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Halsten Aastebol
At 15:17 17.05.00 +0300, Kari Lepola wrote:
>All of this isn't exactly about Disney comics (although
>I do get there at some point :) so you might want to
>skip.
>
>Don asked about the baseball playing ghost and the print
>quality of "The Coin".
>
>...But baseball or rather pesapallo, which is a very similar
>game, is played a lot in Finland. It was developed by
>Lauri Pihkala in the beginning of 1920's. It's based
>mainly on baseball and some old finnish ball-hitting
>games. The biggest difference to normal baseball is that
>the ball is pitched vertically instead of horizontally and the pitcher
>stands next to the hitter. A special
>association was founded in 1925 and they have been
>playing for the finnish championship since 1922.
>The game is on a professional level.

A similar game, "slaaball", is popular with kids in Norway to. But only as
a schoolyard and street activity. Nothing is organized like in Finland. But
I guess this sort of game is common throughout Europe.

Halsten
Don Rosa
> From: Kari Lepola
> Don asked about the baseball playing ghost

And no one has come up with an explanation yet. Everyone was as puzzled as
I was by the scene? Why wasn't the editor puzzled? It must mean
*something* -- there must be *some* explanation. They wouldn't put such a
bizarre scene on a cover without a reason. Would they?

>The biggest difference to normal baseball is that
> the ball is pitched vertically instead of horizontally and the pitcher
> stands next to the hitter.

Y'know, that sounds like an accident waiting to happen. Somebody is gonna
get their eye put out, mark my words.

> About "The Coin", I checked and, yes it is a bit pixelated,
> The odd thing is that they used unsual coloring for the
> story. U$'s and Gladstone's footwear is white, U$'s hat
> black and white instead of black and blue, the money bin tan, Gyro's
> little helper red, Beagle boy's hats white,
> shirts orange, pants greenish.
> At last they have succeeded and made the coins in the bin silver with
> some copper ones also, but curiously paper
> money is also silver???.

AKU ANKKA used the excellent coloring done by the French... but that means
they had to use ALL the coloring, including the elements that are usually
colored differently in the French comics. Also, the French know that I want
the Money Bin coins to be silver and copper so they color them that way for
my stories, and they even put a "$" on the Bin rather than a "f" which is
nice of them. The AKU ANKKA staff has the computer know-how to go in and
change a few things in France's computer-coloring.... in fact, they do
super coloring themselves, as seen on the covers I've done for them. I
guess I could have suggested colors that should be changed in the French
version, but I did not do so. The Finns, nice as they are, probably
wouldn't mind if I suggested a few small changes -- f'rinstance, in France
they often color the Beagle Boys as if they are wearing white gloves like
they stumbled out of a Mickey Mouse comic... and that looks odd in my
stories since I often draw fingernails and hair on the backs of the BB's
hands... and nailed, hairy gloves look really creepy.
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Don Rosa

The reason for the ghost of the cover of the weekly (issue 11 in DK)
may be that the issue contained an extra/surprise (one of these silly
things for the kiddies!) that was some pens to make invisible writing.
There's also an editorial about secret messages
and other invisiple advice.
I understand why you're confused... It does a lot like Casper, the
friendly ghost, and I wonder what license he's under!

> Another question: they tell me that "The Coin" has been published in
> Finland, but the publisher says that the printer used the wrong scan
> line-density so that the art looks all pixelated. Anyone notice that?
Does
> it look too bad?
I heard from one of my finnish friends that it's seeable. EGA-printing,
he called it, and it sounds like that page in the german Rosa-al?bum
where they used something like a fax of that extra page you did for the
american version of the Incredible Shrinking Tightwad.

> Meanwhile, I think "Attaaaaack!" was just printed in PICSOU.
It is, I'm looking very much forward to read it.

> And I sent "The Three Caballeros Ride Again" in about a month anna
> half ago, so it should be appearing about 6 months from now (though
that's
> just a guess -- I have no connection with the scheduling).
A guess would be november or around new year. In 1998 they published
Cutty sark just before new year, so it might happen again.
It's just such a long time to wait, but then I'll read the Attaack
story in the meantime.
Vidar Svendsen
I've updated my pages on religion in Duckburg. Geir Netland has
answered some of the questions I asked some time ago, but I still
have a few unanswered questions. I would be grateful if any of you
could help me out.

* Does anybdy have JW 23 "Hark, Hark the Ark"? (scans or summary
wanted)
* OS 1073-0 ("The Snow Chaser"): What does Louie(?) say on page 5,
panel 7?
* US 28 ("The Witching Stick"): What does Donald say on page 5, panel
8?
* US 54-01 ("The Billion Dollar Safari"): What does Scrooge say on
page 1, panel 3?
* US 63-02 ("House of Haunts"): What does Donald say on page 13, panel
1 and page 14, panel 3
* WDC 146-01 ("Omelet"): What does the woman say on page 5, panel 7?
* JW 10-02 ("Bottled Battlers"): What does Magica say on page 12,
panel 2 and on page 5, panel 5?

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"Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
with the possible exception of bad news,
which obeys its own special laws."
YMH
Hello all,
I have a problem, and I'm wondering if someone out there can help me with
it.
I am a not a comic book collector. When I read comics, it's for the art
and the story, but I'm not the type that then puts them away in plastic
sleeves so I can sell them for a lot of money 40 years later. I'm the kind of
person that wishes they had comics at my local public library so that I could
read them and then return them.
Anyway, I'd really love to read Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck. But I
can't pay the $4 back issue price. Does anyone have any ideas for me?
(If you do, any chance they apply to the Carl Barks library or other Rosa
stories as well? :-) )

Thank you very much,
Yossi Horowitz
Ridout
> From: Pietro Reynaud-Bersanino
> >>>In 1930 sailor suit was a usual suit for young boys ... and DD was a
> young
> boy.
>
> What? Rich kids wore sailor shirts back around 1905, not 1934. Donald wore
> that outfit because they were creating a DUCK character, so like many
other
> duck characters before and after Donald, he was dressed like a sailor
> because ducks travel around in water. The cartoon also showed him living
on
> a boat and dancing a sailor hornpipe. He was wearing the sailor-suit
> because he was a sailor-duck (if only for that ONE time).

In the 50th aniversery book which came out for Donald's birthday in 1984,
there is a quote from Walt Disney that they put donald in a sailor suit
because sailor suits "were quite typical for young boys to wear in the
thirties" and that they had wanted Donald to seem as immature as possible
since he and Peter Pig were prepresenting the "just desserts" aspect of 'The
Wise Little Hen'. (woops, now there's a run on sentence...)

In that same book, there's a section on Clarence Nash. It said that Clarence
came to Walt with a whole bunch of animal immiations. Donald's voice had
initially been his immitation of a baby goat but when Walt heard it he was
like, "I found my duck!" (cause I think they were already working on 'The
Wise Little Hen' at that time...or something like that....)

Anyway....I'm only catching up on about a weeks worth of digests now, so I
guess I'm jumping in kind of late... Right now there's every single one of
the out of print Carl Barks Library sets for sale on ebay. I thought I'd
mention it because I know the later ones are very difficult to find, and I
think I recall that someone had part of their collection stolen a while ago
or something, and didn't think they'd be able to replace certain volumes...

rebecca
Paolo Castagno
Hello,

Few days ago we were talking about stories in Esperanto, the one
published in Topolino (I TL 1938-C) can be found on

http://members.xoom.it/_XOOM/inducks/extras.htm

or

http://members.xoom.it/_XOOM/inducks/extras_i.htm

if you prefer the Italian version.

Ciao,

- Paolo

p.s.: Lazio won the Italian football championship!! HURRA'!!!!

--
http://members.xoom.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it

Balabu'! (Zio Paperone in I TL 243-A)
Botto Armando
Vidar:
>> US 54-01 ("The Billion Dollar Safari"): What does Scrooge say on page 1,
panel 3?
Nephew: "How long since you bought any new ones, Unca Scrooge ?"
Scrooge: "Let's see! That was when Noah had his end-of-the-flood sale !"

I'm afraid that's all the help I can provide...

Ciao,
Armando
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Kari Lepola

> About "The Coin", I checked and, yes it is a bit pixelated, but so
> little that you have to look really
> closely.
Glad to hear this.

> In fact I hadn't noticed anything when I first
> read it, eventhough I read it several times. It is really
> great, I especially love the unique viewing angles.
I totally agree having read it in french, and being responsible
for that calendar I made for duckhunt around christmas.
BTW I am not planning to tell the unpublished-stories-administrator,
Sigvald to take the story away, as it has only been published in France
and Finland.
If we eventually see it in other countries as Germany Italy and the
egmont-.countries, It has no reason to be online anymore.

I know that AA is known to be a very nice magazine, with nice
Rosa-covers from time to time. Nevertheless the coloring is not a
special new one , of this Coin-story. They seem to have receioved the
coloured version from France whwere they colour the charecters spats
(feet-things) and clothes, and helpers the way you state. France also
coloured the greenbacks silver in that story, which is a little goof.
I'm surprised that AA didn't recolor the story into the normal
scandinavian colours, which would be normal to do.

Janne Heino
Why was Janne's mesaage seen again, it's the same one from the 4th of
may.
It really is too bad that the list came out on a weekly basis for some
time this month... if it hadn't maybe we would have heard of the
finnish coin before, and not now when it's way out of the stands
again...

AC
Vidar Svendsen
Botto Armando wrote:
> Scrooge: "Let's see! That was when Noah had his end-of-the-flood sale
> I'm afraid that's all the help I can provide...

