DAVID:
Yes, my birthday party story really was 52 pages (53 in Topolino's
edition), was drawn by Giorgio Cavazzano and had a crocodile in it. My
longest story to date is about to see print (a 75 page duck version of
"Gone with the Wind.")
GIANFRANCO:
Glad to find another Cavazzano fan on the list! Do you know much about
him? Could you please share what you know? Thanks!
DAVID, AGAIN:
Oops, forgot to tell you that Michael says he hasn't used Muscles again,
but he does remember that you've used him in a story. (He thinks you
told him at San Diego last year.)
Author
Topic: 199505
(234 messages)
Janet Gilbert
Disney-comics digest #675.
Message 166 -
1995-05-27 at 15:33:07
DAVID.A.GERSTEIN
When/where is MY OWN Comic-Con panel?
Message 167 -
1995-05-27 at 15:56:17
You got it... I'm really as clueless as the subject line
implies. When I left the United States, the San Diego Convention
folks hadn't yet told me exactly when my panel discussion was to be.
I had specified Friday at 4 or 5 P. M., and was in touch with them
early enough that I might have gotten "first dibs" on that time (as
happened last year).
Since so many people on the list are going to be congregating
at this thing, I'd sure like to get the final word on when and in
what room I'm supposed to set everything up. But it costs upwards of
$4 per minute to call the United States from here due to a
monopolistic arrangement my university has set up with the phone
system, so I can't call the San Diego Con folks to find out what's
what.
Can someone get in touch with them and find out for me when
"Disney Comics: What's All the Quacking About" is going to occur?
By the way... any Egmont writers who missed my last
announcement should know they're invited to speak at, or at least
attend, this panel discussion.
On an unrelated note... a recent letter I got from Pat Block
included Xeroxed art from his fourth story, which will be appearing
in DDA 35 (two months after DDA 34 also includes one of his
stories!). I know nothing more about this story, "The Poorest Duck
in Duckburg," except what the enclosed panels show. The Beagle Boys
have some very complicated gizmo hooked up that SUCKS money out of
Scrooge's money bin from below, and cranking a device that looks
vaguely like a faucet causes oodles of cash to spurt out into waiting
mine cars. "Before you can say 'grand theft'," laughs 176-167, "we
get ourselves a BIG HELPING of Scrooge McDuck's money!"
Looks like a fine story in the works. Written by Ron
Fernandez, by the way; he also letters it.
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
"Wherever he's going, give me two more tickets!"
implies. When I left the United States, the San Diego Convention
folks hadn't yet told me exactly when my panel discussion was to be.
I had specified Friday at 4 or 5 P. M., and was in touch with them
early enough that I might have gotten "first dibs" on that time (as
happened last year).
Since so many people on the list are going to be congregating
at this thing, I'd sure like to get the final word on when and in
what room I'm supposed to set everything up. But it costs upwards of
$4 per minute to call the United States from here due to a
monopolistic arrangement my university has set up with the phone
system, so I can't call the San Diego Con folks to find out what's
what.
Can someone get in touch with them and find out for me when
"Disney Comics: What's All the Quacking About" is going to occur?
By the way... any Egmont writers who missed my last
announcement should know they're invited to speak at, or at least
attend, this panel discussion.
On an unrelated note... a recent letter I got from Pat Block
included Xeroxed art from his fourth story, which will be appearing
in DDA 35 (two months after DDA 34 also includes one of his
stories!). I know nothing more about this story, "The Poorest Duck
in Duckburg," except what the enclosed panels show. The Beagle Boys
have some very complicated gizmo hooked up that SUCKS money out of
Scrooge's money bin from below, and cranking a device that looks
vaguely like a faucet causes oodles of cash to spurt out into waiting
mine cars. "Before you can say 'grand theft'," laughs 176-167, "we
get ourselves a BIG HELPING of Scrooge McDuck's money!"
Looks like a fine story in the works. Written by Ron
Fernandez, by the way; he also letters it.
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
"Wherever he's going, give me two more tickets!"
Bob Wright
Disney-comics digest #674.
