Keskustelujen arkisto

Hi Harry and everyone. I must apologise for my innacurate information on
Jose Carioca and Panchito story and cover production in Holland. My
original source of the writer and artist information was INDUCKS. I looked
at all printings of stories and covers containing Jose Carioca first, and
then those with Panchito. I took notes. It appears my last memory (of the
Panchito pages) made me forget that I took notes on the much more numerous
JC entries. Wilma van den Bosch had a slightly higher percentage of the
entries not by number of pages (but by number of "stories") for the mid
1980s to early 1990s in stories in which Panchito appeared. However, these
were only 1-3 pages. Ruud Straatman, indeed, wrote ALL the long JC
stories, and the great bulk of the pages for the 1980s through 1992. Frank
Jonker wrote a great portion of the stories in the 1990s.

The Brasilian covers printed in Holland must be the 2 that you explained
were shown for infomational purposes. There were 5-7 stories listed with B
codes that I interpreted as having been printed in Holland fromentries by
story crossreferencing. Perhaps I made a mistake there. I am traveling
now, and cannot use my friends' internet connection to check this.

Sorry for the misinformation. I will take much more careful notes and
quote sources from now on.

Rob klein

Rob Klein:

>Sorry for the misinformation. I will take much more
>careful notes and quote sources from now on.

No need to apologize, Rob, I welcome all your inputs,
including the few errors that we all make from time to
time. It's a chat forum, and it's great to hear from
so many duck fans.

Lene
Egmont manager, Sweden

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Hi,

Is anybody (besides Don Rosa) going to the convention in Luxembourg this
weekend? I will be there on Saturday.

Kind regards,

Arthur de Wolf
Rotterdam - The Netherlands.

Please Jenny check

http://mailotron.forez.com/livia/backup.php3

Regards

Favio

>I really want to read the disney comics but I don't know>
>how to access them you are sending me the same things>
>everyday but none say to read the disney comics click
>here> I just wanted to read. Not get the runaround thanks.

I wonder what the price level for the usual Disney comic is in different
countries.
In Sweden we have a weekly Kalle Anka & c:o (Donald Duck and company)
that is 64 pages full colour and costs just about 2 US $.
What is the usual Disney comic in your countries and what does it cost ?

Ola in a now cooler Stockholm +19 and quite comfy

Hi everyone!

The date collected here is based on the latest issues
I have; all are in color from cover to cover.
The price in euro is on the cover, except the Mickey Parade
I have; $1 is about 7.8F now.
Everything is summed up in a table at the end.

* * * * * * * * * * Le Journal de Mickey (# 2552) * * * * * * * * * *
9,80 F / 1,5 e / $ 1.25
68 p (covers included; wrap-around "Dinosaur" cover)
2p (covers)
1 p ("Donald Speaks English", 4-panel "story")
32 p (Disney comics) (12, 6, 12, 1, 1)
7 p (non-Disney comics)
9 p (ads)
6 p (games)
11 p (miscellaneous-- contents, so-called "articles", letters, ...)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
33 interesting pages (comics + page in English):
48.53 % (4.75 F / 0.72 e / $ 0.6)

* * * * * * * * * * * * Picsou Magazine (# 354) * * * * * * * * * * * *
19 F / 2,9 e / $ 2.45
148 p (covers included; Donald from a Barks cover)
2p (covers)
86 p (Disney comics) (18, 24, 10, 10, 10, 14)
0.5 p (3 Taliaferro dailies) (included in the games)
15 p (ads)
6 p (games)
39 p (miscellaneous-- contents, so-called "articles" & "art", ...)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
86 interesting pages (all Barks, sometimes 1 Don Rosa story):
58.11 % (11 F / 1.68 e / $ 1.42)

* * * * * * * * * * * Super Picsou G?ant (# 103) * * * * * * * * * * *
25 F / 3.80 e / $ 3.20
196 p (covers included; nice)
2p (covers; soft, but harder than LJdM & PM)
150 p (Disney comics) (25, 8, 10, 16, 9, 10, 1, 15,
1, 1, 30, 1, 8, 3, 7, 4, 1)
12 p (ads)
15 p (games)
17 p (miscellaneous-- contents, so-called "articles", jokes, ...)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
150 interesting pages (comics)
(sometimes 1 page about the main story):
76,53 % (19 F / 2.9 e / $ 2.45)

* * * * * * * * * * * * Mickey Parade (# 220) * * * * * * * * * * * *
15 F / 2.28 e / $ 1.90
196 p (covers included)
2p (covers; soft, but harder than LJdM & PM)
166 p (Disney comics) (24, 28, 32, 31, 27, 24)
2 p (on Romano Scarpa, by Luca Boschi!)
(a most exceptional feature, I believe)
8 p (ads)
16 p (games)
2 p (miscellaneous-- contents, so-called "articles", jokes, ...)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
168 interesting pages (comics + 2-p article by Luca!):
85.71 % (12.85 F / 1.95 e / $ 1.63)

Let's have a looks at a couple of Gladstone comics now...

