>From: "Frank Bubacz" It's in The Flying Dutchman (US 25). The message was
>written by Scrooge, who wanted to spoil Donald's secret fishing.
There was no indication that Scrooge wrote that (although it is possible),
he looks as puzzled by the bottle as Donald. Finnish translation says "the
next time you open a bottle, make sure it contains Kapkonst". :-/
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Timo Ronkainen
The next time you open a bottle....
Message 91 -
2002-08-16 at 20:06:33
Timo Ronkainen
A Gyro Question?
Message 92 -
2002-08-16 at 20:18:09
>At first, I thought he was a kind of parrot,
>but that wouldn't make much sense, as parrots
>haven't got white feathers,
Well, there are white parrots. Some "cockatoos" are white. Psittacus
Festivus, Festive Parrot is white. I'm not expert on parrots, just checked
what there is in internet on subject. Don't ask more about parrots :-)
But we must remember that Barks had no influence on how his comics should be
colored, so some colorist/printer's plate maker just decided that Gyro is
white.
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>but that wouldn't make much sense, as parrots
>haven't got white feathers,
Well, there are white parrots. Some "cockatoos" are white. Psittacus
Festivus, Festive Parrot is white. I'm not expert on parrots, just checked
what there is in internet on subject. Don't ask more about parrots :-)
But we must remember that Barks had no influence on how his comics should be
colored, so some colorist/printer's plate maker just decided that Gyro is
white.
Timo
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Message 93 -
2002-08-16 at 20:27:38
I keep getting the klez virus at least several times week. There is a
statistic that indicates it is so widespread that one in thirty emails are
now transmitting it. Fortunately I never see the virus. My Norton Antivirus
allows me to quarantine any messages containing it. It is important to keep
the antivirus programs up-to-date.
I don't recall that any of the virus containing messages originated with
DCML.
gwtank at atiinternet.com
statistic that indicates it is so widespread that one in thirty emails are
now transmitting it. Fortunately I never see the virus. My Norton Antivirus
allows me to quarantine any messages containing it. It is important to keep
the antivirus programs up-to-date.
I don't recall that any of the virus containing messages originated with
DCML.
gwtank at atiinternet.com
Goofy313g
A Gyro question?
Message 94 -
2002-08-16 at 20:42:16
Let's say he is a Birdbeak :-)
I think Gyro is an anthropomised chicken.
His former hair was red, I think, before becoming orange and now blond (more
rarely brown) which looks like a cockscomb.
A funny detail : he's got human feet (well, not exactly... they still have 4
toes, but i'm sure you can find humans with 4 toes :-))
Marin's "baby gyro", has bird feet with two fingers!!! this looks more like
bird feet, not chicken feet. His brazilian name is "Pardal", which means
sparrow, a little bird... He's got several cousins, uncles and aunt which
seem to be other species than chicken (pardalina, colibri...).
Don Rosa's duck family tree's Gretchen Grebe, Casey Coot's wife, seems to be
of the same species than Gyro....
So, if someone asks me what is Gyro's species, I'd answer I DON'T KNOW!!!
:-)
I think Gyro is an anthropomised chicken.
His former hair was red, I think, before becoming orange and now blond (more
rarely brown) which looks like a cockscomb.
A funny detail : he's got human feet (well, not exactly... they still have 4
toes, but i'm sure you can find humans with 4 toes :-))
Marin's "baby gyro", has bird feet with two fingers!!! this looks more like
bird feet, not chicken feet. His brazilian name is "Pardal", which means
sparrow, a little bird... He's got several cousins, uncles and aunt which
seem to be other species than chicken (pardalina, colibri...).
Don Rosa's duck family tree's Gretchen Grebe, Casey Coot's wife, seems to be
of the same species than Gyro....
So, if someone asks me what is Gyro's species, I'd answer I DON'T KNOW!!!
:-)
Frank Bubacz
The next time you open a bottle....
Message 95 -
2002-08-16 at 22:06:24
>From: "timo ronkainen"
>>The message was written by Scrooge, who wanted to spoil Donald's secret
>>fishing.
>
>There was no indication that Scrooge wrote that (although it is possible),
>he looks as puzzled by the bottle as Donald.
Oops! I mixed up that bottle with a sack of potatoes... Of course, Scrooge
had nothing to do with it.
As for Gyro: I'd say he's a species quite of his own. :-)
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>>The message was written by Scrooge, who wanted to spoil Donald's secret
>>fishing.
>
>There was no indication that Scrooge wrote that (although it is possible),
>he looks as puzzled by the bottle as Donald.
Oops! I mixed up that bottle with a sack of potatoes... Of course, Scrooge
had nothing to do with it.
As for Gyro: I'd say he's a species quite of his own. :-)
Frank
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Gurgleurp -soda
Message 96 -
2002-08-17 at 10:45:09
Timo:
> Gurgleurp beverage was introduced in WDC 282 "Bubbleweight Champion" by
> Barks.
> Have this Donald's favorite soda pop been mentioned any other story by
name?
> How about Daisy Duck -story The Dainty Daredevil, where Graphologist
> suggests Daisy should be an air acrobat? In the end she becomes a model
for
> advertisements. Last panel shows photo session where beverage ad is being
> shot. In Finnish translation Daisy poses for "Sihi-juoma" which is
> Gurgleurp. Was this the case in original too?
In the original version it is called "Fizz-Whizz Cola".
Gerd
> Gurgleurp beverage was introduced in WDC 282 "Bubbleweight Champion" by
> Barks.
> Have this Donald's favorite soda pop been mentioned any other story by
name?
> How about Daisy Duck -story The Dainty Daredevil, where Graphologist
> suggests Daisy should be an air acrobat? In the end she becomes a model
for
> advertisements. Last panel shows photo session where beverage ad is being
> shot. In Finnish translation Daisy poses for "Sihi-juoma" which is
> Gurgleurp. Was this the case in original too?
In the original version it is called "Fizz-Whizz Cola".
Gerd
Timo Ronkainen
Gurgleurp -soda
Message 97 -
2002-08-17 at 12:21:51
> > In Finnish translation Daisy poses for "Sihi-juoma" which is
> > Gurgleurp. Was this the case in original too?
>
>In the original version it is called "Fizz-Whizz Cola".
So Barks didn't use Gurgleurp in that case. Thanks for the info!
Was Gurgleurp mentioned in any other story by Barks after/before
Bubbleweight Champion?
How about D-coded stories where Donald had severe soda-drinking problems?
D98061 by Pat and Carol McGreal and Vicar for instance. Did original script
use Gurgleurp?
There was also one other story, which I haven't found yet; in opening scene
Daisy founds Donald drinking sodas sprawling on sofa with huge pile of empty
bottles laying on the floor. What story is this?
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> > Gurgleurp. Was this the case in original too?
>
>In the original version it is called "Fizz-Whizz Cola".
So Barks didn't use Gurgleurp in that case. Thanks for the info!
Was Gurgleurp mentioned in any other story by Barks after/before
Bubbleweight Champion?
How about D-coded stories where Donald had severe soda-drinking problems?
D98061 by Pat and Carol McGreal and Vicar for instance. Did original script
use Gurgleurp?
There was also one other story, which I haven't found yet; in opening scene
Daisy founds Donald drinking sodas sprawling on sofa with huge pile of empty
bottles laying on the floor. What story is this?
Timo
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Gyro
Message 98 -
2002-08-17 at 18:01:26
As far as I can remember, Carl Barks said (when he was a reader of DCML and
we had a similar discussion here) that Gyro is a chicken.
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Colorists deciding things
Message 99 -
2002-08-17 at 23:21:15
Timo said Barks had no inputs regarding color---the colorists and printers
decided on color.
I don't know how much say the artists had, but often a
reprint has a
different colorist than the original printing, and it's interesting to
compare the
different colors used. Especially US #6, "Tralla La"; in the original
US #6,
published by Dell in June, 1954, the ducks of Tralla La are all colored
yellow, which seemed reasonable since they lived in Asia near Tibet.
They're
also yellow in the big "US Life & Times" Barks reprint printed by Celestial
Arts in 1981 & 1987. But in the recent Gladstone reprints they are left
uncolored and thus appear the same as Scrooge, Donald, and HDL.
It's curious who made these decisions.
It's often disappointing when the colorists don't color some
details.
One of Don Rosa's best "inside jokes" was in Cash Flow, page 13, panel 6.
There are 2 pictures, labeled "A Rainbow" and "Another Rainbow"; Rosa only
drew a few concentric semi-circles for these pictures. These labels
trigger our
memory of Barks' "Lost in the Andes" opening panel, with labels "A Rock"
and "Another Rock" in the museum display case, and another inside joke was
that "Another Rainbow" was another name of the Gladstone publishing
company that frist published this story. But the lazy colorist never
colored
these pictures, so they don't even look like rainbows! So it's clear
that Don
doesn't have control for all the coloring of his artwork.
I just noticed that the giant Celestial Arts reprint of 11
Barks' Scrooge
stories was printed in Singapore. We need something similar for Don Rosa's
recent stories---the ones that haven't been published in English yet.
Best wishes, ---Larry Giver.
decided on color.
I don't know how much say the artists had, but often a
reprint has a
different colorist than the original printing, and it's interesting to
compare the
different colors used. Especially US #6, "Tralla La"; in the original
US #6,
published by Dell in June, 1954, the ducks of Tralla La are all colored
yellow, which seemed reasonable since they lived in Asia near Tibet.
They're
also yellow in the big "US Life & Times" Barks reprint printed by Celestial
Arts in 1981 & 1987. But in the recent Gladstone reprints they are left
uncolored and thus appear the same as Scrooge, Donald, and HDL.
It's curious who made these decisions.
It's often disappointing when the colorists don't color some
details.
One of Don Rosa's best "inside jokes" was in Cash Flow, page 13, panel 6.
There are 2 pictures, labeled "A Rainbow" and "Another Rainbow"; Rosa only
drew a few concentric semi-circles for these pictures. These labels
trigger our
memory of Barks' "Lost in the Andes" opening panel, with labels "A Rock"
and "Another Rock" in the museum display case, and another inside joke was
that "Another Rainbow" was another name of the Gladstone publishing
company that frist published this story. But the lazy colorist never
colored
these pictures, so they don't even look like rainbows! So it's clear
that Don
doesn't have control for all the coloring of his artwork.
I just noticed that the giant Celestial Arts reprint of 11
Barks' Scrooge
stories was printed in Singapore. We need something similar for Don Rosa's
recent stories---the ones that haven't been published in English yet.
Best wishes, ---Larry Giver.
Francesco Gerbaldo
Gyro
Message 100 -
2002-08-18 at 13:45:29
From: "Claudio Eckert"
> As far as I can remember, Carl Barks said (when he was a reader of DCML
and
> we had a similar discussion here) that Gyro is a chicken.
I don't know what Barks said but I know that the Disney Italy think that
Gyro is an eagle.
Francesco
> As far as I can remember, Carl Barks said (when he was a reader of DCML
and
> we had a similar discussion here) that Gyro is a chicken.
I don't know what Barks said but I know that the Disney Italy think that
Gyro is an eagle.
Francesco
Willem Hajenius
A Gyro Question?
Message 101 -
2002-08-18 at 13:54:42
> Just what IS Gyro Gearloose's race?
This issue popped up from time to time in the Dutch Donald Duck weekly too, as a reader's letter, in
which the editors always (AFAIK) replied Gyro is a crane (Dutch 'kraanvogel'). Given the current
discussion in which at the time of writing no clear-cut answer has yet been found, I wonder whether
the Dutch editors just made it up long ago, to have something to say should the question arise? Or
did they really have a good reason for their answer?
Alexander.
This issue popped up from time to time in the Dutch Donald Duck weekly too, as a reader's letter, in
which the editors always (AFAIK) replied Gyro is a crane (Dutch 'kraanvogel'). Given the current
discussion in which at the time of writing no clear-cut answer has yet been found, I wonder whether
the Dutch editors just made it up long ago, to have something to say should the question arise? Or
did they really have a good reason for their answer?
Alexander.
Goofy313g
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Message 102 -
2002-08-18 at 14:29:55
Hi!
Thanks to all the people who send me scans and informations about the disney
characters' relatives every day :-)
The trees are growing very fast, those days :-)
I now have all the characters I need in my Cow/Horsecollar tree, except one :
Clarabelle's cousin Petunia, from "La cugina Petunia" (I M 34-1), from 1996,
by Corteggiani and Mastantuono.
The story has been published in :
Minni & company 34 (1996) and
Storie col fiocco 2 (1999)
According to the descritpion of this story in dcml, this cousin seems to be a
police inspector.
Please, dear Italian friends, I DO NEED a scan of this character! ! !
She is the only missing character in this tree, and I'd be very happy if this
tree was really finnished, filled, complete ! ! !
Thank u
Gilles MAURICE
Thanks to all the people who send me scans and informations about the disney
characters' relatives every day :-)
The trees are growing very fast, those days :-)
I now have all the characters I need in my Cow/Horsecollar tree, except one :
Clarabelle's cousin Petunia, from "La cugina Petunia" (I M 34-1), from 1996,
by Corteggiani and Mastantuono.
The story has been published in :
Minni & company 34 (1996) and
Storie col fiocco 2 (1999)
According to the descritpion of this story in dcml, this cousin seems to be a
police inspector.
Please, dear Italian friends, I DO NEED a scan of this character! ! !
She is the only missing character in this tree, and I'd be very happy if this
tree was really finnished, filled, complete ! ! !
Thank u
Gilles MAURICE
Germund Silvegren
Colorists deciding things
Message 103 -
2002-08-18 at 16:03:41
>Timo said Barks had no inputs regarding color---the colorists and printers
>decided on color. I don't know how much say the artists had, but often a
>reprint has a different colorist than the original printing, and it's
>interesting to compare the different colors used.
The DELL/GK artists were able to influence the coloring of their stories.
When they felt the need to give the colorists specific instructions they
would write notes in blue pen in the margins of the art. The prime example
that comes to mind is the WDC#425 Paul Murry story where the original art
has very specific instructions regarding the color he wanted for the
northern lights on the last page. I have no idea if Barks ever used this
opportunity though.
/Germund
>decided on color. I don't know how much say the artists had, but often a
>reprint has a different colorist than the original printing, and it's
>interesting to compare the different colors used.
The DELL/GK artists were able to influence the coloring of their stories.
When they felt the need to give the colorists specific instructions they
would write notes in blue pen in the margins of the art. The prime example
that comes to mind is the WDC#425 Paul Murry story where the original art
has very specific instructions regarding the color he wanted for the
northern lights on the last page. I have no idea if Barks ever used this
opportunity though.
/Germund
Timo Ronkainen
Colorists deciding things
Message 104 -
2002-08-18 at 18:23:32
>From: Germund Silvegren The DELL/GK artists were able to influence the
>coloring of their stories.
>When they felt the need to give the colorists specific instructions
Indeed this was the case, but it was pretty futile, since sometimes artist's
notes were cut off before they were given to colorist. I don't remeber if
this thing was mentioned on this list before or did I read it somewhere
else.
And when translations are recolered, it's obvious that colorist seldom sees
translation - text in speech bubbles have been omitted. Look at this
example:
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~tkokkila/ankka.htm
Picture on left: "red car doesn't fit well on this terrain" "Blue mountain"
(sign) Pict on right: "Blue car doesn't fit well on this terrain" and sign
says: "Red mountains".
Timo
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>coloring of their stories.
>When they felt the need to give the colorists specific instructions
Indeed this was the case, but it was pretty futile, since sometimes artist's
notes were cut off before they were given to colorist. I don't remeber if
this thing was mentioned on this list before or did I read it somewhere
else.
And when translations are recolered, it's obvious that colorist seldom sees
translation - text in speech bubbles have been omitted. Look at this
example:
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~tkokkila/ankka.htm
Picture on left: "red car doesn't fit well on this terrain" "Blue mountain"
(sign) Pict on right: "Blue car doesn't fit well on this terrain" and sign
says: "Red mountains".
Timo
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
About Donald's parents
Message 105 -
2002-08-19 at 00:03:23
Hi all!
In "Lo$ part X - The Invader of Fort Duckburg" which
takes place in 1902 we can see that Scrooges sisters,
including Donalds mother Hortense, look forward to
meet "cowboys" in Calisota. And shortly after the
arrival in Duckburg Hortense meets Quackmoe Duck and
they fell in love.
In the beginning "Lo$ part XI - The Empire-Builder
from Calisota" - in 1908, Hortense says that Quackmore
is her fianc?.
So according to the original chapters of Lo$ this
seems to be an undramatic love affair. However in "The
Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" which takes place in 1906
Quackmore is NOT mentioned at all, and Hortense seems
to be as interested in "cowboys" as before she met
Quackmore in 1902.
Can anyone here at DCML explain this?
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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In "Lo$ part X - The Invader of Fort Duckburg" which
takes place in 1902 we can see that Scrooges sisters,
including Donalds mother Hortense, look forward to
meet "cowboys" in Calisota. And shortly after the
arrival in Duckburg Hortense meets Quackmoe Duck and
they fell in love.
In the beginning "Lo$ part XI - The Empire-Builder
from Calisota" - in 1908, Hortense says that Quackmore
is her fianc?.
So according to the original chapters of Lo$ this
seems to be an undramatic love affair. However in "The
Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" which takes place in 1906
Quackmore is NOT mentioned at all, and Hortense seems
to be as interested in "cowboys" as before she met
Quackmore in 1902.
Can anyone here at DCML explain this?
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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