Message 168 -
1995-05-27 at 16:45:52
DON: I recall your mentioning some of the "Pertwillaby" scripts that
appeared in RBCC had originally been written as duck stories. Do you have
any plans to port any over to DD, US etc.?
appeared in RBCC had originally been written as duck stories. Do you have
any plans to port any over to DD, US etc.?
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
A few more comments, and comments to comments...
Message 169 -
1995-05-27 at 18:07:42
Hi, here is Gianfranco Goria (Anonima Fumetti - Italian cartoonists
society), from Italy...
Jorgen you said:
>Ah, yes. The 177 pages story. I tried to find out who did it. The closest
>I could get was Giulio Chierchini, but I'm not sure. Information is very
>welcome :-)
I have in front of me Topolino n 1993: there is the first part of the
fantasy story "Ser Topolino e la Cavalcata dei Cavalieri Inesistenti" with
ducks and mice together.
The text is by Caterina Mognato and the art is by Giuseppe Dalla Santa. The
story was published in 5 parts, from Topolino (the Italian weekly magazine)
n 1993 to Topolino n 1996.
Do you need more info on the artists?
Bye! :-)
society), from Italy...
Jorgen you said:
>Ah, yes. The 177 pages story. I tried to find out who did it. The closest
>I could get was Giulio Chierchini, but I'm not sure. Information is very
>welcome :-)
I have in front of me Topolino n 1993: there is the first part of the
fantasy story "Ser Topolino e la Cavalcata dei Cavalieri Inesistenti" with
ducks and mice together.
The text is by Caterina Mognato and the art is by Giuseppe Dalla Santa. The
story was published in 5 parts, from Topolino (the Italian weekly magazine)
n 1993 to Topolino n 1996.
Do you need more info on the artists?
Bye! :-)
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #676.
Message 170 -
1995-05-28 at 07:19:00
MIKE:
Where did you get the idea that "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"
was the first Duck story I ever did?
Also, I wasn't waiting to do the "Lo$" until some specific time that
I thought I had "established" myself. I did it when the "political"
situation developed where Egmont wanted to do it before somebody at Disney
Disney Comics did it. I had some notion to do something like it in the back
of my mind, but I wouldn't have seriuosly considered it for years yet due to
how difficult the task would be, how slow it would be to do, and the fact it
wouldn't pay extra (this stuff all pays the same to everyone). I wasn't
anxious to get into it... and the number of pages I got done in 92 & 93 were
not so many as before or after. However, it was fun to do... just not very
profitable.
And don't get the impression that you need to have read "Lo$" part I
to understand "Of D and D and D". I did the latter story at a time when I
never knew I would be doing the "Lo$", so it makes fine sense all by itself.
I expect you'll be seeing it soon.
BOB:
Yes, I have been turning old Pertwillaby stories into Duck stories
ever since my first Duck story in 1987. The Pertwillaby stories (done as a
hobby for fanzines) were not done first as Duck stories, as you say... but I
had always pictured them as Duck stories.
But which ones were they? "The Son of the Sun" was an almost exact
copy of a Pertwillaby adventure. "Last Sled to Dawson" had elements of
another. "Incident at McDuck Tower" came from two pages of another. "The
Universal Solvent" was from another Pertwillaby adventure which, in turn, I
had done the original version of around 1959 in my own lil' private comic
books. And the story I'm doing now (titled either "The Once and Future Duck"
or "A Calisota Yankee in King Arthur's Court") is a copy of the last
Pertwillaby adventure which I never actually completed in fanzines back in
1977. And there's still bits of a few more old Pertwillaby stories that I'll
use in the future as the basis for some Duck adventures.
Where did you get the idea that "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"
was the first Duck story I ever did?
Also, I wasn't waiting to do the "Lo$" until some specific time that
I thought I had "established" myself. I did it when the "political"
situation developed where Egmont wanted to do it before somebody at Disney
Disney Comics did it. I had some notion to do something like it in the back
of my mind, but I wouldn't have seriuosly considered it for years yet due to
how difficult the task would be, how slow it would be to do, and the fact it
wouldn't pay extra (this stuff all pays the same to everyone). I wasn't
anxious to get into it... and the number of pages I got done in 92 & 93 were
not so many as before or after. However, it was fun to do... just not very
profitable.
