Stefan Persson discusses
http://www.geocities.com/russian_text_in_rosa_story/russian_text.jpg ,
and Don Rosa supplemented:
<<The first
word means "HALT!" Then the next two words mean "PREPARE TO BE BOARDED OR
WE OPEN FIRE!" I questioned how so much could be contained in two words,
but I was assured that the meaning of that Russian command was quite
definite. I was told that this is *very authentic* Russian for a 1950's
destroyer commander -- so authentic that someone who studies Russian
probably would not be familiar with this dialect or slang. >>
I can confirm that this is quite authentic Russian of the 1950ies.
I have tried it out on Russian friends and acquaintances
(and on my Russian conversation trainer). -- Transliteration into
Latin/English/Western letters is always a risky task, since
the words will be read differently by an American and a Swede,
but an approximate transliteration would be:
"STOI! NA ABORDAZH!"
<<Lots of trouble to go to for a detail that probably not a *single*
reader will understand or ever imagine is authentic, eh?>>
Don't underestimate us, Don!
It is perhaps not entirely clear what we should deduce from the
fact that the Brutopians speak Russian with such fluency.
It is also clear from the full "The Crown of the Crusader Kings"
story that these Brutopian operate in a specified area off
the Siberian coast. But we might be witnessing an out-of-country
intelligence-action semi-covert operation here, just as there
are British soldiers inside Afghanistan at the moment. In other
words, the conclusion that the Brutopians are actually flullblooded
Russians should not be jumped to.
Slava trudu,
Nils Lid Hjort.
Author
Topic: 200110
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Nils Lid Hjort
Brutopian dialects
Message 151 -
2001-10-21 at 18:38:25
99E
DCML#702, Don Rosa
Message 152 -
2001-10-21 at 21:45:33
In #702 Mr. Don Rosa Wrote:
"but Barks may simply have been ahead of his time, expecting the
current era in America when people will object to just about anything just
to hear themselves make noise."
Well... That happens lots of places - at least I think it happenden in
Denmark a few years ago! In the Barks story about The Treasure of Marco Polo
(isn't that what it's called???) which was printet - er, in 1997 or
something? - in Denmark for the first time, the poor soldier, whos wriat
watch doesn't work, says something like "You can't trust those watches from
Workes' Paradise!" - in the Danish magazine he mocks about those cheap
watches from the McDuck Factories...!!! I don't think $'s factories are
"Workers' Paradise" at all! ;o)
99E
"but Barks may simply have been ahead of his time, expecting the
current era in America when people will object to just about anything just
to hear themselves make noise."
Well... That happens lots of places - at least I think it happenden in
Denmark a few years ago! In the Barks story about The Treasure of Marco Polo
(isn't that what it's called???) which was printet - er, in 1997 or
something? - in Denmark for the first time, the poor soldier, whos wriat
watch doesn't work, says something like "You can't trust those watches from
Workes' Paradise!" - in the Danish magazine he mocks about those cheap
watches from the McDuck Factories...!!! I don't think $'s factories are
"Workers' Paradise" at all! ;o)
99E
Luca Boschi
Disney duck family in USA
Message 153 -
2001-10-21 at 23:23:10
Very interesting...
> Andold
> Wild Duck is listed as a medieval ancestor of Cornelius Coot (!).
Oh, well, tis is a new one! Even Marco Rota didn't suspect it!
> Daisy is
> linked to the others as a great grand-niece of Grandma Duck- and she's given
> a brother in Donald's Cousin Fred (from H 85125).
In Zio Paperone #120 his very name was Tom... And he seems to be Donald's
cousin, indeed... I even know that Fred Milton wished to use Fethry Duck in
the beginning.
> Gus Goose and Rumpus McFowl are on the tree, but there are no lines
> to connect them to anyone else. I don't know why.
Strange. Indeed, I forgot that Gus Goose has a *sister* in a very old,
non-Barks stry. Her name is Greta, Granda goes to visit her in the north
woods (a place not far from Hidden River or from Crearwater's place, I
guess). The story was (very well) drawn by Bill Wright and it shall be
reprinted it in Italy,quite soon.
