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Quote from user: HarukuroThat's a great Scrooge LadyQuackly, especially since its your first time drawing him! :D And Robb_K that B'rer Rabbit looks like official Disney art. Keep up the great work you two.

By the way I'm back after 4 (*gasp*) months of being offline here. It's great to be back anyway. :)
Thank you much!! :)

Quote from user: Robb_KNo, it hasn't been used yet. But, it will be. of course, I'm not good enough at inking to ink it. I would ruin it.
This makes me wonder about the possibility of covers made the way (the movies) Winnie the Pooh, The Aristocats and 101 Dalmatians were.
I don't know exactly what process was used for the former two, but I suppose it was the same as for the latter, namely, quite simply photocopying the animators' pencil animation-- no inking at all.

I love the resulting line art style; I'm especially fond of it in the Winnie features, and find it gives the other two movies a nice, distinguishing style which also somehow fits the period.
Was Robin Hood done the same way, come to think of it? Or The Jungle Book? Or the Sword in the Stone? I am sure about the first three titles (Pooh, Cats, 101), but not mcuh about those other titles; my memory may be playing tricks on me, simply because the drawing style is very similar.

Do you think such same think could be done for covers? Keep the pencil art and color it? Would it work better with a bit more art than on this Easter Egg gag?
An important element is that some construction lines are apparent in those movies; your pencil drawing is too clean, Robb; still this could be a nice way of preserving the pencil drawing's qualities without risking adding any inking differences or "mistakes" or cramping the style through over-careful inking.

I don't like coloured pencil lines. I like he traditional single line in ink (smoother than rough pencil lines. I also like traditional inking with fountain pen (split, spreading pen-as Barks used, and brush for the thicker lines and filling in large black areas. But it takes a lot of practice to master those skills.
We pencil in light blue, and then ink over it with pen and brush. Then we erase all the pencil lines with a very clean magic Rub erser. Then ONLY the inked lines are seen.
Here is my inked and hand-coloured version:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1848/bulbeggscfg8.jpg

Quote from user: OlivierSuperb!
I only strikes me now (probably because the colors make it stick out) that Scrooge's behind is too long: either the small part we see between is legs should be erased (turned into the box), or his fanny should be closer to his body; I think the way he is sitting suggests the latter. Maybe the line of his bust should be slightly more to the left, too.
One last thing: he seems to be looking a bit too high.
Yes, I noticed after finishing the colouring, that Scrooge's lower abdomen was too long, and not shaped correctly, and his weight is also not distributed correctly. I have given him a roll of fat, that falls over the lip of the wooden box, and hangs downward, in addition to an elongated L-shaped abdomen. I will fix the original blueline drawing, and also the black and white ink drawing (with white-out). Then, I'll have to colour it again.

He needs a significantly smaller and rounder bottom, placed lower and closer in atop the box. His left eyeball should be lower, and both pie cuts should be pointing downward, rather than straight ahead.

Quote from user: Will BarksQuote from user: Robb_KNo, it hasn't been used yet. But, it will be. of course, I'm not good enough at inking to ink it. I would ruin it.
Where are your covers published? In the Nederlands? Your Duck style is nice. Looks like a Barks artwork!
Only 2 have been published by Egmont, so far, and two others on Danish DDFR magazine:

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4540/stolenhorseshoespt9.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1473/rakepoolly6.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6246/wwiimickeyqo9.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7485/lightchangersgp9.jpg

You can check on "Rob Klein Index" on "Creators" Page on COA at: www.inducks.org to see what countries the 2 Egmont covers were printed in. I think that both have been printed in German magazines, so you may have them or have access to getting them second hand. I had submitted a whole stack of them to Gutenberghus (Danish Disney) between 1989 and 1994. I don't know if any others were drawn.

Here is my original gag for the pool cover:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3444/poolcxm9.jpg

Here's the original drawing for the lightchanging cover (based on a Barks really rough sketch):

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9599/lamp6si1.jpg

Quote from user: OlivierInteresting: how did the broom become a rake? was it your decision? what was the rationale?
I prefer the broom.

It looks like a gag for an animated feature, actually: first you would see Donald trying to hit the ball with his queue and missing it every time, either missing it completely or slipping on it; then, he would go and take a broom.
The editor decided the gag would be better with a rake and that Donald tears the pool table top. They also changed the game to Billiards, rather than Pool. Notice only 3 balls to my several.

The changes were all Egmont. They didn't consult me.

Quote from user: Will Barks@ Robb_K, do you also draw whole stories or just covers? And, yes, I recognise the cover with the rake :)
I draw whole stories in storyboard form, but my final pencil drawings haven't quite yet been accepted as adequate to be inked over. Some of the final artists have just drawn over my lines in a few panels in my stories, but, for the most part, they redraw them with slight or significant staging changes or changes in character expression.

Here is one of my storyboard pages. I draw them close to final pencil stage, so the final artist knows what I had in mind:

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1691/artintel1pq6.jpg