And don't get the impression that you need to have read "Lo$" part I
to understand "Of D and D and D". I did the latter story at a time when I
never knew I would be doing the "Lo$", so it makes fine sense all by itself.
I expect you'll be seeing it soon.
BOB:
Yes, I have been turning old Pertwillaby stories into Duck stories
ever since my first Duck story in 1987. The Pertwillaby stories (done as a
hobby for fanzines) were not done first as Duck stories, as you say... but I
had always pictured them as Duck stories.
But which ones were they? "The Son of the Sun" was an almost exact
copy of a Pertwillaby adventure. "Last Sled to Dawson" had elements of
another. "Incident at McDuck Tower" came from two pages of another. "The
Universal Solvent" was from another Pertwillaby adventure which, in turn, I
had done the original version of around 1959 in my own lil' private comic
books. And the story I'm doing now (titled either "The Once and Future Duck"
or "A Calisota Yankee in King Arthur's Court") is a copy of the last
Pertwillaby adventure which I never actually completed in fanzines back in
1977. And there's still bits of a few more old Pertwillaby stories that I'll
use in the future as the basis for some Duck adventures.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
For David
Message 171 -
1995-05-28 at 12:01:31
ALL:
====
Sorry for this message, I don't know exactly how to reach David in
private-mail. But... this message is also for you if you want a copy
of (the few) banned cartoons I have, or something else.
Maybe Harry visits me this week, so he can tell me what all those
options on my mail-programm exactly do. Till then I use only options
if which I'm *sure* that they'll do what I want them to.
DAVID:
=====
> DANIEL:
> What a pleasure to have you here! I still remember that great
> visit we had with Harry when I was in Holland. Ah, if every evening
> could be as memorable as that...
It sure was a nice evening. But it saddened me a little when I
discovered that I wasn't as good in *speaking* English as I thought
I was. All those long pauses in my sentences...
Maybe you should visit me some more times, so I can get more
experienced in speaking English :-).
> When it comes to the Disney cartoons I need from your
> collection, I'd say there are only two: "Broken Toys" and "Spare the
> Rod" (the now-banned one where DD thinks that those pygmy cannibals
> are HDL in costume).
I will make a copy for you in NTSC. My videorecorder can only work in
black and white when using NTSC. So I will also make a PAL-copy, so
you can see it in color while using an American videorecorder with a
PAL-option.
Only two cartoons? Isn't there more you need? Can you send me a
complete list of all cartoons you need. If I don't have them now,
it doesn't mean I can't get them in the future.
I can also send you a copy of a programm that paid attention to Barks'
visit in Holland (including a short interview), *if* Harry kept that
recording in his tape-collection. (And, not to forget, *if* Harry
wants his tape being copied :-)).
As you know, I would like to have the banned cartoon "Fuhrers Face",
subtitled "Donald Duck in Nutzi-land". But let's stop here and talk
further in private-mail, when I know how to reach you.
====
Sorry for this message, I don't know exactly how to reach David in
private-mail. But... this message is also for you if you want a copy
of (the few) banned cartoons I have, or something else.
Maybe Harry visits me this week, so he can tell me what all those
options on my mail-programm exactly do. Till then I use only options
if which I'm *sure* that they'll do what I want them to.
DAVID:
=====
> DANIEL:
> What a pleasure to have you here! I still remember that great
> visit we had with Harry when I was in Holland. Ah, if every evening
> could be as memorable as that...
It sure was a nice evening. But it saddened me a little when I
discovered that I wasn't as good in *speaking* English as I thought
I was. All those long pauses in my sentences...
Maybe you should visit me some more times, so I can get more
experienced in speaking English :-).
> When it comes to the Disney cartoons I need from your
> collection, I'd say there are only two: "Broken Toys" and "Spare the
> Rod" (the now-banned one where DD thinks that those pygmy cannibals
> are HDL in costume).
