Daniel:
>>Have there been other stories with Disney characters ending up in jail
>>around this time? (Before and after WDC 50?)
Three stories I recal-- not jailed *at the end* of the story though.
"Volcano Valley" (DD FC 147, May '47)
WDC&S 168 ("Cheltenham's Choice", Sept '54, Album 26):
A big-mouthed mynah Donald just bought insults a policeman
and flies away and the ducks are sent to jail:
"This is a case of rank *injustice*!"
WDC&S 176 ("The Ghost Sheriff of Last Gasp", May '55, Album 28):
The ducks get trapped in the jail.
The motif of imprisonment & its variations are quite recurrent throughout
the ducks' adventures and would be intereseting to study:
"Volcano Valley" & "Lost in the Andes", deep-diving (in the sphere, WDC&S 177),
in the Cathedral's organ ("Phantom of Notre-Duck"), locked out of the Bin
("Forbidium Money Bin"), ...
Olivier
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Topic: 200107
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Olivier
Jail stories
Message 61 -
2001-07-09 at 15:16:59
Petri Kanninen
Death in Disney comics
Message 62 -
2001-07-09 at 16:21:32
DANIEL:
>What about animals being killed?
There was some discussion about deaths in Disney comics on the Finnish
comics newsgroup. Tommi Perkola collected those we came up with.
http://www.uta.fi/~matope/ankkakuolo/ (in Finnish only)
Here are examples from the page: (Italian)
In "Paperino e il misterioso Mister Moster" (I TL 108-A) Mister Moster's
laboratory blows up while he's inside.
In "Paperino e il vaso rosso dei Ming" (I TL 1015-A) Scrooge-pirate forces
one of his Beagle Boy crew members to jump to a sea full of sharks.
In "Topolino e i fantasmi neri" (I TL 466-B) two of Clarabelle's uncles have
an accident with a helicopter and die. This happens in an episode drawn by
Perego (otherwise the story is drawn by Carpi) so I don't know if the scene
is in the original publications.
In "Paperino e la leggenda dello Scozzese Volante" (I TL 174-A) the Angus
McDuck (or his ghost) leaves this world. Well, he died at some stage anyway.
In "Topolino e la spada di ghiaccio" (I TL 1411-B, the Ice Sword story) the
bad guy gets it at the end.
Then two animal deaths:
In "Paperino e l'isola delle scimmie afflitte" (I TL 190-A) two monkeys eat
gunpowder and jump on ducks' boat and explode.
In "Zio Paperone e il trapianto della pituitaria" (I TL 811-A) a dog is
killed. It doesn't happen during the story but in the text it says that the
criminals killed it during their last attack. BTW. This is a very weird
story: US gets somekind of allergy for gold and he gets new nose mucous from
the dead dog.
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>What about animals being killed?
There was some discussion about deaths in Disney comics on the Finnish
comics newsgroup. Tommi Perkola collected those we came up with.
http://www.uta.fi/~matope/ankkakuolo/ (in Finnish only)
Here are examples from the page: (Italian)
In "Paperino e il misterioso Mister Moster" (I TL 108-A) Mister Moster's
laboratory blows up while he's inside.
In "Paperino e il vaso rosso dei Ming" (I TL 1015-A) Scrooge-pirate forces
one of his Beagle Boy crew members to jump to a sea full of sharks.
In "Topolino e i fantasmi neri" (I TL 466-B) two of Clarabelle's uncles have
an accident with a helicopter and die. This happens in an episode drawn by
Perego (otherwise the story is drawn by Carpi) so I don't know if the scene
is in the original publications.
In "Paperino e la leggenda dello Scozzese Volante" (I TL 174-A) the Angus
McDuck (or his ghost) leaves this world. Well, he died at some stage anyway.
In "Topolino e la spada di ghiaccio" (I TL 1411-B, the Ice Sword story) the
bad guy gets it at the end.
Then two animal deaths:
In "Paperino e l'isola delle scimmie afflitte" (I TL 190-A) two monkeys eat
gunpowder and jump on ducks' boat and explode.
