> From: Ola Martinsson <Ola.Martinsson at ericsson.com>
> Subject: Re: Donald Duck christmas giveaway 1944
> Hi Don and thanks for your answer. Some other questions follows from
> your answer
> Are the Taliaferro pages daily strips or Sunday pages or maybe both ?
They are all Sundays that each fill the whole comic page.
> Is the name of the toy stores stamped on the back as for March of comics
> or how is that shown ?
No, the name of the store is printed on the back cover. I couldn't begin to
guess how this process worked. But it's not simply stamped by hand.
> I assume that you mean that the total number of pages including the
> cover is 16 ?
> Are there comics on all pages ?
Oui and si.
> AND the biggest one of them, how can the Thumper story that is 64 pages
> according to INDUCKS fit in this comic ???
Good point. That's impossible, eh? That's because I made a hasty assumption,
sorry. The story is NOT "Thumper Meets the Seven Dwarfs" as I said. It's
"The Seven Dwarfs and Thumper" (*big* difference!)(?) from WDC&S #45 of that
same year.
> From: "KUR" <ggk at wp.pl>
> To: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>, <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> this Story wen Donald meet his mother.
> It was just sow swet...
Sorry! I hope my next story will seem better than just sow sweat to you.
(Ick!)
Author
Topic: 200312
(236 messages)
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 5
Message 31 -
2003-12-04 at 15:48:41
Lars Jensen
Call Me "Tom" Kirk
Message 32 -
2003-12-04 at 17:27:57
Matt wrote:
> Would Jack Nicholson have brought credibility to the character of
> Merlin Jones?
I will not hear another negative word about Merlin Jones. That campus
kook is a great character with tons of potential. If only that TV series
had happened...
Lars
> Would Jack Nicholson have brought credibility to the character of
> Merlin Jones?
I will not hear another negative word about Merlin Jones. That campus
kook is a great character with tons of potential. If only that TV series
had happened...
Lars
Jadorno
Phantom Duck (was best Ducktales Episodes)
Message 33 -
2003-12-04 at 18:50:54
Lars Jensen wrote:
"Phantom Duck?! Do you mean PK/Duck Avenger?"
I do. I got that particular name from a website devoted in depth to old stories about PK/Duck Avenger. I think the name was a
creation of the fan that set up the site - I don't see it used anywhere else - but I like it and I tend to use it.
That must be HIS idea of which name Donald's superhero name
should be when the stories ever appear regularly in the
United States. I usually find the site through a search engine, so I don't have the address of it on hand to type in.
"Phantom Duck?! Do you mean PK/Duck Avenger?"
I do. I got that particular name from a website devoted in depth to old stories about PK/Duck Avenger. I think the name was a
creation of the fan that set up the site - I don't see it used anywhere else - but I like it and I tend to use it.
That must be HIS idea of which name Donald's superhero name
should be when the stories ever appear regularly in the
United States. I usually find the site through a search engine, so I don't have the address of it on hand to type in.
Don Rosa
"KUR"
Message 34 -
2003-12-04 at 19:12:29
Okay, okay, I didn't think there would be a need to go through this again,
but someone whom I would think would know better has complained that I am
picking on somebody due to their handicap in learning English. I correspond
with my friend "KUR" constantly both here on the public DCML as well as in
private e-mails. And I have already joked on the DCML about how funny
whatever type of translator he is using makes his messages appear. And
following that (or, heck, *not* even following that), his writing that he
thought one of my stories was "just sow swe(a)t" (rather than "just so
sweet") was far too funny not to kid about. I still think it is!
Two points that will not change:
1) I am too stupid to even begin to write or speak more than English, and
(as I *frequently* say) I am *vastly* impressed by all of you people here
(and whom I meet in my travels) who can speak/write English and probably
several other languages in addition to your own.
B) I will, however, never hesitate to poke fun at any wordings that, by
sheer chance, come out with a humorous meaning other than intended,
especially if it's as funny as "sow sweat".
but someone whom I would think would know better has complained that I am
picking on somebody due to their handicap in learning English. I correspond
with my friend "KUR" constantly both here on the public DCML as well as in
private e-mails. And I have already joked on the DCML about how funny
whatever type of translator he is using makes his messages appear. And
following that (or, heck, *not* even following that), his writing that he
thought one of my stories was "just sow swe(a)t" (rather than "just so
sweet") was far too funny not to kid about. I still think it is!
