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From: "Fernando Ventura" <fernandopventura at uol.com.br>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 2:15 AM
Subject: More Disney manga!
> You can see this on that link:
>
http://www.tokyopop.com/dbpage.phppropertycode=MON&categorycode=BMG&page=int
> roduction
"We're sorry but the page you have requested at TOKYOPOP is not available.
This is probably because we have recently redesigned our site and therefore
the bookmark or search result you may have followed to get here is no longer
valid.
Please click here to go to the NEW & IMPROVED homepage for TOKYOPOP.com, or
you may begin a search of our new site by using the box in the upper right
hand corner of this page."
I'd recomment this link instead:
http://www.tokyopop.com/dbpage.php?propertycode=MON&categorycode=BMG
Stefan
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Topic: 200208
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Stefan Persson
More Disney manga!
Message 136 -
2002-08-24 at 10:13:28
Martin Olsen
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1050 - 4 msgs
Message 137 -
2002-08-24 at 13:56:15
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fernando Ventura" <fernandopventura at uol.com.br>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: More Disney manga!
> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 21:15:32 -0300
>
> Hi!!!
>
> I've read on www.omelete.com.br something about a new Disney manga: the
> comic book version of Monsters Inc.
...
> I don't know, but I understand that it'll be published in the US. One more
> time, PLEASE, if some american wants to trade it with brazilian comics,
> talk to me!!!
>
> Someone knows more about it?
>
Everything is possible, but I find it hard to believe that Disney will allow two different adaptations of the same movie to be published in the US.
Dark Horse Comics published an adaptation of Monsters Inc. last November:
http://www.darkhorse.com/products/profile.html?sku=11539
Martin
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> From: "Fernando Ventura" <fernandopventura at uol.com.br>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: More Disney manga!
> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 21:15:32 -0300
>
> Hi!!!
>
> I've read on www.omelete.com.br something about a new Disney manga: the
> comic book version of Monsters Inc.
...
> I don't know, but I understand that it'll be published in the US. One more
> time, PLEASE, if some american wants to trade it with brazilian comics,
> talk to me!!!
>
> Someone knows more about it?
>
Everything is possible, but I find it hard to believe that Disney will allow two different adaptations of the same movie to be published in the US.
Dark Horse Comics published an adaptation of Monsters Inc. last November:
http://www.darkhorse.com/products/profile.html?sku=11539
Martin
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Stefan Persson
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1050 - 4 msgs
Message 138 -
2002-08-24 at 14:49:03
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Olsen" <martin_olsen at post.tele.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #1050 - 4 msgs
> > I don't know, but I understand that it'll be published in the US. One
more
> > time, PLEASE, if some american wants to trade it with brazilian comics,
> > talk to me!!!
> >
> > Someone knows more about it?
> >
>
> Everything is possible, but I find it hard to believe that Disney will
allow two different adaptations of the same movie to be published in the US.
It seems that you can order the Japanese edition from here:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4063239535/ref=sr_aps_b_2/249-86767
17-6910739
Stefan
From: "Martin Olsen" <martin_olsen at post.tele.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #1050 - 4 msgs
> > I don't know, but I understand that it'll be published in the US. One
more
> > time, PLEASE, if some american wants to trade it with brazilian comics,
> > talk to me!!!
> >
> > Someone knows more about it?
> >
>
> Everything is possible, but I find it hard to believe that Disney will
allow two different adaptations of the same movie to be published in the US.
It seems that you can order the Japanese edition from here:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4063239535/ref=sr_aps_b_2/249-86767
17-6910739
Stefan
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
S. McDuck Page
Message 139 -
2002-08-24 at 14:49:57
UNDBKB at aol.com wrote:
>> Irritating! Now I'll have to update a lot of
>> links on my pages again. This is at least the
>> second time you move these pages.
>
> I am sure they have been moved for a GOOD REASON.
The reason is that he had to, because his unserious
WEB-space provider changed servers or something.
> I am just happy he has done the work.
> Stop complaining!!
Hey, hey, hey!!!
During the last few years I've had more than enough
experience with unserious WEB-space providers. For
instance were my WEB-pages at MSNBCi deleted because
they just decided to end their services. The last year
I have worked hard to reconstruct those pages. So when
the stupid actions of another web-space provider leads
to even more work for me I think I am in my rights to
be a bit irritated.
However my irritation goes towards Dan's WEB-space
provider only. Dan himself is completely innocent in
this mess.
Sigvald :-)
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>> Irritating! Now I'll have to update a lot of
>> links on my pages again. This is at least the
>> second time you move these pages.
>
> I am sure they have been moved for a GOOD REASON.
The reason is that he had to, because his unserious
WEB-space provider changed servers or something.
> I am just happy he has done the work.
> Stop complaining!!
Hey, hey, hey!!!
During the last few years I've had more than enough
experience with unserious WEB-space providers. For
instance were my WEB-pages at MSNBCi deleted because
they just decided to end their services. The last year
I have worked hard to reconstruct those pages. So when
the stupid actions of another web-space provider leads
to even more work for me I think I am in my rights to
be a bit irritated.
However my irritation goes towards Dan's WEB-space
provider only. Dan himself is completely innocent in
this mess.
Sigvald :-)
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Boers
Message 140 -
2002-08-24 at 16:18:06
SIMON:
> > I suspect that this is a double pun: Assuming that "oe" is pronounced
> > the same way in Afrikaans as it is in Dutch, what Scrooge heard was
> > not what English speakers would assume he heard by reading Don's dialog
> > ("I'm a bore"), but "I'm a boor". Either way, Scrooge's reaction to the
> > misunderstood word is appropriate!
>
> I hope that wasn't a slur on the Afrikaans race as a whole - I am of boer
> ancestory & find people make assumptions about my political & social views
Just in case the above was addressed to me, let me point out that I was
merely pointing out the two ways that an English-speaking person who
is not familiar with the word "Boer", like Scrooge seemed to be, would
perceive the word when they first heard it. Presumably, this was also
Don's intention in that gag, and if it was a slur (or, more likely,
a gibe) against anybody, it was against people who refuse to learn
foreign languages, filtering what they hear through their own language.
As for Boers being stereotyped as being associated with any kind of
political and social views, I wouldn't know anything about it.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Why did the chicken cross the Moebius strip?"
-----
> > I suspect that this is a double pun: Assuming that "oe" is pronounced
> > the same way in Afrikaans as it is in Dutch, what Scrooge heard was
> > not what English speakers would assume he heard by reading Don's dialog
> > ("I'm a bore"), but "I'm a boor". Either way, Scrooge's reaction to the
> > misunderstood word is appropriate!
>
> I hope that wasn't a slur on the Afrikaans race as a whole - I am of boer
> ancestory & find people make assumptions about my political & social views
Just in case the above was addressed to me, let me point out that I was
merely pointing out the two ways that an English-speaking person who
is not familiar with the word "Boer", like Scrooge seemed to be, would
perceive the word when they first heard it. Presumably, this was also
Don's intention in that gag, and if it was a slur (or, more likely,
a gibe) against anybody, it was against people who refuse to learn
foreign languages, filtering what they hear through their own language.
As for Boers being stereotyped as being associated with any kind of
political and social views, I wouldn't know anything about it.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Why did the chicken cross the Moebius strip?"
-----
Goofy313g
Magica de Spell
Message 141 -
2002-08-24 at 22:30:48
Hi!
I scanned these drawings of Magica I made because I offered the original drawing to a friend.
I give u the url, I thought this might interrest some people here...
http://goofy313g.free.fr/myart/magica1.jpg
http://goofy313g.free.fr/myart/magica2.jpg
(the first one is the second one before it was finished)
bye
Gilles MAURICE
I scanned these drawings of Magica I made because I offered the original drawing to a friend.
I give u the url, I thought this might interrest some people here...
http://goofy313g.free.fr/myart/magica1.jpg
http://goofy313g.free.fr/myart/magica2.jpg
(the first one is the second one before it was finished)
bye
Gilles MAURICE
Dan Shane
S. McDuck Page
Message 142 -
2002-08-25 at 15:16:12
SIGVALD WROTE:
> However my irritation goes towards Dan's WEB-space
> provider only. Dan himself is completely innocent in
> this mess.
AND I RESPOND:
Well, not completely. I' the one who made the choice of BellSouth as my ISP
so I could get DSL service. I don't regret that choice to get the speed,
but I knew going in that at the time BellSouth did not really know how to
run a network. Being a network administrator myself (currently between
assignments), I hoped they would eventually figure things out, and now they
are getting close. Unfortunately, to fix some things they have to "break"
others, and the hosting services fall into that category.
I'm pretty confident that this is the last move the pages will ever have to
make. I'm sorry for the inconvenience to all the faithful visitors. Maybe
I can make it up to you by adding some content in the next few weeks. How
would everyone like to see a few pictures of Don in his studio, surrounded
by his Ducks?
> However my irritation goes towards Dan's WEB-space
> provider only. Dan himself is completely innocent in
> this mess.
AND I RESPOND:
Well, not completely. I' the one who made the choice of BellSouth as my ISP
so I could get DSL service. I don't regret that choice to get the speed,
but I knew going in that at the time BellSouth did not really know how to
run a network. Being a network administrator myself (currently between
assignments), I hoped they would eventually figure things out, and now they
are getting close. Unfortunately, to fix some things they have to "break"
others, and the hosting services fall into that category.
I'm pretty confident that this is the last move the pages will ever have to
make. I'm sorry for the inconvenience to all the faithful visitors. Maybe
I can make it up to you by adding some content in the next few weeks. How
would everyone like to see a few pictures of Don in his studio, surrounded
by his Ducks?
Olivier
Magica de Spell
Message 143 -
2002-08-25 at 16:37:22
Hi everyone!
Gilles:!
>> I scanned these drawings of Magica I made because I offered the original
>>drawing to a friend.
>> I give u the url, I thought this might interrest some people here...
Thanks!
>> (the first one is the second one before it was finished)
Uh, yeah, right. :b Work in progress.
Very nice! I love the old paper color & the shading (especially the hair).
Olivier
:)
Gilles:!
>> I scanned these drawings of Magica I made because I offered the original
>>drawing to a friend.
>> I give u the url, I thought this might interrest some people here...
Thanks!
>> (the first one is the second one before it was finished)
Uh, yeah, right. :b Work in progress.
Very nice! I love the old paper color & the shading (especially the hair).
Olivier
:)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
S. McDuck Page
Message 144 -
2002-08-25 at 17:53:05
>> However my irritation goes towards Dan's
>> WEB-space provider only. Dan himself is
>> completely innocent in this mess.
>
> AND I RESPOND:
>
> I'm pretty confident that this is the last move
> the pages will ever have to make.
Let's hope so!
> Maybe I can make it up to you by adding some
> content in the next few weeks. How would everyone
> like to see a few pictures of Don in his studio,
> surrounded by his Ducks?
That would be great!!!
Sigvald :-)
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>> WEB-space provider only. Dan himself is
>> completely innocent in this mess.
>
> AND I RESPOND:
>
> I'm pretty confident that this is the last move
> the pages will ever have to make.
Let's hope so!
> Maybe I can make it up to you by adding some
> content in the next few weeks. How would everyone
> like to see a few pictures of Don in his studio,
> surrounded by his Ducks?
That would be great!!!
Sigvald :-)
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Two years ago since Barks died
Message 145 -
2002-08-25 at 17:58:57
Hi all!
Today (August 25th 2002) two years has passed since
the death of "The great Duck artist" - Carl Barks.
I'll mark the day by reading a few of his great
stories. What about you?
Sigvald :-)
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Today (August 25th 2002) two years has passed since
the death of "The great Duck artist" - Carl Barks.
I'll mark the day by reading a few of his great
stories. What about you?
Sigvald :-)
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Expanding style in Disney Comics!
Message 146 -
2002-08-25 at 23:33:50
Hello my friends!
As everybody around here knows I'm having contac with Mr Renato Canini and
getting lot's of info from his 70's Disney stories.
His style isn't close to the tradicional Disney style, as Cavazzano wasn't,
as Barks wasn't and as many, many others aren't conected with the
tradicional way to do an Disney figure at the time they've made. Al this
artists, helped to EXPAND the Disney style of drawing and helped to
stabilish new GRAPHIC frontiers to Disney comics and to Disney in general.
It's not important if Disney didn't permited Canini to continues his drawing
in Disney Comics...'cause after SIX YEARS publishing into an OFFICIAL Disney
comic book (and still with republishing of his work), Canini presented an
graphic expansion to the Disney style that I just saw on Cavazzano and on
recent times, when they go behind famous cartunists to helped then to
develop new designs for his movies, as Hercules, the Genie in Aladdin,
Atlantis, etc.
So...in the opinion of yours, what artists went more distant in the frontier
of the Disney style in the time of his/her production? (For example, today
Cavazanno's art aren't impressive today as it was in the 70's and 80's,
'cause lot's of drawers try to do exactily the SAME style.)
Remeber, talking in graphic terms, of Design and graphism. :-)
I think it's an marvelous point of discussion! And I'm sure you'll help me
to develop an better look on that subject to my monography!
Fernando!
(someone with an "under stress" Disney style to comics! ;-)
As everybody around here knows I'm having contac with Mr Renato Canini and
getting lot's of info from his 70's Disney stories.
