Hi Rich,
> Can you tell me if Donna looked very much as she did in the cartoon (see
this link) http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/ART/Donna-Duck.gif ?
Yes, she did.
> Armando, can you also scan a panel or two of that August 1951 comic strip
from Al Taliaferro featuring the two
Ducks on stage with Donald so we/I can see the difference between the Latina
there and Donna, if any?
Sure!
> Also, Armando, I have a lot of space available on the server provided by
my new ISP, so I'd love to display whatever picture you have of Donald's pal
Mac. In your references, is Mac only available in Black & White or do they
have a colorized version of him?
My only reference is a b/w reproduction of a "Mickey Mouse Weekly" page,
from Alberto's book. I'll send it to you tonight, together with the other
scans.
Ciao,
Armando
Author
Topic: 200210
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Botto Armando
Donna & Mac
Message 31 -
2002-10-14 at 11:15:30
Joakim.Gunnarsson
Question re Bill Grandey and Kathy Morby
Message 32 -
2002-10-14 at 13:50:11
> Nils Lid Hjort wrote:
>I see that G&M have been selling, and are still very actively
selling, lots
>and lots of Barks material, via the electronic auction house eBay.
What username do they have on eBay?
/Joakim.
>I see that G&M have been selling, and are still very actively
selling, lots
>and lots of Barks material, via the electronic auction house eBay.
What username do they have on eBay?
/Joakim.
Cristina
Donna & Mac
Message 33 -
2002-10-14 at 15:37:11
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shad Z." <shadz at email.com>
>
>
>
> But other parts of the huge Disney corporation
> disagree. See this pin that went on sale in
> Disneyland in the spring of 2002. Whoever OKed it
> apparently does feel that Donna Duck and Daisy Duck
> are the same person/duck:
>
>
Many people still refer to Donna as "previous name of Daisy Duck": as you
can see, even here
http://www.hummelgiftshop.com/products_detail.asp?Page=4&ItemID=45&ProdPage=
1 and http://www.teemings.com/shorts/disney/years/1937/1937.html#14 the
character's listed as "Daisy Duck in Don Donald". As far as I know, that's a
general misunderstanding due to Donna's look. In her early movies, Daisy
franly looks a lot like Donna, even if their costumes are different.
Comparing this picture
http://iquebec.ifrance.com/minny/disney-gifs-daisy11.gif to the pic of
Donna, you can't deny they look like each other. Beside, even in the
"Mickey's Christmas Carol" movies, Daisy resembles her spanish counterpoint.
I don't know if they were originally planned to be different characters from
the very beginning, or if it has been a late choice. Eventually, both Daisy
and Donald changed their look in the years: if you take the Donald of "Don
Donald" you'll see he's slightly different from a more recent Donald as, for
example, this one http://www.grandmaspantry.com/images/donald.gif . Daisy
has developed a slightly larger beak than Donna (and Daisy's own earlier
appearances), less almond shaped eyes, and curlier feathers on her headback.
Yet, she STILL looks like Donna to a distract eye.
This would be another reason to think she and Donna are relatives. Just
think to Huey, Dewey and Louie: they're identical twins whom only difference
is clothes colors. Same for April, May and June. Even Donald and Della are
somehow similar to each other, despite they don't seem to be full-identical
twins (see Della's blonder hair, and smaller eyes). Scrooge and his sisters
are not identical, yet they share the basical facial features. And,
Scrooge's two uncles LOOK a lot like his father as well. If Daisy and Donna
would be relatives, this would easily explain the many similarities between
the two of them.
From: "Shad Z." <shadz at email.com>
>
>
>
> But other parts of the huge Disney corporation
> disagree. See this pin that went on sale in
> Disneyland in the spring of 2002. Whoever OKed it
> apparently does feel that Donna Duck and Daisy Duck
> are the same person/duck:
>
>
Many people still refer to Donna as "previous name of Daisy Duck": as you
can see, even here
http://www.hummelgiftshop.com/products_detail.asp?Page=4&ItemID=45&ProdPage=
1 and http://www.teemings.com/shorts/disney/years/1937/1937.html#14 the
character's listed as "Daisy Duck in Don Donald". As far as I know, that's a
general misunderstanding due to Donna's look. In her early movies, Daisy
franly looks a lot like Donna, even if their costumes are different.