Two points that will not change:
1) I am too stupid to even begin to write or speak more than English, and
(as I *frequently* say) I am *vastly* impressed by all of you people here
(and whom I meet in my travels) who can speak/write English and probably
several other languages in addition to your own.
B) I will, however, never hesitate to poke fun at any wordings that, by
sheer chance, come out with a humorous meaning other than intended,
especially if it's as funny as "sow sweat".
Jadorno
Favorite Ducktales Eps.
Message 35 -
2003-12-04 at 19:26:57
Chris Barat writes:
"2)Master of the Djinni -- A great Scrooge-Glomgold duel, spiced with time travel."
I forgot to put that one in my list! I always liked that slow climbing race up the tower
to get to the magic lamp, as well as the music that went with it, and then the crazy race down
the mountain with the explosions that followed.
I liked a lot of the scenes in Ducktales version of "Tralla La" too. Particularly the whole thrid act, which actually dealt with how the
ducks get out of the mountain.
About "Beaglemania" - I have a cassette tape titled "Music From The Disney Afternoon" which included the whole song (including the "new" lyrics from the end
of the show) and I still remember the moment where one of the beagles uses his pistols to create a laser light show!
There were plenty of good moments in the second season where the writing staff would build suspense around how Fenten was going to get to that Gizmoduck suit in
time. The scene with Scrooge and Fenton standing in front of the firing squad in
"Allowance Day" is an excellant example.
I would also add "The Big Flub" to my list (the episode about Gyro's "floating"
bubble gum), because of Scrooge's big rescue scene at the end.
"2)Master of the Djinni -- A great Scrooge-Glomgold duel, spiced with time travel."
I forgot to put that one in my list! I always liked that slow climbing race up the tower
to get to the magic lamp, as well as the music that went with it, and then the crazy race down
the mountain with the explosions that followed.
I liked a lot of the scenes in Ducktales version of "Tralla La" too. Particularly the whole thrid act, which actually dealt with how the
ducks get out of the mountain.
About "Beaglemania" - I have a cassette tape titled "Music From The Disney Afternoon" which included the whole song (including the "new" lyrics from the end
of the show) and I still remember the moment where one of the beagles uses his pistols to create a laser light show!
There were plenty of good moments in the second season where the writing staff would build suspense around how Fenten was going to get to that Gizmoduck suit in
time. The scene with Scrooge and Fenton standing in front of the firing squad in
"Allowance Day" is an excellant example.
I would also add "The Big Flub" to my list (the episode about Gyro's "floating"
bubble gum), because of Scrooge's big rescue scene at the end.
Matthew Williams
Favorite Ducktales Eps.
Message 36 -
2003-12-04 at 20:55:04
>There were plenty of good moments in the second season where the writing
staff would build suspense around how Fenten >was going to get to that
Gizmoduck suit in time. The scene with Scrooge and Fenton standing in front
of the firing squad in
>"Allowance Day" is an excellent example.
>I would also add "The Big Flub" to my list (the episode about Gyro's
"floating" bubble gum), because of Scrooge's big >rescue scene at the end.
In defense of the second season, I have to say that I really like Fenton
Crackshell. I just don't care for Gizmo Duck. I like the episodes that
feature Fenton with little or no appearance of his secret identity. When
Gizmo Duck turned up on Darkwing Duck a few years later, I was somewhat
pleased to see the appearance of a DuckTales character, but he just didn't
seem to be the same character. Fenton's appearance was so minimal. In the
episodes that just featured Gizmo Duck, it was hard for me to imagine that
Fenton was really in the suit.
Matt
staff would build suspense around how Fenten >was going to get to that
Gizmoduck suit in time. The scene with Scrooge and Fenton standing in front
of the firing squad in
>"Allowance Day" is an excellent example.
>I would also add "The Big Flub" to my list (the episode about Gyro's
"floating" bubble gum), because of Scrooge's big >rescue scene at the end.
In defense of the second season, I have to say that I really like Fenton
Crackshell. I just don't care for Gizmo Duck. I like the episodes that
feature Fenton with little or no appearance of his secret identity. When
Gizmo Duck turned up on Darkwing Duck a few years later, I was somewhat
pleased to see the appearance of a DuckTales character, but he just didn't
seem to be the same character. Fenton's appearance was so minimal. In the
episodes that just featured Gizmo Duck, it was hard for me to imagine that
Fenton was really in the suit.
Matt
Gary Leach
Merlin Jones
Message 37 -
2003-12-05 at 15:40:08
Lars,
> I will not hear another negative word about Merlin Jones. That campus
> kook is a great character with tons of potential. If only that TV
> series
> had happened...
Indeed! I always thought Tommy Kirk added a bit of spark to even the
least of the Disney films he was in, and Merlin Jones was fun. The fate
of his acting career, considering the times in which it ran aground,
may be understandable, but it would be nice - and proper - if he could
receive something of his due today.
Gary
> I will not hear another negative word about Merlin Jones. That campus
> kook is a great character with tons of potential. If only that TV
> series
> had happened...
Indeed! I always thought Tommy Kirk added a bit of spark to even the
least of the Disney films he was in, and Merlin Jones was fun. The fate
of his acting career, considering the times in which it ran aground,
may be understandable, but it would be nice - and proper - if he could
receive something of his due today.
Gary
Eta Beta
Laurel & Hardy (NOT OT)
Message 38 -
2003-12-05 at 16:09:01
Hello!
I have one of those curiosities that I'm afraid won't be easy to
satisfy...
I recently re-watched, after some 30 years (at least!), an old
Laurel & Hardy movie, "Babes in Toyland", aka "March of the Wooden
Soldiers".
My memory had retained very little of this movie in all those years,
I just had a vague remembrance of the costumed ambience and the
terrifying (well, for a kid...) bogeymen, and it was with some
surprise that I "discovered" that Disney characters are in this
movie, and with important roles, too...
The Three Little Pigs actually have an instrumental part in the
plot, and there's no possible mistake about it being really them,
with "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf" music and all.
Mickey also appears, never called by name but easily recognizable.
What I'm wondering is, what did Walt think of all this ?
Was there an agreement between Disney and MGM about the use of
the characters in the movie, and if not, how did MGM manage to
get by with it ?
Anyone knows ?
Cheers!
Eta Beta
I have one of those curiosities that I'm afraid won't be easy to
satisfy...
I recently re-watched, after some 30 years (at least!), an old
Laurel & Hardy movie, "Babes in Toyland", aka "March of the Wooden
Soldiers".
My memory had retained very little of this movie in all those years,
I just had a vague remembrance of the costumed ambience and the
terrifying (well, for a kid...) bogeymen, and it was with some
surprise that I "discovered" that Disney characters are in this
movie, and with important roles, too...
The Three Little Pigs actually have an instrumental part in the
plot, and there's no possible mistake about it being really them,
with "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf" music and all.
Mickey also appears, never called by name but easily recognizable.
What I'm wondering is, what did Walt think of all this ?
Was there an agreement between Disney and MGM about the use of
the characters in the movie, and if not, how did MGM manage to
get by with it ?
Anyone knows ?
Cheers!
Eta Beta
Lars Jensen
Merlin Jones
Message 39 -
2003-12-05 at 16:30:19
Gary wrote:
> I always thought Tommy Kirk added a bit of spark to even the least of
> the Disney films he was in, and Merlin Jones was fun. The fate of his
> acting career, considering the times in which it ran aground, may be
> understandable, but it would be nice - and proper - if he could
> receive something of his due today.
I couldn't agree more.
Lars
> I always thought Tommy Kirk added a bit of spark to even the least of
> the Disney films he was in, and Merlin Jones was fun. The fate of his
> acting career, considering the times in which it ran aground, may be
> understandable, but it would be nice - and proper - if he could
> receive something of his due today.
I couldn't agree more.
Lars
Kriton Kyrimis
Laurel & Hardy (NOT OT)
Message 40 -
2003-12-05 at 17:15:14
ETA BETA:
> The Three Little Pigs actually have an instrumental part in the
> plot, and there's no possible mistake about it being really them,
> with "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf" music and all.
>
> Mickey also appears, never called by name but easily recognizable.
>
> What I'm wondering is, what did Walt think of all this ?
Regarding the three little pigs, he probably couldn't say much, as the tale
existed long before Disney. (A *very* quick google search found a reference to
an 1843 book, e.g.)
> Was there an agreement between Disney and MGM about the use of
> the characters in the movie, and if not, how did MGM manage to
> get by with it ?