I will make a copy for you in NTSC. My videorecorder can only work in
black and white when using NTSC. So I will also make a PAL-copy, so
you can see it in color while using an American videorecorder with a
PAL-option.
Only two cartoons? Isn't there more you need? Can you send me a
complete list of all cartoons you need. If I don't have them now,
it doesn't mean I can't get them in the future.
I can also send you a copy of a programm that paid attention to Barks'
visit in Holland (including a short interview), *if* Harry kept that
recording in his tape-collection. (And, not to forget, *if* Harry
wants his tape being copied :-)).
As you know, I would like to have the banned cartoon "Fuhrers Face",
subtitled "Donald Duck in Nutzi-land". But let's stop here and talk
further in private-mail, when I know how to reach you.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Guardians of the Lost Library
Message 172 -
1995-05-28 at 15:00:35
DON:
I've just read "GotLL" in the Donald Duck monthly here in Holland.
I've enjoyed it. I like all those back-ground details. After reading
your stories for the first time, I always search through the story to
find to the ones I didn't notice while reading. Even after that, I
still see more details while re-picking up a story! (For example, the
mices in GotLL kneeling for the lantern.)
I have some questions about GotLL:
Which facts in the story are really happened? You give so much
details about the library being moved and copied through the
centuries, that I do believe it really happened (untill the last
moving: The library being moved to the Duckburg area).
There was especially one detail of which I think it must be true,
because there was no reason to say it: In Constantinopel a nephew
says that the library is shrank. The reason why I think this is true,
is that this comment didn't add anything to the story itself. Anyway,
the given reason *why* the library was shrank is very vague to me
("Maybe they skipped the plays.") So, what is true and what is made
up by you?
While searching the library Scrooge runs into a soccer-stadium during
a soccer-match. At a certain point someone says that it is not
forbidden by the law to dig during a match. Then the referee points
out why the rule (digging during a match) was scrapped, which made no
sense to me. Can you tell me more about this scene?
I'm curious to see the original message on the sign in Scrooge's
office (panel 2, page 21, first version). In Holland the joke was
quit funny: "Look out! Slippery! Bribe-money!" The word "bribe" in
Holland also means "grease".
Harry bought for me the GotLL-Gladstone, so I will read that version
in the near future. (But the "original" seemed okay to me.)
HANG GLIDERS BE HANGED
======================
Does anyone of you know about this Barks-story? Barks made it as a
synopsis during the seventies, maybe at the same time he made "Go
Slowly, Sands of Time". (You can read the synopsis in CBL1.) The
story is also published as a comic, coded D6886. The artist didn't
follow the synopsis very close, but the plot is the same.
SCROOGE AND THE ASWAN-DAM
=========================
This is a story Barks rejected in an early stage. The only remains of
the story are two letters he sent to friends/fans in about 1962,
revealing some of the story. The story Barks made to replace "Aswan
Dam", was "The Golden Nugget Boat" (US 35). As far as I know Barks
didn't make any art for "Aswan Dam", but maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe those two items are some of your interest, or am I telling some
facts that everyone here already knows?
Daniel (age 21, the youngest member of Disney-comics?)
I've just read "GotLL" in the Donald Duck monthly here in Holland.
I've enjoyed it. I like all those back-ground details. After reading
your stories for the first time, I always search through the story to
find to the ones I didn't notice while reading. Even after that, I
still see more details while re-picking up a story! (For example, the
mices in GotLL kneeling for the lantern.)
I have some questions about GotLL:
Which facts in the story are really happened? You give so much
details about the library being moved and copied through the
centuries, that I do believe it really happened (untill the last
moving: The library being moved to the Duckburg area).
There was especially one detail of which I think it must be true,
because there was no reason to say it: In Constantinopel a nephew
says that the library is shrank. The reason why I think this is true,
is that this comment didn't add anything to the story itself. Anyway,
the given reason *why* the library was shrank is very vague to me
("Maybe they skipped the plays.") So, what is true and what is made
up by you?
