Hello,
<<Can anyone here tell me where I can find recent Disney
comics?>>
I am interested in the answer to this question, but also am in wonder of where and how I could possibly get a hold of foreign Disney comics (foreign to me that is since I live in the US) that are in English. I believe that the UK and Australia have some English publications and have heard that there may be some in Asia.
Does anyone have any information about this?
thanks,
-john from Oklahoma where it is a perspirating 102 F (appx. 39 C)
Author
Topic: 200107
(186 messages)
John Crocker
Disney comics in the US
Message 136 -
2001-07-25 at 22:33:46
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #616 - 7 msgs
Message 137 -
2001-07-26 at 14:08:33
PER:
> [ This message was much delayed because of technical problems and my
> vacation. Sorry! /Per ]
Just curious: I can understand why the long interview required your
approval, in case it was spam or a copy of a digest, but why was my
posting of the contents of the July issue of Komix delayed as well? Did
it have something to do with it being posted at the same time as the
longer posting?
FRANCESCO:
> ROTFL! This is really funny :-)
I thought so, too, and I don't even know who Doctor Doom is!
(Re: Komix' publishing the "Space Circus")
> That's Dark Horse stuff... I don't understand it either.
I have a nasty suspicion that this is only meant as a trick to keep the
price of the magazine high until the end of the year, as the series will
be published until November, and the December issue will probably be a
more expensive Christmas special. When they convert to the euro next
year, the price can then be higher than the long-forgotten price that
Komix used to have until July, which few people will remember so that
they can complain. :(
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Sometimes everybody needs a little bit of pointless and inexplicable magic in
their lives."
-----
> [ This message was much delayed because of technical problems and my
> vacation. Sorry! /Per ]
Just curious: I can understand why the long interview required your
approval, in case it was spam or a copy of a digest, but why was my
posting of the contents of the July issue of Komix delayed as well? Did
it have something to do with it being posted at the same time as the
longer posting?
FRANCESCO:
> ROTFL! This is really funny :-)
I thought so, too, and I don't even know who Doctor Doom is!
(Re: Komix' publishing the "Space Circus")
> That's Dark Horse stuff... I don't understand it either.
I have a nasty suspicion that this is only meant as a trick to keep the
price of the magazine high until the end of the year, as the series will
be published until November, and the December issue will probably be a
more expensive Christmas special. When they convert to the euro next
year, the price can then be higher than the long-forgotten price that
Komix used to have until July, which few people will remember so that
they can complain. :(
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Sometimes everybody needs a little bit of pointless and inexplicable magic in
their lives."
-----
Vic Pratt
Disney comics in the UK
Message 138 -
2001-07-26 at 16:10:25
Hello everybody
With regard to John Crocker's enquiry about Disney
comics in the UK...if it were only true...but there is
nothing available here; except, I believe, a couple of
glossy magazines which contain virtually no comics at
all.
With regard to the recent strand about the high
standard of US comic paper...my Gladstones have all
gone brown already, the paper was so cheap...but I
would gladly have them printed on waste paper rather
than not have any at all...
Pip pip, chaps
Vic
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With regard to John Crocker's enquiry about Disney
comics in the UK...if it were only true...but there is
nothing available here; except, I believe, a couple of
glossy magazines which contain virtually no comics at
all.
With regard to the recent strand about the high
standard of US comic paper...my Gladstones have all
gone brown already, the paper was so cheap...but I
would gladly have them printed on waste paper rather
than not have any at all...
Pip pip, chaps
Vic
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Disney Comics - long periode prices
Message 139 -
2001-07-26 at 17:08:32
Because of the reasons such as inflation
the value of money alternates. However
there are ways to visualize how currences
of different times corresponds by each
other. By using different kind of
correlation tables of currencies it is
easy to calculate things such as: "If
Uncle Scrooge had a dollar in year 1900,
how much that dollar would be in today's
money?"
This is cheap fun, tables can be found
from pocket calenders or from the internet.
Now (back to the Disney comics) the list
there below views:
1) the cover prices of the Finnish Disney
comic weekly Aku Ankka 1951-2001.
2) the same cover price transformed into
today's currency.
All prices are in Finnish marks. Prices
are from the first basic/standard issue
of every year (Issues having expensive
supplements are not counted)
E.g. In 1951 the 1st issue costed 50
marks and that would correspond 7.75
(FIM) in today's money. (some 1.30 euros)
Finnish weekly Aku Ankka 1951-2001:
year: the cover price = in today's currency
1951: 50.00 mk = 7.75 mk (monthly)
1952: 50.00 mk = 7.45 mk
1953: 50.00 mk = 7.30 mk
1954: 50.00 mk = 7.30 mk
1955: 50.00 mk = 7.50 mk
1956: 50.00 mk = 6.75 mk ("bi-weekly")
1957: 50.00 mk = 6.05 mk
1958: 60.00 mk = 6.84 mk
1959: 60.00 mk = 6.72 mk
1960: 60.00 mk = 6.54 mk
1961: 60.00 mk = 6.36 mk (weekly)
1962: 60.00 mk = 6.12 mk
1963: 0.60 mk = 5.84 mk (zeroes removed)
1964: 0.70 mk = 6.18 mk
1965: 0.70 mk = 5.90 mk
1966: 0.70 mk = 5.68 mk
1967: 0.70 mk = 5.38 mk
1968: 0.80 mk = 5.66 mk
1969: 0.80 mk = 5.53 mk
1970: 0.80 mk = 5.38 mk
1971: 0.80 mk = 5.06 mk
1972: 0.80 mk = 4.73 mk
1973: 0.80 mk = 4.22 mk
1974: 0.80 mk = 3.61 mk
1975: 1.00 mk = 3.83 mk
1976: 1.50 mk = 5.01 mk
1977: 1.50 mk = 4.46 mk
1978: 1.80 mk = 4.97 mk
1979: 2.10 mk = 5.40 mk
1980: 2.40 mk = 5.52 mk
1981: 2.60 mk = 5.36 mk
1982: 3.10 mk = 5.83 mk
1983: 3.50 mk = 6.06 mk
1984: 3.90 mk = 6.32 mk
1985: 4.40 mk = 6.73 mk
1986: 4.80 mk = 7.10 mk
1987: 5.10 mk = 7.29 mk
1988: 5.40 mk = 7.34 mk
1989: 5.70 mk = 7.24 mk
1990: 6.00 mk = 7.20 mk
1991: 6.40 mk = 7.36 mk
1992: 6.70 mk = 7.57 mk
1993: 6.90 mk = 7.59 mk
1994: 7.50 mk = 8.18 mk
1995: 7.90 mk = 8.53 mk
1996: 8.50 mk = 9.10 mk (pages 32 -> 36)
1997: 8.50 mk = 9.01 mk
1998: 8.50 mk = 8.93 mk
1999: 8.90 mk = 9.17 mk
2000: 8.90 mk = 8.90 mk
2001: 9.50 mk
At first sight it looks like the cover
prices of the Finnish weeklies in the
50's and the 60's were quite stabile and
started to raise heavily just after the
mid-70's.
But if comparing the prices in today's
currency it turns out that actually the
price lowered steadily from the 1950's
until in 1975 it started to raise at
moderate speed. At lowest state in 1974
the price was almost only one third of
the weekly's price today. Sad but true:
nowadays the price of the Finnish weekly
Aku Ankka is highest ever. :(
(- and what has changed since 1975? The
32-pager weekly has got advertisements
four pages more and it is still being
printed same kind of mid-quality-toilet
paper as it was in 25 years ago)
BTW - When Carl Barks created his famous
stories in the 1940 - 60's all great US
titles like WDC&S, US, DD, MM,... costed
only 10 - 15 US cents a copy. How much
that would be in today's currencies?
- Simo
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Ohjeet saat t??lt? www.iobox.fi
the value of money alternates. However
there are ways to visualize how currences
of different times corresponds by each
other. By using different kind of
correlation tables of currencies it is
easy to calculate things such as: "If
Uncle Scrooge had a dollar in year 1900,
how much that dollar would be in today's
money?"
This is cheap fun, tables can be found
from pocket calenders or from the internet.
Now (back to the Disney comics) the list
there below views:
1) the cover prices of the Finnish Disney
comic weekly Aku Ankka 1951-2001.
2) the same cover price transformed into
today's currency.
All prices are in Finnish marks. Prices
are from the first basic/standard issue
of every year (Issues having expensive
supplements are not counted)
E.g. In 1951 the 1st issue costed 50
marks and that would correspond 7.75
(FIM) in today's money. (some 1.30 euros)
Finnish weekly Aku Ankka 1951-2001:
year: the cover price = in today's currency
1951: 50.00 mk = 7.75 mk (monthly)
1952: 50.00 mk = 7.45 mk
1953: 50.00 mk = 7.30 mk
1954: 50.00 mk = 7.30 mk
1955: 50.00 mk = 7.50 mk
1956: 50.00 mk = 6.75 mk ("bi-weekly")
1957: 50.00 mk = 6.05 mk
1958: 60.00 mk = 6.84 mk
1959: 60.00 mk = 6.72 mk
1960: 60.00 mk = 6.54 mk
1961: 60.00 mk = 6.36 mk (weekly)
1962: 60.00 mk = 6.12 mk
1963: 0.60 mk = 5.84 mk (zeroes removed)
1964: 0.70 mk = 6.18 mk
1965: 0.70 mk = 5.90 mk
1966: 0.70 mk = 5.68 mk
1967: 0.70 mk = 5.38 mk
1968: 0.80 mk = 5.66 mk
1969: 0.80 mk = 5.53 mk
1970: 0.80 mk = 5.38 mk
1971: 0.80 mk = 5.06 mk
1972: 0.80 mk = 4.73 mk
1973: 0.80 mk = 4.22 mk
1974: 0.80 mk = 3.61 mk
1975: 1.00 mk = 3.83 mk
1976: 1.50 mk = 5.01 mk
1977: 1.50 mk = 4.46 mk
1978: 1.80 mk = 4.97 mk
1979: 2.10 mk = 5.40 mk
1980: 2.40 mk = 5.52 mk
1981: 2.60 mk = 5.36 mk
1982: 3.10 mk = 5.83 mk
1983: 3.50 mk = 6.06 mk
1984: 3.90 mk = 6.32 mk
1985: 4.40 mk = 6.73 mk
1986: 4.80 mk = 7.10 mk
1987: 5.10 mk = 7.29 mk
1988: 5.40 mk = 7.34 mk
1989: 5.70 mk = 7.24 mk
1990: 6.00 mk = 7.20 mk
1991: 6.40 mk = 7.36 mk
1992: 6.70 mk = 7.57 mk
1993: 6.90 mk = 7.59 mk
1994: 7.50 mk = 8.18 mk
1995: 7.90 mk = 8.53 mk
1996: 8.50 mk = 9.10 mk (pages 32 -> 36)
1997: 8.50 mk = 9.01 mk
1998: 8.50 mk = 8.93 mk
1999: 8.90 mk = 9.17 mk
2000: 8.90 mk = 8.90 mk
2001: 9.50 mk
At first sight it looks like the cover
prices of the Finnish weeklies in the
50's and the 60's were quite stabile and
started to raise heavily just after the
mid-70's.
But if comparing the prices in today's
currency it turns out that actually the
price lowered steadily from the 1950's
until in 1975 it started to raise at
moderate speed. At lowest state in 1974
the price was almost only one third of
the weekly's price today. Sad but true:
nowadays the price of the Finnish weekly
Aku Ankka is highest ever. :(
(- and what has changed since 1975? The
32-pager weekly has got advertisements
four pages more and it is still being
printed same kind of mid-quality-toilet
paper as it was in 25 years ago)
BTW - When Carl Barks created his famous
stories in the 1940 - 60's all great US
titles like WDC&S, US, DD, MM,... costed
only 10 - 15 US cents a copy. How much
that would be in today's currencies?
- Simo
_ _ _
Vastaa ja voita puhelin! Osallistu ioQuiz kilpailuun.
Ohjeet saat t??lt? www.iobox.fi
WL Lilly
To Gary And Sue: Thank You !
Message 140 -
2001-07-26 at 20:00:43
A belated thank you to Gary and Sue for their
information on Gladstone's non-Disney doings . I , as
I imagine you'd realize , wasn't belittling them -
Given that this is
(1) A Disney list ,
(2) Primarily made up of Europeans ,
I thought some additional explanations might be
needed .
As little as it was , I was ESPECIALLY glad to find
out something about " Eek! The Cat " ! ( Which , since
, after its initial run on Fox , it was , I believe ,
re-run on the - now to be bought by , as Don puts it ,
Di$ney - Fox Family Channel , makes it at least SORT
OF Did.-connected , no ????????? )
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information on Gladstone's non-Disney doings . I , as
I imagine you'd realize , wasn't belittling them -
Given that this is
(1) A Disney list ,
(2) Primarily made up of Europeans ,
I thought some additional explanations might be
needed .
As little as it was , I was ESPECIALLY glad to find
out something about " Eek! The Cat " ! ( Which , since
, after its initial run on Fox , it was , I believe ,
re-run on the - now to be bought by , as Don puts it ,
Di$ney - Fox Family Channel , makes it at least SORT
OF Did.-connected , no ????????? )
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( Sorta OT ) U.S. Comics Sales
Message 141 -
2001-07-26 at 20:35:40
I just , yesterday , picked up a few-months-old copy
of an Archie , 32-pages/$1.99 , comic , " ARCHIE &
FRIENDS " #46 , Mar. 2001 cover date . It has a
Publisher's Statement in it , which lists the paid
circulation , of the most recent issue , over a
one-year period , as...27,256 copies !!!!! That's all
. For ALL of the U.S. ( inc. possesions , military
bases , etc. ) , Canada , and , I suppose , whatever
additional exporting of it there might be .
That's , actually , a considerable IMPROVEMENT over
the whole year - the average per issue for the last 12
months is 21,488 !!!!! Oy . Oy . Oy , oy , oy , oy ,
oy !!!!!!!!! Oy vey .
