Soren wrote:
> Just curious to know, what you (especially the Italians on this list)
> think about Enrico Faccini's art. I think he simply becomes better and
> better--one of the very best "newer" Italian artists IMO. I like the
> way he is inspired by the classic tradition (esp. Scarpa) but in
> contrast to others (Dalla Santa, Del Conte and more) this is
> so full of dynamic.
100% agree!
> He even writes stories as well.
And they are *good* stories, too. Unluckily, he produces Disney comics in
the spare time from his regular job, so we have to wait way too long between
one story and the next...
Ciao,
Armando
Author
Topic: 200110
(225 messages)
Botto Armando
Enrico Faccini
Message 136 -
2001-10-18 at 15:13:53
Ari Seppi
Enrico Faccini
Message 137 -
2001-10-18 at 16:54:25
Armando:
>Soren wrote:
> > Just curious to know, what you (especially the Italians on this list)
> > think about Enrico Faccini's art. I think he simply becomes better and
> > better--one of the very best "newer" Italian artists IMO. I like the
> > way he is inspired by the classic tradition (esp. Scarpa) but in
> > contrast to others (Dalla Santa, Del Conte and more) this is
> > so full of dynamic.
>100% agree!
Me too. I only have the most recent of his stories published in Finland
at hand (I TL 2344-5, Paperino e il rituale scaramantico), but based on
that his stories are funny.
All those rituals to drive away bad luck: hilarious.
--
Ari Seppi (mani at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Eritt?in fanaattinen Harry Potter -kirjojen ja Disney-sarjakuvien palvoja
>Soren wrote:
> > Just curious to know, what you (especially the Italians on this list)
> > think about Enrico Faccini's art. I think he simply becomes better and
> > better--one of the very best "newer" Italian artists IMO. I like the
> > way he is inspired by the classic tradition (esp. Scarpa) but in
> > contrast to others (Dalla Santa, Del Conte and more) this is
> > so full of dynamic.
>100% agree!
Me too. I only have the most recent of his stories published in Finland
at hand (I TL 2344-5, Paperino e il rituale scaramantico), but based on
that his stories are funny.
All those rituals to drive away bad luck: hilarious.
--
Ari Seppi (mani at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Eritt?in fanaattinen Harry Potter -kirjojen ja Disney-sarjakuvien palvoja
Francesco Spreafico
Enrico Faccini
Message 138 -
2001-10-18 at 17:09:08
Da: "S?ren Krarup Olesen" <raptus at stofanet.dk>
> Just curious to know, what you (especially the Italians on this list)
> think about Enrico Faccini's art.
I love it!
> I think he simply becomes better and
> better--one of the very best "newer" Italian artists IMO. I like the
> way he is inspired by the classic tradition (esp. Scarpa) but in
> contrast to others (Dalla Santa, Del Conte and more) this is so full of
> dynamic. He even writes stories as well.
Yes, I completely agree. The only think I don't really like is his inking,
way too thin for my tastes. But anyway I like his art and his writing.
--
Francesco
> Just curious to know, what you (especially the Italians on this list)
> think about Enrico Faccini's art.
I love it!
> I think he simply becomes better and
> better--one of the very best "newer" Italian artists IMO. I like the
> way he is inspired by the classic tradition (esp. Scarpa) but in
> contrast to others (Dalla Santa, Del Conte and more) this is so full of
> dynamic. He even writes stories as well.
Yes, I completely agree. The only think I don't really like is his inking,
way too thin for my tastes. But anyway I like his art and his writing.
--
Francesco
Søren Krarup Olesen
Enrico Faccini
Message 139 -
2001-10-18 at 17:27:20
SPREA:
> > I think he simply becomes better and
> > better--one of the very best "newer" Italian artists IMO. I like
> > the way he is inspired by the classic tradition (esp. Scarpa) but
> > in contrast to others (Dalla Santa, Del Conte and more) this is so
> > full of dynamic. He even writes stories as well.
>
> Yes, I completely agree. The only think I don't really like is his
> inking, way too thin for my tastes.
Really? This is one of the things I really like! It reminds me of
(among others) Chierchini in the sixties.
You just don't see that anymore. For example all Egmont pocket material
is inked with a fat pencil. Looks primitive in general and without
nuances. All IMO of course :-) (Looks like Faccini inked it himself)
S?ren
> > I think he simply becomes better and
> > better--one of the very best "newer" Italian artists IMO. I like
> > the way he is inspired by the classic tradition (esp. Scarpa) but
> > in contrast to others (Dalla Santa, Del Conte and more) this is so
> > full of dynamic. He even writes stories as well.