* * * * * * * * * * * * * WDC&S (597) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$ 1.50
36 p
2 p (covers)
27 p (Disney comics) (10, 12, 4, 1)
1 p (letters)
6 p (ads; 1 bc, counted as a cover)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
27 interesting pages
(Gottfredson, Taliaferro, Barks, Don Rosa, Van Horn
often featured) (articles sometimes, too)
75 % ($ 1)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * U$ (306) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$ 1.95
36 p
2 p (covers)
29p (Disney comics) (23, 6)
2 p (letters; here, 1 is a parting note, the other a fan's drawing)
4 p (ads; 1 bc, counted as a cover)
1 p (letters)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
29 interesting pages
(Barks, Don Rosa, Van Horn frequent features)
(articles as well, sometimes)
80.55 % ($ 1.57)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * DDA (43) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$ 1.50
32 p
2 p (covers)
27 p (Disney comics) (24, 1, 1, 1)
3 p (ads; 1 bc, counted as a cover)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
27 interesting pages
(Taliaferro, Barks, Don Rosa, Van Horn often featured)
(articles sometimes, too)
84.37 % ($ 1.26)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * U$A (51) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$ 1.95
36 p
2 p (covers)
28 p (Disney comics) (28)
2 p (article)
3 p (ads; 1 bc, counted as a cover)
1 p (letters)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
30 interesting pages
(Taliaferro, Barks, Don Rosa, Van Horn frequently featured)
(articles as well, sometimes)
83.33 % ($ 1.62)

And here are the last two Gladstone issues...

* * * * * * * * * * * * * WDC&S (633) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$ 6.95
68 p ("prestige format")
3 p (covers + title page; gorgeous; rare items)
56 p (Disney comics) (8, 11, 10, 27)
7 p (genuine, most interesting articles on comics)
2 p (letters; here, 1 is a parting note, the other is part
of the last article; so "Contents" is counted here)
0 p (ads)
0 p (games-- though in this one issue there is a trivia quiz
at the bottom of the pages + a flipbook animation)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
68 interesting pages
(including covers, which 95+?% of the time are great features
in themselves) (Gottfredson, Taliaferro, Barks, Don Rosa,
Van Horn are rather regular features)
100 % ($ 6.95)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * U$ (318) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
$ 6.95
68 p ("prestige format")
3 p (covers + title page; gorgeous; rare items)
47p (Disney comics) (24, 3, 4, 19)
10 p (real, most interesting articles on comics)
2 p (letters; here, 1 is a parting note, the other a fan's drawing)
2 p (ad for a porcelain)
1 p (contents)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
68 interesting pages
(including covers, which 95+?% of the time are great features
in themselves) (Barks, Don Rosa, Van Horn frequent features)
(granted, the conference pages are less interesting, but in the
any other issue it would have been a "Year That Was" or something):
100 % ($ 6.95)

Let's sum up all this in a table (prices in $)...

Title p price int p % price for these

LJdM 68 1.25 33 48.53 0.6
PM 148 2.45 86 58.11 1.42
SPG 196 3.20 150 76.53 2.45
MP 196 1.90 168 85.71 1.63

WDC&S 36 1.50 27 75 1
U$ 36 1.95 29 80.55 1.57
DDA 32 1.50 27 84.37 1.26
U$A 36 1.95 30 83.33 1.62

WDC&S* 68 6.95 68 100 6.95
U$* 68 6.95 68 100 6.95

Bear in mind the % is that of Disney comics & "articles":
it is purely quantitative and not qualitative.

Olivier
(cooler in Paris, now)

>I wonder if any of our Finnish friends on this list can translate >them ?

I looked at the other translations and some of them are quite strange.
I won't start guessing what the artist has ment with these titles and I just
translate them straight:

>Väärin sytytetty ja sammutettu
Wrongly lit and put out

>Janoinen merellä
Thirsty at sea

>Uudet outoudet
New oddnesses

>Ola in a pleasantly warm Stockholm +20 and sunny

Petri in Helsinki, +20 and almost sunny
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