I said:
> But then again, this
> story would take place 8 years after 1966, which is way after Scrooge
> died (in the Rosa universe, at least).
and Gianfranco asked:
> mh? In Italy WDco. don't let us (writers for the stories) even talk about
> death... Where could I find that story in which Scrooge dies?
There is no story in which Scrooge dies. But Don Rosa had made a "Duck
universe" where all characters have specific birth and death dates, to
make the world more "real". Besides, he needed something like that
for his "Life of Scrooge" stories. For example, Scrooge was born in
1867.
In (almost) all of Rosa's stories the "present" is somewhere in the
mid-50s, even if the story is made in 1995.
If we extend this to Barks' stories, the original Micro-Ducks story
would have taken place in, let's say, 1952 (even when it was published
in 1966). 8 years after that would be 1960. This would mean Huey, Dewey
and Louie would be teenagers (or maybe even over 20). This will never be
allowed in a Disney comic (well, maybe after DuckDaze?), so when Don
wants to stick to his universe, he'll never make a follow-up to the Micro
Ducks story.
I'm just recalling what Don said on this list before. Maybe you changed
your mind, Don? (Or have you gone to Germany already?)
--Harry.
Author
Topic: 199505
(234 messages)
H.W. Fluks
Scrooge died?
Message 226 -
1995-05-31 at 12:27:24
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #679.
Message 227 -
1995-05-31 at 15:19:23
DON:
I was in the local library today and found some last year Aku Ankkas
with articles about you. The first one is the one where they ask for mail
to you:
___
The American Don Rosa has established a strong group of fans to his comics
here in Finland. The editor has managed to get possession of the man's home
address but we do not dare to publish it yet at this stage. If you however
wish to reach your favourite drawer through mail, you can post the letters
here to editor. We'll gather letters addressed to Don during November and
December and then send them unopened to the artist - even in many packages
if that's what it takes. And need I remind you the letters should be written
in English.
We have aquired a photo of Don Rosa from Denmark so the Finnish, too,
will know what the man looks like. Do notice this, "Donald Forever". Let's
yet quote the letter of the "rosaist" Juha: "Don Rosa was about as old as
Carl Barks was when he started to draw comics. Until now most of Rosa's
stories have been established on some Barks classics, or at least the stories
have gained some extra power from Barks' stories. I do however believe that
when Rosa gets rid of this 'Barks cradle' of his, we will have a chance to
prove the birth of many of the favourite stories of the 2000s.
About Barks we heard only after his retirement, Rosa we have now! So tell
us the address of Rosa so we can tell him too what a GENIOUS he is."
___
And with the article there is a picture of Lo$ story where Scrooge
gets angry in Africa and has all sorts of wild animals around him. There is
a text under it saying: "Dynamy of Rosa's graphics. Can you find Mickey?" It
took me weeks to notice the little Mickey under the elephants foot.
I personally don't know if it really is such a bad thing to base your
stories on some old ones. That is what brings the feel of some unity to the
Duck Universe.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
I was in the local library today and found some last year Aku Ankkas
with articles about you. The first one is the one where they ask for mail
to you:
___
The American Don Rosa has established a strong group of fans to his comics
here in Finland. The editor has managed to get possession of the man's home
address but we do not dare to publish it yet at this stage. If you however
wish to reach your favourite drawer through mail, you can post the letters
here to editor. We'll gather letters addressed to Don during November and
December and then send them unopened to the artist - even in many packages
if that's what it takes. And need I remind you the letters should be written
in English.
We have aquired a photo of Don Rosa from Denmark so the Finnish, too,
will know what the man looks like. Do notice this, "Donald Forever". Let's
yet quote the letter of the "rosaist" Juha: "Don Rosa was about as old as
Carl Barks was when he started to draw comics. Until now most of Rosa's
stories have been established on some Barks classics, or at least the stories
have gained some extra power from Barks' stories. I do however believe that
when Rosa gets rid of this 'Barks cradle' of his, we will have a chance to
prove the birth of many of the favourite stories of the 2000s.
About Barks we heard only after his retirement, Rosa we have now! So tell
us the address of Rosa so we can tell him too what a GENIOUS he is."
___
And with the article there is a picture of Lo$ story where Scrooge
gets angry in Africa and has all sorts of wild animals around him. There is
a text under it saying: "Dynamy of Rosa's graphics. Can you find Mickey?" It
took me weeks to notice the little Mickey under the elephants foot.
I personally don't know if it really is such a bad thing to base your
stories on some old ones. That is what brings the feel of some unity to the
Duck Universe.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #679.
