>Archontis (and others),
>Hey George, this is *my* column! :-))))
As you maybe noticed I didn't take *your* column for the new KOMIX, I just
made a few remarks.
They are wrong very often concerning either the attribution of the credits
to the artists either to many other contributors.
For example ,in the 65th DD Birthday editorial a painting made by Gottfried
Helnwein (1992 aquarelle) is attributed to Carl Barks .
I have the impression that the guys in the editorial team are a little bit
careless.
As for the prices of the back issues, I think they have all after the 60th
(not older) and start from about $6 (4 times more than the face value).
Current price of #1? Who knows!!
Georgios Balanikas
Author
Topic: 199910
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Georgios Balanikas
KOMIX #136
Message 31 -
1999-10-04 at 23:46:44
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Disney comics Digest V99 #172
Message 32 -
1999-10-05 at 01:50:58
I know recently in the MM Dailies published
on-line for my local newspaper (The San Jose Mercury News)
What is the address for this paper's site, and are the new strips good?
I heard that they were doing continuities again, but no one said anything
else about it. Who is drawing the strip now? If the stuff looks good I
may have to write my local paper!
Rodney Bowcock
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I heard that they were doing continuities again, but no one said anything
else about it. Who is drawing the strip now? If the stuff looks good I
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PB's nephews, GY's girlfriends & Murry stories
Message 33 -
1999-10-05 at 08:02:10
Rich:
>4) Phantom Blot's nephews. I know of the Phantom Blot's=20
>daughter who appeared in a two-part story, but I have never
>heard of any nephews before. Are they supposedly twins? And
>are they *kids* or *adults*? Were they enemies of Mickey or
>Mickey's nephews?
If I'm not mistaken, PB's nephews are a Brazilian creation.
They're kids, they're *triplets* and they're enemies of MM's nephews
and friend of "evil" nephews, like Beagle Brats and Hazel Witch's.
I know only two stories:
(no code) - Art: Carlos Herrero - PB: A visita dos Manchinhas
(PD#1228, DE#58) - App: PB's nephews (1st?), MM, MF.
B 74413 - Art: Carlos Herrero - Beagle Brats: O Clube dos Peraltas
(TP#116, SD#26) - App: MDS' niece, HW's nephew, PB's nephews.
Francois, about Ermengarda:
>I don't know this characater (though she did appear in France as well).
>But do you know there is another brazilian girlfriend of Gyro (a robot).
>I haven't the two stories where she appeared here, unfortunately, so I
>can't give you any story-code (for the moment).
Brazilian Ermengarda is the same character who appeared in
WDC&S #310 "GY: The Real Cool Canoe". ... And that GY's robot
girlfriend appeared only in *one* story:
B 830175 - Art:Irineu Soares Rodrigues - LVD: Pardal, esta e' a sua vida"
(EE #160) - App: GY, EE, Helper, Brazilian artist (caricatured).
In this story, our good Ludwig Von Drake tells Gyro's (funny) life.
The robot girlfriend is just part of GY's old memories and never
appeared again.
Now, a request:
I have a list with exactly 54 Paul Murry stories which
I'm unable to identify. I'm sure they are in INDUCKS though.
If someone *really* enjoy identifying stories based
on brief summaries, please take a look at:
http://www.sulminas.com.br/somell/arthur/PM_unknown.txt
... and then email me the identifications privately. Thanks in
advance for any help!!!!!
-- Arthur Faria.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #174
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>4) Phantom Blot's nephews. I know of the Phantom Blot's=20
>daughter who appeared in a two-part story, but I have never
>heard of any nephews before. Are they supposedly twins? And
>are they *kids* or *adults*? Were they enemies of Mickey or
>Mickey's nephews?
If I'm not mistaken, PB's nephews are a Brazilian creation.
They're kids, they're *triplets* and they're enemies of MM's nephews
and friend of "evil" nephews, like Beagle Brats and Hazel Witch's.
I know only two stories:
(no code) - Art: Carlos Herrero - PB: A visita dos Manchinhas
(PD#1228, DE#58) - App: PB's nephews (1st?), MM, MF.
B 74413 - Art: Carlos Herrero - Beagle Brats: O Clube dos Peraltas
(TP#116, SD#26) - App: MDS' niece, HW's nephew, PB's nephews.
Francois, about Ermengarda:
>I don't know this characater (though she did appear in France as well).
>But do you know there is another brazilian girlfriend of Gyro (a robot).
>I haven't the two stories where she appeared here, unfortunately, so I
>can't give you any story-code (for the moment).
Brazilian Ermengarda is the same character who appeared in
WDC&S #310 "GY: The Real Cool Canoe". ... And that GY's robot
girlfriend appeared only in *one* story:
B 830175 - Art:Irineu Soares Rodrigues - LVD: Pardal, esta e' a sua vida"
(EE #160) - App: GY, EE, Helper, Brazilian artist (caricatured).
In this story, our good Ludwig Von Drake tells Gyro's (funny) life.
The robot girlfriend is just part of GY's old memories and never
appeared again.
Now, a request:
I have a list with exactly 54 Paul Murry stories which
I'm unable to identify. I'm sure they are in INDUCKS though.
If someone *really* enjoy identifying stories based
on brief summaries, please take a look at:
http://www.sulminas.com.br/somell/arthur/PM_unknown.txt
... and then email me the identifications privately. Thanks in
advance for any help!!!!!
-- Arthur Faria.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #174
******************************************
Xephyr
Various & Sundry replies
Message 34 -
1999-10-05 at 11:49:15
Anders Chr. Sivebaek & Arthur Faria, Jr.:
> > 3) Ermengarda, Gyro Gearloose's girlfriend. I know of a female
> > "Crane-like" birdwoman who appeared in WDC&S #310 in "Gyro=20
> > Gearloose: The Real Cool Canoe." Her name there was "Matilda",
> > and, it would appear that she made another appearance in Dell's
> > FC "Daisy Duck's Diary" #948.
> I searched for this in my books. I don't have the story,
> The story code is os 948-03 I think
>
> Yes, that's the one I have a scan of the splash-panel (I showed
> it to Ole, Soeren and Thomas at our meeting way back in easter-time)
> I try to remember the story, about the other saying things about
> Daisy, and yes, the Crane-like animal is there. [ACS]
> Brazilian Ermengarda is the same character who appeared in
> WDC&S #310 "GY: The Real Cool Canoe". ... [AFJ]
Do either of you know if Ermengarda/Matilda ever appear as Gyro's
girlfriend again? Or is this the only documented case?