>
> There is no mention of Don Rosa, William Van Horn or Marco Rota in
> this book, despite the attempt to incorporate their creations. Floyd
> Gottfredson is (sniff!) not mentioned either.
"WHY?" is the question.
And what about Brigitta McBridge? No mention of Scarpa at all?
Luca
> Andold
> Wild Duck is listed as a medieval ancestor of Cornelius Coot (!).
Oh, well, tis is a new one! Even Marco Rota didn't suspect it!
> Daisy is
> linked to the others as a great grand-niece of Grandma Duck- and she's given
> a brother in Donald's Cousin Fred (from H 85125).
In Zio Paperone #120 his very name was Tom... And he seems to be Donald's
cousin, indeed... I even know that Fred Milton wished to use Fethry Duck in
the beginning.
> Gus Goose and Rumpus McFowl are on the tree, but there are no lines
> to connect them to anyone else. I don't know why.
Strange. Indeed, I forgot that Gus Goose has a *sister* in a very old,
non-Barks stry. Her name is Greta, Granda goes to visit her in the north
woods (a place not far from Hidden River or from Crearwater's place, I
guess). The story was (very well) drawn by Bill Wright and it shall be
reprinted it in Italy,quite soon.
>
> There is no mention of Don Rosa, William Van Horn or Marco Rota in
> this book, despite the attempt to incorporate their creations. Floyd
> Gottfredson is (sniff!) not mentioned either.
"WHY?" is the question.
And what about Brigitta McBridge? No mention of Scarpa at all?
Luca
Nils Lid Hjort
Scrooge, Brutopian, Russian
Message 154 -
2001-10-22 at 13:26:30
Stefan Persson discussed
http://www.geocities.com/russian_text_in_rosa_story/russian_text.jpg ,
followed by explanations from Don Rosa and comments from myself,
touching on these Brutopians proficiency and fluency in Russian.
As I said, this raises various question of interest related to
the life and work and background of the Brutopians, surely
a topic worthy of further research (and speculation).
I wished to add another question, namely, does Scrooge speak or
understand Russian? Scrooge is the most gifted polyglotted
multilingual mangetungede inhabitant of the Duckburg universe,
as has been documented in many Barks and Rosa stories. Someone
should (immediately!) compile a list of all the languages
he can communicate in. Could there have been an occasion where
he has been to Russia, or otherwise been involved with
Russian biznizmenami [biznizmen = a (one) business person;
here by necessity conjugated in pluralis instrumentalis]?
Perhaps the Brutopians uttered "STOI! NA ABORDAZH!" to him
on this occasion, knowing that Scrooge would understand
this Russian phrase, and perhaps the average Brutopians
have been more exposed to Russian than to English/American
in their educational system?
Nikolaj Kholmik Olen'
http://www.geocities.com/russian_text_in_rosa_story/russian_text.jpg ,
followed by explanations from Don Rosa and comments from myself,
touching on these Brutopians proficiency and fluency in Russian.
As I said, this raises various question of interest related to
the life and work and background of the Brutopians, surely
a topic worthy of further research (and speculation).
I wished to add another question, namely, does Scrooge speak or
understand Russian? Scrooge is the most gifted polyglotted
multilingual mangetungede inhabitant of the Duckburg universe,
as has been documented in many Barks and Rosa stories. Someone
should (immediately!) compile a list of all the languages
he can communicate in. Could there have been an occasion where
he has been to Russia, or otherwise been involved with
Russian biznizmenami [biznizmen = a (one) business person;
here by necessity conjugated in pluralis instrumentalis]?
Perhaps the Brutopians uttered "STOI! NA ABORDAZH!" to him
on this occasion, knowing that Scrooge would understand
this Russian phrase, and perhaps the average Brutopians
have been more exposed to Russian than to English/American
in their educational system?