Message 228 -
1995-05-31 at 16:16:00
>AUGIE:
I draw the size that Egmont dictates its art be done -- I measure my
sheets with a guide that I prepared long ago, but I think the image area of
an entire page is about 12 1/2" X 18". The sheet of paper is somewhat larger
counting the borders. And I do each page in halves. This is smaller than
Barks and Block, though if Block ever manages to get on with Egmont, he'll
be required to reduce his page size. (Van Horn draws a bit larger due to
some understanding he had with a now-retired Egmont editor.) I have NO wish
to draw larger since my "work ethic" compels me to fill every iota of space
with as much "entertainment" as I possibly can cram in for the readers, and
the larger the space gets, the slower I would complete my work, filling the
larger areas with even more details.
DANNY:
I could do a sequel to the MicroDucks easilly. Of course, my stories
take place in the past, so that's no problem. And even though I maintain
that $crooge died in 1967 and the MicroDucks said they'd be back in 8 years
after their first visit, that wouldn't be a problem either. Whose years were
they referring to? Our years or what they call years? Plus perhaps their
space travel would require much-much-faster-than-light speeds (and ANY
travel between our system and some other would require that)which would warp
their time values. PLUS smaller creatures operate on a much faster time
continuum than larger ones (that principal would take too much space here to
explain, but it's a fact). Obviously, I've put thought into this sequel
already, and it would be easy to do.
I have it on my potential sequel list, but should I ever do it? If
someone at Egmont did a sequel several years back, good or bad, it would be
rather presumptious of me to do a separate sequel -- that would be rather
insulting to the other writer and artist, no? I should probably leave that
story alone -- there are LOTS of other Barks stories to do sequels to!
HARRY:
The one-page gag in TEMPO magazine would be joint property between
Disney and TEMPO since it uses the TEMPO symbol. That would mean that no
other publication could use it, or would want to since the gag is based on
that symbol and would not make sense outside of TEMPO magazine. You'll need
to get a copy from Germany. As usual, I'll be lucky to get my own copy. I
haven't even been sent the last 2 or 3 "Rosa Library" albums yet!
ALL:
That should be the last message I can send (unless I manage to get
one more in tonight sometime). I leave for my German tour tomorrow, and I
hope I can see as many of you folks as possible over there. If anyone has
some question they were on the verge of asking me, please ask NOW and maybe
I'll see it in tonight's Digest. If not, goodbye until around June 18.
I draw the size that Egmont dictates its art be done -- I measure my
sheets with a guide that I prepared long ago, but I think the image area of
an entire page is about 12 1/2" X 18". The sheet of paper is somewhat larger
counting the borders. And I do each page in halves. This is smaller than
Barks and Block, though if Block ever manages to get on with Egmont, he'll
be required to reduce his page size. (Van Horn draws a bit larger due to
some understanding he had with a now-retired Egmont editor.) I have NO wish
to draw larger since my "work ethic" compels me to fill every iota of space
with as much "entertainment" as I possibly can cram in for the readers, and
the larger the space gets, the slower I would complete my work, filling the
larger areas with even more details.
DANNY:
I could do a sequel to the MicroDucks easilly. Of course, my stories
take place in the past, so that's no problem. And even though I maintain
that $crooge died in 1967 and the MicroDucks said they'd be back in 8 years
after their first visit, that wouldn't be a problem either. Whose years were
they referring to? Our years or what they call years? Plus perhaps their
space travel would require much-much-faster-than-light speeds (and ANY
travel between our system and some other would require that)which would warp
their time values. PLUS smaller creatures operate on a much faster time
continuum than larger ones (that principal would take too much space here to
explain, but it's a fact). Obviously, I've put thought into this sequel
already, and it would be easy to do.
I have it on my potential sequel list, but should I ever do it? If
someone at Egmont did a sequel several years back, good or bad, it would be
rather presumptious of me to do a separate sequel -- that would be rather
insulting to the other writer and artist, no? I should probably leave that
story alone -- there are LOTS of other Barks stories to do sequels to!
HARRY:
The one-page gag in TEMPO magazine would be joint property between
Disney and TEMPO since it uses the TEMPO symbol. That would mean that no
other publication could use it, or would want to since the gag is based on
that symbol and would not make sense outside of TEMPO magazine. You'll need
to get a copy from Germany. As usual, I'll be lucky to get my own copy. I
haven't even been sent the last 2 or 3 "Rosa Library" albums yet!
ALL:
That should be the last message I can send (unless I manage to get
one more in tonight sometime). I leave for my German tour tomorrow, and I
hope I can see as many of you folks as possible over there. If anyone has
some question they were on the verge of asking me, please ask NOW and maybe
I'll see it in tonight's Digest. If not, goodbye until around June 18.
Dr S Davison
Help please
Message 229 -
1995-05-31 at 17:33:00
Being a Disney fan I decided to join the mailing list to learn more. But
as I'm new I'm getting very confused with all the messages regarding
certain comics/cartoonists etc. Can someone please let me know where I can
start, and where to go to get copies of the comics - I'm i the UK living
about 40 miles west of London. I've tried accessing
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/
as suggested on the subscribe acceptance mail but it returns the error -
Can't Access Document: http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/.
Reason: System call `connect' failed: Connection refused.
Thanks
Sue
(SD1621.ggr.co.uk)
as I'm new I'm getting very confused with all the messages regarding
certain comics/cartoonists etc. Can someone please let me know where I can
start, and where to go to get copies of the comics - I'm i the UK living
about 40 miles west of London. I've tried accessing
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/
as suggested on the subscribe acceptance mail but it returns the error -
Can't Access Document: http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/.
Reason: System call `connect' failed: Connection refused.
Thanks
Sue
(SD1621.ggr.co.uk)
Neal Kinney
Who's the youngest member?
Message 230 -
1995-05-31 at 19:48:32
At 05:28 PM 5/30/95, Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
>AUGIE:
>
>> Nope, you aren't the youngest. So far as I know, I hold that
>> distinction at 19 years of age, though I've been an ardent
>> $crooge fan since I can remember.
>
>No, you're *also* not the youngest. The youngest member here, as far
>as I know, is Danny. He's 16 years old.
>
>I'm also a fan of Donald/Scrooge, etc. since 1978 when my father
>bought some Donald Duck Weeklies for me. But I couldn't read by then,
>so I didn't understand very much of the stories.
>SNIP<
No, no, no! You're BOTH wrong. I am the youngest member on this mailing
list and I can remember my father bringing me home WDC&S and DD issues
published by Dell (I still have them) including Scrooge's first appearance.
My first subscription to Uncle Scrooge was in 1952 when I was 9 and had a
high enough allowance to afford some of the real pleasures of life.
- Neal Kinney
>AUGIE:
>
>> Nope, you aren't the youngest. So far as I know, I hold that
>> distinction at 19 years of age, though I've been an ardent
>> $crooge fan since I can remember.
>
>No, you're *also* not the youngest. The youngest member here, as far
>as I know, is Danny. He's 16 years old.
>
>I'm also a fan of Donald/Scrooge, etc. since 1978 when my father
>bought some Donald Duck Weeklies for me. But I couldn't read by then,
>so I didn't understand very much of the stories.
>SNIP<
No, no, no! You're BOTH wrong. I am the youngest member on this mailing
list and I can remember my father bringing me home WDC&S and DD issues
published by Dell (I still have them) including Scrooge's first appearance.
My first subscription to Uncle Scrooge was in 1952 when I was 9 and had a
high enough allowance to afford some of the real pleasures of life.
- Neal Kinney
KERSTIN S.DERBAUM
Banned ducks?
Message 231 -
1995-05-31 at 20:02:41
--- Inkommet fr}n VD.POL2 031-667632 95-05-31 19:02
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
> DANIEL (van E.)
The cartoon you mention is called "Donald's Dilemma" (1947). I
Don't think it is banned at all. Why would it? The scene you talk
about is about a half second long, and just show how Daisy reacts
when she thinks she lost Donald forever. And you don't notice the
scene as a scene which actually would have been cut off. It is a
very quick part of a story that's all. But though, the word
*suicide* is not translated in the text of the swedish version.
Can you please send me a copy of this comic-magasine including
"Voodoo Hoodoo"? The one you talk about, I mean. My adress:
Jakob Soderbaum
S:t Olofsgatan 40
S-417 28 Goteborg
Sweden
I would be really greatfull if you could do that favour for me.
And I still think that Erik Pettersson and myself ar the youngest
subscribers to this list.
--
Jakob Soderbaum
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
> DANIEL (van E.)
The cartoon you mention is called "Donald's Dilemma" (1947). I
Don't think it is banned at all. Why would it? The scene you talk
about is about a half second long, and just show how Daisy reacts
when she thinks she lost Donald forever. And you don't notice the
scene as a scene which actually would have been cut off. It is a
very quick part of a story that's all. But though, the word
*suicide* is not translated in the text of the swedish version.
Can you please send me a copy of this comic-magasine including
"Voodoo Hoodoo"? The one you talk about, I mean. My adress:
Jakob Soderbaum
S:t Olofsgatan 40
S-417 28 Goteborg
Sweden
I would be really greatfull if you could do that favour for me.
And I still think that Erik Pettersson and myself ar the youngest
subscribers to this list.
--
Jakob Soderbaum
KERSTIN S.DERBAUM
Banned ducks?
Message 232 -
1995-05-31 at 20:37:13
--- Inkommet fr}n VD.POL2 031-667632 95-05-31 19:36
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
--- Inkommet fr}n VD.POL2 JAKOB S\DERBAUM 95-05-31 19:02
> DANIEL (van E.)
The cartoon you mention is called "Donald's Dilemma" (1947). I
Don't think it is banned at all. Why would it? The scene you talk
about is about a half second long, and just show how Daisy reacts
when she thinks she lost Donald forever. And you don't notice the
scene as a scene which actually would have been cut off. It is a
very quick part of a story that's all. But though, the word
*suicide* is not translated in the text of the swedish version.
Can you please send me a copy of this comic-magasine including
"Voodoo Hoodoo"? The one you talk about, I mean. My adress:
Jakob Soderbaum
S:t Olofsgatan 40
S-417 28 Goteborg
Sweden
I would be really greatfull if you could do that favour for me.
And I still think that Erik Pettersson and myself ar the youngest
subscribers to this list.
--
Jakob Soderbaum
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
--- Inkommet fr}n VD.POL2 JAKOB S\DERBAUM 95-05-31 19:02
> DANIEL (van E.)
The cartoon you mention is called "Donald's Dilemma" (1947). I
Don't think it is banned at all. Why would it? The scene you talk
about is about a half second long, and just show how Daisy reacts
when she thinks she lost Donald forever. And you don't notice the
scene as a scene which actually would have been cut off. It is a
very quick part of a story that's all. But though, the word
*suicide* is not translated in the text of the swedish version.
Can you please send me a copy of this comic-magasine including
"Voodoo Hoodoo"? The one you talk about, I mean. My adress:
Jakob Soderbaum
S:t Olofsgatan 40
S-417 28 Goteborg
Sweden
I would be really greatfull if you could do that favour for me.
And I still think that Erik Pettersson and myself ar the youngest
subscribers to this list.
--
Jakob Soderbaum
BJ.RN PETTERSSON
Hello everbody
Message 233 -
1995-05-31 at 21:35:57
--- Received from VD.POL1 031-669152 95-05-31 20:35
-> IN=disney-comics(a)minsk.docs.uu.se
Hello!
I am also new here! And Jakob, I hope you are happy now...?
Well, I guess Jakob is right about that I am the youngest here?
(I am 14) Or is it someone that is younger than me?
Anyway, I have a question about Donald Duck:
Does anyone know who Donald's father is?
/Erik (is hoping and waiting for an answer...)
-> IN=disney-comics(a)minsk.docs.uu.se
Hello!
I am also new here! And Jakob, I hope you are happy now...?
Well, I guess Jakob is right about that I am the youngest here?
(I am 14) Or is it someone that is younger than me?
Anyway, I have a question about Donald Duck:
Does anyone know who Donald's father is?
/Erik (is hoping and waiting for an answer...)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Voodoo Hoodoo
Message 234 -
1995-05-31 at 23:29:27
Hi Jakob!
> The cartoon you mention is called "Donald's Dilemma" (1947). I
> don't think it is banned at all. Why would it? The scene you talk
> about is about a half second long, and just show how Daisy reacts
> when she thinks she lost Donald forever. (...) It is a very quick
> part of a story that's all.
Of course, but I still think it would be *long enough* for Disney,
but maybe they didn't notice it. Maybe they don't care at all.
> Can you please send me a copy of this comic-magasine including
> "Voodoo Hoodoo"? The one you talk about, I mean.
Of course I can. But like I said, I *don't* have the original one. I
only have:
1. The censored CBL-version
2. The Dutch version with the original art (but with panels sometimes
misplaced in itself or changed balloons).
But I'm sure the Dutch version won't bother you, it's only *me* being
so critical about those minor changes <Groan!>. Let's say the Dutch
version has 99% of the original art. Do you want to have it? Just let
me know.
BTW. Doesn't Sweden has it's own copy of "Voodoo Hoodoo"?
--- Daniel
> The cartoon you mention is called "Donald's Dilemma" (1947). I
> don't think it is banned at all. Why would it? The scene you talk
> about is about a half second long, and just show how Daisy reacts
> when she thinks she lost Donald forever. (...) It is a very quick
> part of a story that's all.
Of course, but I still think it would be *long enough* for Disney,
but maybe they didn't notice it. Maybe they don't care at all.
> Can you please send me a copy of this comic-magasine including
> "Voodoo Hoodoo"? The one you talk about, I mean.
Of course I can. But like I said, I *don't* have the original one. I
only have:
1. The censored CBL-version
2. The Dutch version with the original art (but with panels sometimes
misplaced in itself or changed balloons).
But I'm sure the Dutch version won't bother you, it's only *me* being
so critical about those minor changes <Groan!>. Let's say the Dutch
version has 99% of the original art. Do you want to have it? Just let
me know.
BTW. Doesn't Sweden has it's own copy of "Voodoo Hoodoo"?
--- Daniel