Comparing this picture
http://iquebec.ifrance.com/minny/disney-gifs-daisy11.gif to the pic of
Donna, you can't deny they look like each other. Beside, even in the
"Mickey's Christmas Carol" movies, Daisy resembles her spanish counterpoint.
I don't know if they were originally planned to be different characters from
the very beginning, or if it has been a late choice. Eventually, both Daisy
and Donald changed their look in the years: if you take the Donald of "Don
Donald" you'll see he's slightly different from a more recent Donald as, for
example, this one http://www.grandmaspantry.com/images/donald.gif . Daisy
has developed a slightly larger beak than Donna (and Daisy's own earlier
appearances), less almond shaped eyes, and curlier feathers on her headback.
Yet, she STILL looks like Donna to a distract eye.
This would be another reason to think she and Donna are relatives. Just
think to Huey, Dewey and Louie: they're identical twins whom only difference
is clothes colors. Same for April, May and June. Even Donald and Della are
somehow similar to each other, despite they don't seem to be full-identical
twins (see Della's blonder hair, and smaller eyes). Scrooge and his sisters
are not identical, yet they share the basical facial features. And,
Scrooge's two uncles LOOK a lot like his father as well. If Daisy and Donna
would be relatives, this would easily explain the many similarities between
the two of them.
Crocker, John
Donna & Mac
Message 34 -
2002-10-14 at 17:10:22
> But other parts of the huge Disney corporation
> disagree. See this pin that went on sale in
> Disneyland in the spring of 2002. Whoever OKed it
> apparently does feel that Donna Duck and Daisy Duck
> are the same person/duck:
> http://www.pinpics.com/cgi-bin/pin.cgi?pin=9078
This is best explained by the sense that Disney (in films atleast) likes to think of their main characters as not only individuals whose lives can be told in stories, but that these characters are also actors/actresses themselves.
Thus, in Don Donald, Daisy performed the role of Donna.
For instance, in Mickey's Christmas Carol, new characters are not being introduced into the Disney world, but already existing well-known characters are acting out Dickens' characters.
Having only a small amount of Disney comics experience, it is my intuition to say that this is a distinct difference between Disney TV and films versus Disney comics (in which comics, for the most part, focus on telling stories about the lives of the characters instead of giving the characters different roles to perform).
-John Crocker.
> disagree. See this pin that went on sale in
> Disneyland in the spring of 2002. Whoever OKed it
> apparently does feel that Donna Duck and Daisy Duck
> are the same person/duck:
> http://www.pinpics.com/cgi-bin/pin.cgi?pin=9078
This is best explained by the sense that Disney (in films atleast) likes to think of their main characters as not only individuals whose lives can be told in stories, but that these characters are also actors/actresses themselves.
Thus, in Don Donald, Daisy performed the role of Donna.
For instance, in Mickey's Christmas Carol, new characters are not being introduced into the Disney world, but already existing well-known characters are acting out Dickens' characters.
Having only a small amount of Disney comics experience, it is my intuition to say that this is a distinct difference between Disney TV and films versus Disney comics (in which comics, for the most part, focus on telling stories about the lives of the characters instead of giving the characters different roles to perform).
-John Crocker.
Xephyr
Donna & Mac
Message 35 -
2002-10-14 at 19:50:17
Martin Olsen said:
> I can confirm that the Mexican lady duck appearing in the Donald Duck
> dailies in August 1951 was indeed named Donna. We never get to
> know har last name - even her mailbox has only "Se?orita Donna".
> The continuity ran for two weeks, from August 7 to August 18, 1951.
> In the last strip Donald is introduced by Donna to her fianc?, Manuel
> Gonzales!
Heh!!! Unless I totally misunderstood that last comment...That's GREAT!
Does Mr. Gonzales then actually appear in thecomic strip? If so, is he a
"duckbill" also? :-)
That's a great fact and would explain why Donald moved on from Donna
to Daisy since he no longer had any prospects of a future with Donna.
Furthermore, if we speculate that Donna is INDEED Daisy's sister,
AND the mother of April, May and June... it wouldn't be that much
further of a stretch to say the Mr. Gonzales is their FATHER.... It
would also tell us that the Triplet girls are NOT surnamed "Duck"
(even though they are still from the "Duck" lineage). I guess these
are things Mr. Guilles Maurice would surely want to note. LOL!
Thanks, Rich
xephyr at cwnet.com
Wow... how many answers can come from one name??? LOL!
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> I can confirm that the Mexican lady duck appearing in the Donald Duck
> dailies in August 1951 was indeed named Donna. We never get to
> know har last name - even her mailbox has only "Se?orita Donna".
> The continuity ran for two weeks, from August 7 to August 18, 1951.
> In the last strip Donald is introduced by Donna to her fianc?, Manuel
> Gonzales!
Heh!!! Unless I totally misunderstood that last comment...That's GREAT!
Does Mr. Gonzales then actually appear in thecomic strip? If so, is he a
"duckbill" also? :-)
That's a great fact and would explain why Donald moved on from Donna
to Daisy since he no longer had any prospects of a future with Donna.
Furthermore, if we speculate that Donna is INDEED Daisy's sister,
AND the mother of April, May and June... it wouldn't be that much
further of a stretch to say the Mr. Gonzales is their FATHER.... It
would also tell us that the Triplet girls are NOT surnamed "Duck"
(even though they are still from the "Duck" lineage). I guess these
are things Mr. Guilles Maurice would surely want to note. LOL!
Thanks, Rich
xephyr at cwnet.com
Wow... how many answers can come from one name??? LOL!
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Donna & Mac
Message 36 -
2002-10-14 at 20:02:32
----- Original Message -----
From: "Crocker, John" <John.Crocker at dvn.com>
>
>
> This is best explained by the sense that Disney (in films atleast) likes
to think of their main characters as not only individuals whose lives can be
told in stories, but that these characters are also actors/actresses
themselves.
> Thus, in Don Donald, Daisy performed the role of Donna.
>
I hadn't thought about it, but it seems possible. This would mean Daisy IS a
different character from Donna but, in the meantime, used that name before
her first true appearance as "Daisy" with Donald. It makes sense.
From: "Crocker, John" <John.Crocker at dvn.com>
>
>
> This is best explained by the sense that Disney (in films atleast) likes
to think of their main characters as not only individuals whose lives can be
told in stories, but that these characters are also actors/actresses
themselves.
> Thus, in Don Donald, Daisy performed the role of Donna.
>
I hadn't thought about it, but it seems possible. This would mean Daisy IS a
different character from Donna but, in the meantime, used that name before
her first true appearance as "Daisy" with Donald. It makes sense.
Xephyr
Donna & Mac
Message 37 -
2002-10-14 at 21:17:24
John Crocker said:
> For instance, in Mickey's Christmas Carol, new characters are
> not being introduced into the Disney world, but already existing
> well-known characters are acting out Dickens' characters.
Yes, this is an angle Disney does take and would indeed explain
the Daisy/Donna dilemma, as is the simpler explanation Disney
uses that Donna is Daisy's former name. Still, as far as comics
go, it would appear, based on commentary by those who have access
to those early comic strips, that Donna & Daisy are distinctly
seperate characters (at least in comics) for the basis of the
DCML. Thus, it could be said that, in the films, Daisy & Donna
are the same person, but in comics they are not.
As for such vehicles as "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (Dec. 16, 1983)
I love how they managed to sneak some comics-ONLY characters in,
such as a cameo of Grandma Duck at the Barn Dance, though she did
make a brief "speaking role" in the TV version of "This is your
Life, Donald Duck" (Mar. 11, 1960). I'm not sure who voiced her,
but it sounded like June Foray. And speaking of April, May & June
(which I did in my last posting), they have made their cameo
appearance in Disney's "House of Mouse" episode "Ladies Night"
(Feb. 23. 2002) where they replaced houseband regulars Huey, Dewey
and Louie as an "All-girl" band. Minnie actually introduces them
as "Daisy's neices: April, May & June." Minnie's own neice, Melody
has made a few probable appearances, though she has yet to called
"Melody" or even "Minnie's neice" such as "Mickey's Christmas
Carol" where she played the role of Bob Crachtet's daughter and as
an orphan girl in the "Mickey's MouseWorks" cartoon "Around the
World in 80 Days" (June 5, 1999). And Gladstone Gander made his
debut in the DuckTales episode, "Sweet Duck of Youth" (Oct. 21,
1987) and had a leading role in "Dime Enough for Luck" (Dec. 4,
1987). Others, like Magica de Spell, Glittering Goldie, the
Phantom Blot and Chief O'Hara have also made the leap from comics
to film.
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
xephyr at cwnet.com
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> For instance, in Mickey's Christmas Carol, new characters are
> not being introduced into the Disney world, but already existing
> well-known characters are acting out Dickens' characters.
Yes, this is an angle Disney does take and would indeed explain
the Daisy/Donna dilemma, as is the simpler explanation Disney
uses that Donna is Daisy's former name. Still, as far as comics
go, it would appear, based on commentary by those who have access
to those early comic strips, that Donna & Daisy are distinctly
seperate characters (at least in comics) for the basis of the
DCML. Thus, it could be said that, in the films, Daisy & Donna
are the same person, but in comics they are not.
As for such vehicles as "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (Dec. 16, 1983)
I love how they managed to sneak some comics-ONLY characters in,
such as a cameo of Grandma Duck at the Barn Dance, though she did
make a brief "speaking role" in the TV version of "This is your
Life, Donald Duck" (Mar. 11, 1960). I'm not sure who voiced her,
but it sounded like June Foray. And speaking of April, May & June
(which I did in my last posting), they have made their cameo
appearance in Disney's "House of Mouse" episode "Ladies Night"
(Feb. 23. 2002) where they replaced houseband regulars Huey, Dewey
and Louie as an "All-girl" band. Minnie actually introduces them
as "Daisy's neices: April, May & June." Minnie's own neice, Melody
has made a few probable appearances, though she has yet to called
"Melody" or even "Minnie's neice" such as "Mickey's Christmas
Carol" where she played the role of Bob Crachtet's daughter and as
an orphan girl in the "Mickey's MouseWorks" cartoon "Around the
World in 80 Days" (June 5, 1999). And Gladstone Gander made his
debut in the DuckTales episode, "Sweet Duck of Youth" (Oct. 21,
1987) and had a leading role in "Dime Enough for Luck" (Dec. 4,
1987). Others, like Magica de Spell, Glittering Goldie, the
Phantom Blot and Chief O'Hara have also made the leap from comics
to film.
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
xephyr at cwnet.com
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File-Sharing of Scanned Stories
Message 38 -
2002-10-15 at 13:22:06
M?ndag 14. oktober 2002 23:17 skreiv Thomas Johnson:
> Is there a place on the internet where Disney Comics fans can
> network with each other by email?
I'm sure you could put all your comics up on freenet / gnutella / kazaa
/ direct connect / whatever is the most popular filesharing-network at
the moment.
Maybe you would find someone else that was interested. Maybe not.
> I brought this issue up once before, and a polite reply was posted
> bringing up the copyright issue, period-end-of-discussion. I know
> there are copyright issues, but heck. The Disney Company has locked
> up the old comics and isn't letting anybody reprint them. These
> classic stories are works of art that are being lost. New
> generations of kids are missing out on something special.
There is many points of view, and many discussions when it comes to
copyright. Unfortunately the lawmakers seem to think that 70+ years
is a 'fair' time for copyrights.
Now, with the Sony Bonno act or whatever that idiotic thing in the US
is named, things have gotten even worse. Books / comics / movies made
in the 1930's are _still_ covered by copyrights. Even though most, if
not all, of the actors/creators of these nice pieces of art has passed
away.
Of course an artist should be rewarded for what he makes. But
copyrights which last longer than 20-40 years are just ludicrous. In
my eyes, at least.
> Am I the only person out here who is interested in this?
I'm sure there are others that are interested. I'm also quite sure
that most of them will be very quiet about it on this list.
--
Rune Kristian Viken
> Is there a place on the internet where Disney Comics fans can
> network with each other by email?
I'm sure you could put all your comics up on freenet / gnutella / kazaa
/ direct connect / whatever is the most popular filesharing-network at
the moment.
Maybe you would find someone else that was interested. Maybe not.
> I brought this issue up once before, and a polite reply was posted
> bringing up the copyright issue, period-end-of-discussion. I know
> there are copyright issues, but heck. The Disney Company has locked
> up the old comics and isn't letting anybody reprint them. These
> classic stories are works of art that are being lost. New
> generations of kids are missing out on something special.
There is many points of view, and many discussions when it comes to
copyright. Unfortunately the lawmakers seem to think that 70+ years
is a 'fair' time for copyrights.
Now, with the Sony Bonno act or whatever that idiotic thing in the US
is named, things have gotten even worse. Books / comics / movies made
in the 1930's are _still_ covered by copyrights. Even though most, if
not all, of the actors/creators of these nice pieces of art has passed
away.
Of course an artist should be rewarded for what he makes. But
copyrights which last longer than 20-40 years are just ludicrous. In
my eyes, at least.
> Am I the only person out here who is interested in this?
I'm sure there are others that are interested. I'm also quite sure
that most of them will be very quiet about it on this list.
--
Rune Kristian Viken
M. Mitchell Marmel
$crooge makes it into Forbes...
Message 39 -
2002-10-15 at 13:31:54
Martin Olsen
Manuel Gonzales appearing in Taliaferro strip
Message 40 -
2002-10-15 at 18:22:11
A reply to Rich who wrote:
> Martin Olsen said:
> > I can confirm that the Mexican lady duck appearing in the Donald Duck
> > dailies in August 1951 was indeed named Donna. We never get to
> > know har last name - even her mailbox has only "Se?orita Donna".
> > The continuity ran for two weeks, from August 7 to August 18, 1951.
> > In the last strip Donald is introduced by Donna to her fianc?, Manuel
> > Gonzales!
>
> Heh!!! Unless I totally misunderstood that last comment...That's GREAT!
> Does Mr. Gonzales then actually appear in thecomic strip? If so, is he a
> "duckbill" also? :-)
>
Mr. Gonzales does indeed appear in the second panel of the strip. He is not a "duckbill". He is in fact an almost-human-faced character ("dagface" shape, but no black nose) with five(!) fingers on each hand. I wouldn't be the least surprised if this is actually a caricature of the real Manuel Gonzales.
Martin.
> Martin Olsen said:
> > I can confirm that the Mexican lady duck appearing in the Donald Duck
> > dailies in August 1951 was indeed named Donna. We never get to
> > know har last name - even her mailbox has only "Se?orita Donna".
> > The continuity ran for two weeks, from August 7 to August 18, 1951.
> > In the last strip Donald is introduced by Donna to her fianc?, Manuel
> > Gonzales!
>
> Heh!!! Unless I totally misunderstood that last comment...That's GREAT!
> Does Mr. Gonzales then actually appear in thecomic strip? If so, is he a
> "duckbill" also? :-)
>
Mr. Gonzales does indeed appear in the second panel of the strip. He is not a "duckbill". He is in fact an almost-human-faced character ("dagface" shape, but no black nose) with five(!) fingers on each hand. I wouldn't be the least surprised if this is actually a caricature of the real Manuel Gonzales.
Martin.
Alipio D'Oliveira Coelho
Donna & Daisy
Message 41 -
2002-10-15 at 18:57:55
In The Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's Animated Characters (John Grant),
on page 80 is a chapter about Daisy Duck that said: "Her first role was
as the rollicking Mexican Donna Duck in Don Donald (1937): hotblooded,
mercurial and passionate, she is capable of switching from warm
tenderness to destructive wrath in less time than it takes to fracture a
lover's heart. She has, of course, a mantilla and comb in place of the
later customary bow, and she speaks with the inimitable voice of
Clarence Nash. "
So, is she Daisy Duck? And her last name is Duck??
on page 80 is a chapter about Daisy Duck that said: "Her first role was
as the rollicking Mexican Donna Duck in Don Donald (1937): hotblooded,
mercurial and passionate, she is capable of switching from warm
tenderness to destructive wrath in less time than it takes to fracture a
lover's heart. She has, of course, a mantilla and comb in place of the
later customary bow, and she speaks with the inimitable voice of
Clarence Nash. "
So, is she Daisy Duck? And her last name is Duck??
Anders Christian Sivebaek
#1100
Message 42 -
2002-10-15 at 22:20:49
Thomas Johnson
> >From one Disney comics fan to all you others...a question...
> Is there a place on the internet where Disney Comics fans can network
=
> with each other by email? =20
I don't think so - On the other hand there might be places where you
can
download comics online. I could think of a few - and I would just
advice you to search for them on google or the like. As could anyone
from the
company in question do - but we seldomly hear from them, copyrightwise.
> With all this file-sharing going on over the internet (mp3 files,
etc.) =
> why don't fans of Disney comics get together and share scanned
stories =
> with each other? It could be done person-to-person by email, or the
=
> scanned files could be shared on a site such as Kazaa.com.=20
Believe me, Kazaa would maybe not be a good idea, but I don't know.
Kazaa is maybe a bit more easy for "them" to spot than just usual
uploading
on a page. - But it might go on, without my knowing.
> I brought this issue up once before, and a polite reply was posted =
> bringing up the copyright issue, period-end-of-discussion.
Well, is it the end of the question.
What you suggest is some email-thing - I would sugest uploading to a
page that
one would only tell a certain group of persons about, perhaps with a
password or so.
(That's easier than with email, which requires some more online-being,
depending
what connection you have - AFAIK)
This would make this "for private use" and there's nothing illegal in
that AFAIK.
Actually, in the danish weekly the text about copyright says that it's
forbidden to use the content in commercial connections - meaning you're
not allowed
to get any money out of copying or scanning - well, noone would do that
in
the groups where I am - Lets say we have had a story online, which will
now be taken down.
Not at one point have we gotten any money from it. We've just been
trying to serve fans in
eg. the United States that have sadly have no access to Duck comics
since 1998.
> I know there are copyright issues, but heck. The Disney Company has
locked up the =
> old comics and isn't letting anybody reprint them.
That wouldn't be a reason for them.
> These classic =
> stories are works of art that are being lost. New generations of
kids =
> are missing out on something special.
Neither that - Nor do I suffer from the believe that Disney would
listen if we say we have
earned nothing on having one or two comics online untill publication in
our area -
So what can we say? It might very well be illegal - but some kind of
moral told us to do it -
that would be the same with this case, to let the kids read them too -
(But how many eg.
american kids would be interested?)
> And with all due respect, if a person emails someone a scanned Disney
=
> comic story, who would know?
There are ways - but in that case it would be personal use - sending a
file to a friend is not illegal.
> Am I the only person out here who is interested in this?
No. But I'd like to hear others issues about this.
> >From one Disney comics fan to all you others...a question...
> Is there a place on the internet where Disney Comics fans can network
=
> with each other by email? =20
I don't think so - On the other hand there might be places where you
can
download comics online. I could think of a few - and I would just
advice you to search for them on google or the like. As could anyone
from the
company in question do - but we seldomly hear from them, copyrightwise.
> With all this file-sharing going on over the internet (mp3 files,
etc.) =
> why don't fans of Disney comics get together and share scanned
stories =
> with each other? It could be done person-to-person by email, or the
=
> scanned files could be shared on a site such as Kazaa.com.=20
Believe me, Kazaa would maybe not be a good idea, but I don't know.
Kazaa is maybe a bit more easy for "them" to spot than just usual
uploading
on a page. - But it might go on, without my knowing.
> I brought this issue up once before, and a polite reply was posted =
> bringing up the copyright issue, period-end-of-discussion.
Well, is it the end of the question.
What you suggest is some email-thing - I would sugest uploading to a
page that
one would only tell a certain group of persons about, perhaps with a
password or so.
(That's easier than with email, which requires some more online-being,
depending
what connection you have - AFAIK)
This would make this "for private use" and there's nothing illegal in
that AFAIK.
Actually, in the danish weekly the text about copyright says that it's
forbidden to use the content in commercial connections - meaning you're
not allowed
to get any money out of copying or scanning - well, noone would do that
in
the groups where I am - Lets say we have had a story online, which will
now be taken down.
Not at one point have we gotten any money from it. We've just been
trying to serve fans in
eg. the United States that have sadly have no access to Duck comics
since 1998.
> I know there are copyright issues, but heck. The Disney Company has
locked up the =
> old comics and isn't letting anybody reprint them.
That wouldn't be a reason for them.
> These classic =
> stories are works of art that are being lost. New generations of
kids =
> are missing out on something special.
Neither that - Nor do I suffer from the believe that Disney would
listen if we say we have
earned nothing on having one or two comics online untill publication in
our area -
So what can we say? It might very well be illegal - but some kind of
moral told us to do it -
that would be the same with this case, to let the kids read them too -
(But how many eg.
american kids would be interested?)
> And with all due respect, if a person emails someone a scanned Disney
=
> comic story, who would know?
There are ways - but in that case it would be personal use - sending a
file to a friend is not illegal.
> Am I the only person out here who is interested in this?
No. But I'd like to hear others issues about this.
Shad Z.
Disney Adventures vol 12, no 9 (November 2002)
Message 43 -
2002-10-16 at 05:50:27
Continuing my listing of what's in this month's issue
of the only source for Disney comics in America...
Matt Feazel's content page doodles are not given a story
code this month.
1) Disney's Tall Tales, JZ689, 1 page.
Writing and art by Glenn McCoy.
Characters include Mickey Mouse and Goofy.
2) Monsters, Inc.: "Occupational Hazard!", JZ667, 4 pages.
Story by Frank Strom. Pencils by Al Bigley. Inks by Matt
Maley.
Characters include James "Sulley" Sullivan, Mike
Wazowski, Celia Mae and George Sanderson (who is
miscolored blue).
3) Jet Pack Pets: "The Bride of Jack Flash!", JZ688, 4
pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish.
Jet Pack Pets is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Michael Stewart & Garry Black.
4) The Last Laugh: "Signs That Your Teacher Is Really a
Monster!", JZ687, 1 page.
Written by John Green. Art by Jim Paillot.
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of the only source for Disney comics in America...
Matt Feazel's content page doodles are not given a story
code this month.
1) Disney's Tall Tales, JZ689, 1 page.
Writing and art by Glenn McCoy.
Characters include Mickey Mouse and Goofy.
2) Monsters, Inc.: "Occupational Hazard!", JZ667, 4 pages.
Story by Frank Strom. Pencils by Al Bigley. Inks by Matt
Maley.
Characters include James "Sulley" Sullivan, Mike
Wazowski, Celia Mae and George Sanderson (who is
miscolored blue).
3) Jet Pack Pets: "The Bride of Jack Flash!", JZ688, 4
pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish.
Jet Pack Pets is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Michael Stewart & Garry Black.
4) The Last Laugh: "Signs That Your Teacher Is Really a
Monster!", JZ687, 1 page.
Written by John Green. Art by Jim Paillot.
Shad Z. ^Q^
(ShadZ at rocketmail.com,ShadZ at email.com,Jackalope7 at go.com)
http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
HONK TO SEE PUPPIES
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Gerd Syllwasschy
Donna & Daisy
Message 44 -
2002-10-16 at 10:34:28
Alipio:
> So, is she Daisy Duck? And her last name is Duck??
I won't state that Donna is Daisy, but in the animated cartoon "Don
Donald" her name is clearly spelled out as "DONNA DUCK". (On her
letterbox, I think. Or maybe it was some sign at her house.)
Gerd
> So, is she Daisy Duck? And her last name is Duck??
I won't state that Donna is Daisy, but in the animated cartoon "Don
Donald" her name is clearly spelled out as "DONNA DUCK". (On her
letterbox, I think. Or maybe it was some sign at her house.)
Gerd
Sigvald
About Donna Duck
Message 45 -
2002-10-16 at 14:40:31
Hi all!
Very recently DCML has witnessed a discussion about whether Daisy Duck and Donna Duck (a character which appeared around 1937) are the same character. I guess that Daisy was developed from Donna, but I still like to see them as two different characters. A possible explanation (which Don Rosa once said ??sounds fine?) is that Donna Duck actually is the sister of Daisy and the mother of April, May and June.
In Don Rosa?s view Daisy and her sister also have a brother who is Della Duck?s husband and the father of HD&L.
Personally I also find it plausible that General Stonewall Duck who according to Barks ?saved Duckburg? in 1860 is the great grandfather of Daisy and her siblings (I suppose he would have been placed on ?Don Rosa?s Duck Family Tree? if he had been the father of Grandma Duck?s husband Humperdink Duck).
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
Very recently DCML has witnessed a discussion about whether Daisy Duck and Donna Duck (a character which appeared around 1937) are the same character. I guess that Daisy was developed from Donna, but I still like to see them as two different characters. A possible explanation (which Don Rosa once said ??sounds fine?) is that Donna Duck actually is the sister of Daisy and the mother of April, May and June.
In Don Rosa?s view Daisy and her sister also have a brother who is Della Duck?s husband and the father of HD&L.
Personally I also find it plausible that General Stonewall Duck who according to Barks ?saved Duckburg? in 1860 is the great grandfather of Daisy and her siblings (I suppose he would have been placed on ?Don Rosa?s Duck Family Tree? if he had been the father of Grandma Duck?s husband Humperdink Duck).
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)