Likewise , the ratio of copies printed against
copies sold ( With the unsold copies - traditionally ,
anyway - being pulped/junked/destroyed , I hope
they're recycled but I'm not sure that they are . ) ,
though , again , it's actually improved , there - the
twelve-month average is 62,191 copies printed , while
the most recent issue's 65,244 - the percentage of
copies sold has gone up , in other words .
Perhaps Archie sees the 32-pagers as a " Broadway
"/" hard ticket "/" hardcover " first run to provide
material for their digest titles ( They're the only US
comics publisher that , particularly , does digests !
) , which are very widely distributed - Their
comics-shop sales aren't , as you might expect ,
particularly great . This DOES have relevance for the
question of " how/can little child-oriented comic
books/magazines sell , enough to make a profit , in
the US/Canadian market of today ? , so this is , I
would say , relevant to Disney - Are Archies
distributed/reprinted very much in mainland Europe ,
anyway ? Perhaps they're a little too , peculiarly ,
American , or English-speaking culture-rooted , anyway
.
As I've mentioned , DC publishes a small number of
kid-oriented comics , Cartoon Network?Warner Bros.
cartoons-oriented titles like " SCOOBY DOO " , "
DEXTER'S LABRATORY " , , the " POWDERPUFF GIRLS " ,
and " LOONEY TOONS " , plus , you may , or may not ,
want to count these TV cartoon-connected " simpler "
versions of DC's superheroes , " SUPERMAN ADVENTURES "
and " BATMAN GOTHAM ADVENTURES " , ( Probably to be
joined soon by a Justice League title ! ) along with
these . Viz , and Dark Horse , have some kid-oriented
manga titles , " DRAGONBALL Z " , and " DIGIMON " ,
and the like , but , I'm not sure how widely
distributed they are .
Hey , aren't these " good paper...
U.S. Disney comics " that have been referred to the
Gladstone black and white album editions ? I've seen
them listed in ( U.S. comics shops catalogue )
Previews , but haven't ordered them - No doubt ,
they're lovely for adult collectors/fans , but ,
that's hardly what would sell to little kids/their
parents , and that is the economic base , at least in
part , that would be needed for North American
Disney traditional
" comic-book " size ,
color , comics to be economically viable !
Re English-languaqge DisComics in general : I'd been
told , at this board , or over at Yahh! , that it was
not just the US/Canadian Mmarket , but the UK/Eire ,
and AU/NZ markets , that were all without Dis. comics
at the moment !!!!!!! The entire " English-speaking ,
industrial , West " , in other words - It seems to
have been indicated to me that the mainland European
Disney publishers did some limited English publishing
- I must go now , more later !!!!!
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of an Archie , 32-pages/$1.99 , comic , " ARCHIE &
FRIENDS " #46 , Mar. 2001 cover date . It has a
Publisher's Statement in it , which lists the paid
circulation , of the most recent issue , over a
one-year period , as...27,256 copies !!!!! That's all
. For ALL of the U.S. ( inc. possesions , military
bases , etc. ) , Canada , and , I suppose , whatever
additional exporting of it there might be .
That's , actually , a considerable IMPROVEMENT over
the whole year - the average per issue for the last 12
months is 21,488 !!!!! Oy . Oy . Oy , oy , oy , oy ,
oy !!!!!!!!! Oy vey .
Likewise , the ratio of copies printed against
copies sold ( With the unsold copies - traditionally ,
anyway - being pulped/junked/destroyed , I hope
they're recycled but I'm not sure that they are . ) ,
though , again , it's actually improved , there - the
twelve-month average is 62,191 copies printed , while
the most recent issue's 65,244 - the percentage of
copies sold has gone up , in other words .
Perhaps Archie sees the 32-pagers as a " Broadway
"/" hard ticket "/" hardcover " first run to provide
material for their digest titles ( They're the only US
comics publisher that , particularly , does digests !
) , which are very widely distributed - Their
comics-shop sales aren't , as you might expect ,
particularly great . This DOES have relevance for the
question of " how/can little child-oriented comic
books/magazines sell , enough to make a profit , in
the US/Canadian market of today ? , so this is , I
would say , relevant to Disney - Are Archies
distributed/reprinted very much in mainland Europe ,
anyway ? Perhaps they're a little too , peculiarly ,
American , or English-speaking culture-rooted , anyway
.
As I've mentioned , DC publishes a small number of
kid-oriented comics , Cartoon Network?Warner Bros.
cartoons-oriented titles like " SCOOBY DOO " , "
DEXTER'S LABRATORY " , , the " POWDERPUFF GIRLS " ,
and " LOONEY TOONS " , plus , you may , or may not ,
want to count these TV cartoon-connected " simpler "
versions of DC's superheroes , " SUPERMAN ADVENTURES "
and " BATMAN GOTHAM ADVENTURES " , ( Probably to be
joined soon by a Justice League title ! ) along with
these . Viz , and Dark Horse , have some kid-oriented
manga titles , " DRAGONBALL Z " , and " DIGIMON " ,
and the like , but , I'm not sure how widely
distributed they are .
Hey , aren't these " good paper...
U.S. Disney comics " that have been referred to the
Gladstone black and white album editions ? I've seen
them listed in ( U.S. comics shops catalogue )
Previews , but haven't ordered them - No doubt ,
they're lovely for adult collectors/fans , but ,
that's hardly what would sell to little kids/their
parents , and that is the economic base , at least in
part , that would be needed for North American
Disney traditional
" comic-book " size ,
color , comics to be economically viable !
Re English-languaqge DisComics in general : I'd been
told , at this board , or over at Yahh! , that it was
not just the US/Canadian Mmarket , but the UK/Eire ,
and AU/NZ markets , that were all without Dis. comics
at the moment !!!!!!! The entire " English-speaking ,
industrial , West " , in other words - It seems to
have been indicated to me that the mainland European
Disney publishers did some limited English publishing
- I must go now , more later !!!!!
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( Sorta OT ) U.S. Comics Sales II !!!!!
Message 142 -
2001-07-26 at 21:27:45
...( A tiny addition/clarification before I go on .
First , I should've written " Yahoo! " , as in the
Yahoo comic club Duck Comics Of Barks and Rosa , which
sort of led to me coming here in the first place .
Second , the Archie title I was referencing , funny
enough , did not actually HAVE a cover date on the
cover itself , just in the incida ( The small print on
the inside of the comic - often , but not always , the
first page - with legal/Post Office information - I
might have spelled " incida " wrong , I just tried the
spell check , but , as I expected , the spell-check
seemed thrown by it . ) - This was a comic-shop copy ,
not a newsstand copy - Perhaps , the newsstand
editions have a date on the cover ? )
...Anyway , I was under the impression that some
Euro-Disney comics publishers - mostly , French and
Italian ? - did some limited amount of English
publishing , mostly in special/commemmerative editions
of classic stories ( and , some of Don's " Barksverse
" stories ? )...but , that there was also an
English-language quarterly - something secondary , in
other words - from the French publisher , or similar
to that . Also , I'd been told that an
English-language Disney comic was being published in
India ( Perhaps for distribution across the
Commonwealth - in Asia/Africa/West Indies , I mean -
as well ? ) , but that the publisher there wasn't
prepared
( Or , allowed ? By their agreement with Disney ,
I mean . ) to deal with subscriptions to the West .
Yesterday , at the comics shop I go to , here in San
Francisco , ( Jeffery's Toys , at - Third ? - and
Market , in the Hearst Building . ) I was telling the
owner about this list . He's said he'd really like
Disney comics in the U.S. to be publishing again . I
told him of the , apparent , 100% English-speaking
West shutdown...He was under the impression that
Disney had been banned , or , at least , had it made
difficult for Disney comics to be sold , in much of
Europe .
Oh , by the way , as far as " WDC&S "'s peak sales
go , I recently saw a statistic that " MAD " magazine
was selling well over 2 million per issue , at their
circulation height , in the early 1970s , ( They're
far less than that now . ) though I can't access the
file where the article in which I saw the statistic is
, just now . Of course , as the very term " magazine "
indicated , post-50s " MAD " was printed , and
marketed , a bit differently from " regular " comic
books - It may well be
less than pre-TV " WD " s peak , anyway !
( NOTE: My statistics/etc. here are done without
reference works handy , so , if any mistakes appear...
You know what to blame !!!!! )
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First , I should've written " Yahoo! " , as in the
Yahoo comic club Duck Comics Of Barks and Rosa , which
sort of led to me coming here in the first place .
Second , the Archie title I was referencing , funny
enough , did not actually HAVE a cover date on the
cover itself , just in the incida ( The small print on
the inside of the comic - often , but not always , the
first page - with legal/Post Office information - I
might have spelled " incida " wrong , I just tried the
spell check , but , as I expected , the spell-check
seemed thrown by it . ) - This was a comic-shop copy ,
not a newsstand copy - Perhaps , the newsstand
editions have a date on the cover ? )
...Anyway , I was under the impression that some
Euro-Disney comics publishers - mostly , French and
Italian ? - did some limited amount of English
publishing , mostly in special/commemmerative editions
of classic stories ( and , some of Don's " Barksverse
" stories ? )...but , that there was also an
English-language quarterly - something secondary , in
other words - from the French publisher , or similar
to that . Also , I'd been told that an
English-language Disney comic was being published in
India ( Perhaps for distribution across the
Commonwealth - in Asia/Africa/West Indies , I mean -
as well ? ) , but that the publisher there wasn't
prepared
( Or , allowed ? By their agreement with Disney ,
I mean . ) to deal with subscriptions to the West .
Yesterday , at the comics shop I go to , here in San
Francisco , ( Jeffery's Toys , at - Third ? - and
Market , in the Hearst Building . ) I was telling the
owner about this list . He's said he'd really like
Disney comics in the U.S. to be publishing again . I
told him of the , apparent , 100% English-speaking
West shutdown...He was under the impression that
Disney had been banned , or , at least , had it made
difficult for Disney comics to be sold , in much of
Europe .
Oh , by the way , as far as " WDC&S "'s peak sales
go , I recently saw a statistic that " MAD " magazine
was selling well over 2 million per issue , at their
circulation height , in the early 1970s , ( They're
far less than that now . ) though I can't access the
file where the article in which I saw the statistic is
, just now . Of course , as the very term " magazine "
indicated , post-50s " MAD " was printed , and
marketed , a bit differently from " regular " comic
books - It may well be
less than pre-TV " WD " s peak , anyway !
( NOTE: My statistics/etc. here are done without
reference works handy , so , if any mistakes appear...
You know what to blame !!!!! )
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San Diego & Manga Ducks
Message 143 -
2001-07-26 at 22:40:06
> 10. re: San Diego Souvenir Book (Carey Furlong)
>Subject: re: San Diego Souvenir Book
Ah, I'm back from one-week summer holiday without internet and going through
150+ messages.. (70% advertisements, luckily.. easy to handle with "delete"
:-))
>your Carl Barks
>art submission was included in the souvenir book
Well, it's really wonderful to be in very good company:
>Scott Shaw!, Marc Nadel, Errol
>McCarthy, Ken Kramer, Michael A.S. Smith, Don Rosa (the money bid
>blueprints!!!) Roman Arambula, Joshua Quagmire,
>I thought yours was one of the better ones.
Thanks! :-)
About the Manga version of Barks' comic:
IMO it was quite far from real manga-style. Only the lay-out was a little
bit like in mangas. Otherwise it was quite ordinary Italian-style stuff.
Which I don't like much (except few masters like Scarpa, Cavazzano, and such
- Rota represents original American style, Barks-style).
Timo
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>Subject: re: San Diego Souvenir Book
Ah, I'm back from one-week summer holiday without internet and going through
150+ messages.. (70% advertisements, luckily.. easy to handle with "delete"
:-))
>your Carl Barks
>art submission was included in the souvenir book
Well, it's really wonderful to be in very good company:
>Scott Shaw!, Marc Nadel, Errol
>McCarthy, Ken Kramer, Michael A.S. Smith, Don Rosa (the money bid
>blueprints!!!) Roman Arambula, Joshua Quagmire,
>I thought yours was one of the better ones.
Thanks! :-)
About the Manga version of Barks' comic:
IMO it was quite far from real manga-style. Only the lay-out was a little
bit like in mangas. Otherwise it was quite ordinary Italian-style stuff.
Which I don't like much (except few masters like Scarpa, Cavazzano, and such
- Rota represents original American style, Barks-style).
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
¨¨ Personal:
http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/timoro/
¨¨ Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://welcome.to/ankistit
.................................
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San Diego & Manga Ducks
Message 144 -
2001-07-26 at 22:53:58
In a message dated 7/26/2001 3:43:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
timoro at hotmail.com writes:
> Ah, I'm back from one-week summer holiday without internet and going through
> 150+ messages.. (70% advertisements, luckily.. easy to handle with "delete"
> :-))
>
gee, you need to get on some more mailing lists, I get more than that on a
slow day!
steven (speed reader) rowe
timoro at hotmail.com writes:
> Ah, I'm back from one-week summer holiday without internet and going through
> 150+ messages.. (70% advertisements, luckily.. easy to handle with "delete"
> :-))
>
gee, you need to get on some more mailing lists, I get more than that on a
slow day!
steven (speed reader) rowe
Agridiotis
Biquinho
Message 145 -
2001-07-26 at 23:04:02
Hello DCML members.
In some Brazilian stories Biquinho (fethry's nephew) appears. I have only
one story of this character and i will be happy if anyone knows and send me
the code of this story to see also the creator.
In the story appears a code (B 880194) but INDUCKS haven's this code. Maybe
it's wrong. That story says about Biquinho that goes to school and his
teacher gives him a part. A frog. But he doesn't like that and he want's the
role of king. But because the role of king is too small and frog in the end
become prince he accept this role. But in this role he should kiss "Maria"
(this is the translate in Greece" but he didn't want that. So he put a
really frog to kiss "Maria".
Thanks and bye!
George Agridiotis, Nicosia - Cyprus
E-mail: agridiot at spidernet.net
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixwebsite/
DCML member
In some Brazilian stories Biquinho (fethry's nephew) appears. I have only
one story of this character and i will be happy if anyone knows and send me
the code of this story to see also the creator.
In the story appears a code (B 880194) but INDUCKS haven's this code. Maybe
it's wrong. That story says about Biquinho that goes to school and his
teacher gives him a part. A frog. But he doesn't like that and he want's the
role of king. But because the role of king is too small and frog in the end
become prince he accept this role. But in this role he should kiss "Maria"
(this is the translate in Greece" but he didn't want that. So he put a
really frog to kiss "Maria".
Thanks and bye!
George Agridiotis, Nicosia - Cyprus
E-mail: agridiot at spidernet.net
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixwebsite/
DCML member
Kathy Fitzpatrick
Sci-fi/Duck fans
Message 146 -
2001-07-27 at 01:48:51
The first Sci-Fi book I read that got me started was "Mindswap", can never
remember the author, don't think he wrote anything else.
It should not be surprising that many of us like fantasy and science fiction
since to love Ducks means to have possibly unlimited imagination.
I also believe most people on the list are very creative and use their
imagination to enrich their lives to keep their jobs and marriages (those of
us that are married) interesting and fun. I can't imagine being married to
someone who didn't also read about Ducks and Mice... -Kathy
remember the author, don't think he wrote anything else.
It should not be surprising that many of us like fantasy and science fiction
since to love Ducks means to have possibly unlimited imagination.
I also believe most people on the list are very creative and use their
imagination to enrich their lives to keep their jobs and marriages (those of
us that are married) interesting and fun. I can't imagine being married to
someone who didn't also read about Ducks and Mice... -Kathy
Fernando Ventura
Agridiotis: Brazilian Biquinho's story
Message 147 -
2001-07-27 at 02:04:43
Agridiotis:
>In some Brazilian stories Biquinho (fethry's nephew) appears.
Yes...since he's a brazilian creation!
8)
>I have only
>one story of this character and i will be happy if anyone knows and send me
>the code of this story to see also the creator
>In the story appears a code (B 880194) but INDUCKS haven's this code. Maybe
>it's wrong.
Maybe it's not! This story is published on a "Disney Mix" comic, and some
issues of it was not indexed yet! Probably it's a missing issue on Arthur
Faria's colecction, but I have this comic and I remember the story...very
funny! I really like's this thing of the real frog! Unfortunately my comics
colection, and this issue in fact, was in my house in Aruj?...and I'm in
S?o Paulo...but I remeber the artist, Irineu Soares
Rodrigues...unfortunatelly I can't say nothing about the writter or the
inker...!
To make this SURE, I ask you to send me a scan, if it's possible, of some
panels, or a page of the story!
I hope my memory remains the same, since I'm now with 21 years old... ;)
Fernando!
(that really want's to do a Biquinho story one day!)
>In some Brazilian stories Biquinho (fethry's nephew) appears.
Yes...since he's a brazilian creation!
8)
>I have only
>one story of this character and i will be happy if anyone knows and send me
>the code of this story to see also the creator
>In the story appears a code (B 880194) but INDUCKS haven's this code. Maybe
>it's wrong.
Maybe it's not! This story is published on a "Disney Mix" comic, and some
issues of it was not indexed yet! Probably it's a missing issue on Arthur
Faria's colecction, but I have this comic and I remember the story...very
funny! I really like's this thing of the real frog! Unfortunately my comics
colection, and this issue in fact, was in my house in Aruj?...and I'm in
S?o Paulo...but I remeber the artist, Irineu Soares
Rodrigues...unfortunatelly I can't say nothing about the writter or the
inker...!
To make this SURE, I ask you to send me a scan, if it's possible, of some
panels, or a page of the story!
I hope my memory remains the same, since I'm now with 21 years old... ;)
Fernando!
(that really want's to do a Biquinho story one day!)
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #617 - 10 msgs
Message 148 -
2001-07-27 at 13:49:34
VIC:
> standard of US comic paper...my Gladstones have all
> gone brown already, the paper was so cheap...
Speaking of Gladstone paper, I have a soft spot for the kind of paper
Gladstone used in their first few issues of their first run, which seems
thicker and of better quality than what they used later. Can anyone
confirm this, or is it purely subjective? Gary, can you shed some light
into this?
SIMO:
The table you posted is very interesting! However, I have a few
reservations about it, as it would seem to me that converting old prices
to modern ones is a non-trivial task. How is this done? By adjusting
for the official values of inflation for each year? If so, does the
computation of inflation involve the price of comic books? (I don't
think so.) Is the conversion done by comparing the price of comic books
to the price of some staple at the same time, such as a loaf of bread
(which may be subsidized) or a Big Mac (which may not have existed in
the early 50s, and even if it did, it would have been considered a luxury
at that time)? Is it done by comparing the price of a comic book to the
price of paper, which has risen sky-high the last few years? Finally,
what percentage of a typical household income was the price of a comic
book in the early fifties, compared to today? I'm sure that depending
on which criterion you use, you'll end up with quite different tables,
all of which will be equally interesting.
WL LILLY:
> Oy vey .
Having seen this expression a few times, I've been curious to find
out what it means. From the context of your posting, I assume it means
something like "oh, my stars and little comets", "ye, cats and little
kittens", or words to that effect, but I'll ask, anyway: what does
it mean?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"When do I get to meet some monsters?"
"Never, hopefully."
-----
> standard of US comic paper...my Gladstones have all
> gone brown already, the paper was so cheap...
Speaking of Gladstone paper, I have a soft spot for the kind of paper
Gladstone used in their first few issues of their first run, which seems
thicker and of better quality than what they used later. Can anyone
confirm this, or is it purely subjective? Gary, can you shed some light
into this?
SIMO:
The table you posted is very interesting! However, I have a few
reservations about it, as it would seem to me that converting old prices
to modern ones is a non-trivial task. How is this done? By adjusting
for the official values of inflation for each year? If so, does the
computation of inflation involve the price of comic books? (I don't
think so.) Is the conversion done by comparing the price of comic books
to the price of some staple at the same time, such as a loaf of bread
(which may be subsidized) or a Big Mac (which may not have existed in
the early 50s, and even if it did, it would have been considered a luxury
at that time)? Is it done by comparing the price of a comic book to the
price of paper, which has risen sky-high the last few years? Finally,
what percentage of a typical household income was the price of a comic
book in the early fifties, compared to today? I'm sure that depending
on which criterion you use, you'll end up with quite different tables,
all of which will be equally interesting.
WL LILLY:
> Oy vey .
Having seen this expression a few times, I've been curious to find
out what it means. From the context of your posting, I assume it means
something like "oh, my stars and little comets", "ye, cats and little
kittens", or words to that effect, but I'll ask, anyway: what does
it mean?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"When do I get to meet some monsters?"
"Never, hopefully."
-----
Olivier
( Sorta OT ) U.S. Comics Sales II !!!!!
Message 149 -
2001-07-27 at 15:01:41
Hi everyone!
W.L. Lilly: (I can't find your name; Walter? Walt?)
>>I was under the impression that some
>>Euro-Disney comics publishers - mostly , French and
>>Italian ? - did some limited amount of English
>>publishing , mostly in special/commemmerative editions
>>of classic stories ( and , some of Don's " Barksverse
>>" stories ? )...but , that there was also an
>>English-language quarterly - something secondary , in
>>other words - from the French publisher , or similar
>>to that .
I don't know anything about an Enlgish-language publication
here in France. I'm pretty sure there isn't-- Fran?ois?
Even as albums.
Olivier
W.L. Lilly: (I can't find your name; Walter? Walt?)
>>I was under the impression that some
>>Euro-Disney comics publishers - mostly , French and
>>Italian ? - did some limited amount of English
>>publishing , mostly in special/commemmerative editions
>>of classic stories ( and , some of Don's " Barksverse
>>" stories ? )...but , that there was also an
>>English-language quarterly - something secondary , in
>>other words - from the French publisher , or similar
>>to that .
I don't know anything about an Enlgish-language publication
here in France. I'm pretty sure there isn't-- Fran?ois?
Even as albums.
Olivier
Francois Willot
( Sorta OT ) U.S. Comics Sales II !!!!!
Message 150 -
2001-07-27 at 16:28:55
Hi Olivier, "W.L." Lilly,
>De: Olivier
>W.L. Lilly: (I can't find your name; Walter? Walt?)
>I don't know anything about an Enlgish-language publication
>here in France. I'm pretty sure there isn't-- Fran?ois?
>Even as albums.
There was an educational publication called "Magic English" made to learn
English. Five or six issues were published a few years ago, but I haven't
seen any other recently.
There are also a few English comics (gags) in the Journal de Mikey and
Mickey-Parade, produced in France.
Francois
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/coa/coa/c1/
>De: Olivier
>W.L. Lilly: (I can't find your name; Walter? Walt?)
>I don't know anything about an Enlgish-language publication
>here in France. I'm pretty sure there isn't-- Fran?ois?
>Even as albums.
There was an educational publication called "Magic English" made to learn
English. Five or six issues were published a few years ago, but I haven't
seen any other recently.
There are also a few English comics (gags) in the Journal de Mikey and
Mickey-Parade, produced in France.
Francois
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/coa/coa/c1/