While searching the library Scrooge runs into a soccer-stadium during
a soccer-match. At a certain point someone says that it is not
forbidden by the law to dig during a match. Then the referee points
out why the rule (digging during a match) was scrapped, which made no
sense to me. Can you tell me more about this scene?
I'm curious to see the original message on the sign in Scrooge's
office (panel 2, page 21, first version). In Holland the joke was
quit funny: "Look out! Slippery! Bribe-money!" The word "bribe" in
Holland also means "grease".
Harry bought for me the GotLL-Gladstone, so I will read that version
in the near future. (But the "original" seemed okay to me.)
HANG GLIDERS BE HANGED
======================
Does anyone of you know about this Barks-story? Barks made it as a
synopsis during the seventies, maybe at the same time he made "Go
Slowly, Sands of Time". (You can read the synopsis in CBL1.) The
story is also published as a comic, coded D6886. The artist didn't
follow the synopsis very close, but the plot is the same.
SCROOGE AND THE ASWAN-DAM
=========================
This is a story Barks rejected in an early stage. The only remains of
the story are two letters he sent to friends/fans in about 1962,
revealing some of the story. The story Barks made to replace "Aswan
Dam", was "The Golden Nugget Boat" (US 35). As far as I know Barks
didn't make any art for "Aswan Dam", but maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe those two items are some of your interest, or am I telling some
facts that everyone here already knows?
Daniel (age 21, the youngest member of Disney-comics?)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
I almost forgot...
Message 173 -
1995-05-28 at 15:08:06
NISSE:
I almost forgot to thank you for sending the digests. Thanks a lot!
Daniel
I almost forgot to thank you for sending the digests. Thanks a lot!
Daniel
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #676.
Message 174 -
1995-05-28 at 22:06:43
DANIEL: (not Shane)
So the art was changed in a Santa Claus story? I don't know about
Holland, but in Finland Santa doesn't have 'happy little elves' but something
more like gnomes to help him. If so is in Holland also, then were those
people changed as well?
HOMEBREW:
>I cannot believe you remembered that kind offer, Mike! So many folks make
It's nothing really, but the real problem is remembering the other
guy I promised to send the little Scrooge bank. I had his name in my mail
box but (would you believe ;) it was destroyed by a computer error. The whole
Finnish Freenet was down!
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
So the art was changed in a Santa Claus story? I don't know about
Holland, but in Finland Santa doesn't have 'happy little elves' but something
more like gnomes to help him. If so is in Holland also, then were those
people changed as well?
HOMEBREW:
>I cannot believe you remembered that kind offer, Mike! So many folks make
It's nothing really, but the real problem is remembering the other
guy I promised to send the little Scrooge bank. I had his name in my mail
box but (would you believe ;) it was destroyed by a computer error. The whole
Finnish Freenet was down!
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
Something on Topolino n. 2011
Message 175 -
1995-05-28 at 22:55:20
Dear Janet,
Yes, your birthday party story is 53 pages in Topolino's edition (Topolino
n. 2011, published in 465.660 copies), and was (greatly) drawn by Giorgio
Cavazzano (and has a crocodile in it). I have it in front of me...
Did you do it directly for Italy? Its code is I 2011... Was it reprinted
elsewhere? Did they pay you royalties (or nothing at all as they use to do
with us)? If it was reprinted in other countries, was it colored in the same
"hard" way? Here it was colored by Leopoldo Barbarini, at the computer... :-(
Topolino n. 2011 was a special number, containing two stories drawn by
Cavazzano, one by Corrado Mastantuono and two by carl barks.
Bye!
Yes, your birthday party story is 53 pages in Topolino's edition (Topolino
n. 2011, published in 465.660 copies), and was (greatly) drawn by Giorgio
Cavazzano (and has a crocodile in it). I have it in front of me...
Did you do it directly for Italy? Its code is I 2011... Was it reprinted
elsewhere? Did they pay you royalties (or nothing at all as they use to do
with us)? If it was reprinted in other countries, was it colored in the same
"hard" way? Here it was colored by Leopoldo Barbarini, at the computer... :-(
Topolino n. 2011 was a special number, containing two stories drawn by
Cavazzano, one by Corrado Mastantuono and two by carl barks.
Bye!
Janet Gilbert
Disney-comics digest #677.
Message 176 -
1995-05-29 at 08:16:42
Don:
I'm looking forward to seeing your "A Calisota Yankee in King Arthur's
Court." Last year I did a digest story for Egmont called "A Duckburg
Dandy in King Arthur's Court." (It's been drawn by an artist called
Carrion of "Estudios Bonet," whatever that means.) It will be fun to
compare our two versions! :-)
Gianfranco:
I wrote the birthday story for Egmont. They don't pay royalties for
reprints, but do I understand you to mean that Disney Italia does? Lucky
you!
I'm not sure which countries this story appeared in, but I do have a copy
of it in Danish (colored in the Egmont "house" style, and in the French
Piscou DD Birthday Special (where it was reformatted to 4 tiers and
colored "soft").
I'm looking forward to seeing your "A Calisota Yankee in King Arthur's
Court." Last year I did a digest story for Egmont called "A Duckburg
Dandy in King Arthur's Court." (It's been drawn by an artist called
Carrion of "Estudios Bonet," whatever that means.) It will be fun to
compare our two versions! :-)
Gianfranco:
I wrote the birthday story for Egmont. They don't pay royalties for
reprints, but do I understand you to mean that Disney Italia does? Lucky
you!
I'm not sure which countries this story appeared in, but I do have a copy
of it in Danish (colored in the Egmont "house" style, and in the French
Piscou DD Birthday Special (where it was reformatted to 4 tiers and
colored "soft").
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Alcohol, cigarettes, wolf-eating pigs...
Message 177 -
1995-05-29 at 08:23:38
WHAT'S *NOT* BANNED?
====================
There's always a lot of talking about Disney banning stories or
subjects. Maybe we can also talk about published material that Disney
obviously "forgot" to ban. From Holland I have a few odd examples:
Is Daisy *smoking*? Well, on the cover of a 1970 Dutch Donald Duck
Weekly she's caught red-handed with a cigarette between her fingers...
Does Donald *drink*? On the the cover of a 1966 Dutch Donald Duck
Weekly he is caught with a huge glass of beer in his hands...
A Dutch 1977 parody (made by a Disney artist) tells the *last* story
of the Big Bad Wolf. But, while chasing the pigs once again, the Bad
Wolf *himself* gets roasted on a grill by the pigs.
In another 1977 parody (a gag, made by a Disney artist) Grandma tells
Gus she has a nice surprise in her bedroom... Gus thinks she wants to
have *sex* and runs into her bedroom undressed. But... he is wrong,
Grandma has only a big pie kept in her bedroom. (Hmmm, never saw Gus
so *active*.)
Is Holland the only country in which cases like this occured? Or are
there more countries? (Maybe parodies don't count, but I thought you
might like to know.) In an old digest I learned about a story in
which Mickey(?) tries to protect a child from child-abuse...
---Daniel 2
====================
There's always a lot of talking about Disney banning stories or
subjects. Maybe we can also talk about published material that Disney
obviously "forgot" to ban. From Holland I have a few odd examples:
Is Daisy *smoking*? Well, on the cover of a 1970 Dutch Donald Duck
Weekly she's caught red-handed with a cigarette between her fingers...
Does Donald *drink*? On the the cover of a 1966 Dutch Donald Duck
Weekly he is caught with a huge glass of beer in his hands...
A Dutch 1977 parody (made by a Disney artist) tells the *last* story
of the Big Bad Wolf. But, while chasing the pigs once again, the Bad
Wolf *himself* gets roasted on a grill by the pigs.
In another 1977 parody (a gag, made by a Disney artist) Grandma tells
Gus she has a nice surprise in her bedroom... Gus thinks she wants to
have *sex* and runs into her bedroom undressed. But... he is wrong,
Grandma has only a big pie kept in her bedroom. (Hmmm, never saw Gus
so *active*.)