>
> Yes, I completely agree. The only think I don't really like is his
> inking, way too thin for my tastes.
Really? This is one of the things I really like! It reminds me of
(among others) Chierchini in the sixties.
You just don't see that anymore. For example all Egmont pocket material
is inked with a fat pencil. Looks primitive in general and without
nuances. All IMO of course :-) (Looks like Faccini inked it himself)
S?ren
Francesco Spreafico
Enrico Faccini
Message 140 -
2001-10-18 at 17:37:30
Da: "S?ren Krarup Olesen" <raptus at stofanet.dk>
> Really? This is one of the things I really like! It reminds me of
> (among others) Chierchini in the sixties.
I think Faccini's is much thinner than that! Chierchini used (uses) to ink
some things thinner than others (for example that line on ducks' beaks).
Anyway, if you like it, you're going to like Stefano Turconi's stories too
(even though Turconi has a inker, Roberta Zanotta, so the thin inks are her
"fault" not his ;-)
--
Sprea
> Really? This is one of the things I really like! It reminds me of
> (among others) Chierchini in the sixties.
I think Faccini's is much thinner than that! Chierchini used (uses) to ink
some things thinner than others (for example that line on ducks' beaks).
Anyway, if you like it, you're going to like Stefano Turconi's stories too
(even though Turconi has a inker, Roberta Zanotta, so the thin inks are her
"fault" not his ;-)
--
Sprea
Goofy313g
Quiz
Message 141 -
2001-10-18 at 19:31:40
right!
Gilles
Gilles
Sue And Gary Leach
Dark Horse Disney distribution
Message 142 -
2001-10-18 at 21:43:40
Hoy, Fabio:
A Disney comics distribution deal through Dark Horse, a la Gladstone/Marvel?
Won't happen. Dark Horse is doing Disney projects on a case-by-case basis,
and they have no interest at this time in doing a "line", which would the
only (barely) sane reason for A) buying the newsstand print runs of Disney
comics produced by another publisher and B) taking the resultant hit on
returns.
However, a deal where Dark Horse assumes the management of newsstand
distribution for Disney comics without buying the print runs outright might
not be out of the question. If they could even manage to make newsstand
distribution pay, more power to 'em, because if somebody could actually
figure that out, it would be a tremendous boon to the U.S. comics industry.
Gary
A Disney comics distribution deal through Dark Horse, a la Gladstone/Marvel?
Won't happen. Dark Horse is doing Disney projects on a case-by-case basis,
and they have no interest at this time in doing a "line", which would the
only (barely) sane reason for A) buying the newsstand print runs of Disney
comics produced by another publisher and B) taking the resultant hit on
returns.
However, a deal where Dark Horse assumes the management of newsstand
distribution for Disney comics without buying the print runs outright might
not be out of the question. If they could even manage to make newsstand
distribution pay, more power to 'em, because if somebody could actually
figure that out, it would be a tremendous boon to the U.S. comics industry.
Gary
Mark A. Semich
DCML digest, Vol 1 #705 - 9 msgs
Message 143 -
2001-10-19 at 17:06:24
Gary Leach <bangfish at cableone.net> wrote:
> A Disney comics distribution deal through Dark Horse, a la
> Gladstone/Marvel? Won't happen. Dark Horse is doing Disney projects on
> a case-by-case basis, and they have no interest at this time in doing
> a "line", which would the only (barely) sane reason for A) buying the
> newsstand print runs of Disney comics produced by another publisher
> and B) taking the resultant hit on returns.
Could a "case-by-case" basis include something like an occasional
graphic novel or mini-series of Don Rosa's new stories, or maybe of
other material that fans would be interested in?
- M
> A Disney comics distribution deal through Dark Horse, a la
> Gladstone/Marvel? Won't happen. Dark Horse is doing Disney projects on
> a case-by-case basis, and they have no interest at this time in doing
> a "line", which would the only (barely) sane reason for A) buying the
> newsstand print runs of Disney comics produced by another publisher
> and B) taking the resultant hit on returns.
Could a "case-by-case" basis include something like an occasional
graphic novel or mini-series of Don Rosa's new stories, or maybe of
other material that fans would be interested in?
- M
Stefan Persson
????! ?? ???????!
Message 144 -
2001-10-19 at 19:43:33
Hi!
This week's Kalle Anka & C:o contained the first part of a new Rosa
multi-parter, "Korsfararkungarnas krona" (D 2001-024). It is a good story,
though irritating that the translator constantly spelled the name Columbus
wrong in genitive ("Columbus" instead of "Columbi"). On one of the panels
there's a guy saying something in Russian (?): "????! ?? ???????!" Does
anyone know what that means?
Stefan
This week's Kalle Anka & C:o contained the first part of a new Rosa
multi-parter, "Korsfararkungarnas krona" (D 2001-024). It is a good story,
though irritating that the translator constantly spelled the name Columbus
wrong in genitive ("Columbus" instead of "Columbi"). On one of the panels
there's a guy saying something in Russian (?): "????! ?? ???????!" Does
anyone know what that means?
Stefan
Don Rosa
DCML digest #706
Message 145 -
2001-10-20 at 15:29:11
From: "Stefan Persson" <reimersholme at hotmail.com>
>>>This week's Kalle Anka & C:o contained the first part of a new Rosa
multi-parter, "Korsfararkungarnas krona" On one of the panels
there's a guy saying something in Russian (?): "????! ?? ???????!" Does
anyone know what that means?
Well, I know what the Russian words that *I* drew into the balloon mean,
but it remains to be seen if they are still there or if some genius editor
had them deleted. (It was actually Brutopian who apparently speak Russian
and were one of the socialist republics, occupying the area of Siberia.) If
your keyboard or my computer recreating them accurately above (and how
could you type Russian letters onto your keyboard?), what I see above AIN'T
my original.
>>>This week's Kalle Anka & C:o contained the first part of a new Rosa
multi-parter, "Korsfararkungarnas krona" On one of the panels
there's a guy saying something in Russian (?): "????! ?? ???????!" Does
anyone know what that means?
Well, I know what the Russian words that *I* drew into the balloon mean,
but it remains to be seen if they are still there or if some genius editor
had them deleted. (It was actually Brutopian who apparently speak Russian
and were one of the socialist republics, occupying the area of Siberia.) If
your keyboard or my computer recreating them accurately above (and how
could you type Russian letters onto your keyboard?), what I see above AIN'T
my original.
Stefan Persson
DCML digest #706
Message 146 -
2001-10-20 at 16:42:31
Hi!
Me >This week's Kalle Anka & C:o contained the first part of a new Rosa
Me >multi-parter, "Korsfararkungarnas krona" On one of the panels
Me >there's a guy saying something in Russian (?): "????! ?? ???????!" Does
Me >anyone know what that means?
Rosa>Well, I know what the Russian words that *I* drew into the balloon
mean,
Rosa>but it remains to be seen if they are still there or if some genius
editor
Rosa>had them deleted. (It was actually Brutopian who apparently speak
Russian
Rosa>and were one of the socialist republics, occupying the area of
Siberia.) If
Rosa>your keyboard or my computer recreating them accurately above (and how
Rosa>could you type Russian letters onto your keyboard?), what I see above
AIN'T
Rosa>my original.
In case the Russian text was not displayed correct for you, I've uploaded a
scan of that panel at this address:
http://www.geocities.com/russian_text_in_rosa_story/russian_text.jpg
As for the typing of Russian letters, I used the "Insert: Symbol" feature in
Word, double-clicked on the letters, and pasted them into my e-mail program.
Stefan
Me >This week's Kalle Anka & C:o contained the first part of a new Rosa
Me >multi-parter, "Korsfararkungarnas krona" On one of the panels
Me >there's a guy saying something in Russian (?): "????! ?? ???????!" Does
Me >anyone know what that means?
Rosa>Well, I know what the Russian words that *I* drew into the balloon
mean,
Rosa>but it remains to be seen if they are still there or if some genius
editor
Rosa>had them deleted. (It was actually Brutopian who apparently speak
Russian
Rosa>and were one of the socialist republics, occupying the area of
Siberia.) If
Rosa>your keyboard or my computer recreating them accurately above (and how
Rosa>could you type Russian letters onto your keyboard?), what I see above
AIN'T
Rosa>my original.
In case the Russian text was not displayed correct for you, I've uploaded a
scan of that panel at this address:
http://www.geocities.com/russian_text_in_rosa_story/russian_text.jpg
As for the typing of Russian letters, I used the "Insert: Symbol" feature in
Word, double-clicked on the letters, and pasted them into my e-mail program.
Stefan
Don Rosa
DCML digest #706
Message 147 -
2001-10-20 at 16:46:00
I checked, and I *have* that new KALLE ANKA over in the heap on the floor
in the corner. I didn't realize it had one of my stories in it. Thanks for
the tip.