Nikolaj Kholmik Olen'
Olivier
Scrooge, Brutopian, Russian
Message 155 -
2001-10-22 at 14:08:13
>>Could there have been an occasion where he has been to Russia, or otherwise >>been involved with
Russian biznizmenami [biznizmen = a (one) business person; >> here by necessity conjugated in
pluralis instrumentalis]?
L&T, Chapter 11: In 1910, Scrooge bought a hat and cane in St Petersburg and sold "concertinas to
the Czar's cavalry" before buying Faberg? eggs from the Czar himself-- based on information given in
U$ 9 ("The Lemming with the Locket") & U$ 20 ("City of Golden Roofs").
I imagine Scrooge is fluent in the main languages of the countries he visited in his youth, and
knows enough of the local dialects to deal with Foola Zoola for instance. Since such journeys took
quite a lot of time and Scrooge is a hard-working tycoon, who wouldn't trust any interpreter, it is
possible he learned at least the staples-- and he may be a fast learner.
You will find a map of these voyages at http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/
("King of the Klondike" icon in the left "Contents" frame, then the globe for the map or young
Scrooge for a chronology).
Here's a list...
Tandjong Priok, Dutch Java, 1883
The Transvaal, South Africa (1887)
West Australia Plateau Desert (1896)
Panama (1906)
Congo (1909): Qwak Qwak & Voodoo tribes
Sahara
Egypt
Aden, Yemen
Turkey
Holland
St Petersburg
Bazookistan
Rippan Taro-- trains cormorans (one more language)
Best wishes,
Olivier
Russian biznizmenami [biznizmen = a (one) business person; >> here by necessity conjugated in
pluralis instrumentalis]?
L&T, Chapter 11: In 1910, Scrooge bought a hat and cane in St Petersburg and sold "concertinas to
the Czar's cavalry" before buying Faberg? eggs from the Czar himself-- based on information given in
U$ 9 ("The Lemming with the Locket") & U$ 20 ("City of Golden Roofs").
I imagine Scrooge is fluent in the main languages of the countries he visited in his youth, and
knows enough of the local dialects to deal with Foola Zoola for instance. Since such journeys took
quite a lot of time and Scrooge is a hard-working tycoon, who wouldn't trust any interpreter, it is
possible he learned at least the staples-- and he may be a fast learner.
You will find a map of these voyages at http://ob7.free.fr/mouse_ducks/
("King of the Klondike" icon in the left "Contents" frame, then the globe for the map or young
Scrooge for a chronology).
Here's a list...
Tandjong Priok, Dutch Java, 1883
The Transvaal, South Africa (1887)
West Australia Plateau Desert (1896)
Panama (1906)
Congo (1909): Qwak Qwak & Voodoo tribes
Sahara
Egypt
Aden, Yemen
Turkey
Holland
St Petersburg
Bazookistan
Rippan Taro-- trains cormorans (one more language)
Best wishes,
Olivier
DGE
Disney duck family in USA
Message 156 -
2001-10-22 at 14:20:55
Hi Luca!
Thanks for the analysis. One quick question, though:
>Strange. Indeed, I forgot that Gus Goose has a *sister* in a very old,
>non-Barks stry. Her name is Greta, Granda goes to visit her in the north
>woods (a place not far from Hidden River or from Crearwater's place, I
>guess).
Who's Crearwater? An Italian character I don't know about? Or is
this the Italian name for Whitewater? (Gulp. I don't enjoy sounding dead
ignorant... :-)
>> There is no mention of Don Rosa, William Van Horn or Marco Rota in
>> this book, despite the attempt to incorporate their creations. Floyd
>> Gottfredson is (sniff!) not mentioned either.
>
>"WHY?" is the question.
Maybe because the Disney editor in charge of the book knew more
about Barks than about the others? Or maybe she felt Barks was the only one
whom American readers would show an interest in.
No mention of Scarpa, or of Brigitta. (Not that I'd ever ask that
she be on the Tree... is she really a relative of any other well-known
Duck?)
Otherwise, this book is mostly a very nice, ground-level
introduction to some behind-the-scenes Disney details. I've read it quite
extensively and only see one minor mistake so far (Clarabelle Cow is said to
first appear in 1926's ALICE ON THE FARM, which really uses a very different
cow).
