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Hi to all.

My name is Francesco I'm italian and I'm a passionate of Disney Comics.
I have got 22 years old and that's first time that I write in this ML but I red your message about 3 month ago.
I red Disney Comics from 1985 in august and first number that I remember bought was Topolino n. 1555.
I worked in Disney in 1997 for some pages of special about Lo$ called "Duck".

I'd like tell you that I open a new Disney site about a famous collaborator of Disney Italia. His name is LUCIANO GATTO and he was first collaborator at ink of Romano Scarpa.
He came from Venice and he draws (and little write) near 400 tales from 1958.

For my web page GATTO help me with a lot information and some unpubblishing works that I pubblish in future in this site.

In Italian GATTO mean Cat and he draw from 20 years 1 cat in his history.

If you want see and know this drawer you can go to url http://digilander.iol.it/lucianogatto

There is a little problem: now this site in all in Italian but I'd like translate in English when I can do it.

Excuse me for my English... It isn't wery well.

Bye Francesco.

Hi, Francesco!

>>I worked in Disney in 1997 for some pages
>>of special about Lo$ called "Duck".

What do you mean?
You wrote a column about L&T that was entitled "Duck",
and which was published by Disney in the corresponding
magazines?
That's interesting. Do you intend to include it in your site
(event though it's not about Gatto)?

Olivier
http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/

Interesting page! But why does
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/comic.asp?comicid=211 say that the name of the
magazine is "MICKEY MOUSE", when it's clearly written "Dizunii" (Disney)
(see the big, red characters) on the cover?

And why is "http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/comic.asp?comicid=211" listed as
"Winnie the Pooh," when it says "Kuma-no-Puu-san" on the cover?

http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/comic.asp?comicid=359 says: "Disney Fan seems to
be produced by a company called Kodansha." K?dansha is a book/manga
publisher. Try to search for "講談社" for further
information.

>From: "Kenneth Glendinning" <neth80 at hotmail.com>
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Uk Aust Comics
>Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 00:35:07 +1000
>
>Hello John all comic titles can be looked up at DISNEY COMICS WORLDWIDE
>http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/index.asp
>It shows all known disney comics that have been published from all over the
>world.
>
>Kenneth
>
>
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:33:46 -0500
>From: "John Crocker" <John.Crocker at dvn.com>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: Re: Disney comics in the US
>
>Hello,
>
><<Can anyone here tell me where I can find recent Disney
>comics?>>
>
>I am interested in the answer to this question, but also am in wonder of
>where
>and how I could possibly get a hold of foreign Disney comics (foreign to me
>that
>is since I live in the US) that are in English. I believe that the UK and
>Australia have some English publications and have heard that there may be
>some
>in Asia.
>Does anyone have any information about this?
>
>thanks,
>
>-john from Oklahoma where it is a perspirating 102 F (appx. 39 C)
>
>
>
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Here's what's in this month's issue of Komix:

* Cover by Carl Barks. I have put a scan at
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix158.jpg
* A two-page letters column. In an inset titled "a year without Carl Barks"
they remind us of the sad anniversary, and they show a drawing by Albert
Uderzo, showing Asterix, "who did not bow to Caesar himself", bowing in
front of a golden statue of uncle Scrooge. I've put a copy of that in
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix158a.jpg
* A two-page "news of Komix" article.
* Don's "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff". This is a strange printing: The
top half of page nine seems to have been produced from a low resolution
scan, and there is a footnote saying that "The first five panels of
this page had been removed to divide the story into two parts. We put
them back in." Then, page 17 begins with what is obviously a recap
from the multi-part version, missing the five panels that are present
in the Gladstone version, and make the story make a lot more sense at
that point. I know that Komix is in constant touch with Don, who keeps
sending them tips on how to best print his stories, because he knows
they care, so *why* do they keep making these horrible mistakes? Is
it so difficult to get the single-part version from Egmont, rather
than having to doctor the multi-part version?
* A three-page article titled "history, spectacle, and fairy tale",
subtitled "the heroes who created the myth of the Wild West". This
article makes up for the previous mix-up, as it gives all the historical
information required to understand Don's story.
* A two-page article titled "Scrooge in the Wild West", subtitled "Don Rosa
presents the vigilante of Pizen Bluff".
* Barks' "Swimming Swindlers".
* A three-page article titled "Mark and Sergio meet uncle Carl, subtitled "the
meeting of three great creators". This article talks about Mark Evanier and
Sergio Aragones' meeting with Carl Barks, using extracts from an article
from the September 2000 issue of the Comic Buyer's Guide, and acts as a link
between Disney comics and the next item, which is:
* The first installment of Mark Evanier and Sergio Aragones' "Space Circus".

Until today, I was only aware of Aragones' work for MAD magazine. The
first time I saw his work was in a book published by MAD magazine titled
"Viva MAD", which I found extremely hilarious, leaving me wanting
for more, which I found in the margins of MAD magazine. Despite
my reservations about the inappropriateness of Komix as a medium
for printing the Space Circus, I was looking forward to reading it.
Unfortunately, despite my prejudice in favor of the story, I found it
a BIG disappointment. There was none of the humor found in Aragones'
drawings for MAD magazine, and very little of any other kind of humor. As
for the plot, I found it as interesting as the Italian space adventures
with the Ducks, i.e., none at all. This stuff is simply filler material
for a Disney comic book. Perhaps the extra indication, "padded", on the
cover, was referring to that. What's worse, despite the padding of the
issue to 84 pages, there was substantially less Disney material than in
regular, 64-page, all-Disney issues. :(

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Blowing the occasional chunk out of the earth keeps them amused."
-----

Francesco Gerbaldo:

Is it "ok"? It is FINE! I like artist biographies more than scans ;-), and I
really appreciate that now I can know something more about Gatto, an
excellent artist which I've been reading for years.

My congratulations.

(BTW: I still can't see why Daisy is so annoyed)

Santiago.

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From: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
>>>Hi, Francesco!
>I worked in Disney in 1997 for some pages
>of special about Lo$ called "Duck".
>>>What do you mean?
You wrote a column about L&T that was entitled "Duck",
and which was published by Disney in the corresponding
magazines?

In case Francesco does not reply: he refers to the Italian limited-edition
book which contained my "Lo$" as well as other material about the series
and $crooge and me. The book title was "D.U.C.K." (which I hope you know
of?), and I think it was sold only at the Expocartoon comic fair in Rome
one year. The regular newsstand version had a better title! I guess the
assumption was that people at Expocartoon would already know what
"D.U.C.K." meant, but I think that was rather presumptuous...?

From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>
>>>> Don's "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff". This is a strange printing: ....
I know that Komix is in constant touch with Don, who keeps
sending them tips on how to best print his stories, because he knows
they care, so *why* do they keep making these horrible mistakes? Is
it so difficult to get the single-part version from Egmont, rather
than having to doctor the multi-part version?

I don't know what the errors are that you refer to until I get my copy, but
I would also wonder why errors would be made. I am answering every single
question they send me and send them any art they need to present my stories
properly. I naturally want to be proud of what I see in the pages of such a
nice looking comic.
But to answer you question of "Is it so difficult to get the single-part
version from Egmont?"... YES, it is. From what I am told by publishers,
even Egmont publishers, Copenhagen never sends out anything but the
serialized versions of my stories, even when the one-part versions are
*specifically* requested... and when they sometimes *do* send out the
requested one-part version, they often do not send out the matching script.
I am often contacted by desperate publishers, Egmont and non-Egmont, for
the correct versions of my stories who say it is easier, faster and safer
to get it through me than from Copenhagen.

>>>Despite
my reservations about the inappropriateness of Komix as a medium
for printing the Space Circus, I was looking forward to reading it.

I LOVE Sergio's work, always have since I was a tad, and he is one of the
ONLY friends I have ever made in the industry... he is one of the nicest
and most genuinely GOOD people I've ever come across. When I go to comic
conventions, I never "hang out" with other professionals... I still hang
around with the same people I always have, the other collectors of old
comics and the dealers in same. But I know three other "professionals"
simply because they are the only three American comic book people who get
invited to Europe and I often cross paths with them overseas -- Sergio,
Jeff Smith and Neil Gaiman. (I also know Mark Evanier well, but only
because I've always known him, since we were both jes' plain comics fans in
the 60's.) And though I love Sergio's work, I also do not like seeing it in
a Disney magazine. That seems to be a break in a tradition that I see no
reason to make. And it's also rather annoying that he and Mark are being
paid a royalty for the reprinting of their work inside the pages of KOMIX
even though none of the rest of us whose work is being reprinted in those
same pages are getting a red cent. That seems a bit insulting, y'know?
But the reason I mention Sergio is that I spent some time with him at his
table in San Diego last week, and I told him I thought it was interesting
that we would be sharing the pages of a comic book in Greece even though he
didn't do Disney stuff. And he was *totally unaware* of the fact that his
work was being put into a Disney comic title! He knew his work was being
used in Greece, but he did not know where or how it was being used. So...
we can't blame him for any of this!

To: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>

Thank you for telling Antonio about the place where he can always check for
info on my "Lo$" series (you said
http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/ and
http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage/englishindex.htm ). There's also
Dan Shane's site that he reminded us of the address for. As with
http://www.duckhunt.de/ , none of these are *my* websites -- I have no
reason to establish a website when these folks do a much better job of it.

A person who is writing a book about Jimi Hendrix asked the following:

"I understand that one of his songs entitled '3rd Stone from the Sun'
(aka Third Stone From The Sun) partly inspired a Donald Duck story
called 'Officer Of The Day' in a Donald Duck comic (specifically the
bit in Hendrix's song where aliens think chickens are earth's most
intelligent species). Is there any further information you can furnish
me with regarding this? Was Carl Barks a Hendrix fan?"

The message was forwarded to me by a Barks fan who had answered the
writer with this reply:

"I doubt very much that Barks ever was a Hendrix fan. I cannot remember a
single statement in which he expressed his fondness of Hendrix or of the
contemporary rock music. He was already 67 years old when he wrote "Officer
for a Day" and his attitude towards society was more on the conservative
side. In fact he more than once poked fun at artists and musicians of the
"beatnik" or "hippie" kind in his comics of the 60's - in a rather
sarcastical tone, I might add.

Of course it _might_ be possible that he heard the song on the radio and
found the line about the "superior cackling hen" funny enough to integrate
it into his comic story.

In the comic the exact words are, "The only _intelligent_ beings were the
ones with feathers in the wire cage!"

Since the wording is completely different, there is no clear evidence that
this part was really inspired by Hendrix' song. We will never know for sure,
I'm afraid ..."

- - - - - - -

I've searched for the lyrics of this Jimi Hendrix song. As I don't know
this Jimi Hendrix song myself, I cannot judge if the lyrics are correct
or complete:

- - - - - - -

Third Stone From The Sun
Words and Music by Jimi Hendrix
Copyright (c) 1967, 1996 Experience Hendrix, L.L.C.

Verse 1
Oh strange beautiful grass of green
with your majestic silken scenes
Your mysterious mountains
I wish to see closer
May I land my kinky machine

Verse 2
Although your world wonders me
with your majestic superior cackling hen
Your people I do not understand
So to you I wish to put an end
And you'll never hear surf music again

- - - - - - -

The song is from Hendrix' debut album, "Are you experienced?",
released in August 1967. I haven't searched for other releases,
so I don't know if the song was released as a single.

According to Barrier, Barks submitted "Officer For A Day" [DD 138]
on November 6, 1968. It was published in Donald Duck 138, with cover
date July 1969.

I was asked for my opinion and apart from being sceptical, the only
'possible' connections I could think of was that a fan might have
mentioned this Jimi Hendrix song to Carl Barks, or that both Barks
and Hendrix might independently have been inspired by an earlier
similar source.

Of course, there's always the possibility that Barks and Hendrix both
coincidentally thought of the same idea. The resemblance and connection
between Hendrix's song and Barks' story are discussable, but that is
exactly the reason why I bring it up here on this mailing list. :-)

Please let me know what you think of it.

- Daniel