His style isn't close to the tradicional Disney style, as Cavazzano wasn't,
as Barks wasn't and as many, many others aren't conected with the
tradicional way to do an Disney figure at the time they've made. Al this
artists, helped to EXPAND the Disney style of drawing and helped to
stabilish new GRAPHIC frontiers to Disney comics and to Disney in general.
It's not important if Disney didn't permited Canini to continues his drawing
in Disney Comics...'cause after SIX YEARS publishing into an OFFICIAL Disney
comic book (and still with republishing of his work), Canini presented an
graphic expansion to the Disney style that I just saw on Cavazzano and on
recent times, when they go behind famous cartunists to helped then to
develop new designs for his movies, as Hercules, the Genie in Aladdin,
Atlantis, etc.
So...in the opinion of yours, what artists went more distant in the frontier
of the Disney style in the time of his/her production? (For example, today
Cavazanno's art aren't impressive today as it was in the 70's and 80's,
'cause lot's of drawers try to do exactily the SAME style.)
Remeber, talking in graphic terms, of Design and graphism. :-)
I think it's an marvelous point of discussion! And I'm sure you'll help me
to develop an better look on that subject to my monography!
Fernando!
(someone with an "under stress" Disney style to comics! ;-)
Lgiver
Magica drawing by Gilles Maurice
Message 147 -
2002-08-26 at 08:01:59
I think Gilles Maurice has drawn Magica just as Carl Barks
wished he could have in his stories. I recall reading an
interview of Barks, when he complained that in one of
his earliest stories (Lifeguard Daze, WDC&S #33, June 1943)
the editors made him flatten the chest of the lady duck
Donald was trying to impress. This meant modifying
quite a few panels! I read that this story preceeded
the creation of Daisy Duck.
Best wishes, Larry Giver.
wished he could have in his stories. I recall reading an
interview of Barks, when he complained that in one of
his earliest stories (Lifeguard Daze, WDC&S #33, June 1943)
the editors made him flatten the chest of the lady duck
Donald was trying to impress. This meant modifying
quite a few panels! I read that this story preceeded
the creation of Daisy Duck.
Best wishes, Larry Giver.
Gerd Syllwasschy
Daisy [was: Magica drawing by Gilles Maurice]
Message 148 -
2002-08-26 at 11:13:22
Larry:
> [WDC&S #33, June 1943] I read that this story preceeded
> the creation of Daisy Duck.
Not quite. Actually, Daisy first appeared in the 1940 animated cartoon
"Mr. Duck Steps Out" (for which Barks was the story director, btw).
Also, Al Taliaferro had been using her in the Donald Duck newspaper
strip since 1940. It is true, however, that it was only three months
later, in WDC 36, that Barks first showed Daisy in one of his comics.
Flat-bosomed, needless to say.
Gerd
> [WDC&S #33, June 1943] I read that this story preceeded
> the creation of Daisy Duck.
Not quite. Actually, Daisy first appeared in the 1940 animated cartoon
"Mr. Duck Steps Out" (for which Barks was the story director, btw).
Also, Al Taliaferro had been using her in the Donald Duck newspaper
strip since 1940. It is true, however, that it was only three months
later, in WDC 36, that Barks first showed Daisy in one of his comics.
Flat-bosomed, needless to say.
Gerd
H.W.Fluks
Boers
Message 149 -
2002-08-26 at 11:23:00
Simon de Beer:
> I hope that wasn't a slur on the Afrikaans race as a whole -
> I am of boer ancestory & find people make assumptions about
> my political & social views
I think calling the Afrikaans people a *race* is only encouraging people to
make assumptions about political and social views...
--Harry.
> I hope that wasn't a slur on the Afrikaans race as a whole -
> I am of boer ancestory & find people make assumptions about
> my political & social views
I think calling the Afrikaans people a *race* is only encouraging people to
make assumptions about political and social views...
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Magica de Spell
Message 150 -
2002-08-26 at 11:34:07
Gilles:
> I scanned these drawings of Magica I made
> http://goofy313g.free.fr/myart/magica1.jpg
> http://goofy313g.free.fr/myart/magica2.jpg
Very nice! Two remarks though:
1. "Sirse" is spelled the wrong way. Circe would look like KIPKH in Greek.
2. Magica's breasts are very... er... un-Disney... 8-)
--Harry.
> I scanned these drawings of Magica I made
> http://goofy313g.free.fr/myart/magica1.jpg
> http://goofy313g.free.fr/myart/magica2.jpg
Very nice! Two remarks though:
1. "Sirse" is spelled the wrong way. Circe would look like KIPKH in Greek.
2. Magica's breasts are very... er... un-Disney... 8-)
--Harry.