That's one down and six to go. Thank you

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Vidar Svendsen http://members.home.com/vsvendsen/

"Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
with the possible exception of bad news,
which obeys its own special laws."
Kari Lepola
Yossi Horowitz

> I'm the kind of person that wishes they had comics at >my local public library so that I could read them and >then return them. Anyway, I'd really love to read Life >and Times of Scrooge McDuck. But I can't pay the $4 back >issue price. Does anyone have any ideas for me?

We are talking about USA, right? I am not sure if this
will apply there, but do they have have those comics
in some other public library? If so, you might be able
to get them temporally to your library as a some sort
of "a long distance lend". Some other DCML reader who
has got the american issues could probably give the
needed information to specify which numbers of which
magazine you want etc. If all else fails, is there
(USA?) such a library which collects one copy of practically everything
for researchers to use?
As of how much this costs or even if it is possible,
I obviously don't have a clue. At least in Finland
"long distance lend" is rather cheap and finding a
library which has comics is easy.

Kari.Lepola at hut.fi
Monte-Cristo
Rebecca wrote:

> In the 50th aniversery book which came out for Donald's birthday in 1984,
> there is a quote from Walt Disney that they put donald in a sailor suit
> because sailor suits "were quite typical for young boys to wear in the
> thirties" and that they had wanted Donald to seem as immature as possible
> since he and Peter Pig were prepresenting the "just desserts" aspect of 'The
> Wise Little Hen'. (woops, now there's a run on sentence...)
>
> In that same book, there's a section on Clarence Nash. It said that Clarence
> came to Walt with a whole bunch of animal immiations. Donald's voice had
> initially been his immitation of a baby goat but when Walt heard it he was
> like, "I found my duck!" (cause I think they were already working on 'The
> Wise Little Hen' at that time...or something like that....)

Here's some more on the subject: I've read (from several sources) Walt was
listening to radio where he heard Nash doing his duck imitation. It was a little
girl duck reading the song "Mary had a little lamb" (incindetally [?] I remember
a short cartoon with Mickey (Orphan's Benefit, methinks) where Donald is trying
to recite exactly the same rhyme). Walt got the idea for a duck character from
that and invited Nash to the studios.
The book "The Disney Studio Story" (Holliss & Sibley, 1988) tells nothing more
than this: "His (Donald's) unique voice was supplied by Clarence Nash, who had
auditioned at the Studio while working for a milk company." That seems to support
Rebecca's story.

Now, back to lurking mode...

|--<Monte>--|
Eta Beta
VIDAR

>> Scrooge: "Let's see! That was when Noah had his end-of-the-flood sale
>> I'm afraid that's all the help I can provide...
>
>That's one down and six to go. Thank you

What could be best, with such an awful weather as we're having
right now, than rummaging in one's comics collection ? :-)

Here's some more:

>* US 28 ("The Witching Stick"): What does Donald say on page 5, panel
>8?

"I'll believe in ANY KIND of witching - even to old ladies
riding around on brooms!"

>* US 63-02 ("House of Haunts"): What does Donald say on page 13, panel
>1 and page 14, panel 3

13, 1: "Oh, my stars! This means that by now Uncle Scrooge's money
cache is a disaster area!"

14, 3: "I-I--- What DID those Beagle Boys DO to you?"

(BTW, don't those page and panel quotes look rather biblical,
themselves ?... :-)

>* WDC 146-01 ("Omelet"): What does the woman say on page 5, panel 7?

"Is it a plague of locusts?"

Cheers

Eta Beta
Vidar Svendsen
I'd like to thank those gentle souls that answered my questions
and send me scans of "Hark the Ark." I'll put your names on the
introduction-page. Thank you.
I'll let you know when I've
uploaded the final(?) version of my pages.

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Vidar Svendsen http://members.home.com/vsvendsen/

"Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
with the possible exception of bad news,
which obeys its own special laws."
YMH
In a message dated 5/21/00 6:00:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcml-admin at stp.ling.uu.se writes:

> > I'm the kind of person that wishes they had comics at >my local public
> library so that I could read them and >then return them. Anyway, I'd really
> love to read Life >and Times of Scrooge McDuck. But I can't pay the $4 back
>
> issue price. Does anyone have any ideas for me?
>
> We are talking about USA, right? I am not sure if this
> will apply there, but do they have have those comics
> in some other public library? If so, you might be able
> to get them temporally to your library as a some sort
> of "a long distance lend". Some other DCML reader who
> has got the american issues could probably give the
> needed information to specify which numbers of which
> magazine you want etc. If all else fails, is there
> (USA?) such a library which collects one copy of practically everything
> for researchers to use?
> As of how much this costs or even if it is possible,
> I obviously don't have a clue. At least in Finland
> "long distance lend" is rather cheap and finding a
> library which has comics is easy.

Hmm... I suppose I could do it through interlibrary lone via my university,
but not for the original comics; I've never seen any library ever that lends
out things like that. But I seem to recall seeing a picture of a hardcover
collection of all of the issues somewhere on the web. Does anyone know if
that book actually exists, and if so, what is its official title and ISBN
number?

Thank you,
Yossi Horowitz
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