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Ari Seppi
As mentioned earlier on the list, Daan Jippes visited Helsinki Book Fair
today. And makes a couple of more appearances tomorrow.

Based on the previous Rosa's visits, I expected the signing events to be
crowded (of course not as crowded as Rosa's but a bit crowded anyway).
Because of that, I was very surprised to see how few people there were.
On the beginning of the first signing event there were four of us signature
hunters. Nice part of it was that Jippes had time to do a drawing for almost
everybody. The funniest drawing in the first event went to a woman
who got the signature and the drawing for his son. Son's name was Elvis
so Jippes drew Donald with you-know-what-hair. :-)

The second event was more crowded, but there was still time for
drawings. I guess Disney comics artists have to make a Kalevala
story to be popular in Finland. (Oh wait, "Seven Brothers" story
might also work.)
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
Marco Barlotti
I've read the Italian translation ("Topolino e l'incendiario") of the story
D 93559 "The firemaker" ("Dem Feuerteufel auf der Spur" in LTB 229).

This story tells about Mickey Mouse chasing a firebug. In case anybody here
knows the original version, or a different translation, I have a couple of
questions.

At the beginning, Chief O'Hara rings up Mickey for help. This is very
common, as we all know. Very unusual is however Mickey's answer: OK, he
says, I'm going to help you. But I'm a private detective, I'm currently
working on a (paid) case, and if I have to use my time to help you then you
too must pay.

This is even common sense (who hasn't wondered at least once HOW in the
world Mickey Mouse earns his money? Donald Duck is working much more often
than Mickey, and he is always broke, while Mickey (almost) never has
problems with money!). It is only right that the police pays for Mickey's
help, but this is the first (and, to be honest, also the last) time that he
asks for payment.
So the first question is: is this the original dialogue? Are there other
stories where Mickey gets paid by the police for his help?

Then the plot carries on, and we reach the end. No more mention of the
payment. But in the last three panels there is a strange dialogue between
Mickey and O'Hara. O'Hara offers Mickey a steak, or a mixed grill, or a
toast; Mickey refuses and says he will go home to eat a raw carrot. There
is probably a reasonable pun on the misuse of fire (remember? The whole
story is about a firebug), that explains why Mickey won't eat a steak
(cooked on fire) or even a mixed grill (cooked on fire) but why not a toast?
Again, I'd like to know whwther the dialogue was changed. Maybe there was
some pun on the payment? The matter of the payment is not mentioned anymore
after the beginning of the story.

OK, that's all. If the dialoge was not changed this is a very partcular MM
story, and I thought it was worth mentioning. So here comes the last, but
not least, question: who wrote that story? Did the same person write other
stories, and which?

Thanks everybody for your help!

Marco

http://www.cce.unifi.it/~marcobar/Comics
Ari Seppi
Marco:
>At the beginning, Chief O'Hara rings up Mickey for help. This is very
>common, as we all know. Very unusual is however Mickey's answer: OK, he
>says, I'm going to help you. But I'm a private detective, I'm currently
>working on a (paid) case, and if I have to use my time to help you then
>you too must pay.
>
>So the first question is: is this the original dialogue? Are there other
>stories where Mickey gets paid by the police for his help?

I don't have the original or even Finnish reprint at hand, but I wouldn't be
surprised if Mickey really asked for money. After all in these Mickey
Mystery -stories
[ http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/comp2.php?lg=0&default_o=1&ser=Mickey+Mystery ]
Mickey has a detective agency of his own, he dresses like a traditional
detective and the stories are more Philip Marlowe like than usual
Mickey stories.

What is really a pity is that Mickey being so unpopular in Finland,
this series was not completely published here.

>Then the plot carries on, and we reach the end. No more mention of the
>payment. But in the last three panels there is a strange dialogue between
>Mickey and O'Hara. O'Hara offers Mickey a steak, or a mixed grill, or a
>toast; Mickey refuses and says he will go home to eat a raw carrot. There
>is probably a reasonable pun on the misuse of fire (remember? The whole
>story is about a firebug), that explains why Mickey won't eat a steak
>(cooked on fire) or even a mixed grill (cooked on fire) but why not a toast?

I seem to remember that Finnish reprint had the same end discussion so
that was probably in the original as well. And as for the toast, well, toasts
are usually toasted which is fire/heat related.

--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
Sigvald
Hi all!
Almost everytime I open my mailbox there is 2-3 viruses with D.U.C.K.hunter-names conected to them. So I am now about to be really fed up of this virus shit!!! If this is not stopped soon I'll consider leaving this group!!!
I say this because I believe that some of YOU can stop this ness if you really wants to. I think that an expert like Soeren Krarup Olesen should send a mail to whoever is the host of the infected Greek in Korinth and ask them to end their services for that bas....
Sigvald :-)
Stefan Persson
----- Original Message -----
From: <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:45 PM
Subject: I am about to be really fed up of the virus shit!!!

> Almost everytime I open my mailbox there is 2-3 viruses with
D.U.C.K.hunter-names conected to them. So I am now about to be really fed up
of this virus shit!!! If this is not stopped soon I'll consider leaving this
group!!!

That would probably not solve the problem: the one with the infected
computer will (probably) still have your address in his address book, and
the virus might not even come from someone on this list.

Stefan
SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 10/26/2002 11:48:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sigvald at duckburg.dk writes:

>
> Almost everytime I open my mailbox there is 2-3 viruses with
> D.U.C.K.hunter-names conected to them. So I am now about to be really fed
> up of this virus shit!!! If this is not stopped soon I'll consider leaving
> this group!!!
>

bye, sorry to see you go
althought leaving the list probably wont change the amount of viruses
you get

Steven Rowe - who gets no viruses from this list
Goofy313g
Hi!!!

I found four books in a bookshop in Aix en Provence that i'll index when i've time :
*"La fabuleuse histoire de Mickey", Le livre de Paris, 1978 (1re ?dition : 1970)
*"Bandes Dessin?es - 1932-1951", Hachette Edi-Monde, 1981
(both indexed in coa as "Grands albums blancs Le Livre de Paris/Hachette")
* two albums of the collection "l'?ge d'or de Mickey" : "Mickey et l'?le volante " and "Mickey agent secret" (i already had "Mickey sur la piste du gorille")
Fran?ois, i also found but didn't buy albums of Pascal "Mezzo" Mesemberg and pirus. i didn't know they had made cimicbooks. There was even a book that published drawings by mezzo, and among them a non-disney drawing published in PM (the one with the thumb-men)

entitled "des personnages "historiques"", with gottfredson's characters, the date of their appearances, their french names and their original names... (i'll list them in another mail)

In coa, you say that Dr Vulter's french name is "Laurent Outang"
In the "des personnages "historiques"" pages, we see that his french name is simply "Docteur Vulter", and that there is indeed a "Laurent-Houtant", which is the french name for a cat character with box gloves called "Creamo Catnera", who appeared in 1931...
you should correct this...

In "Bandes Dessin?es - 1932-1951", all the bucky bug silly symphonies are published!!! there is even a map of their city, Junkville, and Flyburg city, that i'll probably add in my maps section...

Au revoir!!!
Gilles MAURICE
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/
Goofy313g
Here is the list of all the characters which appear on the three pages entitled "Des personnages "historiques"", from "La fabuleuse histoire de Mickey":
date: english name (translated french name ) ; description when needed
1930: Katt Nipp (Kipp)
1930: Mr Slicker (Ratino)
1930: Sylvester Shyster (Me Chicaneau)
1930: Uncle Mortimer (Oncle Radeville) (a mouse character with a moustache)
1931: Ruffhouse Rat (Ratapoil); a rat character who looks like Mortimer/Montmorency/Slicker with "BB" on his pants.
1931: Creamo Catnera (Laurent-Houtant)
1932: Bucky Bug (Bucky)
1932: Mayor Bugg (Le Maire)
1932: Prof. Ecks and Doublex (Prof. Ixe et Doublixe)
1932: Captain Churchmouse (Capitaine Rademer)
1933: Mortimer Mouse (Oncle Mortimer); the picture given for Uncle Mortimer in Per Starback's site... they seem to make a difference between the two uncle mortimer's
1933: Tanglefoot (Trotte-Menu)
1933: Mr Gloomy (Badelel)
1933: Captain Doberman (Capitaine Fendelair)
1934: Don Jollio (Don Jollio) ; a mexican dogface with moustache
1935: Mr Squinch (Latrique)
1935: Max Hare (Max le Li?vre)
1935: Toby Tortoise (Tobie la Tortue)
1935: Elmer (Elmer) ; the elephant
1935: Inky, Calico, Fluff (Chichi, Chachat, Titi) ; the three orphan kittens
1935: Dr Vulter (Docteur Vulter)
1936: Oscar (Oscar) ; the ostrich
1936: Faucon (Trigger Hawkes) ; a dogface with a cigarette in his mouth
1936: Big Bad Wolf (Grand Loup)
1936: Dr Einmug (Prof. Mirandus)
1937: Little Hiawatha (Hiawatha)
1939: Joe Piper (Chalumeau)
1939: Mr Casey (M. Casey, d?tective)
1939: The "Blot" (Le Fantome Noir)
1939: Chief O'hara (Comissaire Finot)
1947: Pflip (Flip)
1947: Eaga Beewa (Iga Biva)

