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Sue And Gary Leach
Kriton:

During Gladstone's first run, we printed on pulp newsprint chosen and
purchased, usually based on cost and bulk availability, by the printer,
World Color Press/Spartan Printing, an outfit that had been printing a
pretty fair chunk of U.S. comics output for nearly half a century. This pulp
newsprint could, and did, vary widely in quality from bulk lot to bulk lot,
so what qualities you may discern in the paper in the first-run Gladstones
would be entirely based on that.

Gary Leach
Simo Malinen
KRITON KYRIMIS: (Fri 27 Jul)
The table you posted is very interesting! However, I have a few
reservations about it, as it would seem to me that converting old prices
to modern ones is a non-trivial task. How is this done? By adjusting
for the official values of inflation for each year? If so, does the
computation of inflation involve the price of comic books? (I don't
think so.) Is the conversion done by comparing the price of comic books
to the price of some staple at the same time, such as a loaf of bread
(which may be subsidized) or a Big Mac (which may not have existed in
the early 50s, and even if it did, it would have been considered a luxury
at that time)? Is it done by comparing the price of a comic book to the
price of paper, which has risen sky-high the last few years? Finally,
what percentage of a typical household income was the price of a comic
book in the early fifties, compared to today? I'm sure that depending
on which criterion you use, you'll end up with quite different tables,
all of which will be equally interesting.

Well, my table was done by using the purchasing
power values of the currency (Finnish mark) at
1951-2000.

Let's say: "In 1951 the price of the Finnish
weekly Aku Ankka was 50.00 marks and that is
about 7.75 marks in today's currency."

This means that in 1951 50.00 marks (of the
currency in 1951) could be used to buy goods
etc. about as much as 7.75 marks (of the today's
currency) at today. Because currently the
Finnish weekly costs 9.50 marks we can assume
that it's price has raised since 1951.

Surely there are other reasons but inflation
raising the costs of the weekly, like taxes
included the price. But finally the cover price
is the one the buyer sees.

BTW - All the prices were calculated by using
a table from: (in Finnish)
http://economics.meritanordbanken.com/fin/calc/fimtable.asp

And here's the table with the numbers again:

Finnish weekly Aku Ankka 1951-2001:
1) the cover prices of the Finnish Disney
comic weekly Aku Ankka 1951-2001.
2) the same cover price transformed into
today's currency.

year: the cover price = in today's currency
1951: 50.00 mk = 7.75 mk (monthly)
1952: 50.00 mk = 7.45 mk
1953: 50.00 mk = 7.30 mk
1954: 50.00 mk = 7.30 mk
1955: 50.00 mk = 7.50 mk
1956: 50.00 mk = 6.75 mk ("bi-weekly")
1957: 50.00 mk = 6.05 mk
1958: 60.00 mk = 6.84 mk
1959: 60.00 mk = 6.72 mk
1960: 60.00 mk = 6.54 mk
1961: 60.00 mk = 6.36 mk (weekly)
1962: 60.00 mk = 6.12 mk
1963: 0.60 mk = 5.84 mk (zeroes removed)
1964: 0.70 mk = 6.18 mk
1965: 0.70 mk = 5.90 mk
1966: 0.70 mk = 5.68 mk
1967: 0.70 mk = 5.38 mk
1968: 0.80 mk = 5.66 mk
1969: 0.80 mk = 5.53 mk
1970: 0.80 mk = 5.38 mk
1971: 0.80 mk = 5.06 mk
1972: 0.80 mk = 4.73 mk
1973: 0.80 mk = 4.22 mk
1974: 0.80 mk = 3.61 mk
1975: 1.00 mk = 3.83 mk
1976: 1.50 mk = 5.01 mk
1977: 1.50 mk = 4.46 mk
1978: 1.80 mk = 4.97 mk
1979: 2.10 mk = 5.40 mk
1980: 2.40 mk = 5.52 mk
1981: 2.60 mk = 5.36 mk
1982: 3.10 mk = 5.83 mk
1983: 3.50 mk = 6.06 mk
1984: 3.90 mk = 6.32 mk
1985: 4.40 mk = 6.73 mk
1986: 4.80 mk = 7.10 mk
1987: 5.10 mk = 7.29 mk
1988: 5.40 mk = 7.34 mk
1989: 5.70 mk = 7.24 mk
1990: 6.00 mk = 7.20 mk
1991: 6.40 mk = 7.36 mk
1992: 6.70 mk = 7.57 mk
1993: 6.90 mk = 7.59 mk
1994: 7.50 mk = 8.18 mk
1995: 7.90 mk = 8.53 mk
1996: 8.50 mk = 9.10 mk (pages 32 -> 36)
1997: 8.50 mk = 9.01 mk
1998: 8.50 mk = 8.93 mk
1999: 8.90 mk = 9.17 mk
2000: 8.90 mk = 8.90 mk
2001: 9.50 mk

- Simo

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Petri Kanninen
ME & ARMANDO
>>In "Topolino e i fantasmi neri" (I TL 466-B) two of Clarabelle's uncles
>>have an accident with a helicopter and die. This happens in >> an episode
>>drawn by Perego (otherwise the story is drawn by Carpi) >> so I don't know
>>if the scene is in the original publications.
>Interesting... I TL 466-B has just been reprinted in Italy in "Grandi
>Classici" 176: Clarabelle's uncles die because of the explosion of a >bomb
>in their pumpkin field. The scene is drawn by Carpi. I've >checked an older
>Italian reprint (CWD 32, from 1969), and there's no >trace of Perego there,
>either... maybe Perego re-drew the scene for a later reprint (CD 57, >or TM
>27)? Can anybody check?

How many pages are there explaning uncles' deaths? In Finnish edition it is
three pages long and goes something like this:
CL's uncles have just finished counting their massive pumpkin harvest.
Suddenly their friend(?) runs to them pointing in the sky and says "There's
a helicopter coming!" The helicopter lands on their field destroying many of
the pumpkins. The pilot comes out and says he wanted to rest awhile and
landed. (Is that courteous or what?!) CL's uncles are a bit annoyed because
they now don't know how many pumpkins there are left. Their friend comes up
with an idea. The pilot lets them use the helicopter and they can easily
count the pumpkins from the air (excuse me?). Pilot says OK and CL's uncles
clime in the helicopter (not the pilot). They rise and soon the pilot starts
wondering why they're flying so far away. The uncle's friend says that it's
simple: they don't know how to fly a helicopter.
Story also says that CL's uncles bodies were later found in the river. Don't
remember if this was part of the Perego drawn episode.

Well, this brilliant show of logic and rationality has always left me quite
disturbed. Hope you enjoyed it!
BTW. It would be nice to see how original episode goes. I'll try to put
scans of the Finnish edition on the net in the weekend.

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Botto Armando
Petri wrote, regarding "Topolino e i fantasmi neri" (I TL 466-B):
> How many pages are there explaning uncles' deaths? In Finnish edition it
is
> three pages long and goes something like this: [...]

I'll be more precise tonight (and I'll also provide scans to Petri, for him
to put them on the net), but I seem to remember the scene takes just a few
panels in the original version.

> Well, this brilliant show of logic and rationality has always left me
quite
> disturbed. Hope you enjoyed it!

Yep! Now the question is: were the additional pages drawn by Perego for the
Italian reprint in "Topomistery" #27 ? All the other known reprints have
been already checked, either by Eta or by myself...
The Inducks currently reports that the TM 27 reprint (which came out in
1994) is 40 pages long, exactly like the original version - which seems to
imply that no addition was made (maybe Marco Barlotti can verify?). It seems
strange, though, that the Finnish editors had an Italian artist perform such
a modification... BTW, Petri, could you tell us in which Finnish edition
you've read the modified story?

Ciao,
Armando
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Links to rare/original/unpublished Barks items. I don't have any
connection with the sellers or the sites. If you've seen other
rare/original/unpublished items, I hope you'll post them to the list
as well. Information is taken from the sellers' descriptions, unless
otherwise noted. ("DvE")

Items at Ebay (http://www.ebay.com):

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BARKS ORIGINAL UNCLE SCROOGE 50'S COVER ART
Item # 1173214410
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1173214410

This is a beautiful piece of art by legend and Duckman supreme...
Carl Barks. Carl drew this on an onion skin type tracing paper.
It is done in pencil and is signed on the bottom corner in ink by Carl.
It is about 9x12 in size. Carl worked in these pre-lins all the time,
all the original covers are owned by Disney (The Walt Disney Production
Company), so none of the originals have ever been sold (if they still
even exist). This is a chance to own an original cover from issue #46
or #51 by the creator of Uncle Scrooge, Huey Dewey and Louie, Gyro
Gearloose and more. I checked the covers of every issue from #40-65
and the only issue I didn't see was #51, so this is either the cover
to #51 or an unused original version of #46. I am not sure. [...]
The reserve is set at $2200.00 a great price for this piece of history.

[It's an alternate cover sketch for "Lost Beneath the Sea" in US 46.
The title on this cover sketch is "Strangers Under The Sea". Contains
logo and cover layout lines. It is different from the similar-looking
alternate cover sketch in The Carl Barks Library set 5, at the bottom
of page 287. Version as printed in the CBL does not contain logo or
layout lines. DvE.]

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Disney Carl Barks Oil-Ograph No Res / Only 75
Item # 1171058657
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1171058657

Hello EBAY Shoppers: I have this very very nice oil-Ograph created by
Carl Barks. It is one of only 75 that were created. This piece
"Invasion of Privacy" was issued 3 years ago and each year they were
going to issue another different print. I loved this version so much
I sold my unframed paper version for $350 at a show and immediately
bought this one for $500. It looks exactly like the oil painting it
is even on cloth.. To a person when they see it the first thing they
say is" you own an original Barks" The answer is YES this is a very
beautiful Oil-Ograph by Barks. It looks so real Disney has a stamp on
the back of the piece that states "This is a reproduction" The framing
on the piece is also fantastic. It was hand signed by Barks. I have
several other items that I had Carl Barks sign through the years and
will be putting some of these on EBAY also soon so.Please check out
my other auctions I have a lot of other great Disney items. This is
from my personal collection and the only reason I am selling it is
because I need some more money for a house I am buying othwise it
wouldn't be for sale. Shipping will be $10 in the United States.
Another alternative For more Great Disney items go to the
Disneyananet.com

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BRENDA WHITE/CARL BARKS SCROOGE CHARGER
Item # 1171124671
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1171124671

BRENDA WHITE/CARL BARKS SCROOGE CHARGER
This unique charger signed by both Brenda White and Carl Barks from
the 1996 Walt Disney Disneyana convention limited to 25. This piece
is # 4. A must for any Scrooge collector. Estimate $ 2200 - $ 2600

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Popeye Nancy Porky Pig 3 BLB s Carl Barks ?
Item # 1450603781
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1450603781

3 books 1 bid. Popeye the Sailor Man, Better Little Book #1422 copyright
MCMXXXVIII MCMXXXIX MCMXLVII. (1938,1939,1947) in FN-VFN. Nancy All
Pictures Comics #1487 copyright 1943, 1944 FN (pencil Carolyn Carfagno
neatly on first page). Porky Pig and His Gang Better Little Book #1404
is missing the copyright page due to the binding separating along the
interior left edge, a pity because the entire outside cover and spine
are excellent and the remaining pages are tight. The style of the comics
(these are cover to cover comics in black and white) reminds me of
CARL BARKS of Donald Duck Uncle Scrooge fame and he did draw Four Color
Comics #48 Dell Porky Pig of the Mounties in 1944. There are two "Stories"
in this Better Little Book- Porky of the Mounties and Porky and the
Pirate ! I cannot say if he drew this book, but a collector may know.

[Barrier mentions "Porky Pig and His Gang" on page 195, saying that part
of the book is reprinted from "Porky of the Mounties" (OS 48). DvE.]

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Carl Barks hand signed Uncle Scrooge Tie
Item # 1171898053
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1171898053

Hello EBAY Shoppers: I am selling this great Uncle Scrooge tie I had
Carl Barks sign. He was at the Disneyana convention and I was able to
get him to sign this tie and several other items. One being the very
first Uncle Scrooge comic "Which is also on EBAY for sale". Shipping
will be $2.50 in the United States. The tie has been worn numerous
times to work.The only reason I am parting with it is I need the money.

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Carl Barks signed color photo nice!
Item # 1171899591
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1171899591

You are bidding on an 8x10 color photo signed by Carl Barks.It shows
Unca Carl sitting at his drawing board penning a letter to a fan.In
front of him is a Big Little book that he drew.It is signed "to Marcel!
Carl Barks".Very nice item not generally available.Good luck!

[This colour photo is printed in greyscale in The Carl Barks Library
set 1, as part of an article with a compilation of Barks letters. DvE.]

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1st Uncle Scrooge Comic Signed By Carl Barks
Item # 1171896732
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1171896732

Hello EBAY Shoppers: I am selling this comic. It is the very first issue
with Uncle Scrooge a very sought after comic. The condition is good and
I had it signed by Carl Barks in 1993. He was at a Disneyana convention
I was attending.

[Comic is OS 386, also known as US 1. DvE.]

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Barks Ltd Ed.10 Lithos Preliminary Paintings
Item # 1172202855
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1172202855

Carl Barks Limited Edition Lithographc Suite
Preliminary Paintings #404 of 500
Comes with a Carls Barks Signed Certificate of Authenticity

This is one set of a limited edition of 500 suites containing ten prints
each of preliminary concepts and idea sketches painted in mixed media
by Carl Barks during the years 1983 to 1988.

This suite was printed in the trraditional four color lithographic
screened process on 80 pound Cover Karma White a fine paper constructed
for strength and longevity.

This archival quality product has exceptional ink holdout is acid free
to resist aging, and has alkaline buffering to counteract the effects
of acids.

The following is a list of the lithos:
Among His Souvenirs
Money Lake
In Uncle Walt's Collectory
Trail of the Forty Thieves
Sheriff of Bullet Valley
Stamp Collectors' Bad Moment
First National Bank of Cibola
Trespassers Will Be Ventilated
The Makings of a Fish Story
Return to Plain Awful

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End of part 1.

- Daniel
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Continued from previous email "Barks items (010703), part 1".

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CARL BARKS LIFE OF DONALD DUCK AUTO.FILE COPY
Item # 1172851419
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1172851419

This item was acquired at Carl's estate auction !!
This lot consists of the 1994 boxed book set THE LIFE OF DONALD DUCK
signed by CARL BARKS inside first page & is stamped 'THIS COMIC IS THE
PERSONAL FILE COPY OF CARL BARKS ANYONE ELSE POSSESSING THE BOOK HAS
STOLEN IT.Also contains a fireside chat with CARL & DONALD on CD,& great
postcard of a duck oil painting . A GREAT SIGNED PIECE FROM CARL'S
OWN HOME!!WE ALL WILL MISS THE JOY THIS GREAT MAN & ARTIST BROUGHT
TO THE WORLD.

THE AUCTION WAS HELD IN GRANTS PASS,OREGON AT HIS HOME ON JUNE 30 2001 .
I WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE MOST OF HIS DRAWING & PAINTING UTENSILES & WILL
BE PUTTING MANY UP ON AUCTION SOON! ALL ITEMS WILL COME WITH
AUTHENTICATION FROM THE AUCTIONEER & COPY OF AUCTION RECIEPT.

[Second picture "http://diamondacquisitions.homestead.com/files/cbdb1.jpg"
does not show up at the moment of compiling this email. DvE.]

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RARE SCROOGE MCDUCK DONALD BOOK SIGNED BARKS
Item # 1172489461
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1172489461

THIS IS A DELUXE DISNEY BOOK FEATURING A LONG STORY ON CARL BARKS'
EAST COAST 95TH BIRTHDAY EVENT...WITH MANY COLOR PHOTOGRAPHS.

THIS UNUSUAL COLLECTOR'S BOOK IS AUTOGRAPHED WITH AN OVERSIZE "CARL BARKS"
IN LARGE BLACK SHARPIE ON THE FIRST COLOR PRINTED PAGE. THIS IS A SPECIAL
1996 FINISH EDITION. UNCLE SCROOGE, DONALD DUCK, AND HUEY, DEWEY AND LOUIE
ARE FEATURED IN TEN COLORED STORIES AFTER THE BARKS BIRTHDAY EVENT STORY.
THIS HARDBOUND 168 PAGE BOOK IS PRINTED ON FINE PAPER.

BARKS PHOTOGRAPHS ARE PRINTED FROM ORIGINAL TRANSPARENCIES. THE COLOR IS
CRISP AND CLEAR. THIS DONALD DUCK BOOK (AKU ANKA IN FINNISH)IS IN EXCELLENT
CONDITION. THE SPINE HAS NOT BEEN CRACKED. IT HAS NOT BEEN READ.

[Title on picture is something like "Aku Ankan FuhlaSariat 6". Picture
is small and I can't read Finnish, which makes it difficult to decipher
for me. DvE.]

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CARL BARKS SIGNED PINBACK SCROOGE MCDUCK
Item # 1172499642
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1172499642

WOW! A WEARABLE ILLUSTRATED ORIGINAL BARKS' AUTOGRAPH! THIS DISNEY WORLD
EVENT COLLECTIBLE WAS A SIGNED LIMITED EDITION OF THREE!

