At the risk of being called a Completist, and with the hope that this
is not an inappropriate forum, I have an extensive Barks collection that
I would like to add to. My wants are in the 1940's(surprise!).
I have many from this era already, and I have many duplicates. I would
be willing to share/trade/pay money!
I've also heard that Gladstone publishes several full color hard cover
compendiums that do not bow to the censors.
My nephew tells me Don Rosa is very good, though I know nothing about
him except what I've read here over the past week. Any suggestions
regarding stories I should read that would provide a good introduction
to him would be appreciated.
Thanks for the advice regarding writing Carl Barks. I still lack an
address.
Rob Gibson in Goleta
Author
Topic: 199704
(187 messages)
Rob Gibson
Collecting
Message 31 -
1997-04-05 at 03:49:46
Soeren Schridde
Questions to Barks
Message 32 -
1997-04-05 at 04:47:58
If noone else has asked Barks this question before, I'd be interested
in the following:
Some maniacs or purists, Barks enthusiastics or however one should
call them / they want to be called
oppose Don Rosa and hate him doing sequels to "original" stories...
as an example may stand my dealer, who sells me the whole Galdstone
albums except the ROSA-mini-series! He simply does not want to have
ROSA in his hands! Whether that is tolerant or not, I'd like to know
Barks opinion on Rosa (or others) doing sequels, and/or some words about these
conservative comic fans...
Just my 2 cents...
Soeren Schridde
<(Email removed)>
in the following:
Some maniacs or purists, Barks enthusiastics or however one should
call them / they want to be called
oppose Don Rosa and hate him doing sequels to "original" stories...
as an example may stand my dealer, who sells me the whole Galdstone
albums except the ROSA-mini-series! He simply does not want to have
ROSA in his hands! Whether that is tolerant or not, I'd like to know
Barks opinion on Rosa (or others) doing sequels, and/or some words about these
conservative comic fans...
Just my 2 cents...
Soeren Schridde
<(Email removed)>
Eric Chun
(No subject)
Message 33 -
1997-04-05 at 06:10:49
Harald wrote:
> The letters were all very personal and autographed -
> but... xeroxed!
It seems kind of sad that the frenzy for collecting has
led to personal letters being xeroxed.
One person (on the Pat Benatar mailing list) wrote that
he saved a kleenex Pat blew her nose in. (Pat Benatar
is a rock singer.)
Don wrote:
> I'll say that I'm working on this Eldorado story
> right now that had a sequence of the Ducks driving a
> heavy transport truck through South American moun-
> tains...
Is this a sequel to "The Guilded Man?" (Eldorado was
guilded man.)
See ya later.
Eric
> The letters were all very personal and autographed -
> but... xeroxed!
It seems kind of sad that the frenzy for collecting has
led to personal letters being xeroxed.
One person (on the Pat Benatar mailing list) wrote that
he saved a kleenex Pat blew her nose in. (Pat Benatar
is a rock singer.)
Don wrote:
> I'll say that I'm working on this Eldorado story
> right now that had a sequence of the Ducks driving a
> heavy transport truck through South American moun-
> tains...
Is this a sequel to "The Guilded Man?" (Eldorado was
guilded man.)
See ya later.
Eric
David Gerstein
Ten-Penny Opera
Message 34 -
1997-04-05 at 13:43:33
ANDERS AND #15/1997 apparently contains my Magica/Beagle Boys
12-pager "Ten-Penny Opera" (drawn by Daniel Branca). I'm curious to know
what readers thought of it... also whether the operas made any sense in
other languages! (As I originally wrote the story, the operas were genuine
ones, some by Gilbert and Sullivan...)
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
<(Email removed)>
12-pager "Ten-Penny Opera" (drawn by Daniel Branca). I'm curious to know
what readers thought of it... also whether the operas made any sense in
other languages! (As I originally wrote the story, the operas were genuine
ones, some by Gilbert and Sullivan...)
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
<(Email removed)>
Jan Lund Thomsen
Disney comics Digest V97 #42-70
Message 35 -
1997-04-05 at 18:19:19
Finally found the time to catch up. Getting a job sure zaps ones spare time!
Harry, Marco, Ole and any other fan of Kristians "Mesterdatalogen" are urged to
read on for a special announcement. ;)
[Digest #42]
DAVID:
>Senor Flintheart Glomgold, he el second-richest duck-o!