David
Thanks for the analysis. One quick question, though:
>Strange. Indeed, I forgot that Gus Goose has a *sister* in a very old,
>non-Barks stry. Her name is Greta, Granda goes to visit her in the north
>woods (a place not far from Hidden River or from Crearwater's place, I
>guess).
Who's Crearwater? An Italian character I don't know about? Or is
this the Italian name for Whitewater? (Gulp. I don't enjoy sounding dead
ignorant... :-)
>> There is no mention of Don Rosa, William Van Horn or Marco Rota in
>> this book, despite the attempt to incorporate their creations. Floyd
>> Gottfredson is (sniff!) not mentioned either.
>
>"WHY?" is the question.
Maybe because the Disney editor in charge of the book knew more
about Barks than about the others? Or maybe she felt Barks was the only one
whom American readers would show an interest in.
No mention of Scarpa, or of Brigitta. (Not that I'd ever ask that
she be on the Tree... is she really a relative of any other well-known
Duck?)
Otherwise, this book is mostly a very nice, ground-level
introduction to some behind-the-scenes Disney details. I've read it quite
extensively and only see one minor mistake so far (Clarabelle Cow is said to
first appear in 1926's ALICE ON THE FARM, which really uses a very different
cow).
David
Luca Boschi
R: Disney duck family in USA
Message 157 -
2001-10-22 at 17:34:35
Oh, David!
It was a recurring mistake fro me...
Since his Italian name is Chiarafonte. Bu it *is* Whitewater. Whew!
> No mention of Scarpa, or of Brigitta. (Not that I'd ever ask that
> she be on the Tree... is she really a relative of any other well-known
> Duck?)
No, really. But she is a character known also by American readers. No
surprise that the cousin Sgrizzo Papero is not there.
> Otherwise, this book is mostly a very nice, ground-level
> introduction to some behind-the-scenes Disney details. I've read it quite
> extensively and only see one minor mistake so far (Clarabelle Cow is said to
> first appear in 1926's ALICE ON THE FARM, which really uses a very different
> cow).
Surely!
Thanks!
Bye,
Luca (who looks forward your Egmont Xmas book withe ZENZERO in it;
incidentally, I told Romano Scarpa about this reprint, and that the color of
the ring is light brown, at least. And he seemed very happy of it).
It was a recurring mistake fro me...
Since his Italian name is Chiarafonte. Bu it *is* Whitewater. Whew!
> No mention of Scarpa, or of Brigitta. (Not that I'd ever ask that
> she be on the Tree... is she really a relative of any other well-known
> Duck?)
No, really. But she is a character known also by American readers. No
surprise that the cousin Sgrizzo Papero is not there.
> Otherwise, this book is mostly a very nice, ground-level
> introduction to some behind-the-scenes Disney details. I've read it quite
> extensively and only see one minor mistake so far (Clarabelle Cow is said to
> first appear in 1926's ALICE ON THE FARM, which really uses a very different
> cow).
Surely!
Thanks!
Bye,
Luca (who looks forward your Egmont Xmas book withe ZENZERO in it;
incidentally, I told Romano Scarpa about this reprint, and that the color of
the ring is light brown, at least. And he seemed very happy of it).
Sue And Gary Leach
DCML digest, Vol 1 #706 - 3 msgs
Message 158 -
2001-10-23 at 01:27:54
Mark:
> Could a "case-by-case" basis include something like an occasional
> graphic novel or mini-series of Don Rosa's new stories, or maybe of
> other material that fans would be interested in?
As things currently stand, "classic" characters such as Donald Duck and
Uncle Scrooge (Don Rosa's bunch) are not available to publishers on a
case-by-case basis. However, if Diamond/Gemstone and Disney for some reason
do not finalize a license on the "classic" characters, Disney could
conceivably realign their comic book licensing goals for these characters
and make them available case-by-case. It would, in fact, be a very sensible
approach, though it would require a little more work on Disney's part to
maintain.
Gary
> Could a "case-by-case" basis include something like an occasional
> graphic novel or mini-series of Don Rosa's new stories, or maybe of
> other material that fans would be interested in?
As things currently stand, "classic" characters such as Donald Duck and
Uncle Scrooge (Don Rosa's bunch) are not available to publishers on a
case-by-case basis. However, if Diamond/Gemstone and Disney for some reason
do not finalize a license on the "classic" characters, Disney could
conceivably realign their comic book licensing goals for these characters
and make them available case-by-case. It would, in fact, be a very sensible
approach, though it would require a little more work on Disney's part to
maintain.
Gary
Pedro Cravo
Official Disney references to our sites
Message 159 -
2001-10-23 at 13:12:28
Marco Barlotti wrote:
>
>Also "Zio Paperone" once gave the address of my Web pages.
>
In Portugal, Disney Mania, an old magazine no longer published, used to
include in every issue mentions to the I.N.D.U.C.K.S. and DCML, in the
References/Thanks box. And this was two years ago.
Pedro Cravo
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>
>Also "Zio Paperone" once gave the address of my Web pages.
>
In Portugal, Disney Mania, an old magazine no longer published, used to
include in every issue mentions to the I.N.D.U.C.K.S. and DCML, in the
References/Thanks box. And this was two years ago.
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Duck Family Tree
Message 160 -
2001-10-23 at 20:18:18
Did anybody talk about family tree????
Where??? Where???
Is there any way for me to get this book?
Can anybody buy it for me and I will give him the money by the post (without
white powder, of course)?
>>>Gus has a sister called Greta
can anybody scan her for me, or buy the comic book in which she will appear
and send it to me?
In a first version of my Duck family tree, I invented a sister for gus called
Grace Goose, and a grandma for him called Greta Gawky!
>>>Daisy is Grandma's grandniece
great I had the same idea in MY Duck Family TRee!!!
About Daisy's brother FRed, can anybody make scan of him?
Is he any of the characters appearing in the German Duck Family Tree from my
site
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/italiantree.html
?
About this tree, I just noticed something about it :
I shows three ancestors called, in the german version, something like Dorian,
Detlef, and David Dickhelm Duck (it is written so little... I am not sure).
(they are from Cornelius Coot's branch)
Those characters are also in my Duck Family Tree:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/myducktree.html
The last one is called by his french name, in it : Crockett.
Does anybody know what story They comes from?
Now I have to update my Duck family tree once again... It turns to be a Duck
family forest!!!
THank u
Quack!
Gilles
Where??? Where???
Is there any way for me to get this book?
Can anybody buy it for me and I will give him the money by the post (without
white powder, of course)?
>>>Gus has a sister called Greta
can anybody scan her for me, or buy the comic book in which she will appear
and send it to me?
In a first version of my Duck family tree, I invented a sister for gus called
Grace Goose, and a grandma for him called Greta Gawky!
>>>Daisy is Grandma's grandniece
great I had the same idea in MY Duck Family TRee!!!
About Daisy's brother FRed, can anybody make scan of him?
Is he any of the characters appearing in the German Duck Family Tree from my
site
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/italiantree.html
?
About this tree, I just noticed something about it :
I shows three ancestors called, in the german version, something like Dorian,
Detlef, and David Dickhelm Duck (it is written so little... I am not sure).
(they are from Cornelius Coot's branch)
Those characters are also in my Duck Family Tree:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/myducktree.html
The last one is called by his french name, in it : Crockett.
Does anybody know what story They comes from?
Now I have to update my Duck family tree once again... It turns to be a Duck
family forest!!!
THank u
Quack!
Gilles
Fluks, H.W.
Web page about Wilma van den Bosch
Message 161 -
2001-10-24 at 16:25:47
There is a website with some interesting information about Wilma van den
Bosch, a Dutch Disney comics writer and artist.
The URL is:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~oost/wilma.htm
The information is (currently) only in Dutch. But the site also contains
some nice photographs and drawings.
--Harry.
(My website about the Dutch "Donald Duck" weekly:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xindexeng.html)
Bosch, a Dutch Disney comics writer and artist.
The URL is:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~oost/wilma.htm
The information is (currently) only in Dutch. But the site also contains
some nice photographs and drawings.
--Harry.
(My website about the Dutch "Donald Duck" weekly:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xindexeng.html)
Dim I Nticoudis
Andold"Wild Duck"Temerary,Cornelius Coot,Fenton Penworthy
Message 162 -
2001-10-24 at 17:53:13
Andold"Wild Duck"Temerary is one od Donald Duck's ancestors appearing in
many stories.In the first one he becomes the commander of Walstaen Castle in
Caledonia(Scotland)on 794 A.D.He is older than the earliest named McDucks.Is
he a McDuck?
Someone mentioned him as an ancestor of Cornelius Coot.Since when does
Cornelious have Scotish ancestors?Is Cornelius related to Fenton
Penworthy,the guardian of the lost library who served Francis Drake?The
later was the firstcommander of Fort Drakeborough while Malcolm McDuck was
falsly reported as the one.Malcolm was dead since 1564.Is Fenton his son and
an ancestor of Cornelius Coot?
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many stories.In the first one he becomes the commander of Walstaen Castle in
Caledonia(Scotland)on 794 A.D.He is older than the earliest named McDucks.Is
he a McDuck?
Someone mentioned him as an ancestor of Cornelius Coot.Since when does
Cornelious have Scotish ancestors?Is Cornelius related to Fenton
Penworthy,the guardian of the lost library who served Francis Drake?The
later was the firstcommander of Fort Drakeborough while Malcolm McDuck was
falsly reported as the one.Malcolm was dead since 1564.Is Fenton his son and
an ancestor of Cornelius Coot?
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Comics-Shop DisComics ?
Message 163 -
2001-10-24 at 22:00:20
This might appear to contradict what I've said here
before , ( However , I don't think that it does . (
but , could Disney comics in N.A. - especially of "
our " ones , i.e., the Ducks , etc. - be commercially
viable as comics-shops items only , not distributed to
newsstand outlets ( Or , perhaps , given - at least at
the beginning - very limited non-comics shop - Perhaps
per-baggeds , much as GK/Western did in the 70s , and
as Viz - in the US - recently has done with Pokemon
and Dragonball Z comics ? ) ?
Maybe Geppi would perfer that , and Disney is ,
insisting , on the wider distribution ? Frankly , no
matter what ( especially from the viewpoint of the "
traditional/little kids' " comics , such as the
Disneys , fans ) the limitations of the direct-market
comics shops idea may be , it , at least , permitted
comics publishers to not have to deal with ,
INCREDIBLE , amounts of returned , unsold , copies ,
which ( Officially , anyway , ) were supposed to be
scrapped-burned - It's hardly any coincidence that ,
NO new comics publisher of standard-type comics in the
US started up , and continued for any length of time ,
from the mid-50s to the early/mid 80s , when the
comics shop market started to become a factor !
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before , ( However , I don't think that it does . (
but , could Disney comics in N.A. - especially of "
our " ones , i.e., the Ducks , etc. - be commercially
viable as comics-shops items only , not distributed to
newsstand outlets ( Or , perhaps , given - at least at
the beginning - very limited non-comics shop - Perhaps
per-baggeds , much as GK/Western did in the 70s , and
as Viz - in the US - recently has done with Pokemon
and Dragonball Z comics ? ) ?
Maybe Geppi would perfer that , and Disney is ,
insisting , on the wider distribution ? Frankly , no
matter what ( especially from the viewpoint of the "
traditional/little kids' " comics , such as the
Disneys , fans ) the limitations of the direct-market
comics shops idea may be , it , at least , permitted
comics publishers to not have to deal with ,
INCREDIBLE , amounts of returned , unsold , copies ,
which ( Officially , anyway , ) were supposed to be
scrapped-burned - It's hardly any coincidence that ,
NO new comics publisher of standard-type comics in the
US started up , and continued for any length of time ,
from the mid-50s to the early/mid 80s , when the
comics shop market started to become a factor !
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Comic Shop DisComics ( A Slight Correction ! ) !
Message 164 -
2001-10-24 at 22:21:56
...I should correct myself slightly , on one
assertation I made before...When Western took their
comics liscences and production from Dell to start
their own Gold Key (/Whitman/Western ) company , while
Dell continued , without Western , putting out comic
books into early 1973 , that DID mean " a new comic
book company " that sprung up , and had a raesonably ,
finacially speaking , lengthy run , in the 1957-1982
era - first , I thought of it from the perspective of
" Oh , wait , the 1963-1973 Dell..." - Then , finally
sitting down at the keyboard , I was seized , thank
God , by the realization that 1963-1983 GK (/W/W )
DOES qualify as a " new company " , whereas the
1963-1973 Dell qualifies as the " previously existing
one " - However , U.S. comics fans DO tend to classify
them together - Indeed , I believe that
Ducks/Disney/Dell fans are , ESPECIALLY , prone to
consider the Dell-Western split as " one strong
company became two weaker ones " - regardless, they
were two different companies . However , I believe my
main point still holds .
And really , the market for newsstand distribution
of " regular " , slick magazines , never mind comic
books , in the US , had been really going through a
large contraction - contributing to a lot of
well-known magazines ( Life , Brill's Content ,
Mademoiselle , George ) going out of business ,
recently , in the US , - even BEFORE the horrible
events of 9/11 and all that has followed after that .
Now what ?????
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assertation I made before...When Western took their
comics liscences and production from Dell to start
their own Gold Key (/Whitman/Western ) company , while
Dell continued , without Western , putting out comic
books into early 1973 , that DID mean " a new comic
book company " that sprung up , and had a raesonably ,
finacially speaking , lengthy run , in the 1957-1982
era - first , I thought of it from the perspective of
" Oh , wait , the 1963-1973 Dell..." - Then , finally
sitting down at the keyboard , I was seized , thank
God , by the realization that 1963-1983 GK (/W/W )
DOES qualify as a " new company " , whereas the
1963-1973 Dell qualifies as the " previously existing
one " - However , U.S. comics fans DO tend to classify
them together - Indeed , I believe that
Ducks/Disney/Dell fans are , ESPECIALLY , prone to
consider the Dell-Western split as " one strong
company became two weaker ones " - regardless, they
were two different companies . However , I believe my
main point still holds .
And really , the market for newsstand distribution
of " regular " , slick magazines , never mind comic
books , in the US , had been really going through a
large contraction - contributing to a lot of
well-known magazines ( Life , Brill's Content ,
Mademoiselle , George ) going out of business ,
recently , in the US , - even BEFORE the horrible
events of 9/11 and all that has followed after that .
Now what ?????
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R: Duck Family Tree
Message 165 -
2001-10-25 at 01:38:49
Hi, all!
Did anybody talk about family tree????
Where??? Where???
Is there any way for me to get this book?
In MANY future issues of ZP you can find stories with references to family
trees... But not this year...
>>>Gus has a sister called Greta
can anybody scan her for me, or buy the comic book in which she will appear
and send it to me?
Sorry, I made a mistake. GRETA is Gus' cousin, not sister. Her story, by Don
Christensen , was published in Disney Comics and Stories 141, June 1952
(its title was " Grandma Duck").
About Daisy's brother FRed, can anybody make scan of him?
He was not Daisy's COUSIN?
Bye,
Luca
Did anybody talk about family tree????
Where??? Where???
Is there any way for me to get this book?
In MANY future issues of ZP you can find stories with references to family
trees... But not this year...
>>>Gus has a sister called Greta
can anybody scan her for me, or buy the comic book in which she will appear
and send it to me?
Sorry, I made a mistake. GRETA is Gus' cousin, not sister. Her story, by Don
Christensen , was published in Disney Comics and Stories 141, June 1952
(its title was " Grandma Duck").
About Daisy's brother FRed, can anybody make scan of him?
He was not Daisy's COUSIN?
Bye,
Luca