IT WAS AUTOGRAPHED AND CREATED FOR THE UNCLE SCROOGE 50TH BIRTHDAY
CELEBRATION IN 1997. THIS ALSO CELEBRATED THE 96TH BIRTHDAY OF CARL BARKS.
IT WAS THE LAST DISNEY EVENT THAT BARKS WOULD ATTEND. THE EVENT WAS HELD
AT THE "CALIFORNIA GRILL" RESTAURANT IN THE "CONTEMPORAY RESORT" AT
WALT DISNEY WORLD.

THESE SPECIAL PIN BACK BUTTONS WERE MADE BEFORE THE EVENT. BARKS SIGNED
EACH PIN AT THE EVENT. THE BUTTON WAS THEN PROCESSED IN NORMAL BUTTON
PLASTIC. WITH THIS PINBACK YOU CAN WEAR AN ORIGINAL AUTOGRAPH OF CARL
BARKS WITH HIS PICTURE.

THE CONDITION OF THIS COLLECTIBLE IS EXCELLENT. THE ITEM HAS BEEN STORED
IN OUR COLLECTION SINCE 1996. COLORS ARE BRIGHT AND TIGHT.

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CARL BARKS CHARACATUR CARTOONIST PINBACK
Item # 1172510792
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1172510792

THIS HOT COLLECTIBLE WAS PRODUCED ABOUT TWENTY YEARS AGO!

IT FEATURES AN EARLY 80s CHARACATUR OF CARL BARKS. THIS OLD BUTTON
PINBACK IS BRIGHT YELLOW AND FEATRUES BARKS DRESSED AS DONALD DUCK.
IT IS FROM "THE FAMOUS CARTOONIST SERIES THREE". THE PRODUCER IS
PINBACK JACK, WIS.

THE CONDITION IS EXCELLENT. IT HAS BEEN STORED IN OUR COLLECTION
FOR ABOUT TWO DECADES.

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CARL BARKS LIMITED EDITION MUG EUROPE 1994
Item # 1172600927
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1172600927

THIS MUG WAS CREATED FROM CARL'S SELF CARICATURE, FOR DONALD'S
60TH BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION AND BARKS' EUROPEAN TOUR IN 1994.

THE EDITION SIZE WAS 12 - THIS IS #7/12. THE MUG COMES WITH A
CERTIFICATE OF AUTHINTICITY SIGNED BY THE TWO PEOPLE THAT PRODUCED
THIS MUG IN COPENHAGEN. THE MUG AND THE C OF A ARE NUMBERED.

This is a truly unique collectible. They were only available in
Copenhagen and sold out immediately.

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RARE ?CARL BARKS DONALD DUCK PIN-BACK
Item # 1172883233
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1172883233

?CARL BARKS pin - from the CARL BARKS STUDIO. This is from about 10 years
ago or so and is a rendition of Donald Duck as St. George Slaying the
Dragon. This is from a limited edition of 250 and they are RARE. They will
never be reproduced as it is copyrighted and Mr. Barks just passed away
last year. Size - 1 1/2" X 1". The gold gilt finish on the armor, helmet
and gloves doesn't come through in the photo - CUTE, NEW and RARE!

[Picture is 1970s non-Disney watercolor. It doesn't contain Donald. DvE.]

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SCROOGE McDUCK BOOK-SIGNED BY CARL BARKS
Item # 1173112651
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1173112651

This book was produced in Italy in 1993. It is titled The comedy of
Uncle Scrooge - or something close to that in Italian! It is a hard bound
book with a great glossy graphic cover and gloss pages. There are many
Scrooge comic stories inside, as well as other printed information about
Scrooge and his adventures. Carl Barks signed this book on the inside
title page in black sharpe marker. The Italians are huge Scrooge fans
and this book goes to prove it! It is beautifully done.

[Title on picture is "L'Economia Di Zio Paperone Volume 2". DvE.]

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CARL BARKS DONALD DUCK CHARACTER WATCH
Item # 1173065760
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1173065760

THIS WATCH IS ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD. IT WAS SOLD IN "ANTIQUES AND
COLLECTIBLES" DURING EARLY DISNEYANA CONVENTIONS. THIS LIMITED EDITION
WAS FOR 565 PIECES AND SOLD OUT. CARL BARKS LAST ATTENDED THESE
CONVENTIONS IN 1996.

THE WATCH IS IN GREAT SHAPE. IT WAS WORN CAREFULLY ONCE FOR A WEEK END.
IT COMES WITH THE ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY AND FELT WATCH CASE.

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End of last part.

- Daniel
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