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HI!
I made a page about Donna Duck for you DCMailers, with a summary of all the
info that have been told about this character, extra infos, and new pictures
of her...
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/donna/donna.html

Gilles

AC wrote:

> It contains the second third of disney-magazines
> from 1955 - and moreover:
> My preface.

Many congratulations, both to you and, even more, to
the Danish readers of these books. I really wish we
Dutch had someone with your knowledge of and love for
the Ducks who could write similar prefaces to our
Dutch books. The prefaces to our collected '53-weekly
contained nothing interesting nor new.

I hope that they'll ask a guy like Roy Kooijman, who
has both the knowledge and love for the ducks to write
these kind of prefaces. I for one would look forward
to his prefaces anyway.

Duco

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Hi all!

The last few days I have daily recieved viruses which apears to be sent from my fellow D.U.C.K.hunters, and I know that viruses has even been sent in MY name. It's now time to stop this mess!!!

According to my Danish friend Thomas Lauritsen these viruses comes from Greece and most probably from someone close to, or most likely inside D.U.C.K.hunt. And there is ONE D.U.C.K.hunter from whom there has been no viruses - Apostolis Trikourakis.

This can heppen to best. Once Dan Shane's computer was infected so that it sent viruses in Don Rosa's name, so please Apostolis - do the following:
a) Check you PC
b) Tell us if the viruses are coming from elsewhere or
c) If the viruses are coming from your PC - please confess so that not all greeks in the DCML becomes suspected.

Sigvald :-)

Hi Duco

> The prefaces to our collected '53-weekly
> contained nothing interesting nor new.
Well the copies of the advertisements placed in the Margriet (Dutch
weekly) from 1952 were new to me... But the preface itself was indeed
like you describe. In fact I found it a pity they didn't use better
quality old weeklies for these expensive books. The idea was good, at
least I now have (copies off) the two issues I miss from 1953 ;-)

> I hope that they'll ask a guy like Roy Kooijman, who
> has both the knowledge and love for the ducks to write
> these kind of prefaces. I for one would look forward
> to his prefaces anyway.
You are too kind Duco, I honoustly don't believe I am able to write such
nice things as Anders did/does!
Besides I wonder if the Dutch editor would find it interesting to place
such prefaces in such a book if they would continue the series... well
maybe, they do place some extra pieces of text, art and stuff in the
Dutch Beste verhalen and Oom Dagobert (Uncle Scrooge) albums (sometimes)
which is nice!

-- Roy

Hi all

I'm not responsible for that mess, that's sure! I
don't have an internet access for 3 weeks now. I
bought a new one 3-4 days ago. These 3-4 days I'm
receiving almost 10 e-mails with viruses every day
from Anders, dcml and a dozen of other people! I
haven't sent not even one e-mail these days so I think
that the virus itself is doing the job. I just delete
these e-mails because I know that the virus is
replying itself. Why to send viruses to you, anyway?
Best Wishes

=====
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece
E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage

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SIGVALD:

> The last few days I have daily recieved viruses which apears to be [...]

I have asked you once and now I try again. Can you please tell us the IP
from which the virus is delivered?

Is it really that difficult? Click on "show extended header" or whatever
it's called. I find that a more constructive manouevre than accusing
randomly selected Greeks.

S?ren

Vidar asked:

> > The result is a full-page article where I say various things
> > about the moral and ethical values of the DD stories...
>
> and what *did* you say?

Lots of stuff, but all in Dutch. 8-)

(I can send you a copy of the Dutch text, if you want. It's on the web,
somewhere at www.nd.nl)

Some things I talked about:

- DD stories are not just aimed at children, that's why they are so
successful.

- There are few parents in the DD world: parents are usually in the way when
you want to have an adventure.

- There's a lot of violence, but never useless violence, and the good always
wins in the end.

- Scrooge is rich, and wants to become richer, but he's not a real
capitalist. He doesn't want power with his money; he only wants to swim in
it.

- Scrooge always gets more money in a "square" way. And in many cases he
doesn't get what he want, for instance because a treasure found in Turkey
rightfully belongs to the Turkish government.

- The Dutch minister warned against comics in 1948. But his statement was
too general: there *were* harmful comics in those days, but also harmless
ones like DD, Bob & Bobette, Asterix, Tintin, etc.

- I can imagine that some orthodox christians objected to DD (in the 1950s)
because in some stories ghosts or witches are involved. (The interviewer
adds that another objection was that DD and the nephews were gambling and
went to dance halls.)

- In the DD stories there are no references to church or religion. I
remember one story where a big gothic church building was involved, with a
big organ in it. But apart from the organ, the building contained *no*
religious objects.

- The DD weekly manages quite well to stay politically and religiously
neutral. The only thing I remember are some stories from the 70s and 80s
with a strong respect for nature and environment.

Note that I myself generalised a bit (by using words like "always" and
"never"). I did that to keep my arguments simple: to every statement above,
at least one exception can be found.

Also note that I am mainly talking about the Dutch weekly. So I excluded
some really offensive Italian stories from the pocket books. As well as, for
instance, a Vic Lockman story that teaches children that it is good to
demolish half of nature, as long as the goal is that humans can enjoy better
the nature that's left... (that story was never printed in Holland).

--Harry.

Is this virus that is circulating through our list group carried by receiving
the digested messages from DCML? Or is it only spread through individual
messages that come in private messages directly from list members (one to
another)?

I am terribly afraid of receiving a virus. Regarding the appeal I made for
French back issues: If you respond to that, please send your response to the
general list. I will then send the list the issues I want to you. I am
reasonably sure that I do not have a virus now (unless it can be obtained
directly from receiving the digested list, and is still being carried by the
digested list messages). Since beginning of June, I have only been receiving
them for the last 4 days. Before that, I was reading the list messages from the
DCML Archives. Duco Feenstra is the only list member that has sent me a message
since I returned home recently. I hope your machine is not infected, Duco.
And, I hope only very few members have actually picked up the virus. I am NOT
using a Microsoft mail server. In addition, I use my mail server ONLY through
its "Remote Access" capability. I hope that keeps such viruses from being
picked up by my PC. Thanks, Rob Klein

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