> >"Mickys Klassiker" which is now out-of-print here in Germany ...
> Actually, last summer's MM-Super-Sommer-Sonderheft, you may rec=
all
> that a story titled "Zirkusluft" appeared. It was actually two
> Gottfredson stories, "High Society" and "Circus Roustabout", one after =
the
> other. These stories used Butch, and his name remained Dicker even tho=
ugh
> the translations were different than in MICKYS KLASSIKER.
>
> David Gerstein
> <(Email removed)>
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Soeren Schridde
Rosa-sequels
Message 12 -
1997-04-03 at 19:05:00
Gary:
>Barks has made his opinions known about sequels to his stuff, and he's
>entitled to what he thinks, but your dealer is another matter entirely. I'm
>quite curious to know what you mean by "oppose Don Rosa." Do you mean he is
>against anything Don does, or just the sequels?
I don't remember what exactly he said, and it was over a year ago, so I won't
tell too much of hearsay or bad rememberings.
I think he disapproved that for example on the web Don depicted some mistakes or
or goofs Barks made in his stories... I got the impression he thinks of Rosa as
a kind of unthankful and not respecting Barks work... however he got to that.
If this is the only reason for him not to trade Rosa stuff, I don't know.
But as said above, this is only what I vaguely remember, so don't take it too
seriously, and that's why I don't say his name here... I could've got him wrong
somewhere...
The reason for posting it at all is to present some opinions that may result in
disliking Rosa and/or (his) sequels... thus this is as hopefully came clear not
my opinion.
Soeren
>Barks has made his opinions known about sequels to his stuff, and he's
>entitled to what he thinks, but your dealer is another matter entirely. I'm
>quite curious to know what you mean by "oppose Don Rosa." Do you mean he is
>against anything Don does, or just the sequels?
I don't remember what exactly he said, and it was over a year ago, so I won't
tell too much of hearsay or bad rememberings.
I think he disapproved that for example on the web Don depicted some mistakes or
or goofs Barks made in his stories... I got the impression he thinks of Rosa as
a kind of unthankful and not respecting Barks work... however he got to that.
If this is the only reason for him not to trade Rosa stuff, I don't know.
But as said above, this is only what I vaguely remember, so don't take it too
seriously, and that's why I don't say his name here... I could've got him wrong
somewhere...
The reason for posting it at all is to present some opinions that may result in
disliking Rosa and/or (his) sequels... thus this is as hopefully came clear not
my opinion.
Soeren
Gary Leach
Keep on smilin'
Message 13 -
1997-04-03 at 19:11:32
I'll just keep sending this until it gets through:
ARCHONTIS:
"Tightwad" runs in three parts starting in WDC&S 612.
EIRIK:
"War of the Wendigo" ran into the same kind of whirl of Disney disapprovals
as "Tightwad," except in the case of "Wendigo" the Disney proposed
revisions that would have made it publishable in the USA were far too
extreme for anyone (even us hack-and-slice ghouls at Gladstone) to swallow.
My stepfamily is Native American. They are proud of their heritage, and
I've learned a lot from them about what it really means to respect that
heritage. When I read "Wendigo," the thought never crossed my mind that the
story would give any Native Americans pause, much less offense. You know
what I actually thought? "This will make *Disney* nervous." I've learned a
lot about what pushes Disney's buttons; thing is, I haven't yet figured out
how this nervousness is supposed to translate into respect for Native
Americans. It certainly hasn't impressed my stepfamily so far.
Gary
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"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you
think it means."
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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ARCHONTIS:
"Tightwad" runs in three parts starting in WDC&S 612.
EIRIK:
"War of the Wendigo" ran into the same kind of whirl of Disney disapprovals
as "Tightwad," except in the case of "Wendigo" the Disney proposed
revisions that would have made it publishable in the USA were far too
extreme for anyone (even us hack-and-slice ghouls at Gladstone) to swallow.
My stepfamily is Native American. They are proud of their heritage, and
I've learned a lot from them about what it really means to respect that
heritage. When I read "Wendigo," the thought never crossed my mind that the
story would give any Native Americans pause, much less offense. You know
what I actually thought? "This will make *Disney* nervous." I've learned a
lot about what pushes Disney's buttons; thing is, I haven't yet figured out
how this nervousness is supposed to translate into respect for Native
Americans. It certainly hasn't impressed my stepfamily so far.