In "Zio Paperone e il trapianto della pituitaria" (I TL 811-A) a dog is
killed. It doesn't happen during the story but in the text it says that the
criminals killed it during their last attack. BTW. This is a very weird
story: US gets somekind of allergy for gold and he gets new nose mucous from
the dead dog.
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Dutch Panchito strips
Message 63 -
2001-07-09 at 16:36:04
Rob Klein:
> Perhaps some
> of the editors at Oberon had seen some of the Brasilian
> stories in the late
> 1970s that inspired the renaissance of Jose C. (new Dutch
> production) in
> the Dutch Weekly, and the printing of the Panchito strips.
> Harry, can you help us on this question?
I am convinced that the Dutch never looked at a Brazilian story when they
decided to reprint the old USA newspaper strips.
And the Dutch production is clearly based on those newspaper strips. This
goes for Carioca as well as for Panchito.
> information regarding the Dutch Jose Carioca
> production: In the 1980s, Wilma van den Bosch did most of the story
> writing, along with much from Ruud Straatman.
Then how come that Ruud Straatman was the only one credited, for ALL the
longer Carioca stories? Wilma only did two very short stories (and maybe 2
gags that were attributed to "redactie DD").
Wilma didn't do any Carioca stories in the 1990s.
> Mau and Bas Heymans have also drawn several during the [1990s]
Bas drew one. Mau only drew a "special" DD story where lots of characters
appeared, including Carioca.
> several Brasilian cover drawings were reprinted.
As far as I know, covers were *always* made in Holland. If they used a
Brazilian gag, they must have redrawn the artwork. But I have no indications
for that.
(There were 2 occasions in 1994 where a Brazilian cover was used: in both
cases, the cover was printed as a Brazilian cover, and was part of an
article about Brazil or Carioca.)
> Several short Brasilian stories were also reprinted.
I don't know of *any* Brazilian Carioca story reprinted in Holland!
> Harry-anything you can add? - (of ben je met vacantie?)
Can you come with more detailed information? Like sources?
--Harry.
(not reading e-mail during weekends)
> Perhaps some
> of the editors at Oberon had seen some of the Brasilian
> stories in the late
> 1970s that inspired the renaissance of Jose C. (new Dutch
> production) in
> the Dutch Weekly, and the printing of the Panchito strips.
> Harry, can you help us on this question?
I am convinced that the Dutch never looked at a Brazilian story when they
decided to reprint the old USA newspaper strips.
And the Dutch production is clearly based on those newspaper strips. This
goes for Carioca as well as for Panchito.
> information regarding the Dutch Jose Carioca
> production: In the 1980s, Wilma van den Bosch did most of the story
> writing, along with much from Ruud Straatman.
Then how come that Ruud Straatman was the only one credited, for ALL the
longer Carioca stories? Wilma only did two very short stories (and maybe 2
gags that were attributed to "redactie DD").
Wilma didn't do any Carioca stories in the 1990s.
> Mau and Bas Heymans have also drawn several during the [1990s]
Bas drew one. Mau only drew a "special" DD story where lots of characters
appeared, including Carioca.
> several Brasilian cover drawings were reprinted.
As far as I know, covers were *always* made in Holland. If they used a
Brazilian gag, they must have redrawn the artwork. But I have no indications
for that.
(There were 2 occasions in 1994 where a Brazilian cover was used: in both
cases, the cover was printed as a Brazilian cover, and was part of an
article about Brazil or Carioca.)
> Several short Brasilian stories were also reprinted.
I don't know of *any* Brazilian Carioca story reprinted in Holland!
> Harry-anything you can add? - (of ben je met vacantie?)
Can you come with more detailed information? Like sources?
--Harry.
(not reading e-mail during weekends)
Ola Martinsson
When did the first dutch stories begin ?
Message 64 -
2001-07-09 at 17:10:27
In the latest number of the Swedish weekly there are two dutch stories
with story code H771 and H772. Are these the first two stories done in
Holland ? One is drawn by Jippes and Matena and the other one by Jippes
and DeJonge if I remember correctly. Does anyone know in what way they
divided the work between them ? Did e.g. Jippes sketch and the other ink
or what ?