Yes, that's my original Russian text in the balloon. I figured it would be
since Stephan Dios is the translator there and he would have warned me if a
mucky-muck had decided to delete my text. I obtained that Russian through
Elli Kotovirta in Finland, a country so near Russia that it actually
*touches* it, can you imagine?! She consulted a... it's been so long ago...
it was a Russian college professor, or perhaps even a diplomat? The first
word means "HALT!" Then the next two words mean "PREPARE TO BE BOARDED OR
WE OPEN FIRE!" I questioned how so much could be contained in two words,
but I was assured that the meaning of that Russian command was quite
definite. I was told that this is *very authentic* Russian for a 1950's
destroyer commander -- so authentic that someone who studies Russian
probably would not be familiar with this dialect or slang.
Lots of trouble to go to for a detail that probably not a *single* reader
will understand or ever imagine is authentic, eh? That's the fun of it...
my little private jokes. But if another Russian college professor gets
ahold of that issue, I assume he would be rather shocked and amused, and
that's also my intent. It's fun to entertain the masses, but it's also fun
to entertain the individual reader. When my flat-rate pay is not based on
popularity or readership, I can have that option and it doesn't cost me a
cent. Very liberating!
in the corner. I didn't realize it had one of my stories in it. Thanks for
the tip.
Yes, that's my original Russian text in the balloon. I figured it would be
since Stephan Dios is the translator there and he would have warned me if a
mucky-muck had decided to delete my text. I obtained that Russian through
Elli Kotovirta in Finland, a country so near Russia that it actually
*touches* it, can you imagine?! She consulted a... it's been so long ago...
it was a Russian college professor, or perhaps even a diplomat? The first
word means "HALT!" Then the next two words mean "PREPARE TO BE BOARDED OR
WE OPEN FIRE!" I questioned how so much could be contained in two words,
but I was assured that the meaning of that Russian command was quite
definite. I was told that this is *very authentic* Russian for a 1950's
destroyer commander -- so authentic that someone who studies Russian
probably would not be familiar with this dialect or slang.
Lots of trouble to go to for a detail that probably not a *single* reader
will understand or ever imagine is authentic, eh? That's the fun of it...
my little private jokes. But if another Russian college professor gets
ahold of that issue, I assume he would be rather shocked and amused, and
that's also my intent. It's fun to entertain the masses, but it's also fun
to entertain the individual reader. When my flat-rate pay is not based on
popularity or readership, I can have that option and it doesn't cost me a
cent. Very liberating!
Rob Klein
Supernatural Barks
Message 148 -
2001-10-20 at 18:10:20
Yes, - Professor McCobb's information about zombies is based on anecdotal
((and scientific (I hope)) observations (and study?) of individuals thought
to be in that catatonic - type state. It is possible that the slowing -
down of body functions which often accompanies the various forms of
catalepsy (sleeping sickness) may result in a longer life for victims than
they might have had had their body been operating at its normal speed.
That could explain Bombie's advanced aged, and why he was able to roam the
World for the many years between Scrooge's youth and his old age.
Rob Klein
((and scientific (I hope)) observations (and study?) of individuals thought
to be in that catatonic - type state. It is possible that the slowing -
down of body functions which often accompanies the various forms of
catalepsy (sleeping sickness) may result in a longer life for victims than
they might have had had their body been operating at its normal speed.
That could explain Bombie's advanced aged, and why he was able to roam the
World for the many years between Scrooge's youth and his old age.
Rob Klein
DGE
Disney publishes duck family tree in USA, acknowledges the DCML
Message 149 -
2001-10-20 at 19:05:39
Hey, everyone...
_The Little Big Book Of Disney_, an 8-by-8, 356-page English
language Disney trivia/casual reference book, is apparently available
worldwide now. I hadn't heard of the book, published by Disney Press- one of
Disney's own USA imprints- before seeing it in the shops today.
There's a fair amount of Duck comics-related information in the
book, suggesting that the authors did some research. A page with basic
information about Pegleg Pete refers also to such comics villains as
Sylvester Shyster and Emil Eagle as being his cohorts. A two-page feature on
Carl Barks is here, written with great respect, and reprinting 3/4 of a page
from "Land Beneath The Ground".
A two-page, non-illustrated version of the Duck Family Tree is here.
It is largely based on Barks and Rosa sources, but makes a few interesting
decisions of its own. Donald's sister is called Dumbella. Matilda McDuck is
married to Ludwig Von Drake (there's a ? above the union, but it's
interesting that an "official" Disney source goes even this far). Andold
Wild Duck is listed as a medieval ancestor of Cornelius Coot (!). Daisy is
linked to the others as a great grand-niece of Grandma Duck- and she's given
a brother in Donald's Cousin Fred (from H 85125).
Gus Goose and Rumpus McFowl are on the tree, but there are no lines
to connect them to anyone else. I don't know why.