Francois Willot:
> Sorry, I mistakenly said that Alfred is Brer Wolf's son (but
> then, who excatly is Brer Wolf, you might say). No, Alfred is
> a fox, actually the son of Brer Fox (the one who appeared in
> "Tales of uncle Remus").
Well...hmmmm. Maybe my theory still works on some level. Perhaps
the creators of these newer "Forest Kids" stories created Alfred
as a "Izzy-like" character and therefore Izzy was redundant, thus
dropped? The scans I received of Alfred have him wearing nearly
the exact same "Bowery Boy" (street ruffian) type clothing as Izzy,
which makes him *look* like Izzy. And based on your description
of him sometimes lying and doing *bad* stuff, this would fit as a
*softened* version of Izzy as well. Izzy, however, was much, much
worse... The son Zeke *wished* Li'l Wolf was! :-)
> I now see that the French translated the inspector's name in one
> of these story (I M 17-2) as "Eliot Kess" instead of "Elie
> Hotneige", which shows that the editors are sometimes unconsistent
> with the names of characters they created!
Sounds like Elliot Kess is a play on the name "Elliot Ness" who was
a famous American Special Agent who, during Prohibition, often
encountered and finally captured Al Capone. [as Rich Morrissey also
suggests].
Rich Morrissey:
> I'd always had the impression that these characters lived in
> the same forest several other Disney characters (including Mad
> Madam Mim and Chip 'n' Dale) did, not far from Duckburg (since
> they'd SOMETIMES meet the more urban characters; the Beagle Boys
> especially used to interact with Mim frequently). Did Mickey,
> Minnie, Goofy and that group live in Duckburg? I remember there
> was some talk about this a couple of years ago, and the consensus
> seemed to be that they were either in Duckburg or the next town
> (Homeville? Mouseton?) over.
Yes, I have many of these old stories printed in earlier issues of
WDC. As for whether Mickey & Donald live in the same town... well
that was indeed a can of worms openned a couple times as I recall.
Basically the answer depends on what country *YOU* live in. In
Brazil ALL the characters, even Jose Carioca (sometimes) live in
Duckburg, but later they placed Jose to his own town in Rio de Jinero
and left the main Disney Characters in America, all still living in
the same town of Duckburg.
> (Clara wouldn't work with the other prominent Disney rooster,
> Panchito of "The Three Caballeros," either...
You may be surprised to learn that Clara did indeed date Panchito!
He came to Duckburg for a visit, and Clara swooned over him. He
called her "Chiquita" and talks her into visiting his home town in
Mexico where she decides he's not the man for her, but she loves
Mexican food. This happened in a story simply titled "Panchito"
from WDC 38.
I agree that, at least here in the US, Gyro is of the Chicken
species, thus making Clara a more suitable match, and, I agree that
they wouldn't work out. Clara is seen in one old comic as having
a boyfriend who was indeed a rooster named Rockhead Rooster, but
that also didn't last. Poor Clara... Poor Gyro... Myabe they are
suited for eachother?
> it makes one wish Disney HAD gone ahead with the Chanticleer
> movie it once considered), so I suppose Ermengarda was inevitable.
> What did she look like? Did she ever appear in an American comic?
It seems that Ermengarda is the same as the American name Matilda,
since so far, that "Cool Canoe" story is the ONLY story she and
Gyro appear together in. I have her in one other story, where she
makes a cameo among Daisy's gossipy friends, but that's it.
Rodney W. Bowcock jr.:
> I know recently in the MM Dailies published
> on-line for my local newspaper (The San Jose Mercury News)
>
> What is the address for this paper's site, and are the new strips
> good? I heard that they were doing continuities again, but no one
> said anything else about it. Who is drawing the strip now? If
> the stuff looks good I may have to write my local paper!
You can't get there directly, but it's fairly simple. Just go to:
http://www.mercurycenter.com/
Then, select "Living & Comics" from the SECTIONS column on the far
Leftside of the screen. Follow the prompt to log-in and once done
select "Mickey Mouse" from about 50 different comic strips. After
the Mickey comic comes up BOOKMARK that page! When you log-in, make
sure you click the option that has it *remember* your password or
you will have to log-in each time you want to view the new comicstrip.
You can also go back nearly a year to see previous daily strips.
I think they are pretty good. The humor, at times is sort of bland,
but I like the adventure serials that run every now and then. They
recently had a Phantom Blot serial, and Pete's sister Petula was
introduced in another multi-part serial. Morty and his pal Alvin
are also regulars in the serial. I believe I've seen Ferdie too.
This is the ONLY source of Disney comics which regularly feature
Mickey, Goofy, Minnie and Pluto currently running in the USA (that
I know of).
Arthur Faria Jr.:
> If I'm not mistaken, PB's nephews are a Brazilian creation.
> They're kids, they're *triplets* and they're enemies of MM's nephews
> and friend of "evil" nephews, like Beagle Brats and Hazel Witch's.
>
> I know only two stories:
>
> (no code) - Art: Carlos Herrero - PB: A visita dos Manchinhas
> (PD#1228, DE#58) - App: PB's nephews (1st?), MM, MF.
>
> B 74413 - Art: Carlos Herrero - Beagle Brats: O Clube dos Peraltas
> (TP#116, SD#26) - App: MDS' niece, HW's nephew, PB's nephews.
I'm assuming they basically look like three kids under a black sheet
(like their uncle). If they are Brazilian, do they have a white
"mouth" or just "eyes" like the traditional PB? (I plan to add them
to my character files).
Thanks.
Rich Bellacera
> > 3) Ermengarda, Gyro Gearloose's girlfriend. I know of a female
> > "Crane-like" birdwoman who appeared in WDC&S #310 in "Gyro=20
> > Gearloose: The Real Cool Canoe." Her name there was "Matilda",
> > and, it would appear that she made another appearance in Dell's
> > FC "Daisy Duck's Diary" #948.
> I searched for this in my books. I don't have the story,
> The story code is os 948-03 I think
>
> Yes, that's the one I have a scan of the splash-panel (I showed
> it to Ole, Soeren and Thomas at our meeting way back in easter-time)
> I try to remember the story, about the other saying things about
> Daisy, and yes, the Crane-like animal is there. [ACS]
> Brazilian Ermengarda is the same character who appeared in
> WDC&S #310 "GY: The Real Cool Canoe". ... [AFJ]
Do either of you know if Ermengarda/Matilda ever appear as Gyro's
girlfriend again? Or is this the only documented case?
Francois Willot:
> Sorry, I mistakenly said that Alfred is Brer Wolf's son (but
> then, who excatly is Brer Wolf, you might say). No, Alfred is
> a fox, actually the son of Brer Fox (the one who appeared in
> "Tales of uncle Remus").
Well...hmmmm. Maybe my theory still works on some level. Perhaps
the creators of these newer "Forest Kids" stories created Alfred
as a "Izzy-like" character and therefore Izzy was redundant, thus
dropped? The scans I received of Alfred have him wearing nearly
the exact same "Bowery Boy" (street ruffian) type clothing as Izzy,
which makes him *look* like Izzy. And based on your description
of him sometimes lying and doing *bad* stuff, this would fit as a
*softened* version of Izzy as well. Izzy, however, was much, much
worse... The son Zeke *wished* Li'l Wolf was! :-)
> I now see that the French translated the inspector's name in one
> of these story (I M 17-2) as "Eliot Kess" instead of "Elie
> Hotneige", which shows that the editors are sometimes unconsistent
> with the names of characters they created!
Sounds like Elliot Kess is a play on the name "Elliot Ness" who was
a famous American Special Agent who, during Prohibition, often
encountered and finally captured Al Capone. [as Rich Morrissey also
suggests].
Rich Morrissey:
> I'd always had the impression that these characters lived in
> the same forest several other Disney characters (including Mad
> Madam Mim and Chip 'n' Dale) did, not far from Duckburg (since
> they'd SOMETIMES meet the more urban characters; the Beagle Boys
> especially used to interact with Mim frequently). Did Mickey,
> Minnie, Goofy and that group live in Duckburg? I remember there
> was some talk about this a couple of years ago, and the consensus
> seemed to be that they were either in Duckburg or the next town
> (Homeville? Mouseton?) over.
Yes, I have many of these old stories printed in earlier issues of
WDC. As for whether Mickey & Donald live in the same town... well
that was indeed a can of worms openned a couple times as I recall.
Basically the answer depends on what country *YOU* live in. In
Brazil ALL the characters, even Jose Carioca (sometimes) live in
Duckburg, but later they placed Jose to his own town in Rio de Jinero
and left the main Disney Characters in America, all still living in
the same town of Duckburg.
> (Clara wouldn't work with the other prominent Disney rooster,
> Panchito of "The Three Caballeros," either...
You may be surprised to learn that Clara did indeed date Panchito!
He came to Duckburg for a visit, and Clara swooned over him. He
called her "Chiquita" and talks her into visiting his home town in
Mexico where she decides he's not the man for her, but she loves
Mexican food. This happened in a story simply titled "Panchito"
from WDC 38.
I agree that, at least here in the US, Gyro is of the Chicken
species, thus making Clara a more suitable match, and, I agree that
they wouldn't work out. Clara is seen in one old comic as having
a boyfriend who was indeed a rooster named Rockhead Rooster, but
that also didn't last. Poor Clara... Poor Gyro... Myabe they are
suited for eachother?
> it makes one wish Disney HAD gone ahead with the Chanticleer
> movie it once considered), so I suppose Ermengarda was inevitable.
> What did she look like? Did she ever appear in an American comic?
It seems that Ermengarda is the same as the American name Matilda,
since so far, that "Cool Canoe" story is the ONLY story she and
Gyro appear together in. I have her in one other story, where she
makes a cameo among Daisy's gossipy friends, but that's it.
Rodney W. Bowcock jr.:
> I know recently in the MM Dailies published
> on-line for my local newspaper (The San Jose Mercury News)
>
> What is the address for this paper's site, and are the new strips
> good? I heard that they were doing continuities again, but no one
> said anything else about it. Who is drawing the strip now? If
> the stuff looks good I may have to write my local paper!
You can't get there directly, but it's fairly simple. Just go to:
http://www.mercurycenter.com/
Then, select "Living & Comics" from the SECTIONS column on the far
Leftside of the screen. Follow the prompt to log-in and once done
select "Mickey Mouse" from about 50 different comic strips. After
the Mickey comic comes up BOOKMARK that page! When you log-in, make
sure you click the option that has it *remember* your password or
you will have to log-in each time you want to view the new comicstrip.
You can also go back nearly a year to see previous daily strips.
I think they are pretty good. The humor, at times is sort of bland,
but I like the adventure serials that run every now and then. They
recently had a Phantom Blot serial, and Pete's sister Petula was
introduced in another multi-part serial. Morty and his pal Alvin
are also regulars in the serial. I believe I've seen Ferdie too.
This is the ONLY source of Disney comics which regularly feature
Mickey, Goofy, Minnie and Pluto currently running in the USA (that
I know of).
Arthur Faria Jr.:
> If I'm not mistaken, PB's nephews are a Brazilian creation.
> They're kids, they're *triplets* and they're enemies of MM's nephews
> and friend of "evil" nephews, like Beagle Brats and Hazel Witch's.
>
> I know only two stories:
>
> (no code) - Art: Carlos Herrero - PB: A visita dos Manchinhas
> (PD#1228, DE#58) - App: PB's nephews (1st?), MM, MF.
>
> B 74413 - Art: Carlos Herrero - Beagle Brats: O Clube dos Peraltas
> (TP#116, SD#26) - App: MDS' niece, HW's nephew, PB's nephews.
I'm assuming they basically look like three kids under a black sheet
(like their uncle). If they are Brazilian, do they have a white
"mouth" or just "eyes" like the traditional PB? (I plan to add them
to my character files).
Thanks.
Rich Bellacera
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Disney comics Digest V99 #173
Message 35 -
1999-10-05 at 12:23:15
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Hey Rich!
Regarding Li'l Wolf story "The Girl Friend" (reprinted in WDC 611),
>I wonder
>if this story printed in the US is the same Meana as the Meana in France,
>and if this is how she debuted in France as well?
Yep.
>I'm also curious about the temperment of Alfred and Junior? Are these
>boys *nice* or *mean*? Since they are the sons of two characters who
>had a tradition of being mean in the Uncle Remus stories and early
>Disney comics.
Junior's a good kid. I don't know enough about Alfred, but anyway, I
don't think he's particularly *bad*, so to speak.
By the way, I think Brer Bear isn't that mean. He's got a bad temper
and is extremely dumb, but he also has a heart of gold. Oh, you're going to
tell me he wants to eat Brer Rabbit? Well, as originally conceived, Brer
Bear simply wanted to *get even* with Brer Rabbit for taking shameless
advantage of him all the time. Brer Rabbit was the one guy in the forest
whom Brer Bear didn't like.
From this, some writers have come up with stories where Brer Bear is
the terror of the woods and wants to eat anyone who's soft and cuddly, but I
don't call that canon.
You know, let's look at Brer Fox too for just a moment here. You
know, Brer Fox *is* genuinely a bad guy, but even he isn't exactly what I'd
call evil all the time. It's more like these forest characters treat "eating
someone" as a kind of getting even, thinking no more about the consequences
than that. "Brer Rabbit is my friend," snaps Brer Fox upon hearing (1946
Sunday page) that a will-of-the-wisp might be trying to capture and eat Brer
Rabbit. He goes off to rescue him; "Brer Rabbit is my friend - and ain't
nobody goin' to eat him except *me*!"
Yes, Brer Fox is obviously a psychopath. But we can deal with that
later :-)
>Also, along the lines of *age*, I guess I still consider the 3 Little
>Pigs as "kids" (barring any evidence otherwise).
Practical is at least a bit older than Fiddler and Fifer. In the
early stories, it's said that while they still need to go to school, he
doesn't, although they changed that very early on (so that Practical would
often be seen at school with his brothers).
>Also, I began thinking
>about Br'er Rabbit & Molly Cottontail? I've rarely, if ever seen them
>in a Li'l Wolf story, but it is my impression that Br'er Rabbit (and
>Molly) are a lot younger than Br'er Bear and Br'er Fox. What does
>everyone else think about the ages of the pigs and the rabbits? It
>could just be that they are younger than the Bear & Fox, but not as
>young as Li'l Wolf?
I'd peg it like this:
I think Li'l Wolf, Fiddler and Fifer are around 12 years old
(although originally, Li'l Wolf was a bit younger - I think an early story
said so).
Brer Groundhog (Brer Rabbit's pal) is also around 12.
Practical Pig, Brer Rabbit and Molly are around 16. This would allow
them to drive cars, as has been seen.
Brer Fox is in his early twenties (can't be *too* much older than
the rabbits, because in the early stories, he wanted to romance Molly rather
than eat her, and would even fight with Brer Rabbit for her affections! Good
grief...)
Brer Bear is in his thirties (has some fairly young cubs).
Brer Terrapin, while a good friend of Brer Rabbit, is nonetheless
pushing 65 (cane, retired serviceman's cap)! If a story ever shows him at
school with the others, I think the author would have flipped!
David Gerstein
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<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
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(reprinted in WDC 611),</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>I wonder </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>if this story printed in the US =
is the same Meana as the Meana in France,</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>and if this is how she debuted in =
France as well?</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Yep.</FONT>
</P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>I'm also curious about the =
temperment of Alfred and Junior? Are these </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>boys *nice* or *mean*? =
Since they are the sons of two characters who</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>had a tradition of being mean in =
the Uncle Remus stories and early</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Disney comics.</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Junior's a good kid. I don't know enough about Alfred, =
but anyway, I don't think he's particularly *bad*, so to =
speak.</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">By the way, I think Brer Bear isn't that mean. He's got =
a bad temper and is extremely dumb, but he also has a heart of gold. =
Oh, you're going to tell me he wants to eat Brer Rabbit? Well, as =
originally conceived, Brer Bear simply wanted to *get even* with Brer =
Rabbit for taking shameless advantage of him all the time. Brer Rabbit =
was the one guy in the forest whom Brer Bear didn't like.</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">From this, some writers have come up with stories where =
Brer Bear is the terror of the woods and wants to eat anyone who's soft =
and cuddly, but I don't call that canon.</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">You know, let's look at Brer Fox too for just a moment =
here. You know, Brer Fox *is* genuinely a bad guy, but even he isn't =
exactly what I'd call evil all the time. It's more like these forest =
characters treat "eating someone" as a kind of getting even, =
thinking no more about the consequences than that. "Brer Rabbit is =
my friend," snaps Brer Fox upon hearing (1946 Sunday page) that a =
will-of-the-wisp might be trying to capture and eat Brer Rabbit. He =
goes off to rescue him; "Brer Rabbit is my friend - and ain't =
nobody goin' to eat him except *me*!"</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Yes, Brer Fox is obviously a psychopath. But we can deal =
with that later :-)</FONT>
</P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Also, along the lines of *age*, I =
guess I still consider the 3 Little</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Pigs as "kids" (barring =
any evidence otherwise).</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Practical is at least a bit older than Fiddler and =
Fifer. In the early stories, it's said that while they still need to go =
to school, he doesn't, although they changed that very early on (so =
that Practical would often be seen at school with his =
brothers).</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Also, I began thinking</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>about Br'er Rabbit & Molly =
Cottontail? I've rarely, if ever seen them</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>in a Li'l Wolf story, but it is =
my impression that Br'er Rabbit (and</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Molly) are a lot younger than =
Br'er Bear and Br'er Fox. What does </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>everyone else think about the =
ages of the pigs and the rabbits? It </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>could just be that they are =
younger than the Bear & Fox, but not as</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>young as Li'l Wolf? </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">I'd peg it like this:</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">I think Li'l Wolf, Fiddler and Fifer are around 12 years =
old (although originally, Li'l Wolf was a bit younger - I think an =
early story said so).</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Brer Groundhog (Brer Rabbit's pal) is also around =
12.</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Practical Pig, Brer Rabbit and Molly are around 16. This =
would allow them to drive cars, as has been seen.</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Brer Fox is in his early twenties (can't be *too* much =
older than the rabbits, because in the early stories, he wanted to =
romance Molly rather than eat her, and would even fight with Brer =
Rabbit for her affections! Good grief...)</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Brer Bear is in his thirties (has some fairly young =
cubs).</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Brer Terrapin, while a good friend of Brer Rabbit, is =
nonetheless pushing 65 (cane, retired serviceman's cap)! If a story =
ever shows him at school with the others, I think the author would have =
flipped!</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">David Gerstein</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial"><(Email removed)></FONT>
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Hey Rich!