Is Holland the only country in which cases like this occured? Or are
there more countries? (Maybe parodies don't count, but I thought you
might like to know.) In an old digest I learned about a story in
which Mickey(?) tries to protect a child from child-abuse...
---Daniel 2
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Christmas-gnomes
Message 178 -
1995-05-29 at 09:20:36
MIKE:
> Well, if the gnomes had red clothes and hats they probably were the
> ones I meant. If you have read the Dutch book "Leven en werken van de Kabouter"
> then you could be quite close. The Christmas gnomes however are a bit different
> from those gnomes. They are often considered like children of Santa Claus and
> have no beard.
In the story the gnomes have beards and look very much like "David de
kabouter" from Rien Poortvliet (artist of that book?). There are also
women-gnomes and young little gnomes among them. But I still think
they're the gnomes you mean. To me the Dutch dialogue seems to omit
the Christmas-origin of the gnomes.
Grandma tells the others she forgot to leave a plate with pap one
*Christmas* and then everything went wrong. As far as I know you'll
get the same problems with the Christmas-gnomes when you forget
leaving a plate at Christmas. That's also a reason for me to think
the gnomes in the story are those Christmas-gnomes.
(In the Dutch version they have *no* red clothes, but I don't think
that counts, because maybe the Dutch publishers did the coloring
themselves.)
What do others think? Does anyone know this story?
Have a nice day!
---Daniel 2
> Well, if the gnomes had red clothes and hats they probably were the
> ones I meant. If you have read the Dutch book "Leven en werken van de Kabouter"
> then you could be quite close. The Christmas gnomes however are a bit different
> from those gnomes. They are often considered like children of Santa Claus and
> have no beard.
In the story the gnomes have beards and look very much like "David de
kabouter" from Rien Poortvliet (artist of that book?). There are also
women-gnomes and young little gnomes among them. But I still think
they're the gnomes you mean. To me the Dutch dialogue seems to omit
the Christmas-origin of the gnomes.
Grandma tells the others she forgot to leave a plate with pap one
*Christmas* and then everything went wrong. As far as I know you'll
get the same problems with the Christmas-gnomes when you forget
leaving a plate at Christmas. That's also a reason for me to think
the gnomes in the story are those Christmas-gnomes.
(In the Dutch version they have *no* red clothes, but I don't think
that counts, because maybe the Dutch publishers did the coloring
themselves.)
What do others think? Does anyone know this story?
Have a nice day!
---Daniel 2
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #677.
Message 179 -
1995-05-29 at 09:36:19
DON:
I thought you said something like "the next story made by me to be
published in Finland is "Of Ducks.." which is the first" and then something.
Probably you know better (:-) but hmm, if it wasn't that then what was your
first?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
I thought you said something like "the next story made by me to be
published in Finland is "Of Ducks.." which is the first" and then something.
Probably you know better (:-) but hmm, if it wasn't that then what was your
first?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Mike Pohjola
About gnomes and Daniels
Message 180 -
1995-05-29 at 09:50:45
... And this is my answer to previous.
DANIEL II:
>Reading this I think these gnomes *must be* the gnomes you mean. When
>I first red the story, the whole gnome-thing didn't make sense to me.
>Now it does, and it improves the story a lot to me. (Maybe also to
>Harry. Does it, Harry?)
Well, if the gnomes had red clothes and hats they probably were the
ones I meant. If you have read the Dutch book "Leven en werken van de Kabouter"
then you could be quite close. The Christmas gnomes however are a bit different
from those gnomes. They are often considered like children of Santa Claus and
have no beard.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
DANIEL II:
>Reading this I think these gnomes *must be* the gnomes you mean. When
>I first red the story, the whole gnome-thing didn't make sense to me.
>Now it does, and it improves the story a lot to me. (Maybe also to
>Harry. Does it, Harry?)
Well, if the gnomes had red clothes and hats they probably were the
ones I meant. If you have read the Dutch book "Leven en werken van de Kabouter"
then you could be quite close. The Christmas gnomes however are a bit different
from those gnomes. They are often considered like children of Santa Claus and
have no beard.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie