Keskustelujen arkisto

This is only testing for the mailling !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi Hello!!

David:
> I have no idea who Belle and Hustler are. Does anyone have any
> reasonable candidates for these apparently regular characters?

Belle Duck is a big female running a Mississippi boat. She has a hunch for
Scrooge, but that's not mutual (and it's less strong than Brigitta McBridge
has). Her ultimate goal is to have a boat ride with Scrooge by full moon.

In the stories with Belle (I know of only 8 S-coded stories, drawn by Fletcher,
Hubbard and Strobl), Donald does not appear, only U$ and the nephews.

In the current version of the Disney comics Database, she is named Bella. This
is her Dutch name.

"Hustler"? Could this be an annoying person with very round thick glasses?
He appeared in a few Scrooge stories. Dutch name: Klusjesman Duck.
What does the word "hustler" mean?

--Harry.

P.S. I sent Per a new version of the Disney comics Database. Within the next
few days, it will be available through ftp (I think..).

please remove me from your list.
Thank you,
Paula Neville

Please unsubscribe me. Thanx

On Tue, 16 May David wrote:

> Dear Per, Fredrik, et al,
>
> [...]
>
> Per, can you please change the name on
> the Disney Comics Characters page (you know, the one with the links to
> images of the various characters)? Also, maybe you can change it on the
> interlingual guide. (I'd ask Fredrik, but I haven't heard from him in
> months... are you still there, Fredrik?)

Thanks for your information, David!

I'm still here, and I wish I could be more active, too. As it is, I am
hard pressed even to have time to update the interlingual and Van Horn
lists. Anyway, a new version of each WILL appear. Before summer. Any
summer. (But don't take my word for it.)

/F

PER:
Digest #666 was one of the strangest I'd ever seen, with a
message from Mike -- which had never appeared in a Digest before --
mysteriously "blended" with someone else's subscription request as if
the other person was "quoting" it in her message. That other
person got her E-Mail address at the top of the Digest, but Mike's
didn't appear. Huh?
Folk more superstitious than I might attribute the foul-up to
the fact that this was Digest #666! ;-)

DON:
Do Gladstone's (yours, Egmont's) many Eisner nominations change
their plans about having a booth at the San Diego convention? Also,
I have no way of getting in touch with the Con men for a month.
Might you be able to check and see when exactly they have scheduled
my discussion panel? I'd like to announce that on the Digest.
Do you know what else is going to be in COLLECTORY #1? I bet
they're going to use that VERY uncanonical Branca story ("No Dime for
Stardom") that I translated back before I knew about the LO$... the
one with Magica disguising herself as Glittering Goldie. It's an
enjoyable story, but danged if it's canonical. It IS set in the
Yukon. (And it's a 9-pager, which means it isn't ALL that could fill
up the rest of the comic.)

DWIGHT:
Did you ever find out whose version of the 3-page Daan Jippes
escargot story John is going to use? I'm just curious (and I'm as
much interested to see your version as I enjoyed working on my
own interpretation). Boy, I hope there aren't any translation boners
like this again, on my part... you didn't translate a Dutch Big Bad
Wolf story recently, now, did you, Dwight? ;-)
When John Clark does get around to publishing that "which-way"
story, I hate to mention it but he's not going to be able to use that
page in which MM and GO announce that "this is the first-ever Choose
Your Own Adventure comic" (or some such). In the lengthy time
Gladstone has sat on the story since you told us about translating
it, REN AND STIMPY SPECIAL #4 (I think) had such a story, titled
"Masters of Time and Space". So in the United States, that Ren and
Stimpy story (actually quite good) has the honors of being the first.
Gladstone can't really make the claim unless they point out that the
Italian story was the first in the entire world, which might seem
like a flimsy excuse to some readers (but I don't know!) when it's
appearing as the second in the States.
And was even the Italian one first? I don't know when the
Italian "which-way" story originally appeared, but around 1985 the
French JOURNAL DE MICKEY included some stories of that type with
Taran from "The Black Cauldron". Maybe THOSE were the first in the
genre.

MATTIAS:
I still haven't seen NAFSKuriren (spelling?) in my neck of the
woods yet. I hope things have gone okay.
I'm soon going to make arrangements for my article ("A Portrait
of the Artist as a Young Mouse"/"A Mouse in Black and White") to
appear in an American magazine -- probably right when I get back to
the States.

David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>

"Why, we must be the us who were shoutin' and hollerin' for no
reason whatsoever!"
"DANGED RIGHT WE GOT A REASON! That me's useeng a blowtorch
near the ROCKET TANKS!"
"AAAAAH! You'll blow us all to keengdom come!"
"EEEEEEE! What he said! What he said!"
(Quote from the Ren and Stimpy which-way story)

DON (42 digests ago):
> [Disney] will allow Gladstone to use Donald or Mickey in an ad
> promoting their comics, but it must seem to be a scene OUT OF a story
> or somesuch. Disney will NOT allow Gladstone to use a picture of
> Donald pointing AT a DONALD DUCK comic book because that would
> indicate that Donald/Disney ENDORSES said comic.
The interesting thing is that Disney allows Marvel to get away
with this -- giving me the distinct feeling that Disney gives Marvel
preferential treatment. One of Marvel's standard subscription ads
shows Aladdin and Jasmine in a fully painted scene, on the balcony of
a castle (or something) against a starry sky, gesturing toward some
Marvel Disneys.

The Ranger List -- whose letters I now ftp from an archive --
has confirmed a rumor I heard: Marvel doesn't give a whit about who
treats them preferentially. They have just cancelled ALL their
Disney titles but two -- one based on the superhero cartoon
GARGOYLES, and one "rotating" title which will feature Ariel one
month, Aladdin the next month, and Beauty and the Beast the month
afterward. I don't think Disney is going to renew Marvel's license.
I don't think Marvel cares.
I don't know what Marvel's "rotating contents" comic is going
to be called. Does anyone? The latest Diamond PREVIEWS had no
Marvel listings, since they're distributing on their own now. I
didn't bother to find a Marvel distribution catalog. Does someone
have one, and if so, what's this comic called?
THE LITTLE MERMAID sold very well in Disney Comics' own 4-issue
series, but I'm starting to believe that this was due to how Peter
David wrote the stories like classic Disney comics (even if the art
was laid out in a more Marvel-style). David did a good job, leaving
me to wonder why Marvel didn't take advantage of his talent when they
restarted the title themselves.
All this proves is the same thing Disney proved under Len Wein:
Disney comic readers don't tend to care for Disney comics edited,
written, and laid out in the Marvel format. Editors who've believed
Marvel's way is the only way to do things have learned differently
twice now. Are we going to have to watch someone learn again? I
sure hope next time things go right.

And I'd like to see Disney let Gladstone make its ads the way
Marvel does -- or did. Who, outside Disney itself, imagines that a
Donald Duck comic book is not endorsed by Donald Duck (geez, this
sounds silly) or that Donald's endorsing of a Donald promotional item
has something to do with Disney themselves endorsing it? Maybe this
is all so much double-talk...

David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
"The only way for anyone to get ahead of Mickey Mouse -- is to
run in front of him!"

David Gerstein wrote:
> The interesting thing is that Disney allows Marvel to get away
> with this -- giving me the distinct feeling that Disney gives Marvel
> preferential treatment. One of Marvel's standard subscription ads
> shows Aladdin and Jasmine in a fully painted scene, on the balcony of
> a castle (or something) against a starry sky, gesturing toward some
> Marvel Disneys.

Actually, the feeling I get is that Marvel and Disney really
don't communicate that well...either that, or they don't
deal with those higher up there in the administravia.

It is kind of sad to see that the Editors are the last
to know about productions that have bearing on the
story development. (For example, Marvel
editor Hildy Mesnick did not seem to know of an upcoming
Aladdin direct to video release until somewhere
between issues 9-10). One other thing
is that story lines were introduced
that should have been avoided, ie.
Aladdin's parentage.

> THE LITTLE MERMAID sold very well in Disney Comics' own 4-issue
> series, but I'm starting to believe that this was due to how Peter
> David wrote the stories like classic Disney comics (even if the art
> was laid out in a more Marvel-style). David did a good job, leaving
> me to wonder why Marvel didn't take advantage of his talent when they
> restarted the title themselves.

One other thing is that Peter David is regarded as a "name"
in the comic industry :)
>
> And I'd like to see Disney let Gladstone make its ads the way
> Marvel does -- or did. Who, outside Disney itself, imagines that a
> Donald Duck comic book is not endorsed by Donald Duck (geez, this
> sounds silly) or that Donald's endorsing of a Donald promotional item
> has something to do with Disney themselves endorsing it? Maybe this
> is all so much double-talk...

Actually, it doesn't seem quite fair does it? Marvel has
been using images from character model sheets (at least wiht Aladdin)
in the ads, as you have referred to.

The other thing that has bothered me about Marvel
Disney comics is that while the rest of Marvel
comics are published and upgraded to better
paper and computer enhanced coloring,
these comics are still put out on newsprint,
and feature flat color.

*sigh*
Unfortunately, we have to live with that.

Sherline
--
Sherline Lee
(Email removed) ()_()
Northwestern University (_)
ResCon/Disney Nut Jasmine