If someone needs scans, Rich for instance, i'll be happy to make you some...
bye!
Gilles
Søren Krarup Olesen
SIGVALD:

> I say this because I believe that some of YOU can stop this ness if
> you really wants to. I think that an expert like Soeren Krarup Olesen
> should send a mail to whoever is the host of the infected Greek in
> Korinth and ask them to end their services for that bas....

I'll be happy to do so. Can you please next time forward some of the
infected mails to me, then I'll write a letter to the Greek provider.

S?ren
Goofy313g
Why don't you use a note book made of *paper*, this good old paper, to note email adresses. That's what i use to do, that what we all shoud do, and that the only way to avoid this *shit*, as sigvald call them.
That'd be so sad, sigvald, if you leave us... The only winner would be this $%?*?@#! virus!!!
See you!
Gilles
Søren Krarup Olesen
STEVEN + SIGVALD:

Sorry, but I have to respond to this:

> Steven Rowe - who gets no viruses from this list

Neither does Sigvald! There is probably no connection between the
viruses that Sigvald receives and this mailing list. I checked the IP
and this does not occur in any mails sent here, so it's either a lurker
(fully possible of course) or just somebody else.

And Sigvald, it would be rather stupid to leave this mailing list, since
you'd still receive the viruses and secondly, even more important, why
leave due to such a small detail. Heck, I receive tons of spam every
day, currently about "Viagra" and "Earn money from home" :-) The mails
themselves don't bother me much, but it's annoying to know that the
bandwidth of our otherwise fine Internet is used for this crap.

I do urge people here to take a good look at the actual sender of both
spam and viruses and subsequently send an e-mail to their respective
providers. My experience tells me that it does indeed help.

Best,
S?ren

(Spam: Get fully resistant towards viruses---use Linux! ;-)
Sigvald
Irene Postma <irenep at bos.nl> skrev:

> It might well be that it is your own computer causing all the
> trouble. You may have got a virus, that takes names from your
> own address book and have "them" send messages to your own account.

Firstly I I read my e-mails via Internet Explorer. Secondly I had my machine scehcked yesterday. So there are definately no virus on my computer!

> Otherwise, it is somebody you know, but who has nothing to do
> with the names that appear in the mails.

No, our Danish friends says it comes from a Greek in the city of Korinth.

By the way, Irene, are you in family with the famous Dutch speed-skater Ids Postma?

Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald
Soren_Krarup_Olesen wrote:
>
> SIGVALD:
>
>> I say this because I believe that some of YOU can stop this mess
>> if you really wants to. I think that an expert like Soeren Krarup
>> Olesen should send a mail to whoever is the host of the infected
>> Greek in Korinth and ask them to end their services for that
>> bas....
>
> I'll be happy to do so. Can you please next time forward some
> of the infected mails to me, then I'll write a letter to the
> Greek provider.

You bet I will, and I guess you won't have to wait for long!

But didn't you get a virus yourself and thus allready have the adress?

Sigvald :-)
Kriton Kyrimis
MARCO:

> who hasn't wondered at least once HOW in the
> world Mickey Mouse earns his money?

Perhaps he lives on the rewards for all those criminals he catches, just
like Gladstone lives on all those contest prizes!

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Kriton Kyrimis
SIGVALD:

> No, our Danish friends says it comes from a Greek in the city of Korinth.

Has my guess about the infected machine being in Corinth been confirmed?

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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