Regarding Li'l Wolf story "The Girl Friend" (reprinted in WDC 611),
>I wonder
>if this story printed in the US is the same Meana as the Meana in France,
>and if this is how she debuted in France as well?
Yep.
>I'm also curious about the temperment of Alfred and Junior? Are these
>boys *nice* or *mean*? Since they are the sons of two characters who
>had a tradition of being mean in the Uncle Remus stories and early
>Disney comics.
Junior's a good kid. I don't know enough about Alfred, but anyway, I
don't think he's particularly *bad*, so to speak.
By the way, I think Brer Bear isn't that mean. He's got a bad temper
and is extremely dumb, but he also has a heart of gold. Oh, you're going to
tell me he wants to eat Brer Rabbit? Well, as originally conceived, Brer
Bear simply wanted to *get even* with Brer Rabbit for taking shameless
advantage of him all the time. Brer Rabbit was the one guy in the forest
whom Brer Bear didn't like.
From this, some writers have come up with stories where Brer Bear is
the terror of the woods and wants to eat anyone who's soft and cuddly, but I
don't call that canon.
You know, let's look at Brer Fox too for just a moment here. You
know, Brer Fox *is* genuinely a bad guy, but even he isn't exactly what I'd
call evil all the time. It's more like these forest characters treat "eating
someone" as a kind of getting even, thinking no more about the consequences
than that. "Brer Rabbit is my friend," snaps Brer Fox upon hearing (1946
Sunday page) that a will-of-the-wisp might be trying to capture and eat Brer
Rabbit. He goes off to rescue him; "Brer Rabbit is my friend - and ain't
nobody goin' to eat him except *me*!"
Yes, Brer Fox is obviously a psychopath. But we can deal with that
later :-)
>Also, along the lines of *age*, I guess I still consider the 3 Little
>Pigs as "kids" (barring any evidence otherwise).
Practical is at least a bit older than Fiddler and Fifer. In the
early stories, it's said that while they still need to go to school, he
doesn't, although they changed that very early on (so that Practical would
often be seen at school with his brothers).
>Also, I began thinking
>about Br'er Rabbit & Molly Cottontail? I've rarely, if ever seen them
>in a Li'l Wolf story, but it is my impression that Br'er Rabbit (and
>Molly) are a lot younger than Br'er Bear and Br'er Fox. What does
>everyone else think about the ages of the pigs and the rabbits? It
>could just be that they are younger than the Bear & Fox, but not as
>young as Li'l Wolf?
I'd peg it like this:
I think Li'l Wolf, Fiddler and Fifer are around 12 years old
(although originally, Li'l Wolf was a bit younger - I think an early story
said so).
Brer Groundhog (Brer Rabbit's pal) is also around 12.
Practical Pig, Brer Rabbit and Molly are around 16. This would allow
them to drive cars, as has been seen.
Brer Fox is in his early twenties (can't be *too* much older than
the rabbits, because in the early stories, he wanted to romance Molly rather
than eat her, and would even fight with Brer Rabbit for her affections! Good
grief...)
Brer Bear is in his thirties (has some fairly young cubs).
Brer Terrapin, while a good friend of Brer Rabbit, is nonetheless
pushing 65 (cane, retired serviceman's cap)! If a story ever shows him at
school with the others, I think the author would have flipped!
David Gerstein
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<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Regarding Li'l Wolf story "The Girl Friend" =
(reprinted in WDC 611),</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>I wonder </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>if this story printed in the US =
is the same Meana as the Meana in France,</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>and if this is how she debuted in =
France as well?</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Yep.</FONT>
</P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>I'm also curious about the =
temperment of Alfred and Junior? Are these </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>boys *nice* or *mean*? =
Since they are the sons of two characters who</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>had a tradition of being mean in =
the Uncle Remus stories and early</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Disney comics.</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Junior's a good kid. I don't know enough about Alfred, =
but anyway, I don't think he's particularly *bad*, so to =
speak.</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">By the way, I think Brer Bear isn't that mean. He's got =
a bad temper and is extremely dumb, but he also has a heart of gold. =
Oh, you're going to tell me he wants to eat Brer Rabbit? Well, as =
originally conceived, Brer Bear simply wanted to *get even* with Brer =
Rabbit for taking shameless advantage of him all the time. Brer Rabbit =
was the one guy in the forest whom Brer Bear didn't like.</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">From this, some writers have come up with stories where =
Brer Bear is the terror of the woods and wants to eat anyone who's soft =
and cuddly, but I don't call that canon.</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">You know, let's look at Brer Fox too for just a moment =
here. You know, Brer Fox *is* genuinely a bad guy, but even he isn't =
exactly what I'd call evil all the time. It's more like these forest =
characters treat "eating someone" as a kind of getting even, =
thinking no more about the consequences than that. "Brer Rabbit is =
my friend," snaps Brer Fox upon hearing (1946 Sunday page) that a =
will-of-the-wisp might be trying to capture and eat Brer Rabbit. He =
goes off to rescue him; "Brer Rabbit is my friend - and ain't =
nobody goin' to eat him except *me*!"</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Yes, Brer Fox is obviously a psychopath. But we can deal =
with that later :-)</FONT>
</P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Also, along the lines of *age*, I =
guess I still consider the 3 Little</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Pigs as "kids" (barring =
any evidence otherwise).</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Practical is at least a bit older than Fiddler and =
Fifer. In the early stories, it's said that while they still need to go =
to school, he doesn't, although they changed that very early on (so =
that Practical would often be seen at school with his =
brothers).</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Also, I began thinking</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>about Br'er Rabbit & Molly =
Cottontail? I've rarely, if ever seen them</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>in a Li'l Wolf story, but it is =
my impression that Br'er Rabbit (and</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>Molly) are a lot younger than =
Br'er Bear and Br'er Fox. What does </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>everyone else think about the =
ages of the pigs and the rabbits? It </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>could just be that they are =
younger than the Bear & Fox, but not as</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">>young as Li'l Wolf? </FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">I'd peg it like this:</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">I think Li'l Wolf, Fiddler and Fifer are around 12 years =
old (although originally, Li'l Wolf was a bit younger - I think an =
early story said so).</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Brer Groundhog (Brer Rabbit's pal) is also around =
12.</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Practical Pig, Brer Rabbit and Molly are around 16. This =
would allow them to drive cars, as has been seen.</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Brer Fox is in his early twenties (can't be *too* much =
older than the rabbits, because in the early stories, he wanted to =
romance Molly rather than eat her, and would even fight with Brer =
Rabbit for her affections! Good grief...)</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Brer Bear is in his thirties (has some fairly young =
cubs).</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Brer Terrapin, while a good friend of Brer Rabbit, is =
nonetheless pushing 65 (cane, retired serviceman's cap)! If a story =
ever shows him at school with the others, I think the author would have =
flipped!</FONT></P>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">David Gerstein</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial"><(Email removed)></FONT>
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Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Sv174 Harry, Francois, Georgios
Message 36 -
1999-10-05 at 15:01:41
HARRY
> > HA[A]RRY,
Sorry, If I spelled your name like that. I didn't intend to.