>When it come to saving string, he end up outta luck-o!
>Lose-o mucho contests - but he never take el hint-y!
>HEY, SENOR FLINTY!
Good, clean fun! Let's have those Mickey verses!
AUGIE:
>Yeah, I thought it was a reach myself, too. He used to have a hobby. Then he
>tried to make a business out of it and is choking on Gladstone comics... Those
>$9-for-32-pages paperweights... He's stopped stocking them for all but those
>of us who reserve them. He used to buy one extra to keep on the shelf, but
>not one has ever sold.
Same thing happened in my local shop. They used to bring in 15 copies of all
library titles. Most even managed to get sold, occationally making it necessary
to reorder some albums. This was of course back in the days of the WDC&S /
DDAdv albums... then came the the series scoring an all-time low on the value
for money scale: the U$Adv albums. 32 pages for *only* $9.95 ( more like $15 a
piece here in Denmark, actually. :/ ) My reason for buying it is that I don't
want to hunt for all the Barks stuff - so I just fork over the monthly number
of $9.95 bills, put it on my shelf and read it from start to finish some day.
No problem with the WDC&S/DDAdv albums, but 32 page albums? Come on Gladstone,
you could do better than this!
[Digest #49]
KRITON:
>"Pluto Saves the Ship" is also in the B&W Carl Barks Library. For anyone
>willing to spend that kind of money to read this particular story, it might be
>worth tracking that down, instead, and get to read a lot more of Barks'
>stories in the bargain.
Which set was it in? I recently spotted two sets for the price of one in a
comicsstore (the owner had ordered it without knowing what it was. :))
[Digest #59]
OLE:
>Marco and Harry:
>I still haven't seen Jan's translations of Kristian's stories, but
>I gave him your mail addresses and strict instructions, so he will
>probably find some time from his new job to get them to you (and me).
Sorry to have been keeping you guys on the edge of your seats for the past
month. I actually finished "Donald Duck: Computer Scientist!" in late February,
but due to unforseen twists of fate (getting a job, mainly) I have been unable
to put it online until now.
As for "stories" this is only my second translation of Kristians works - the
first one being "What if... stones could think?" (posted in an earlier digest).
Depending on the feedback I receive I might go for a translation of "Den
Elektriske And" (Do Androids Dream of Electric Ducks?) or some of the earlier
onepagers. Kristian is handling "Mean Genes" (DK: Held og held igen) himself.
Go to my personal web page at http://www.pip.dknet.dk/~pip781, and head for the
comics section. Here you'll find links to the original "Mesterdatalogen" as
well as the script for "Donald Duck: Computer Scientist!".
[Digest #60]
FREDRIK:
I'm also into Disney cartoons (not as much as I'm into the old
WarnerBros/MGM stuff, though) - Toy Tinkers has to be the funniest piece of
animation I have *ever* seen. However, I haven't heard of any mailing lists
devoted to this subject. Maybe I should try looking at what ml's are available
these days. Anyone know a good resource for looking up lists by title/subject?
[Digest #61]
AUGIE, DAVID, etc.:
Could we appoint one person to be the "official" www.mania.com forwarder? It
kinda bugs me having to wade through the same stuff time after time.
[Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #62]
DAVID:
> I think you'd better be the *only* one posting the mania.com
>previews here each month... so I heretofore resolve not to do it again,
>duplicating your listing of the issues, unless you're out of town at the
>time the previews appear... ;-)
AUGIE:
>We really must stop doing this. =) This is the second month in a row we've
>both sent the mania.com listings for Gladstone right after one another,
>unbeknownst to each other until after the fact. The job is all yours. =)
Great! Instead of having too many forwards we have now ended up with too few.
:)
[Digest #66]
PER:
>/Per (who got his first nephew today by the way)
I got my first niece last week. Gives me a couple of years to collect a bunch
of Duck magazines, Vinnie the Pooh books, etc to hand over to her. The dad does
collect the Jumbo's but there's not too much Barks material in those. :)
--- Jan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
Harry, Marco, Ole and any other fan of Kristians "Mesterdatalogen" are urged to
read on for a special announcement. ;)
[Digest #42]
DAVID:
>Senor Flintheart Glomgold, he el second-richest duck-o!
>When it come to saving string, he end up outta luck-o!
>Lose-o mucho contests - but he never take el hint-y!
>HEY, SENOR FLINTY!
Good, clean fun! Let's have those Mickey verses!
AUGIE:
>Yeah, I thought it was a reach myself, too. He used to have a hobby. Then he
>tried to make a business out of it and is choking on Gladstone comics... Those
>$9-for-32-pages paperweights... He's stopped stocking them for all but those
>of us who reserve them. He used to buy one extra to keep on the shelf, but
>not one has ever sold.
Same thing happened in my local shop. They used to bring in 15 copies of all
library titles. Most even managed to get sold, occationally making it necessary
to reorder some albums. This was of course back in the days of the WDC&S /
DDAdv albums... then came the the series scoring an all-time low on the value
for money scale: the U$Adv albums. 32 pages for *only* $9.95 ( more like $15 a
piece here in Denmark, actually. :/ ) My reason for buying it is that I don't
want to hunt for all the Barks stuff - so I just fork over the monthly number
of $9.95 bills, put it on my shelf and read it from start to finish some day.
No problem with the WDC&S/DDAdv albums, but 32 page albums? Come on Gladstone,
you could do better than this!
[Digest #49]
KRITON:
>"Pluto Saves the Ship" is also in the B&W Carl Barks Library. For anyone
>willing to spend that kind of money to read this particular story, it might be
>worth tracking that down, instead, and get to read a lot more of Barks'
>stories in the bargain.
Which set was it in? I recently spotted two sets for the price of one in a
comicsstore (the owner had ordered it without knowing what it was. :))
[Digest #59]
OLE:
>Marco and Harry:
>I still haven't seen Jan's translations of Kristian's stories, but
>I gave him your mail addresses and strict instructions, so he will
>probably find some time from his new job to get them to you (and me).
Sorry to have been keeping you guys on the edge of your seats for the past
month. I actually finished "Donald Duck: Computer Scientist!" in late February,
but due to unforseen twists of fate (getting a job, mainly) I have been unable
to put it online until now.
As for "stories" this is only my second translation of Kristians works - the
first one being "What if... stones could think?" (posted in an earlier digest).
Depending on the feedback I receive I might go for a translation of "Den
Elektriske And" (Do Androids Dream of Electric Ducks?) or some of the earlier
onepagers. Kristian is handling "Mean Genes" (DK: Held og held igen) himself.
Go to my personal web page at http://www.pip.dknet.dk/~pip781, and head for the
comics section. Here you'll find links to the original "Mesterdatalogen" as
well as the script for "Donald Duck: Computer Scientist!".
[Digest #60]
FREDRIK:
I'm also into Disney cartoons (not as much as I'm into the old
WarnerBros/MGM stuff, though) - Toy Tinkers has to be the funniest piece of
animation I have *ever* seen. However, I haven't heard of any mailing lists
devoted to this subject. Maybe I should try looking at what ml's are available
these days. Anyone know a good resource for looking up lists by title/subject?
[Digest #61]
AUGIE, DAVID, etc.:
Could we appoint one person to be the "official" www.mania.com forwarder? It
kinda bugs me having to wade through the same stuff time after time.
[Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #62]
DAVID:
> I think you'd better be the *only* one posting the mania.com
>previews here each month... so I heretofore resolve not to do it again,
>duplicating your listing of the issues, unless you're out of town at the
>time the previews appear... ;-)
AUGIE:
>We really must stop doing this. =) This is the second month in a row we've
>both sent the mania.com listings for Gladstone right after one another,
>unbeknownst to each other until after the fact. The job is all yours. =)
Great! Instead of having too many forwards we have now ended up with too few.
:)
[Digest #66]
PER:
>/Per (who got his first nephew today by the way)
I got my first niece last week. Gives me a couple of years to collect a bunch
of Duck magazines, Vinnie the Pooh books, etc to hand over to her. The dad does
collect the Jumbo's but there's not too much Barks material in those. :)
--- Jan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
Harry Fluks
Original Publishing Years of Rosa's Comics
Message 36 -
1997-04-05 at 19:01:09
MARJA (is that a male or female name?):
> I need to know the original
> publishing years of Rosa's works
The current Don Rosa indexes on the web (including my
http://www.pi.net/~fluks4/dcd.htm ) don't mention these years.
But I have a list of Rosa stories *with* years. I'll send you this
list in private mail.
As a simple rule of thumb: if the code of a Rosa story starts with
"AR", it was published in the USA in 1987, 1988 or 1989. If the
code starts with "H" or "K", it was published in 1990. If the code starts with
"D", the Finnish publication is one of the first publications.
But there are exceptions to this...
--Harry.
> I need to know the original
> publishing years of Rosa's works
The current Don Rosa indexes on the web (including my
http://www.pi.net/~fluks4/dcd.htm ) don't mention these years.
But I have a list of Rosa stories *with* years. I'll send you this
list in private mail.
As a simple rule of thumb: if the code of a Rosa story starts with
"AR", it was published in the USA in 1987, 1988 or 1989. If the
code starts with "H" or "K", it was published in 1990. If the code starts with
"D", the Finnish publication is one of the first publications.
But there are exceptions to this...
--Harry.
Vidar Svendsen
War of the Wendigo
Message 37 -
1997-04-06 at 01:11:56
At 21:31 03.04.97 +0200, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if this story has been released in it's entirety in Norway
>? If so, what issues should I look for ?=20
The issues you you should look for are DD & Co 45-47 1991.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen
Atombomben er b=E5de kjekk og grei.
Men vi har ikke noe naturlig milj=F8
for den her p=E5 =D8vre Singsaker.
(Fru Flettfrid Andresen)
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>Does anyone know if this story has been released in it's entirety in Norway
>? If so, what issues should I look for ?=20
The issues you you should look for are DD & Co 45-47 1991.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen
Atombomben er b=E5de kjekk og grei.
Men vi har ikke noe naturlig milj=F8
for den her p=E5 =D8vre Singsaker.
(Fru Flettfrid Andresen)
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #71
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Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #71
Message 38 -
1997-04-06 at 08:33:47
ERIC:
Is my new story "The Last Lord of Eldorado" a sequel to "The Gilded Man"?
Not really. Barks' story dealt with, as the title suggests, the Gilded Man,
the leader of a South American tribe of Chibcha Indians. The spaniards
called this legendary figure "El Dorado". But they came to call the lost
"city of gold" that the Gilded Man was supposed to have ruled "Eldorado",
obviously after him, but as a different definition, in the form of a single
word.
Anyway, Barks' story also told of the Gilded Man being in British Guiana,
which is thousands of miles from where he was supposed to have been in
legend and in fact. This apparently was an error Barks must have made in
reading the historical references to El Dorado (or Eldorado) which spoke of
him being in "Guiana", so Barks assumed this was the *modern* Guiana, which
is incorrect. The original Guiana was *all* of northeast South America from
the Atlantic to the Andes.
This gives me the opportunity to say that the Spaniards chased the Gilded
Man and his people east out of their lands (which is a fact), and they
finally were hounded to the Atlantic shore in the backwoods of British
Guiana... and that leaves the geographical Eldorado and all the gold of
legend still a tale untold. As you recall, Barks' tale had nothing to do
with any golden treasure that the Gilded Man and his people were supposed to
have. This they naturally would have left in their sacrificial lake on the
Cundimarca Plateau in the Cordillera Oriental, clear on the opposite side of
the continent.
Anyhow... the legendary treasures of South America are by far the greatest
of the Americas (it would take me a moment to think if there are ANY
legendary great treasures anywhere north of Mexico)... and I always put
Flintheart Glomgold in competition with $crooge for such vast hordes. It's
funny... I seem to use Flintheart almost strictly in South American stories,
including "Return to Plain Awful"... or the South African episode of the
"Lo$"... or the South Seas story of the "Island at the Edge of Time". (I
seem to use him for purposes of southern latitudes.) The first time I used
Flintheart was in a race for the lost gold of the Incas. In fact, that was
the first time I used $crooge or Donald or HD&L or *any* of these guys. And
this seemed a good point in time to send all these Ducks on another such
South American quest since (if I time this message to appear on Monday),
April 7, 1987, was the release date of U$#219, "The Son of the Sun". (I
thank list member Erik Horthe for pointing that out to me as I never keep
track of such stuff myself.)
