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Apostolis Trikourakis
Hi all

A greek guy have sent me this URL:
http://www.povonline.com/News100301.htm

It is the official page of Mark Evanier, writer of the
"Space Circus" and a good friend of Sergio Aragones,
the artist of the story. As you can read, Mark has no
idea about the publication of "Space Circus" on Komix,
which started on issue #158, July 2001 (it will be
finished in #161, November 2001). I'm sure that Komix
editors made a goof here and print a non-disney story,
only for filling the issues! There's no reason for
doing something like that: there are a lot of Barks or
Rosa's stories which are still unpublished here, so
why they choose a non-disney one? Apart from that, the
issues prices are more expensive than the previous
ones because of that story.
I hope that Komix is not going to repeat the same
mistake again in the future :-(

Best Wishes

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Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece
E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage

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Apostolis Trikourakis
Hi all

A greek guy have sent me this URL:
http://www.povonline.com/News100301.htm

It is the official page of Mark Evanier, writer of the
"Space Circus" and a good friend of Sergio Aragones,
the artist of the story. As you can read, Mark has no
idea about the publication of "Space Circus" on Komix,
which started on issue #158, July 2001 (it will be
finished in #161, November 2001). I'm sure that Komix
editors made a goof here and print a non-disney story,
only for filling the issues! There's no reason for
doing something like that: there are a lot of Barks or
Rosa's stories which are still unpublished here, so
why they choose a non-disney one? Apart from that, the
issues prices are more expensive than the previous
ones because of that story.
I hope that Komix is not going to repeat the same
mistake again in the future :-(

Best Wishes

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Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece
E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage

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Andy Row
the countries that treat American's like crap will
feel it in the wallet and
be a little nicer after they realize that they miss
us. I just returned from
France and was given crap by waiters and waitresses
and people that we asked
for direction because we didn't speak enough French. A
one time two week
trip to France didn't rate a French lesson other than
the basics as far as
I'm concerned. Screw 'em ! I know we would be a bit
nicer to them over here
under the same circumstances. Anyway, I don't think
they complained too much
about our broken French when we were getting our
butt's killed in WW I and
WW II for the salvage of their country. I was over
there visiting the GRAVE
of a relative killed in WW I.

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SRoweCanoe
as usual, let me point out that I am no kin to our troll

and to point out (although I'm sure you know) that not all Americans are like
him.

Steven Rowe
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Stefan Persson
>From: Andy Row <andytlrow at yahoo.com>
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS: Maybe if we stop visiting Europe for awhile
>Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
>
>the countries that treat American's like crap will
>feel it in the wallet and
>be a little nicer after they realize that they miss
>us.

What does this have to do with Disney comics?

Stefan

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Fabio Blanco
oh, no... no another troll... :(
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From: Andy Row <andytlrow at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:27 PM
Subject: ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS: Maybe if we stop visiting Europe for awhile

> the countries that treat American's like crap will
> feel it in the wallet and
> be a little nicer after they realize that they miss
> us. I just returned from
> France and was given crap by waiters and waitresses
> and people that we asked
> for direction because we didn't speak enough French. A
> one time two week
> trip to France didn't rate a French lesson other than
> the basics as far as
> I'm concerned. Screw 'em ! I know we would be a bit
> nicer to them over here
> under the same circumstances. Anyway, I don't think
> they complained too much
> about our broken French when we were getting our
> butt's killed in WW I and
> WW II for the salvage of their country. I was over
> there visiting the GRAVE
> of a relative killed in WW I.
>
>
>
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Don Rosa
The last "announcement" I made was to say that I couldn't get to the
Gothenburg Book Fair after they cancelled all the flights outta Louisville.
Now I'm saying that, due to my failure to make it to that show, I've
accepted another offer to be a guest at the Amadora International Comics
Festival near Lisbon. I don't think we have any Portuguese members (?), so
I don't guess that makes up for my missing the Swedish show, but it's all I
can do.
It would be nice if you could magically and cheaply transport yourselves to
see one of these Portuguese (or Spanish) comics fairs. They do spectacular
displays of guests' original art! The show I was at last year in La Coruna
filled a huge gallery about 2 blocks long with thousands of pages of art
and had special props all over the city like Spider-Man climbing the city
bell tower! And the Oporto show I was at 3 years ago is where they built a
20 ft. tall replica of the Money Bin inside the expo hall, including a fake
hill underneath it, where you would enter into a hole blasted in a wall by
a Beagle Boy and see my art displayed around the inside walls while walking
around a 10X15 ft. swimming pool of cash with a life-size $crooge diving
into it off a diving board, as well as other props. And these shows are
government sponsored -- La Coruna is where we attended a State Dinner in
our honor at the Mayor's "palace", and the art that I just sent for display
in Lisbon, I sent it to the Portuguese Embassy in Washington DC to be sent
by diplomatic courier to the festival. Lah-dee-dah! No tellin' what sorta
display they're cookin' up.
YMH
Er, about that... Why exactly *does* she seek the dime?

-Yossi

In a message dated 10/10/01 6:22:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:

> never could figure out how the Euro writers could
> think Magica was a witch who sought $crooge's #1 Dime for some reason
Kriton Kyrimis
DON asked:

> I never could figure out how the Euro writers could
> think Magica was a witch

To which GILLES replied:

> In France, Sorceress and witch is translated the same word : "Sorci=E8re"

And to which I add:

...and in Greece it is "magissa".

One of the good things about English is that it, um, well, isn't actually
English! It is actually a language derived from English (the original
Germanic language), Latin (from the Romans), Greek (from its influence
on Latin and from its use in coining new scientific terms), and French
(from the Normans), resulting in a richness of synonyms that is not to
be found in other western languages. In this particular case, you have
witches, warlocks, magicians, mages, sorcerers (and probably a few more),
which mean the same thing in the various languages from which these
words originate (someone who uses supernatural means to achieve an end),
but have acquired subtly different meanings in English.

APOSTOLIS:

> I'm sure that Komix
> editors made a goof here and print a non-disney story,
> only for filling the issues! There's no reason for
> doing something like that:

A while back, I mentioned my suspicions that this may be a trick to make
readers forget the actual price of the magazine, so that Komix can raise
its price when we switch to the Euro without readers realizing it.
Archontis told me that when he renewed his subscription to Komix,
he was told that the current, temporary, price increase is going to
become permanent next year. I'm waiting to see if this price increase
is accompanied by a corresponding increase in page count. If not, I'll
probably stop buying Komix.

Komix is already giving a Euro equivalent to its current price that is
rounded up to the next 10 cent multiple, rather than the closest cent,
which is what they are supposed to be doing, so my hopes are not very
high.
--
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Fabio responded:
> oh, no... no another troll... :(

Not "another": it's the same one. We know "Andy Row". Not worth reacting to.

--Harry.
Pedro Cravo
Don Rosa wrote:
>
>(...) I've accepted another offer to be a guest at the Amadora
>International Comics Festival near Lisbon. I don't think we have any
>Portuguese members (?), so I don't guess that makes up for my missing
>the Swedish show, but it's all I can do.

There's at least ONE Portuguese member in this list, ME, and I can hardly
wait to be with you at Amadora. I meant to contact you before, regarding
this Festival, as I've contacted the Portuguese editor of Disney comics and
they said they intended to release the Portuguese edition of Life and Times
of $crooge McDuck at this occasion.

For those of you who don?t know this Festival (I guess all), I can tell you
it?s considered the biggest and best Comics Festival in Portugal, although I
prefer the Oporto Festival (considered the second best). Four years ago (not
3 as you mention, Don) I visited the Oporto Festival where Don was the guest
artist. This was the best comics exhibit I ever saw, with the money bin,
$crooge, the Beagle Boys and the original art by Don. I don?t know what
they?re thinking of, this time, but I expect it to be of the same quality.

Amadora 2000 web page is still up at this URL:
http://www.cm-amadora.pt/sitefibda2000/index01.html

The only info I could find about this year edition is here:
http://www.cm-amadora.pt/web/m04.htm#3

This is all in Portuguese, but if you speak Spanish, maybe you?ll understand
a bit.

I?ll see if I can get some pictures of the Oporto Festival and upload them
to the Web, so that you have an idea of what Amadora may be. If anyone wants
to come and needs directions, send me an email and I?ll be glad to help.

To finish up, Don, I?d like to know when you?ll be here, so that I can
program my schedule. The Festival starts October 19th and finishes November
4th, but I expect you?ll only be present one of the weekends. Is this
correct?

Regards from Portugal!

Pedro Cravo

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Don Rosa
From: YMH at aol.com
>>>Er, about that... Why exactly *does* she seek the dime?
-Yossi