If you watch the end credits of a modern movie, you'll see references to every
single song that is heard in the movie, even if it's only a snippet, or if
someone whistles it, as all songs are performed under license. I would assume
that "who's afraid..." was performed under license, as well, though I don't
know if back then the end credits consisted of anything more than "the end",
so it may not be so easy to check. Presumably, the same holds for having
Mickey Mouse appear in the movie.
> Anyone knows ?
Not me; I'm just guessing!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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> The Three Little Pigs actually have an instrumental part in the
> plot, and there's no possible mistake about it being really them,
> with "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf" music and all.
>
> Mickey also appears, never called by name but easily recognizable.
>
> What I'm wondering is, what did Walt think of all this ?
Regarding the three little pigs, he probably couldn't say much, as the tale
existed long before Disney. (A *very* quick google search found a reference to
an 1843 book, e.g.)
> Was there an agreement between Disney and MGM about the use of
> the characters in the movie, and if not, how did MGM manage to
> get by with it ?
If you watch the end credits of a modern movie, you'll see references to every
single song that is heard in the movie, even if it's only a snippet, or if
someone whistles it, as all songs are performed under license. I would assume
that "who's afraid..." was performed under license, as well, though I don't
know if back then the end credits consisted of anything more than "the end",
so it may not be so easy to check. Presumably, the same holds for having
Mickey Mouse appear in the movie.
> Anyone knows ?
Not me; I'm just guessing!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
-----
"Even in this corner of the galaxy, captain, two plus two equals four!"
-----
Frank Bubacz
Laurel & Hardy (NOT OT)
Message 41 -
2003-12-05 at 17:25:05
Hi Eega!
>Was there an agreement between Disney and MGM about the use of
>the characters in the movie
Yup, Disney himself granted permission for the use of Mickey, the pigs, and
their tune, which doesn't seem totally surprising, since he himself used
caricatures of Stan and Ollie in some of his cartoons from the thirties (and
at least "Mickey's Gala Premiere" predated "Toyland").
Of course, in 1961, Disney did his own version of the film, which is
probably one of the reasons, apart from the terrifying bogeymen, why the L &
H version faded into relative obscurity (and I still haven't seen it yet).
Interestingly, in 1939, Laurel approached Disney for a possible animation of
the horse in the final scene of "The Flying Deuces", but, as you will guess
correctly, if you have seen that film, without success. Another film
featuring both L & H and Mickey is of course "Hollywood Party".
Cheers,
Frank
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>Was there an agreement between Disney and MGM about the use of
>the characters in the movie
Yup, Disney himself granted permission for the use of Mickey, the pigs, and
their tune, which doesn't seem totally surprising, since he himself used
caricatures of Stan and Ollie in some of his cartoons from the thirties (and
at least "Mickey's Gala Premiere" predated "Toyland").
Of course, in 1961, Disney did his own version of the film, which is
probably one of the reasons, apart from the terrifying bogeymen, why the L &
H version faded into relative obscurity (and I still haven't seen it yet).
Interestingly, in 1939, Laurel approached Disney for a possible animation of
the horse in the final scene of "The Flying Deuces", but, as you will guess
correctly, if you have seen that film, without success. Another film
featuring both L & H and Mickey is of course "Hollywood Party".
Cheers,
Frank
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Kingofduckburg
Merlin Jones--The Campus Kook & Scrambled Egghead
Message 42 -
2003-12-05 at 17:30:56
In general, I LOVE Tommy Kirk's Disney films, and I think he's a good actor,
but Merlin Jones is, in my opinion... Well, Annette is cute! I love the
Sherman Brothers theme songs to both of the Merlin Jones films, though! In
fact, now that I'm thinking about the two tunes, I'll probably be
humming, "They call him Merlin Jones..." all day.
I would like to see Tom Kirk make a comeback and appear in some new films too.
With good material, I think he could really be something!
Matt
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but Merlin Jones is, in my opinion... Well, Annette is cute! I love the
Sherman Brothers theme songs to both of the Merlin Jones films, though! In
fact, now that I'm thinking about the two tunes, I'll probably be
humming, "They call him Merlin Jones..." all day.
I would like to see Tom Kirk make a comeback and appear in some new films too.
With good material, I think he could really be something!
Matt
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Olaf Solstrand
Laurel & Hardy (NOT OT)
Message 43 -
2003-12-05 at 17:39:22
P? Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:15:14 +0200, skrev Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>:
> Regarding the three little pigs, he probably couldn't say much, as the
> tale existed long before Disney. (A *very* quick google search found a
> reference to an 1843 book, e.g.)
But hasn't Disney bought the rights to everything concerning the three
little pigs?
This morning, I heard on the radio that a Norwegian local theater group -
with thirteen actors, many of them children - who'd rehearsed the play
"Gummi-Tarzan" (based on the book by the same name by Ole Lund Kierkegaard,
I think) to play for 3-400 people (not for the money, not for the fame, but
for the fun), had to find another play, because Disney owned the rights to
the "Tarzan" name after the 1998(?) animated film. As they said it
themselves - they were forced to find another play in order to not be sued
by Disney.
And I KNOW that Tarzan was invented long before the late nineties. So
whether Disney'd invented the three little pigs or not... I don't think
that's of so great importance here. The Disney Company has invented very
few of their movie stars.
Olaf the Blue
> Regarding the three little pigs, he probably couldn't say much, as the
> tale existed long before Disney. (A *very* quick google search found a
> reference to an 1843 book, e.g.)
But hasn't Disney bought the rights to everything concerning the three
little pigs?
This morning, I heard on the radio that a Norwegian local theater group -
with thirteen actors, many of them children - who'd rehearsed the play
"Gummi-Tarzan" (based on the book by the same name by Ole Lund Kierkegaard,
I think) to play for 3-400 people (not for the money, not for the fame, but
for the fun), had to find another play, because Disney owned the rights to
the "Tarzan" name after the 1998(?) animated film. As they said it
themselves - they were forced to find another play in order to not be sued
by Disney.
And I KNOW that Tarzan was invented long before the late nineties. So
whether Disney'd invented the three little pigs or not... I don't think
that's of so great importance here. The Disney Company has invented very
few of their movie stars.
Olaf the Blue
Mads Jensen
Donald strips
Message 44 -
2003-12-05 at 17:46:48
Hi
Are there any periods in the Donald Duck newspaperstrip where it worked
like a story of some kind with a part each day, just like the Mickey
Mouse version by Gottfredson with more ?
Or if not a complete story, then just themes like Donald driving his car
doing silly things each day or something similar (like some nondisney
strips like Garfield, Calvin and Hobbes work, just to mention a few)
Thanks,
Mads
Are there any periods in the Donald Duck newspaperstrip where it worked
like a story of some kind with a part each day, just like the Mickey
Mouse version by Gottfredson with more ?
Or if not a complete story, then just themes like Donald driving his car
doing silly things each day or something similar (like some nondisney
strips like Garfield, Calvin and Hobbes work, just to mention a few)
Thanks,
Mads
Kingofduckburg
Tarzan
Message 45 -
2003-12-05 at 20:42:34
Olaf wrote:
>And I KNOW that Tarzan was invented long before the late nineties. So
>whether Disney'd invented the three little pigs or not... I don't think
>that's of so great importance here. The Disney Company has invented very
>few of their movie stars.
I think Tarzan may be in a different situation becuase he was the creation of
one writer in the early twentieth century (Edgar Rice Burroughs). I've noticed
that "Disney/Burroughs" is written beside of pictures from the Disney film on
my Disney day by day clander, so I don't think Disney has complete ownership of
the character. Plus there is a non-Disney Tarzan tv series currently airing
the USA.
Do any of you know anything about the origins of the Three little pigs? My
guess is that the pigs are a practically ancient and uncopyrightable folktale.
Matt
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>And I KNOW that Tarzan was invented long before the late nineties. So
>whether Disney'd invented the three little pigs or not... I don't think
>that's of so great importance here. The Disney Company has invented very
>few of their movie stars.
I think Tarzan may be in a different situation becuase he was the creation of
one writer in the early twentieth century (Edgar Rice Burroughs). I've noticed
that "Disney/Burroughs" is written beside of pictures from the Disney film on
my Disney day by day clander, so I don't think Disney has complete ownership of
the character. Plus there is a non-Disney Tarzan tv series currently airing
the USA.
Do any of you know anything about the origins of the Three little pigs? My
guess is that the pigs are a practically ancient and uncopyrightable folktale.
Matt
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