So, "The Last Lord of Eldorado" is mostly a sequel to "Treasure Under
Glass", but it makes some references to both "The Gilded Man", and "The Son
of the Sun".
Is my new story "The Last Lord of Eldorado" a sequel to "The Gilded Man"?
Not really. Barks' story dealt with, as the title suggests, the Gilded Man,
the leader of a South American tribe of Chibcha Indians. The spaniards
called this legendary figure "El Dorado". But they came to call the lost
"city of gold" that the Gilded Man was supposed to have ruled "Eldorado",
obviously after him, but as a different definition, in the form of a single
word.
Anyway, Barks' story also told of the Gilded Man being in British Guiana,
which is thousands of miles from where he was supposed to have been in
legend and in fact. This apparently was an error Barks must have made in
reading the historical references to El Dorado (or Eldorado) which spoke of
him being in "Guiana", so Barks assumed this was the *modern* Guiana, which
is incorrect. The original Guiana was *all* of northeast South America from
the Atlantic to the Andes.
This gives me the opportunity to say that the Spaniards chased the Gilded
Man and his people east out of their lands (which is a fact), and they
finally were hounded to the Atlantic shore in the backwoods of British
Guiana... and that leaves the geographical Eldorado and all the gold of
legend still a tale untold. As you recall, Barks' tale had nothing to do
with any golden treasure that the Gilded Man and his people were supposed to
have. This they naturally would have left in their sacrificial lake on the
Cundimarca Plateau in the Cordillera Oriental, clear on the opposite side of
the continent.
Anyhow... the legendary treasures of South America are by far the greatest
of the Americas (it would take me a moment to think if there are ANY
legendary great treasures anywhere north of Mexico)... and I always put
Flintheart Glomgold in competition with $crooge for such vast hordes. It's
funny... I seem to use Flintheart almost strictly in South American stories,
including "Return to Plain Awful"... or the South African episode of the
"Lo$"... or the South Seas story of the "Island at the Edge of Time". (I
seem to use him for purposes of southern latitudes.) The first time I used
Flintheart was in a race for the lost gold of the Incas. In fact, that was
the first time I used $crooge or Donald or HD&L or *any* of these guys. And
this seemed a good point in time to send all these Ducks on another such
South American quest since (if I time this message to appear on Monday),
April 7, 1987, was the release date of U$#219, "The Son of the Sun". (I
thank list member Erik Horthe for pointing that out to me as I never keep
track of such stuff myself.)
So, "The Last Lord of Eldorado" is mostly a sequel to "Treasure Under
Glass", but it makes some references to both "The Gilded Man", and "The Son
of the Sun".
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #71
Message 39 -
1997-04-06 at 22:41:28
JAN LUND THOMSEN:
> >"Pluto Saves the Ship" is also in the B&W Carl Barks Library. For anyone
> >willing to spend that kind of money to read this particular story, it might
> be
> >worth tracking that down, instead, and get to read a lot more of Barks'
> >stories in the bargain.
> Which set was it in? I recently spotted two sets for the price of one in
a
> comicsstore (the owner had ordered it without knowing what it was. :))
It's in set VII, vol.3, pages 731-743.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Did you just see what I didn't see?"
"No."
"Neither did I!"
-----
> >"Pluto Saves the Ship" is also in the B&W Carl Barks Library. For anyone
> >willing to spend that kind of money to read this particular story, it might
> be
> >worth tracking that down, instead, and get to read a lot more of Barks'
> >stories in the bargain.
> Which set was it in? I recently spotted two sets for the price of one in
a
> comicsstore (the owner had ordered it without knowing what it was. :))
It's in set VII, vol.3, pages 731-743.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Did you just see what I didn't see?"
"No."
"Neither did I!"
-----
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #71
Message 40 -
1997-04-06 at 23:29:36
DON:
> Of course, this comes from a typical American who has grown up reading
> comics that were ALWAYS handlettered... but handlettering seems that it's
> *obviously* the only proper choice for comics. Everything on the page of a
> comic book is completely made by hand, so the lettering should be also. It
> has a much, much more friendly, intimate and ... comic-booky look to it.
How about the Greek "Comics", which is typeset? I've only read positive
comments about it.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Did you just see what I didn't see?"
"No."