If you've read almost *any* of my Magica stories, at least if your
translators have not scrapped my dialogue for something else, I always make
a point of explaining and reaffirming why Magica, according to Barks'
original stories, wants that Dime.
Actually, Barks developed her motus-operandi slowly over her fairly short
original career, and certain aspects were already disappearing by the time
he stopped using her. I pick a version that is about 3-stories into the
Barks canon...
In the original Magica tale "The Midas Touch", even though she is referred
to as a sorceress, she exhibits absolutely NO magic powers or the use of
magic wands, etc. The only weapon she has is her "FOOF" bombs which could
be a very ordinary concoction. Barks, for some reason, seemed to really
disdain the use of a character with occult powers... his previous uses of
witches ("Trick or Treat" and "Golden Xmas Tree") were assigned to him by
his editor, not by his choice. In "Midas Touch", Magica claims, in a
seemingly purely scientific manner, that she has found that if she gathers
up coins owned by the world's richest men and melts them in the fires of
Mt. Vesuvius, she will be able to create an amulet which will give her the
Midas Touch (ability to create gold at will). There is no indication of
magic in this story, but it's more like *alchemy*, which would be how I
still prefer to view her abilities or arcane knowledge. Anyway, she was
well on her way in doing this, peacefully and legally buying up coins from
tycoons, when she learned of how $crooge has always kept his *first* coin
he ever earned as a souvenir. Magica reasoned that if she had *that* single
coin, owned and held the longest by the world's *very richest* man, she
would not need any other coins and she'd also be certain that her spell
would work. That coin would have maximum power because of the power that
has rubbed off on it from being owned and handled for decades by $crooge.
(Note that this is quite the opposite of the "Lucky Dime" error... it's
*not* that the Dime has given $crooge special powers, it's that $crooge has
given the *Dime* special powers! BIG difference!) She offered to buy the
coin, but $crooge naturally declined. As a matter of fact, he accidentally
*sells* her the Dime, then gets it back, and Magica then decides she liked
the original deal. Does this mean that the Dime has been Magica's legal
property all these years? And $crooge is unjustly withholding it? Hm.
In Magica's second story "The Unsafe Safe", she is still after the Dime,
but she still uses NO magic powers. She has a "zap ray" that she claims to
have "perfected" which is a purely mechanical device that she hides up her
sleeve with a battery pack. She seems to be losing ground as a sorceress
rather than gaining it.
In her third story "Oddball Odyssey", she still has no magic powers, but in
this story we see for the first time that she discovers a cache of ancient
wands and spells belonging to Circe, and because Magica is a student of
sorcery, she says she knows how to translate the ancient words that
describe how she (or anyone) can use Circe's goodies. She uses these items
for the next few stories, referring to her discovery of Circe's
storeroom -- perhaps this is the main batch of magical items she has always
used? Anyway, it's also in this story that Barks begins to simplify
Magica's story about why she wants the Dime, just to save space -- Magica
now begins to imply that the Dime *by itself* is an amulet to make her
rich... the melting in Mt. Vesuvius is not referred to... it's becoming a
Hitchcockian McGuffin.
So... the Magica we see in this third story is pretty much the one I use. A
normal person who uses her knowledge of ancient languages and alchemy to
utilize magical "tools" she discovers or perhaps buys.
Later Barks Magica stories began to drift into other areas... she often is
not even interested in the Dime any longer, but $crooge is crossing paths
with her in pursuit of some other magical item that she wants to use to
make herself rich, such as Aladdin's flying carpet, or some golden feathers
she needs in a potion. And I think that would be a nice way to use her in a
future $crooge story... but I think that readers have been conditioned with
this lust she has to get that Dime that they might be puzzled or
disappointed that the Dime is not part of the story... and that's okay,
too.
Dennis Books
IN 1981 CARL BARKS STATED:

"THE TRICKY WORLD OF VILLAINY IS PEOPLED WITH MANY SORTS OF RAPSCALLIONS: BURGLARS, BAMBOOZLERS, SNEAK THEIVES, LEGAL LOOPHOLE LAW-TWISTERS, DYNAMITERS, AND ORGANIZED GANGS LIKE THE TERRIBLE BEAGLE BOYS. BUT TOPPING ALL OF THESE TYPES IN SHEER CUSSEDNESS ARE WITCHES.

ONE DREADFUL DAY IN 1961 THE SLITHERY, SLINKY MAGICA DE SPELL ENTERED UNCLE SCROOGE'S OFFICE AND ANNOUNCED THAT SHE WAS A SORCERESS. UNCLE SCROOGE THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY FUNNY, AND HE LAUGHED AND LAUGHED.

HE HASN'T LAUGHED SINCE; HE HAS HAS BEEN TOO BUSY SAVING HIS FORTUNE AND HIS DEFILED OLD NUMBER-ONE DIME FROM THE SUPERNATURAL CLUTCHES OF THAT SURE-ENOUGH, HONEST-TO-GOD, UNSPURIOUS, PROFESSIONAL HEX-THROWING SORCERESS. IN 1964 HE BARELY SAVED HIS FACE IN THE FANTASTIC BATTLE CHRONICLED IN "THE MANY FACES OF MAGICA DE SPELL". BE WARNED BEFORE READING THIS; IT SHOWS WITCHCRAFT AT ITS PERFIDIOUS, SPELL-CASTING WORST."

BEST,DENNIS

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Many thanks for this citation, certainly hope someone can provide a scan and
perhaps other references, again thanks,
Dan the Tatmeister
http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:55 AM
Subject: Lace & Tatting

> Regarding "Lace and tatting" in Disney Comics for Dan "The Tatmeister":
>
> Carl Barks had an "effeminate" Dog-nosed man ask "Assistant Guard" Donald
to
> show him to the "Lace and Tatting Collection" in the Duckburg Museum, in
his
> story, "The golden Helmet" (in Donald Duck Nr. 408 issued in July, 1952).
>
> I hope some kind and generous DCML member can make the scans for him.
Thanks,
> Rob Klein
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Anders Christian Siveb¾k
Hi
I find you can't take magica from the postion of being a sorceress, just
because the other disney writers maybe saw her as that. Barks invented
her, and he invented her as sorceress - then it is so - IMO.

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
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