A page on the Number One Dime tries to mix several mythologies. It
uses Don Rosa's version of the events in which Scrooge's father originally
got the dime from Howard Rockerduck (D 91249), but doesn't mention the point
of it all: the ditchdigger, or the cleaning of his boots. It also takes the
DuckTales route of referring to the dime as a lucky charm.
There is no mention of Don Rosa, William Van Horn or Marco Rota in
this book, despite the attempt to incorporate their creations. Floyd
Gottfredson is (sniff!) not mentioned either.
At the end of the book, the bibliography mentions several websites
among its sources that might be well-known to us:
* The DCML
* Rich's HooZoo (at a web address that no longer functions)
* Sigvald Gr?sfjeld's Who's Who In Duckburg
Is this the first reference to our sites in an authorized Disney
publication?
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
_The Little Big Book Of Disney_, an 8-by-8, 356-page English
language Disney trivia/casual reference book, is apparently available
worldwide now. I hadn't heard of the book, published by Disney Press- one of
Disney's own USA imprints- before seeing it in the shops today.
There's a fair amount of Duck comics-related information in the
book, suggesting that the authors did some research. A page with basic
information about Pegleg Pete refers also to such comics villains as
Sylvester Shyster and Emil Eagle as being his cohorts. A two-page feature on
Carl Barks is here, written with great respect, and reprinting 3/4 of a page
from "Land Beneath The Ground".
A two-page, non-illustrated version of the Duck Family Tree is here.
It is largely based on Barks and Rosa sources, but makes a few interesting
decisions of its own. Donald's sister is called Dumbella. Matilda McDuck is
married to Ludwig Von Drake (there's a ? above the union, but it's
interesting that an "official" Disney source goes even this far). Andold
Wild Duck is listed as a medieval ancestor of Cornelius Coot (!). Daisy is
linked to the others as a great grand-niece of Grandma Duck- and she's given
a brother in Donald's Cousin Fred (from H 85125).
Gus Goose and Rumpus McFowl are on the tree, but there are no lines
to connect them to anyone else. I don't know why.
A page on the Number One Dime tries to mix several mythologies. It
uses Don Rosa's version of the events in which Scrooge's father originally
got the dime from Howard Rockerduck (D 91249), but doesn't mention the point
of it all: the ditchdigger, or the cleaning of his boots. It also takes the
DuckTales route of referring to the dime as a lucky charm.
There is no mention of Don Rosa, William Van Horn or Marco Rota in
this book, despite the attempt to incorporate their creations. Floyd
Gottfredson is (sniff!) not mentioned either.
At the end of the book, the bibliography mentions several websites
among its sources that might be well-known to us:
* The DCML
* Rich's HooZoo (at a web address that no longer functions)
* Sigvald Gr?sfjeld's Who's Who In Duckburg
Is this the first reference to our sites in an authorized Disney
publication?
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
Marco Barlotti
Official Disney references to our sites
Message 150 -
2001-10-21 at 14:05:30
At 18:05:39 20/10/2001 +0200, David wrote:
> _The Little Big Book Of Disney_, an 8-by-8, 356-page English
>language Disney trivia/casual reference book, is apparently available
>worldwide now. [...] At the end of the book, the bibliography mentions
>several websites
>among its sources that might be well-known to us:
> * The DCML
> * Rich's HooZoo (at a web address that no longer functions)
> * Sigvald Gr?sfjeld's Who's Who In Duckburg
>Is this the first reference to our sites in an authorized Disney
>publication?
No, because for instance "I Maestri Disney" prints chronologies of Disney
works by Luca Boschi and Alberto Becattini.
Luca and Alberto usually check their data against mine, and then my site
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex
is quoted (although in very small print...) together with their thanks. I
guess that "I Maestri Disney" is "authorized Disney publication", huh?
Also "Zio Paperone" once gave the address of my Web pages.
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
> _The Little Big Book Of Disney_, an 8-by-8, 356-page English
>language Disney trivia/casual reference book, is apparently available
>worldwide now. [...] At the end of the book, the bibliography mentions
>several websites
>among its sources that might be well-known to us:
> * The DCML
> * Rich's HooZoo (at a web address that no longer functions)
> * Sigvald Gr?sfjeld's Who's Who In Duckburg
>Is this the first reference to our sites in an authorized Disney
>publication?
No, because for instance "I Maestri Disney" prints chronologies of Disney
works by Luca Boschi and Alberto Becattini.
Luca and Alberto usually check their data against mine, and then my site
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex
is quoted (although in very small print...) together with their thanks. I
guess that "I Maestri Disney" is "authorized Disney publication", huh?
Also "Zio Paperone" once gave the address of my Web pages.
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics