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Dr. Archontis Pantsios
Fellow Quackeroos:

Your Greek e-kiosk is once again at your service!

1) MIKY MAOUS #1825, July 6, 2001
a) "Alla ricerca della pietra zodiacale: per qualche scellino di piu", (Part
3), from "Topolino" #1782, 1990 (30 pages). Script: Bruno Sarda; Art:
Massimo De Vita
2) "Brigitta Star Della Diretta", from "Topolino" #2193, 1997 (25 pages).
Script: Paola Mulazzi; Art: Ottavio Panaro
3) Clarabell Cow in "A Ride in the Country" (9 pages). Story code and
creators unknown.
4) "Oggi lavoro io: Paperino falegname", from "Topolino" #2251, 1999 (6
pages). Script: Carlo Panaro; Art: Michele Mazzon

2) MEGALO MIKY #407, July 2001
a) "Alice in Wonderland", comic-book adaptation of the 1951 Disney cartoon
classic, A.W.O.S. #331 (33 pages). Script: Del Connel; Art: Riley Thomson
b) Uncle Scrooge in "L' impronta di Zampalunga", S-75153, from AT #236,
1976 (18 pages). Script: Carl Fallberg; Art: Giovan Battista Carpi.
c) Goofy in "The Trouble-maker", S-84006 (11 pages). Creators unknown.
d) Fethry Duck in "Lost in the Desert", S-72056 (8 pages). Script: the
Disney Studio; Art: Tony Stobl.

Your Greek e-kiosk will be on hiatus for a few weeks--it's time to find a
beach and enjoy the summer!

Cheers,

Archontis

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Anders Christian Sivebaek
Hi friends
As told I've recently been in Holland.
I don't want to talk much about transportatation cause it's more cheap
than fast to go to Holland by route-bus...

Well, I arrived in Groningen at 9 saturday morning. Because of the
ducth train-system Duco didn't arrive at the main station before some
minutes later. Then we went to the store were Duco works. And to the
market, and back again to open the store. It's a nice comic-store named
after a dutch comic charecter Ambrosius. I browsed around all the
comics for some time, finding this and that album, magazine and pocket
book that I would like.
I found some thick Duck-books and some weeklies, and got the preview of
the coming publications form VNU and such.

Customers came and went, and they all talked dutch about comics. At 1
pm the owner of the store arrived. He was a nice and friendly person,
and talkative all 3 times we visitted the store.

After some talking Duco and I went to buy some things to eat in the
week. After fetching the stuff we took the train to Duco's part of
time. and went to Duco's house.

I know Duco was very happy about the things that made my bags heavy.
Scarpa, an old Milton comic, quite a stack of norwegian Rosas and the
newest danish Rosas.

I'm starting to realise I should have made a diary (in the notebook
that I lost?) or written this earlier, cause I can'?t part days from
eachother.
Every day was nice, reading comics, talking to eachother, going out to
eat a pizza (twice) and such.

Before more writing of comic stores I do remember what happened Sunday.
- I've known Harry Fluks via email and this list since 1998, but untill
that sunday I hadn't meat him.
But then, the bell rang and I did. We had a nice evening talking,
changing comics and looking at the interesting thing Duco has. Allready
at this time, my bags started to gain weight again, cause Harry had
brought with him the new holiday-book (with a nice story about Donald a
a peanut-seller and Scrooge losing his money), a stack of german
doubles - many of those with Rosa, some ducth doubles and two
Advance-things that first didn't attract my interest.
Later when I found out they had a parted Rosa-interview from the
beginning of the 90'es I got really interested. And later when I read
the interview, I exclaimed: That's the best interview with Don that I
read (becuase of certain things stated there).
Harry brought his camera, and so did I, so we had some fun taking
photoes of the 2/3 of us in interesting places. On Harry's photo-page
you can, so far, see the photoes Harry took (on pic. 3 my camera is
shown). I really had some problems with the zoom! The green
"too-close-indicator" seemed to blink all the time. In a couple of days
I'll get my photoes back from the developer and scan them - Harry will
show some on the same page.

The talking went on, about certain Barks-stories, ducth reprints,
editors, indexes and such. Unfortunately Harry is allergic (to cats,
and Duco has 2/3 of them) so he had to leave, even though he thought
the cats were nice.
I have allergy too, but luckily not towards cats, and these ones I
really liked. My grass-allergy was hard on me some of the days.