"Neither did I!"
-----
> Of course, this comes from a typical American who has grown up reading
> comics that were ALWAYS handlettered... but handlettering seems that it's
> *obviously* the only proper choice for comics. Everything on the page of a
> comic book is completely made by hand, so the lettering should be also. It
> has a much, much more friendly, intimate and ... comic-booky look to it.
How about the Greek "Comics", which is typeset? I've only read positive
comments about it.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Did you just see what I didn't see?"
"No."
"Neither did I!"
-----
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney comics Digest V97 #70
Message 41 -
1997-04-07 at 01:36:06
KRITON:
> why only capital letters should be used. I recently got an issue of Donald
> Duck & Co. (thanks, Gaute!) where the word balloons are typeset in mixed case
> using a sans serif font, and the result is pretty slick. Isn't this a much
> better alternative?
You should see me shuddering behind my computer here. The very thought of a
type-set lettering being better is just -- abominable. Maybe it is a cultural
thing, I don't know. But when people speak, it happens naturally. Thus, when
they talk in a comic book, it should come naturally, as a hand moves a pen. If
they are writing something, then go ahead and show that in typeface. It is
fitting. But for regular conversation? Not for me, thanks.
Of course, this doesn't invalidate your opinion at all. I just can't comprehend
it. Cultural differences. =)
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
"It's funny how the earth never opens up and swallows you when
you want it to." -Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, WB Mon @ 9
> why only capital letters should be used. I recently got an issue of Donald
> Duck & Co. (thanks, Gaute!) where the word balloons are typeset in mixed case
> using a sans serif font, and the result is pretty slick. Isn't this a much
> better alternative?
You should see me shuddering behind my computer here. The very thought of a
type-set lettering being better is just -- abominable. Maybe it is a cultural
thing, I don't know. But when people speak, it happens naturally. Thus, when
they talk in a comic book, it should come naturally, as a hand moves a pen. If
they are writing something, then go ahead and show that in typeface. It is
fitting. But for regular conversation? Not for me, thanks.
Of course, this doesn't invalidate your opinion at all. I just can't comprehend
it. Cultural differences. =)
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
"It's funny how the earth never opens up and swallows you when
you want it to." -Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, WB Mon @ 9
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney comics Digest V97 #71
Message 42 -
1997-04-07 at 01:36:06
SOEREN:
> ROSA in his hands! Whether that is tolerant or not, I'd like to know
> Barks opinion on Rosa (or others) doing sequels, and/or some words about these
> conservative comic fans...
I'm curious as to how one who doesn't like Rosa stories becomes automatically
"conservative." Don't get me wrong; I love Don's stories. Just curious.
DAVID:
> ANDERS AND #15/1997 apparently contains my Magica/Beagle Boys
> 12-pager "Ten-Penny Opera" (drawn by Daniel Branca). I'm curious to know
Great, now I can start bugging Gladstone to reprint it! heh heh
JAN
> Great! Instead of having too many forwards we have now ended up with too few.
> :)
You missed - or deliberately left out for effect - the post where I agreed to
just do it.
-Augie, about six Disney comics behind right now with no looking forward. . .
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
"It's funny how the earth never opens up and swallows you when
you want it to." -Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, WB Mon @ 9
> ROSA in his hands! Whether that is tolerant or not, I'd like to know
> Barks opinion on Rosa (or others) doing sequels, and/or some words about these
> conservative comic fans...
I'm curious as to how one who doesn't like Rosa stories becomes automatically
"conservative." Don't get me wrong; I love Don's stories. Just curious.
DAVID:
> ANDERS AND #15/1997 apparently contains my Magica/Beagle Boys
> 12-pager "Ten-Penny Opera" (drawn by Daniel Branca). I'm curious to know
Great, now I can start bugging Gladstone to reprint it! heh heh
JAN
> Great! Instead of having too many forwards we have now ended up with too few.
> :)
You missed - or deliberately left out for effect - the post where I agreed to
just do it.
-Augie, about six Disney comics behind right now with no looking forward. . .
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"It's funny how the earth never opens up and swallows you when
you want it to." -Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, WB Mon @ 9
Anders Engwall
Don's French movie (guess)
Message 43 -
1997-04-07 at 14:25:39
Don Rosa:
> > I'll say that I'm working on this Eldorado story right now that had a
> > sequence of the Ducks driving a heavy transport truck through South
> > American mountains... I make a point of mentioning this to you
> > because it was a very famous FRENCH movie... But this sort of movie
> > reference is so obscure that it's meant almost entirely as a private
> > joke to myself... How many readers would even know it was a movie
> > reference? About 3?
Wilmer Rivers:
> Well, I'll take a stab at it. Is it the 1954 film "La Salarie de la
> Puer" ("The Wages of Fear"), directed by Henri-Georges Clouzot and
> starring Yves Montand?
Well, it certainly sounds like it... As a curiosity there's another,
earlier, movie along the same theme as Clouzot's; in 1943, one Frank
McDonald directed "High Explosive", which I haven't seen, but apparently
also is about nitro transportation.
But wait, there already is a Disney comic along roughly these lines!
In S 68023, drawn by Pete Alvarado and according to our index only
published in Denmark and Sweden (issue 8/1971 in both countries), Donald
and Fethry are hired by U$ to drive a truck full of dynamite along some
bumpy roads... (Whaddya mean, "obscure"?...)
/ Anders
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> > I'll say that I'm working on this Eldorado story right now that had a
> > sequence of the Ducks driving a heavy transport truck through South
> > American mountains... I make a point of mentioning this to you
> > because it was a very famous FRENCH movie... But this sort of movie
> > reference is so obscure that it's meant almost entirely as a private
> > joke to myself... How many readers would even know it was a movie
> > reference? About 3?
Wilmer Rivers:
> Well, I'll take a stab at it. Is it the 1954 film "La Salarie de la
> Puer" ("The Wages of Fear"), directed by Henri-Georges Clouzot and
> starring Yves Montand?
Well, it certainly sounds like it... As a curiosity there's another,
earlier, movie along the same theme as Clouzot's; in 1943, one Frank
McDonald directed "High Explosive", which I haven't seen, but apparently
also is about nitro transportation.
But wait, there already is a Disney comic along roughly these lines!
In S 68023, drawn by Pete Alvarado and according to our index only
published in Denmark and Sweden (issue 8/1971 in both countries), Donald
and Fethry are hired by U$ to drive a truck full of dynamite along some
bumpy roads... (Whaddya mean, "obscure"?...)
/ Anders
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Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #72
Message 44 -
1997-04-07 at 16:24:11
AUGIE:
> But when people speak, it happens naturally. Thus, when
> they talk in a comic book, it should come naturally, as a hand moves a pen. If
> they are writing something, then go ahead and show that in typeface. It is
> fitting. But for regular conversation? Not for me, thanks.
I have the vague impression of having read a book once, and I don't remember
regular conversation being hand-written. Of course, it might have been one
of those new-fangled post-Gutenberg affairs. (Insert lots of smileys and
exclamation marks here.)
Sarcasm aside, I would have thought that books have made people accustomed to
reading typeset text, making hand-writen text appear strange and unusual.
As someone pointed in this list, it probably all boils down to what one grew
up with.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"I have no silly prejudice against computers--I like them!"
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> But when people speak, it happens naturally. Thus, when
> they talk in a comic book, it should come naturally, as a hand moves a pen. If
> they are writing something, then go ahead and show that in typeface. It is
> fitting. But for regular conversation? Not for me, thanks.
I have the vague impression of having read a book once, and I don't remember
regular conversation being hand-written. Of course, it might have been one
of those new-fangled post-Gutenberg affairs. (Insert lots of smileys and
exclamation marks here.)
Sarcasm aside, I would have thought that books have made people accustomed to
reading typeset text, making hand-writen text appear strange and unusual.
As someone pointed in this list, it probably all boils down to what one grew
up with.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"I have no silly prejudice against computers--I like them!"
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A8201960
Disney comics Digest V97 #71
Message 45 -
1997-04-07 at 17:08:53
DWIGHT
>I guess to me, typeset word balloons and captions have a
"cheap" look. Like the publisher couldn't afford to hire
a decent letterer and just cranked out some quick and
dirty production. The typeset lettering looks so mechanical
and clashes so badly with the natural, hand-drawn art,
that I'm turned off. I used to hate the German editions
of Asterix because of their typeset word balloons (and
even sound effects, which really looked awful). Then I
talked to some German fans and found out they _preferred_
typeset lettering in comics because it looked so much
"clearer." Maybe it all depends on what you grew up with
and are used to...<
There is a lot to be said about the history of hand-lettering in
Europe, esp. Germany. But I'll settle for one factoid: Since I
stumbled upon the first handlettered Comics (German Marvels during
the 70ies) I prefer this stile - but for one exception: ASTERIX!
The Ehapa-Verlag who issues Asterix since the 60ies did everything
with manchine-type-set, spanning from all the Disney-material right to
DC-Comics (at one point they had Superman, Batman, Disney,
Peanuts, Andy Capp, Asterix and Lucky Luke in their program: speak
about monopoly!) So they had quite a hand in it. And they outdid
themselves with the Asterix-lettering: big letters, bold letters,
italics, small print, letters following a wavy line, gothic letters
and so on... a rare piece of (type-setting) craftmanship. And when
they finally did some hard-cover-hand-lettered Asterix-editions for
the book/collectors market end of the 80ies, I was very disappointed.
It was just your average lettering, not very inspired even, with no
obvious love for detail: fact is, the type-set albums look much more
...alive! But of course this is an exeption...
SOEREN
>Some maniacs or purists, Barks enthusiastics or however one should
call them / they want to be called
oppose Don Rosa and hate him doing sequels to "original" stories...
as an example may stand my dealer, who sells me the whole Galdstone
albums except the ROSA-mini-series! He simply does not want to have
ROSA in his hands! Whether that is tolerant or not, I'd like to know
Barks opinion on Rosa (or others) doing sequels, and/or some words about these
conservative comic fans... <
As far as I know, CB & studio dont answer that: they show a slight
disapproval (mainly of Dons style), but consider it not their
buisness and dont discuss it. That was at least the case in 1993,
when I met them in Munich. If something reached CB behind his
shielding, maybe he reconsidered...? But we can try anyway.
Quack
Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
>I guess to me, typeset word balloons and captions have a
"cheap" look. Like the publisher couldn't afford to hire
a decent letterer and just cranked out some quick and
dirty production. The typeset lettering looks so mechanical
and clashes so badly with the natural, hand-drawn art,
that I'm turned off. I used to hate the German editions
of Asterix because of their typeset word balloons (and
even sound effects, which really looked awful). Then I
talked to some German fans and found out they _preferred_
typeset lettering in comics because it looked so much
"clearer." Maybe it all depends on what you grew up with
and are used to...<
There is a lot to be said about the history of hand-lettering in
Europe, esp. Germany. But I'll settle for one factoid: Since I
stumbled upon the first handlettered Comics (German Marvels during
the 70ies) I prefer this stile - but for one exception: ASTERIX!
The Ehapa-Verlag who issues Asterix since the 60ies did everything
with manchine-type-set, spanning from all the Disney-material right to
DC-Comics (at one point they had Superman, Batman, Disney,
Peanuts, Andy Capp, Asterix and Lucky Luke in their program: speak
about monopoly!) So they had quite a hand in it. And they outdid
themselves with the Asterix-lettering: big letters, bold letters,
italics, small print, letters following a wavy line, gothic letters
and so on... a rare piece of (type-setting) craftmanship. And when
they finally did some hard-cover-hand-lettered Asterix-editions for
the book/collectors market end of the 80ies, I was very disappointed.
It was just your average lettering, not very inspired even, with no
obvious love for detail: fact is, the type-set albums look much more
...alive! But of course this is an exeption...
SOEREN
>Some maniacs or purists, Barks enthusiastics or however one should
call them / they want to be called
oppose Don Rosa and hate him doing sequels to "original" stories...
as an example may stand my dealer, who sells me the whole Galdstone
albums except the ROSA-mini-series! He simply does not want to have
ROSA in his hands! Whether that is tolerant or not, I'd like to know
Barks opinion on Rosa (or others) doing sequels, and/or some words about these
conservative comic fans... <
As far as I know, CB & studio dont answer that: they show a slight
disapproval (mainly of Dons style), but consider it not their
buisness and dont discuss it. That was at least the case in 1993,
when I met them in Munich. If something reached CB behind his
shielding, maybe he reconsidered...? But we can try anyway.
Quack
Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)