> Mykonos.
> Will you be visiting that island?
No, I don't think so. As I know you visitted Kriton, I thought the shop was
in Athens...
I guess I'll have so much to do downthere, that I forget about that
store...
Greek spelling
> 8-)
> Maybe they spell things just as correctly as you do?
LOL.
> (No offence, Anders. I'm just trying to be funny.)
I know, that i don't spell right sometimes, but it must be typos.
Not that they aren't as bad.
After all what the greeks (in this case editors) do, are spell the names
with the letters they have. The misunderstandment Kriton told me about,
in private, about them writing Barks Libray, might be because we sometimes
say it like that. same case with friends fresh...
If you look in a book about greektransscripsion (greek letters translated
to
roman letters), you'll see the names of the disney-charecters sometimes
aren't
translated, just made into sounding like the english one. Ntonant Ntak, is
Donald
Dak, and you have to admit that's how we sometimes pronounce it...
Skrojts Mak dak forever!
FRANCOIS
You're excused. It's easy to mistake Br'er Fox with bad Wolf. They have the
same origin after all... Come to think of it, they have both appeared in
Grandma
Duck stories.
GEORGIOS
> Current price of #1? Who knows!!
Isn't it listed, or do you mean it gets higher and higher as I write this?
> > HA[A]RRY,
Sorry, If I spelled your name like that. I didn't intend to.
> Mykonos.
> Will you be visiting that island?
No, I don't think so. As I know you visitted Kriton, I thought the shop was
in Athens...
I guess I'll have so much to do downthere, that I forget about that
store...
Greek spelling
> 8-)
> Maybe they spell things just as correctly as you do?
LOL.
> (No offence, Anders. I'm just trying to be funny.)
I know, that i don't spell right sometimes, but it must be typos.
Not that they aren't as bad.
After all what the greeks (in this case editors) do, are spell the names
with the letters they have. The misunderstandment Kriton told me about,
in private, about them writing Barks Libray, might be because we sometimes
say it like that. same case with friends fresh...
If you look in a book about greektransscripsion (greek letters translated
to
roman letters), you'll see the names of the disney-charecters sometimes
aren't
translated, just made into sounding like the english one. Ntonant Ntak, is
Donald
Dak, and you have to admit that's how we sometimes pronounce it...
Skrojts Mak dak forever!
FRANCOIS
You're excused. It's easy to mistake Br'er Fox with bad Wolf. They have the
same origin after all... Come to think of it, they have both appeared in
Grandma
Duck stories.
GEORGIOS
> Current price of #1? Who knows!!
Isn't it listed, or do you mean it gets higher and higher as I write this?
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
KOMIX--and more
Message 37 -
1999-10-05 at 15:31:12
ANDERS:
>I wonder if they learned to spell it correctly... weren't they
>the ones who wrote David Gernstein?
No, no, that was not KOMIX, but Disney Italia in a "ZIO PAPERONE" issue.
They even wrote a correction later on apologizing to David for misspelling
his name.
GIORGOS:
>As you maybe noticed I didn't take *your* column for the new KOMIX, I just
>made a few remarks.
Ah, I was only kidding, of course. Anyway, another Greek will have to take
over the "duty" of presenting KOMIX's contents pretty soon (come January)
anyway. More details, as events develop...
>They are wrong very often concerning either the attribution of the credits
>to the artists either to many other contributors.
>I have the impression that the guys in the editorial team are a little bit
>careless.
I think it's a combination of being both "careless" and not very well
informed. They are definately careless they they misquote creators whose
names they can read in other publications they're using. However, they are
also not very well informed; I remember when I visited their offices ~3
years ago, and I had to give them my own Rosa story index so they can find
out about his output. For a long time their main well of stories and
articles was good, ol' Gladstone, but now that it has gone under, I guess
they have to be more improvising. Of course, they can still draw lots of
stuff from Gladstone.
>As for the prices of the back issues, I think they have all after the 60th
>(not older) and start from about $6 (4 times more than the face value).
>Current price of #1? Who knows!!
I have known for a mint copy of KOMIX #1 to sell for as much as 20,000
drachmas, or $65. (I had been neither the buyer nor the seller--not even the
in-betweener in that transcation!) I don't know whether that price is
"crazy", "absurd", or whatever. On that front I disagree with my friends
Armando and Don, as I can't get my self to judge *willing* buyers and
sellers. I know, of course, that there's great speculation in the comics
market, but if it weren't for more that "half-cover prices", many of us
wouldn't be able to find desirable copies--or be given the "incentive" to
unbury forgotten ones. What I find uncalled for is the *intentional*
withdrawal from the market of a comics supply with the intention of getting
artificially high prices by fixing supply. That's speculation, and by fixing
and controlling supply, it seeks to derive monopoly rents from buyers at
very high (non-competitive) prices. However, I find the other position of
back issues at no more than half-cover price pretty extreme as well, since
historical costs are surely not the only (and by comparison less
significant) factors in determining current prices.
Cheers,
Archontis
>I wonder if they learned to spell it correctly... weren't they
>the ones who wrote David Gernstein?
No, no, that was not KOMIX, but Disney Italia in a "ZIO PAPERONE" issue.
They even wrote a correction later on apologizing to David for misspelling
his name.
GIORGOS:
>As you maybe noticed I didn't take *your* column for the new KOMIX, I just
>made a few remarks.
Ah, I was only kidding, of course. Anyway, another Greek will have to take
over the "duty" of presenting KOMIX's contents pretty soon (come January)
anyway. More details, as events develop...
>They are wrong very often concerning either the attribution of the credits
>to the artists either to many other contributors.
>I have the impression that the guys in the editorial team are a little bit
>careless.
I think it's a combination of being both "careless" and not very well
informed. They are definately careless they they misquote creators whose
names they can read in other publications they're using. However, they are
also not very well informed; I remember when I visited their offices ~3
years ago, and I had to give them my own Rosa story index so they can find
out about his output. For a long time their main well of stories and
articles was good, ol' Gladstone, but now that it has gone under, I guess
they have to be more improvising. Of course, they can still draw lots of
stuff from Gladstone.
>As for the prices of the back issues, I think they have all after the 60th
>(not older) and start from about $6 (4 times more than the face value).
>Current price of #1? Who knows!!
I have known for a mint copy of KOMIX #1 to sell for as much as 20,000
drachmas, or $65. (I had been neither the buyer nor the seller--not even the
in-betweener in that transcation!) I don't know whether that price is
"crazy", "absurd", or whatever. On that front I disagree with my friends
Armando and Don, as I can't get my self to judge *willing* buyers and
sellers. I know, of course, that there's great speculation in the comics
market, but if it weren't for more that "half-cover prices", many of us
wouldn't be able to find desirable copies--or be given the "incentive" to
unbury forgotten ones. What I find uncalled for is the *intentional*
withdrawal from the market of a comics supply with the intention of getting
artificially high prices by fixing supply. That's speculation, and by fixing
and controlling supply, it seeks to derive monopoly rents from buyers at
very high (non-competitive) prices. However, I find the other position of
back issues at no more than half-cover price pretty extreme as well, since
historical costs are surely not the only (and by comparison less
significant) factors in determining current prices.
Cheers,
Archontis
ASHARI69
Disney comics Digest V99 #174
Message 38 -
1999-10-05 at 15:58:12
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SRoweCanoe
Disney comics Digest V99 #174
Message 39 -
1999-10-05 at 16:14:16
<<That's part of the reason I suggest that their age is so obscured,
since driving is a odd thing for a kid, but, since they do care
for themselves, perhaps it is a necessity?>>
When I was a kid, the age to get a restricted driver's liscence was 13/
It's now 16 - but there is an exemption for those kids who drive farm
tractors on the road (on the way to the farm).
Steven Rowe
since driving is a odd thing for a kid, but, since they do care
for themselves, perhaps it is a necessity?>>
When I was a kid, the age to get a restricted driver's liscence was 13/
It's now 16 - but there is an exemption for those kids who drive farm
tractors on the road (on the way to the farm).
Steven Rowe
Joakim Gunnarsson
Nephew #4 mystery explained!
Message 40 -
1999-10-05 at 19:04:00
> From: "Dr. Archontis Pantsios" < [...]
> 6) "The Mysterious Phooey Duck", a 2-page editorial on the 4th nephew.
KOMIX
> mentions as sources for the article Per's site and "The Carl Barks
Library".
Did they mention that Egmont has produced a new story that *explains* all
about the fourth nephew?
I saw the story in print at the Egmont office last week so I think it will
soon be out on the newsstands.
/Joakim Gunnarsson,
Malmo, Sweden.
> 6) "The Mysterious Phooey Duck", a 2-page editorial on the 4th nephew.
KOMIX
> mentions as sources for the article Per's site and "The Carl Barks
Library".
Did they mention that Egmont has produced a new story that *explains* all
about the fourth nephew?
I saw the story in print at the Egmont office last week so I think it will
soon be out on the newsstands.
/Joakim Gunnarsson,
Malmo, Sweden.
Michael Rhode
Ub Iwerks
Message 41 -
1999-10-05 at 22:10:33
This should be of interest:
Tuesday October 5 1:12 AM ET
Disney hails Iwerks with documentary
By Charles Lyons
HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Seventy-one years after the birth of Mickey Mouse, the
Walt Disney Co. is bowing a feature documentary on a man who animated the
character, Ub Iwerks.
Written, directed and produced by his granddaughter Leslie Iwerks, ``The
Hand Behind the Mouse -- The Ub Iwerks Story'' will premiere Friday at
Hollywood's El
Capitan Theater, where it will run through Oct. 14.
Narrated by Kelsey Grammer, the documentary includes never-before-seen
archival footage, photographs, previously censored cartoon clips and
interviews from the
early 1900s.
Dutch-born Iwerks, a technical genius who won two Academy Awards, completely
animated the first Mickey Mouse short ``Plane Crazy'' in 1928. In 1930, he
formed his own cartoon company, Celebrity Pictures, but rejoined Disney 10
years later. He died in July 1971, aged 71, at which time he was director of
technical
research for Disney Prods.
Reuters/Variety
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Tuesday October 5 1:12 AM ET
Disney hails Iwerks with documentary
By Charles Lyons
HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Seventy-one years after the birth of Mickey Mouse, the
Walt Disney Co. is bowing a feature documentary on a man who animated the
character, Ub Iwerks.
Written, directed and produced by his granddaughter Leslie Iwerks, ``The
Hand Behind the Mouse -- The Ub Iwerks Story'' will premiere Friday at
Hollywood's El
Capitan Theater, where it will run through Oct. 14.
Narrated by Kelsey Grammer, the documentary includes never-before-seen
archival footage, photographs, previously censored cartoon clips and
interviews from the
early 1900s.
Dutch-born Iwerks, a technical genius who won two Academy Awards, completely
animated the first Mickey Mouse short ``Plane Crazy'' in 1928. In 1930, he
formed his own cartoon company, Celebrity Pictures, but rejoined Disney 10
years later. He died in July 1971, aged 71, at which time he was director of
technical
research for Disney Prods.
Reuters/Variety
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Ola Martinsson
Crossovers to the Wolf community
Message 42 -
1999-10-06 at 00:03:52
Hi,
Someone asked if the forest habitants, Li'l Wolf et al, ever met the
other Disney characters, well they have sometimes.
I don't know story codes or such things but I'll try to summarize the
stories I can think of
1. Li'l Wolf uses a magic hat that Brer Bear confused with the Bad Wolfs
hat at the post-office. Mickey is beeing chased by a bull and borrows
the hat and use it to tie the bull to a branch on a tree high up in the
air. Here he makes a remark as having been a sorcerers apprentice,
Fantasia must be the clue here. From the US 1950:ies.
2. Donald rents the Three Little Pigs house and is beeing chased by the
Bad Wolf who wants to eat him. The Wolf disguises as a giant turtle but
Donald lays him on his back and cooks him in a big pot. The turtle
disguise comes loose and the Bad Wolf flies up the chimney and high into
the air. From the US 1950:ies.
3. Brer Bear is hunting with a rifle and Chip'n Dale (I think) together
with the Seven Dwarfs hides all the animals in the forest and fools Brer
Bear that the old whitch (from Snowwhite) has taken them all. Art by
Bradbury US 1950/60:ies.
4. Li'l Wolf thinks that the mud in front of their house is a beauty mud
and throws it at everyone to make them beautiful, including Goofy.
Of course he is wrong. US 1950:ies
Can't think of any more for the moment. Hope you can use it.
Ola Martinsson in Stockholm, Venice of the North, in Sweden
Someone asked if the forest habitants, Li'l Wolf et al, ever met the
other Disney characters, well they have sometimes.
I don't know story codes or such things but I'll try to summarize the
stories I can think of
1. Li'l Wolf uses a magic hat that Brer Bear confused with the Bad Wolfs
hat at the post-office. Mickey is beeing chased by a bull and borrows
the hat and use it to tie the bull to a branch on a tree high up in the
air. Here he makes a remark as having been a sorcerers apprentice,
Fantasia must be the clue here. From the US 1950:ies.
2. Donald rents the Three Little Pigs house and is beeing chased by the
Bad Wolf who wants to eat him. The Wolf disguises as a giant turtle but
Donald lays him on his back and cooks him in a big pot. The turtle
disguise comes loose and the Bad Wolf flies up the chimney and high into
the air. From the US 1950:ies.
3. Brer Bear is hunting with a rifle and Chip'n Dale (I think) together
with the Seven Dwarfs hides all the animals in the forest and fools Brer
Bear that the old whitch (from Snowwhite) has taken them all. Art by
Bradbury US 1950/60:ies.
4. Li'l Wolf thinks that the mud in front of their house is a beauty mud
and throws it at everyone to make them beautiful, including Goofy.
Of course he is wrong. US 1950:ies
Can't think of any more for the moment. Hope you can use it.
Ola Martinsson in Stockholm, Venice of the North, in Sweden
Georgios Balanikas
174 Harry, Francois, Georgios
Message 43 -
1999-10-06 at 00:16:34
>> Current price of #1? Who knows!!
>Isn't it listed, or do you mean it gets higher and higher as I write this?
Archontis answered already that question, I really had no idea. I have heard
that before not so long time someone bought the first 15 issues around 8000
dr each( ~$26) and he considered that as a bargain. My collection was
shaped by buying every issue from the newsstands since the #1. Currently I
am a subscriber ,mostly to get the special issues they have each year as a
bonus (only for the subscribers).
You can find some issues from #30 to #45 as a stock in some newsstands in
Thessaloniki (although their supplies are becoming short) a little higher
than the cover price.
The price which a collector pays for something depends on how much he wants
to acquire this particular item.
Georgios Balanikas
>
>
>
>Isn't it listed, or do you mean it gets higher and higher as I write this?
Archontis answered already that question, I really had no idea. I have heard
that before not so long time someone bought the first 15 issues around 8000
dr each( ~$26) and he considered that as a bargain. My collection was
shaped by buying every issue from the newsstands since the #1. Currently I
am a subscriber ,mostly to get the special issues they have each year as a
bonus (only for the subscribers).
You can find some issues from #30 to #45 as a stock in some newsstands in
Thessaloniki (although their supplies are becoming short) a little higher
than the cover price.
The price which a collector pays for something depends on how much he wants
to acquire this particular item.
Georgios Balanikas
>
>
>
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
My two bits about the Lil Bad Wolf saga......
Message 44 -
1999-10-06 at 02:46:41
For the record, The first Lil Bad Wolf story wasn't the one in WDC&S
Comics Digest 1. That was the first one with the pigs, (it's also in
WDC&S 604) but the actual first Lil Bad Wolf story was reprinted in WDC&S
549, the second in WDC&S 550 and *then* the one that was spoken of before
in WDC&S 604. Not that it matters, but still.........
Rodney Bowcock
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Comics Digest 1. That was the first one with the pigs, (it's also in
WDC&S 604) but the actual first Lil Bad Wolf story was reprinted in WDC&S
549, the second in WDC&S 550 and *then* the one that was spoken of before
in WDC&S 604. Not that it matters, but still.........
Rodney Bowcock
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Eta Beta
Gyro's robotic girlfriend
Message 45 -
1999-10-06 at 03:43:35
ARTHUR, RICH
>And that GY's robot
>girlfriend appeared only in *one* story:
>
>B 830175 - Art:Irineu Soares Rodrigues - LVD: Pardal, esta e' a sua vida"
>(EE #160) - App: GY, EE, Helper, Brazilian artist (caricatured).
There's actually another one, don't know if it's the same character,
though, since it's a later story...
B 850070 A Guerreira Estelar
art: Irineu Soares Rodrigues
published in Italy as "Archimede e l'amazzone delle stelle" in
Topolino 1580, Paperino 173 and twice in Paper Fantasy (it seems...)
Brazilian publication listed are in "Mickey" 400 and "Almanaque do
prof. Pardal" 14
Cheers
Eta Beta
>And that GY's robot
>girlfriend appeared only in *one* story:
>
>B 830175 - Art:Irineu Soares Rodrigues - LVD: Pardal, esta e' a sua vida"
>(EE #160) - App: GY, EE, Helper, Brazilian artist (caricatured).
There's actually another one, don't know if it's the same character,
though, since it's a later story...
B 850070 A Guerreira Estelar
art: Irineu Soares Rodrigues
published in Italy as "Archimede e l'amazzone delle stelle" in
Topolino 1580, Paperino 173 and twice in Paper Fantasy (it seems...)
Brazilian publication listed are in "Mickey" 400 and "Almanaque do
prof. Pardal" 14
Cheers
Eta Beta