One of the following days we went on the big round of comic-shops where
I found many things.
Holliday-books with Rosa-stories, weeklies with Milton-stories and
backcovers (from 1991).
In the store where those weeklies lied around, many in dreadfull state,
Duco claims he was in life danger because of boxes moving above
head-hight! Yikes... Luckily he got out alive and healthy, and brought
me a stack of DD Extras with Rosa-stories.
Duco also found some Scarpa in german pocket-books for himself here
(some looked like the ones I once found for Ole:-)
In the store were Duco works I found some more Milton backcovers, and
later Duco saw to it that my DD 1991 is complete. I hope it's easy to
replace those comics you took out, Duco!

Now, let me thank Duco for his great company, make him say hello to the
cats from me, and also thank him for unlimeted access to his huge
collection of comics that he likes. (Barks Library, complete
Rosa-collection and many many other things).
Thanks for coping with my company:-)

Thanks also to Harry for meeting me there, and for making sure my bags
were just as heavy when I went home as when I got there.

And thanks to A'dam Police for advicing me to stay at Shiphol (A'dam
Airport) for the night, as the trains didn't fit for the morning - I
had a good night there.

Your travelling Mac (reference to Muppet's Fraggles - whereever that
came from)
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Francois Willot
Fernando Ventura sent me a realistic version of Pedrao, Z? Carioca's friend
by the designer Renato Munhoz. I'll upload more Brazilian rarities in the
future. Thank you, Fernando.
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/div/des.uk.php

Francois
Eero-Pekka Halinen
I wonder if any of you have read the story wich was in the newest Aku Ankka
magazine here in Finland (from some other comic-magazine, I mean). It was a
manga-version of Barks's
-Something Fishy Here- (?). Usually I find manga as a great type of comic,
but, in my humble opinion, it didn't work in a duck comic. It goes on too
slowly and the panels are in strange places (for occidental people, at
least).

I think that it was a nice "how would it work" kinda thing, but it wouldn't
work in Japan (with the ducks) and neither in here. What do YOU think?

respects, Eero-Pekka

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Olivier
Hello Eero Pekka-- and everyone!

>>It was a manga-version of Barks's -Something Fishy Here- (?).

I have seen mangas but can't imagine what this may look like.
Could you scan a page or explain how it looks like, please?

Best summer wishes,

Olivier
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Eero-Pekka Halinen
> I wonder if any of you have read the story wich was in the newest Aku
Ankka
> magazine here in Finland (from some other comic-magazine, I mean). It
was a
> manga-version of Barks's
> -Something Fishy Here- (?). Usually I find manga as a great type of
comic,
> but, in my humble opinion, it didn't work in a duck comic. It goes on
too
> slowly and the panels are in strange places (for occidental people,
at
> least).
I've not seen the exact issue or the story, but I've seen 4 or 5 other
manga-style disney comics in japenese and german.

> I think that it was a nice "how would it work" kinda thing, but it
wouldn't
> work in Japan (with the ducks) and neither in here. What do YOU
think?
I do think ti works for the japanese. I don't know if the magazine
still published
overthere, but I have no. 7 from 1999. It's in b/w cause colors are for
kids overthere.

The german comic was an adaption of Barks' Rainmaker story, and I
mentioned it
here some long time ago. Editor of the german weekly, Mr Stahl told us
that the
readers like the stories. And that's good enough for me - as long as
noone forces
*me* to read them. But now, I guess it's a question of time before we
see the stuff here,
and the kids will like it, as they like the monthly paperinik-magazine
(?)

AC
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Links to rare/original/unpublished Barks items. I don't have any
connection with the sellers or the sites. If you've seen other
rare/original/unpublished items, I hope you'll post them to the list
as well. Information is taken from the sellers' descriptions, unless
otherwise noted. ("DvE")

Items at Ebay (http://www.ebay.com):

- - - - - - -

Carl Barks Original Cover Art, Uncle Scrooge
Item # 1168849061
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1168849061

Carl Barks: original pre-drawing for cover of Uncle scrooge No. 70,
"The Doom Diamod), from 1966. This original drawing is in blue and
black pencil. It is 18,5 x 26cm on larger size paper and signed by
Carl Barks. The drawing comes together with the comic book.

[Contains link to "http://www.originalart-and-prints.de/", where more
original Barks art can be seen/bought. "Seite 2" contains a larger
picture of the above "Doom Diamond" cover pencil. "Seite 5" contains
an alternate pencil version. There are also cover pencils for DD 126
("Officer For A Day", the design that was used at that time) and WDC 289
(Bolderbast shooting an arrow through Donald's pancake). Because of
the site's structure, I cannot link to the material on the site. DvE.]

- - - - - - -

DISNEY CEL signed CARL BARKS
Item # 1168206820
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1168206820

This is a hand-painted production cel of Donalds Nephews from the
1960's. It has been personally signed by Carl Barks.

- - - - - - -

CARL BARKS DISNEY UNCLE SCROOGE DRAWING
Item # 1168205088
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1168205088

This is a hand-drawn pencil sketch done and signed by the Duck master,
Carl Barks. It's done on vellum, Scrooge is 4 in. tall.
This was purchased from the Carl Barks Gallery.

- - - - - - -

CARL BARKS DISNEY DONALD DUCK DRAWING
Item # 1168202837
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1168202837

This is a hand-drawn pencil sketch done and signed by the Duck master,
Carl Barks. It's done on vellum, Donald is over 5 in. tall.
This was purchased from the Carl Barks Gallery.

- - - - - - -

UNCLE SCROOGE CARL BARKS 50TH WATCH
Item # 1169319583
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1169319583

THE IMAGE FOR THIS WATCH IS FROM THE FIRST APPEARANCE OF SCROOGE
MCDUCK IN 1947...THIS WATCH WAS ONLY AVAILABLE AT THE UNCLE SCROOGE
50TH BIRTHDAY EVENT HELD AT WALT DISNEY WORLD IN 1997. THE REVERSE OF
THE WATCH SAYS " HAPPY 50TH BIRTHDAY UNCLE SCROOGE." IT HAS AN ETCHED
CARL BARKS SIGNATURE.LIMITED EDITION DISNEY. 250 OF THESE WATCHES WERE
MADE AND DISTRIBUTED AT THIS EVENT.

- - - - - - -

- Daniel
Eero-Pekka Halinen
>Could you scan a page or explain how it looks like, please?

I can't scan it, because the only scanner I own is an old black/white hand
scanner, wich is furthermore broken. And I have no access to any other
scanners in summer. Sorry.

But, I'll try to explain it as good as I can. If you've seen manga, you
should about know how it looks like: Only a couple of panels in a page (with
some expections), a little amount of text and quite distinct pictures (Don
Rosa could never draw manga!). It goes on slowly, so there are more pages in
this than the original. I don't know how to describe it... the panels are
all over the page, not in a strict order (their shapes are sometimes weird
too). This is all I can tell you about it. You would have to see it
yourself.

Eero-Pekka

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Petri Kanninen
EERO-PEKKA & OLIVIER
>>It was a manga-version of Barks's -Something Fishy Here- (?).
>I have seen mangas but can't imagine what this may look like.
>Could you scan a page or explain how it looks like, please?

I scanned few pages at
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/manga1.jpg
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/manga2.jpg
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/manga3.jpg

I think the style is OK. You don't see much creative use of panels in
Disney comics. There are some great ideas like the widening panels when US
collects more and more fishes (manga1.jpg) or the panel with clock that
says "two hours later" (manga3.jpg) when you usually get a small box in
the corner of the panel. The story goes on pretty slowly (one page is used
to show how US is shocked by the news of fish replacing money) but it
doesn't bother me a lot. Hope we see more of these in the future.

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Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/

"I went on a diet, swore off drinking and heavy eating,
and in fourteen days I lost two weeks." -Joe E. Lewis
Stefan Persson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Petri Kanninen" <pkannine at cc.hut.fi>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 22 juli 2001 16:07
Subject: Manga Ducks

> EERO-PEKKA & OLIVIER
> >>It was a manga-version of Barks's -Something Fishy Here- (?).
> >I have seen mangas but can't imagine what this may look like.
> >Could you scan a page or explain how it looks like, please?

> I think the style is OK. You don't see much creative use of panels in
> Disney comics. There are some great ideas like the widening panels when US
> collects more and more fishes (manga1.jpg) or the panel with clock that
> says "two hours later" (manga3.jpg) when you usually get a small box in
> the corner of the panel. The story goes on pretty slowly (one page is used
> to show how US is shocked by the news of fish replacing money) but it
> doesn't bother me a lot. Hope we see more of these in the future.

Does anyone know where I might find those stories in Japanese? I don't
understand a word of the Finnish ;)

Stefan
Olivier
Hello!

Erro-Pekka:
>> I can't scan it [...] Sorry.
No problem.

Well, waddaya know?
What do I see in the next message?...

Petri Kanninen:
Thanks a lot for the scans!

The first page (finding the newspaper) is weird: first, IMO, there
are to many wordless panels; then, oddly enough, the dialogue
looks weird. I think it's a matter of striking the exact balance,
just like the extreme facial expressions we discussed a while ago
regarding an Italian artist whose name I can't remember:
wordless panels & extreme poses should be used sparsely.
As regards the former, though, I think it works better when there
really is not dialogue at all, as in the first widenning panels
and several of Taliaferro's strips.

I like the widening panels too, though there's too much blank
int he background; maybe they could put a heap of fish or
something; it looks unfinished.
The clock panel is too large: there ought to be some background.
(As Uncle Scrooge might say: "Think of all the costly space lost
and of the even costlier red ink used!" ; )

Finally, why this remake? Is it the first story of that kind? Has he
done others, and are they remakes as well?
And in this case, cutting out the dialogue and turning the original
strip into an almost speechless one kind of looks like dumbing it
down and stripping it off of the "useless", "difficult" dialogues
to appeal to children who can't read well, which is rather frightening.

Also sounds like appropriating another artist's work. Not that I think
that's what he maliciously intended (stealing Barks' work and getting
the credit for another one's good ideas); but what's the point of
re-drawing it? This kind of experiment could have been made with
an original story.

Best things,

Olivier
warmer in Paris, now
(27 they say)
Fernando Ventura
...it's a D-coded story, I think, published without code in 1990 here in
Brazil, on Margarida #113..., 12 pages, 4 tiers. The heroes are Donald and
Gladstone. Huey, Dewey and Louie appear too. I'm not sure about the
drawer...Torres maybe, I don't think it's Vicar...unfortunately I'm not with
my scanner!

I'm indexing some missing issues on Arthur Faria's collection, so it's
possible I ask about some others stories on the future! :)

On this story, Donald and Gladstone rent the same chalet on the hills
without knowing that and divide literally the chalet in half. Both of them
rent the things inside their half of the chalet to each other, till Donald
puts a ratchet on the division the set in the middle of the chalet. Then
Donald blows the pipes at Gladstone's side and doesn't have a quarter to go
back to his side and leave the chalet, since he used the phone at
Gladstone's side to call the plumbers. In the end the chalet is filled up
with water and both of them get arrested, and the police guys divide the
cell in half.
Very funny story on my oppinion! Specially this thing of putting a ratchet
on the midlle of the house! :) Ah, special thanks to my friend Andr?, that
helped me to translate the story's description to english!

Fernando!(soemone with serious translation problems...yet!)
Francesco Spreafico
From: "Fernando Ventura" <fernandopventura at uol.com.br>

> On this story, Donald and Gladstone rent the same chalet on the hills
> without knowing that and divide literally the chalet in half.

Lemme guess ;-)
"At? que a sorte os separe"? (in Brasil already published in PD 1730)

D 5864 12 BBo Divided We Stand [hero:DD,GL] [xapp:DD,GL,HDL] [desc:a house
divided]

--
Francesco
HorizonHse
In a message dated 7/22/01 3:08:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:

<< http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1168202837 >>

Hi,

Both the sketches mentioned in the last digest were done for the colored
pencil drawings Carl did for his 96th birthday party at Walt Disney World. I
believe both drawings are reproduced in Carl Barks Treasury, also done for
the party.

The wrist watch signed by Carl with a full figure Scrooge on the dial was
Carl's gift to the dinner guests. Probably less than 300 were made, to be
sure each guest received one.

The wrist watch with the heads of Scrooge, Donald and the nephews was
available for one day only at the watch store in the Disney-MGM Studios park
on the day after the birthday party when Carl appeared in a parade honoring
him and put his hand prints and signature in a block of cement in front of
the Chinese Theater there. He also appeared at the animation gallery to meet
fans and sign different items. According to the manager of the watch store,
fewer than 30 of the watches were manufactured.

An interesting feature of the preliminary drawing for the Doom Diamond cover
is that the cover is marked "Walt Disney Productions" and drawing is stamped
"Walt Disney Company," which wasn't used until the early 1980s. Any ideas
about this? Was the drawing not done until after 1982 or simply not stamped
with the copywrite information until it was sold, presumably in the 90s?

There also are drawings by Don Rosa, William Van Horn and Patrick Block on
ebay from time to time. Recently, there were two really unusual Rosa drawings
on plastic comic book inventory dividers. At the moment, there are two first
day covers signed and with drawings by Rosa, for anyone who's interested.

Regards,

William Price
236 West Portal #450
San Francisco
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