Ola in still very warm Stockholm +30 and sweaty
with story code H771 and H772. Are these the first two stories done in
Holland ? One is drawn by Jippes and Matena and the other one by Jippes
and DeJonge if I remember correctly. Does anyone know in what way they
divided the work between them ? Did e.g. Jippes sketch and the other ink
or what ?
Ola in still very warm Stockholm +30 and sweaty
Rob And Nancy McCallum
Time and date of Barks Tribute at San Diego Comic Con?
Message 65 -
2001-07-09 at 17:49:32
I'm still trying to find out the exact time and date of the Barks Tribute
Panel at this year's San Diego Comic Con and they do not respond to my
repeated requests for this information. If any one one has a definitive
answer please post it on the DCML?
Rob McCallum
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repeated requests for this information. If any one one has a definitive
answer please post it on the DCML?
Rob McCallum
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Fluks, H.W.
When did the first dutch stories begin ?
Message 66 -
2001-07-09 at 18:19:04
Ola:
> In the latest number of the Swedish weekly there are two dutch stories
> with story code H771 and H772. Are these the first two stories done in
> Holland ?
No, but they are the first and second Wolf story done in Holland in 1977 (if
you are referring to Wolf stories, that is). The actual codes should have
been H-W-771 and H-W-772; apparently Egmont chose to remove the "W" from the
code.
Dutch production started in 1953. See my "Bolderbast" website for more
information:
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/bolderbast/xph.html
(This website also has information about producktion in other countries.)
> One is drawn by Jippes and Matena and the other one
> by Jippes
> and DeJonge if I remember correctly. Does anyone know in what way they
> divided the work between them ? Did e.g. Jippes sketch and
> the other ink or what ?
Jippes was mostly responsible for the layout of the stories. He also was a
"coach" to the other artists.
(Currently Eddy van Schuijlenburg has that function in Holland. He recently
told me that "Art director" is not a good name for his function, though many
people use that.)
BTW, what do DCML people think of those Dutch Wolf stories?
> still very warm Stockholm +30 and sweaty
After a few thunderstorms and a rainy Sunday, things are getting a bit
cooler here in Holland.
--Harry.
> In the latest number of the Swedish weekly there are two dutch stories
> with story code H771 and H772. Are these the first two stories done in
> Holland ?
No, but they are the first and second Wolf story done in Holland in 1977 (if
you are referring to Wolf stories, that is). The actual codes should have
been H-W-771 and H-W-772; apparently Egmont chose to remove the "W" from the
code.
Dutch production started in 1953. See my "Bolderbast" website for more
information:
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/bolderbast/xph.html
(This website also has information about producktion in other countries.)
> One is drawn by Jippes and Matena and the other one
> by Jippes
> and DeJonge if I remember correctly. Does anyone know in what way they
> divided the work between them ? Did e.g. Jippes sketch and
> the other ink or what ?
Jippes was mostly responsible for the layout of the stories. He also was a
"coach" to the other artists.
(Currently Eddy van Schuijlenburg has that function in Holland. He recently
told me that "Art director" is not a good name for his function, though many
people use that.)
BTW, what do DCML people think of those Dutch Wolf stories?
> still very warm Stockholm +30 and sweaty
After a few thunderstorms and a rainy Sunday, things are getting a bit
cooler here in Holland.
--Harry.
Luca Boschi
Dutch Caballeros
Message 67 -
2001-07-09 at 19:05:36
Hi, Harry and all!
> After a few thunderstorms and a rainy Sunday, things are getting a bit
> cooler here in Holland.
WHEW! In Italy, too.
Recently, we are talking about dutch Panchito and Jose stories... I'd like
to know something more about this matter. How many stories there are with
the two characters (together, alone and with Donald - maybe), and who wrote
and drew them?
I'm interested in this matter because in Italy the "3 Caballeros" Walt Kelly
story was appreciated very much by the readers, and the same (I assume)
shall happen next week, when the Don Rosa's "Ride Again" story shall hit the
newsstands.
In the next month, maybe that some old 3 Caballeros made in Italy stories
shall see the light again.
Thiese stories are not based on the sunday pages, because they were quite
unknown; unpublished and not even known by the story men. I'll inform you
when (and IF) they are in the newsstands, in Italy...