Gary
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"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you
think it means."
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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Eirik Krogh Visted
Disney comics Digest V97 #69
Message 14 -
1997-04-03 at 22:31:13
HARRY:
>Most of the stories from the Carl Barks Library ("some kind of Barks
collection")
>were reprinted in exactly the same form (but coloured) in the "Carl Barks
Library
>of xxx in Color". I know of one exception: the giveaway story "Santa's
Stormy Visit",
>which was in a better shape in the colour albums.
I'm not quite sure what you mean here .... Sorry if this seems stupid, but
do you mean exactly the same as the redrawn issues, or exactly the same as
the originals ?
>But isn't that mentioned on our web pages? If not, it should be! (Daniel? 8-)
Well, it might be. I remember reading something on the web pages about a
black & white hardcover(?) Barks collection issued a few years ago, where
certain things had been redrawn. I tried to look it up at the webpages again
to be more specific about what collection I was talking about, but this time
I couldn't find it.
ANYONE:
>It was never published in the USA. Because the Disney company didn't
>approve. Because the story contains Indians that all look alike, which
>might possibly be regarded as a little offensive to Indians, maybe.
>(In the meanwhile, Disney allows the reprint of Barks' original Peeweegah
>story...)
Does anyone know if this story has been released in it's entirety in Norway
? If so, what issues should I look for ? Are there any other stories that
haven't been released or have been severely changed in the American issues
that I should try to get Norwegian copies of ?
>Most of the stories from the Carl Barks Library ("some kind of Barks
collection")
>were reprinted in exactly the same form (but coloured) in the "Carl Barks
Library
>of xxx in Color". I know of one exception: the giveaway story "Santa's
Stormy Visit",
>which was in a better shape in the colour albums.
I'm not quite sure what you mean here .... Sorry if this seems stupid, but
do you mean exactly the same as the redrawn issues, or exactly the same as
the originals ?
>But isn't that mentioned on our web pages? If not, it should be! (Daniel? 8-)
Well, it might be. I remember reading something on the web pages about a
black & white hardcover(?) Barks collection issued a few years ago, where
certain things had been redrawn. I tried to look it up at the webpages again
to be more specific about what collection I was talking about, but this time
I couldn't find it.
ANYONE:
>It was never published in the USA. Because the Disney company didn't
>approve. Because the story contains Indians that all look alike, which
>might possibly be regarded as a little offensive to Indians, maybe.
>(In the meanwhile, Disney allows the reprint of Barks' original Peeweegah
>story...)
Does anyone know if this story has been released in it's entirety in Norway
? If so, what issues should I look for ? Are there any other stories that
haven't been released or have been severely changed in the American issues
that I should try to get Norwegian copies of ?
Eirik Krogh Visted
Early Don Rosa story & Disney censorship
Message 15 -
1997-04-03 at 22:31:15
On Don Rosa's Lo$ webpages it says that certain drawings in the series had
to be redone because the Disney company didn't allow people pointing guns at
each other in their comics. I just read the norwegian release of a story
called "Solens s=F8nn", directly translated "Son of the sun", where there=
are
several frames where Gulbrand Gr=E5stein - again a Norwegian name, this is=
the
guy that Scrooge meets in South Africa in "Terror of the Transvaal" - is
clearly portrayed while pointing a gun at our favorite Ducks. How did this
story look in the US, if it was released at all ? And one more clue about
which story I'm talking about: it says in the introduction to the issue that
this was the first Disney story Rosa made.
to be redone because the Disney company didn't allow people pointing guns at
each other in their comics. I just read the norwegian release of a story
called "Solens s=F8nn", directly translated "Son of the sun", where there=
are
several frames where Gulbrand Gr=E5stein - again a Norwegian name, this is=
the
guy that Scrooge meets in South Africa in "Terror of the Transvaal" - is
clearly portrayed while pointing a gun at our favorite Ducks. How did this
story look in the US, if it was released at all ? And one more clue about
which story I'm talking about: it says in the introduction to the issue that
this was the first Disney story Rosa made.