Thanks!
Luca
> After a few thunderstorms and a rainy Sunday, things are getting a bit
> cooler here in Holland.
WHEW! In Italy, too.
Recently, we are talking about dutch Panchito and Jose stories... I'd like
to know something more about this matter. How many stories there are with
the two characters (together, alone and with Donald - maybe), and who wrote
and drew them?
I'm interested in this matter because in Italy the "3 Caballeros" Walt Kelly
story was appreciated very much by the readers, and the same (I assume)
shall happen next week, when the Don Rosa's "Ride Again" story shall hit the
newsstands.
In the next month, maybe that some old 3 Caballeros made in Italy stories
shall see the light again.
Thiese stories are not based on the sunday pages, because they were quite
unknown; unpublished and not even known by the story men. I'll inform you
when (and IF) they are in the newsstands, in Italy...
Thanks!
Luca
Fluks, H.W.
Dutch Caballeros
Message 68 -
2001-07-09 at 20:02:38
Luca:
> Recently, we are talking about dutch Panchito and Jose
> stories... I'd like
> to know something more about this matter. How many stories
> there are with
> the two characters (together, alone and with Donald - maybe),
> and who wrote and drew them?
Note that none of the Dutch stories feature *both* Carioca and Panchito.
Except for an occasional "guest appearance", the characters live in separate
worlds!
I think people would like to read the old USA newspaper strips (Carioca as
well as Panchito). The Dutch editors may have 4-tier ("comicified") copies
of that.
And after that, readers may find the Dutch 22-page Carioca stories
interesting. The shorter Dutch stories (2 to 5 pages) are uninteresting,
IMO.
Here's a complete list of the longer Dutch Carioca stories. Every story
copes with one or more Brazilian stereotypes - in a very funny way (though
maybe not always flattering to Brazilians):
H 83049 Een vagebond op het slechte pad (organised crime)
H 83080 Een vagebond als president (politics/revolutions, 21 pages)
H 84126 Een vagebond als topvoetballer (football)
H 84127 Een vagebond als lotgenoot (national lotteries)
H 85114 Een vagebond zet de bloemetjes buiten (carnival, if I'm not
mistaken)
H 90182 Joe Carioca als goudzoeker (gold rush)
H 91073 Joe Carioca op de Olympische Spelen (Olympic games)
All except one are 22 pages, all stories are written by Ruud Straatman, and
drawn by Jos? Colomer Fonts.
--Harry.
> Recently, we are talking about dutch Panchito and Jose
> stories... I'd like
> to know something more about this matter. How many stories
> there are with
> the two characters (together, alone and with Donald - maybe),
> and who wrote and drew them?
Note that none of the Dutch stories feature *both* Carioca and Panchito.
Except for an occasional "guest appearance", the characters live in separate
worlds!
I think people would like to read the old USA newspaper strips (Carioca as
well as Panchito). The Dutch editors may have 4-tier ("comicified") copies
of that.
And after that, readers may find the Dutch 22-page Carioca stories
interesting. The shorter Dutch stories (2 to 5 pages) are uninteresting,
IMO.
Here's a complete list of the longer Dutch Carioca stories. Every story
copes with one or more Brazilian stereotypes - in a very funny way (though
maybe not always flattering to Brazilians):
H 83049 Een vagebond op het slechte pad (organised crime)
H 83080 Een vagebond als president (politics/revolutions, 21 pages)
H 84126 Een vagebond als topvoetballer (football)
H 84127 Een vagebond als lotgenoot (national lotteries)
H 85114 Een vagebond zet de bloemetjes buiten (carnival, if I'm not
mistaken)
H 90182 Joe Carioca als goudzoeker (gold rush)
H 91073 Joe Carioca op de Olympische Spelen (Olympic games)
All except one are 22 pages, all stories are written by Ruud Straatman, and
drawn by Jos? Colomer Fonts.
--Harry.
Rob And Nancy McCallum
Time and date of Barks Tribute at San Diego Comic Con Update
Message 69 -
2001-07-09 at 20:10:21
They just posted the schedule. Here it is! I will forward it to DCML.
Thank you for unbelievably fast response!
Rob McCallum
They just posted the schedule. here it is
Friday, July 20 2:30 PM
A Tribute to Carl Barks ? A group of his friends and associates remember the
man who gave us Uncle $crooge, Gladstone Gander and hundreds of the best
comic book stories ever created. We're going to gather to tell Carl Barks
stories and invite the audience to share their favorite memories of the man
and/or his work. Up on the dais, you'll find Russ Cochran, and Bruce
Hamilton (publishers), Byron Erickson (Edgmont Publishing), R.C. Harvey
(cartoonist and comic strip historian), Russell Myers (creator of
Broom-Hilda), and Don Rosa (Duck Artist Supreme). Moderated by Mark Evanier.
Room 8
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They just posted the schedule. here it is
Friday, July 20 2:30 PM
A Tribute to Carl Barks ? A group of his friends and associates remember the
man who gave us Uncle $crooge, Gladstone Gander and hundreds of the best
comic book stories ever created. We're going to gather to tell Carl Barks
stories and invite the audience to share their favorite memories of the man
and/or his work. Up on the dais, you'll find Russ Cochran, and Bruce
Hamilton (publishers), Byron Erickson (Edgmont Publishing), R.C. Harvey
(cartoonist and comic strip historian), Russell Myers (creator of
Broom-Hilda), and Don Rosa (Duck Artist Supreme). Moderated by Mark Evanier.
Room 8
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When did the first dutch stories begin ?
Message 70 -
2001-07-09 at 20:12:48
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 9 juli 2001 17:19
Subject: RE: When did the first dutch stories begin ?
> No, but they are the first and second Wolf story done in Holland in 1977
(if
> you are referring to Wolf stories, that is). The actual codes should have
> been H-W-771 and H-W-772; apparently Egmont chose to remove the "W" from
the
> code.
The printed codes are in fact H/W/771 and H/DD/772. The second wolf story is
not a wolf story, but a duck story. The Inducks lists this:
H 77dd02 3 TRo -> DD [desc-nl:piano versjouwen]
| [art:DJi(layout),MdJ] [pubdate:1977-08-
| 12]
| nl: DD1977-32
| se: 2001-28 (Ett litet klavertramp)
H 77w01 5 WPl DMa BW [desc-nl:hitte] [pubdate:1977-07-22]
| nl: DD1977-29,KBW3 7
| se: 2001-28 (Varm varg)
Stefan
From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 9 juli 2001 17:19
Subject: RE: When did the first dutch stories begin ?
> No, but they are the first and second Wolf story done in Holland in 1977
(if
> you are referring to Wolf stories, that is). The actual codes should have
> been H-W-771 and H-W-772; apparently Egmont chose to remove the "W" from
the
> code.
The printed codes are in fact H/W/771 and H/DD/772. The second wolf story is
not a wolf story, but a duck story. The Inducks lists this:
H 77dd02 3 TRo -> DD [desc-nl:piano versjouwen]
| [art:DJi(layout),MdJ] [pubdate:1977-08-
| 12]
| nl: DD1977-32
| se: 2001-28 (Ett litet klavertramp)
H 77w01 5 WPl DMa BW [desc-nl:hitte] [pubdate:1977-07-22]
| nl: DD1977-29,KBW3 7
| se: 2001-28 (Varm varg)
Stefan
Luca Boschi
R: Dutch Caballeros
Message 71 -
2001-07-10 at 01:08:45
Thank you, Harry, for the Carioca and Panchito's lists infos!
Luca
Luca
HorizonHse
DCML digest, Vol 1 #600 - 11 msgs
Message 72 -
2001-07-10 at 02:52:03
hi, all.
it always seemed that science fiction stories in uncle scrooge were a nice change of pace from treasure hunts and money bin assaults. they weren't very often, but they're some of the best -- and a couple of the worst -- of the series, including:
#24 -- the 24 cxarat moon
#29 -- island in the sky
#34 -- mythic mystery
#46 -- lost beneath the sea
#49 -- looney lunar gold rush
#53 -- interplanetary postman
#65 -- micro ducks from outer space
disneyland birthday party -- the forbidium money bin
depending on how someone defines sci fi, there are other stories as well, such as the magic ink, the anti-cabbage fumes machine, the sticky money glue. but these others are the ones that dealt with space travel or space visitors.
i remember at least donald had rocketing around the world in wdc. did he have others in donald duck or other comics?
by the way, for anyone who doesn't know and actually cares, in english witch hazel is the name of both a shrub native to eastern north america and an over-the-counter remedy for brusies and sprains (although not recognized in pharmacy as having much value.
regards,
william price
236 west portal #450
san francisco, ca
it always seemed that science fiction stories in uncle scrooge were a nice change of pace from treasure hunts and money bin assaults. they weren't very often, but they're some of the best -- and a couple of the worst -- of the series, including:
#24 -- the 24 cxarat moon
#29 -- island in the sky
#34 -- mythic mystery
#46 -- lost beneath the sea
#49 -- looney lunar gold rush
#53 -- interplanetary postman
#65 -- micro ducks from outer space
disneyland birthday party -- the forbidium money bin
depending on how someone defines sci fi, there are other stories as well, such as the magic ink, the anti-cabbage fumes machine, the sticky money glue. but these others are the ones that dealt with space travel or space visitors.
i remember at least donald had rocketing around the world in wdc. did he have others in donald duck or other comics?
by the way, for anyone who doesn't know and actually cares, in english witch hazel is the name of both a shrub native to eastern north america and an over-the-counter remedy for brusies and sprains (although not recognized in pharmacy as having much value.
regards,
william price
236 west portal #450
san francisco, ca
Ritmic
DCML digest, Vol 1 #567 - 13 msgs
Message 73 -
2001-07-10 at 09:29:49
why are so many of the digests now coming through as MIME files? Is this an
artifact of the server? or something from my end of the deal? It really is
kind of a nuisance to have to download the file and then have to download
each letter individually. Help! :) Thanks!
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artifact of the server? or something from my end of the deal? It really is
kind of a nuisance to have to download the file and then have to download
each letter individually. Help! :) Thanks!
Michael Feldman
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Francois Willot
Italian new "blue" book on R. Scarpa
Message 74 -
2001-07-10 at 16:10:54
A new book about Romano Scarpa was recently published in Italy.
Does anyone know where to write to order it from Europe, and what is the
price? And is there any additional info on this book?
If someone's willing to trade comics for it, just send me a mail.
Thank you.
Francois
Does anyone know where to write to order it from Europe, and what is the
price? And is there any additional info on this book?
If someone's willing to trade comics for it, just send me a mail.
Thank you.
Francois
Francesco Spreafico
Italian new "blue" book on R. Scarpa
Message 75 -
2001-07-10 at 16:26:15
From: "Francois Willot" <Willot.Francois at ec-lille.fr>
> Does anyone know where to write to order it from Europe, and what is the
> price? And is there any additional info on this book?
For additional info check:
"My" page (in Italian) http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo/calidornia/index.htm
Eta's page (in English)
http://www.eega.net/last/z_misc/calidornia/caldream.html
The publisher's page
http://www.pavesioproductions.com/pubblicazioni/scarpa.htm
And from the publisher's home page
http://www.pavesioproductions.com/homepage.htm you can order it online
(click on "Acquisti online" and then "information", they ship everywhere,
but "information" is also provided in English, so just read there :-)
It costs 29.05 Euro, + (to France) 6.7 Euro.
And it's definitely worth its cost!
--
Sprea
> Does anyone know where to write to order it from Europe, and what is the
> price? And is there any additional info on this book?
For additional info check:
"My" page (in Italian) http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo/calidornia/index.htm
Eta's page (in English)
http://www.eega.net/last/z_misc/calidornia/caldream.html
The publisher's page
http://www.pavesioproductions.com/pubblicazioni/scarpa.htm
And from the publisher's home page
http://www.pavesioproductions.com/homepage.htm you can order it online
(click on "Acquisti online" and then "information", they ship everywhere,
but "information" is also provided in English, so just read there :-)
It costs 29.05 Euro, + (to France) 6.7 Euro.
And it's definitely worth its cost!
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Sprea