> >>SAMPO!!!
> >>"I got yer Sampo right here!" - Crow T. Robot, _Mystery Science Theater
> >>3000,_ Comedy Central cable network.
> >
> > Yes, Sampo. Is there something particularily hilarious in it? Is
> >there a joke here I'm supposed to understand?
>
> Mystery Science Theater 3000 (abbreviated to MST3K) is a cable
> televison programme here in the US dedicated to bad movies; basically, a
> man and two robots heckle them. One of the movies in question was called,
> in English, "The Day the Earth Froze" which tells a story about some witch
> trying to capture the Sampo.
>
This may actually tie in. I dimly remember seeing "The Day the Earth
Froze" and reading somewhere that it's a movie-version of the Finnish
poetic national epic.
--Dwight Decker
Author
Topic: 199505
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Deckerd
Disney-comics digest #657.
Message 61 -
1995-05-10 at 19:51:31
DucksEtc.
Censorship & Disney
Message 62 -
1995-05-11 at 08:35:24
DAVID G.:
You asked if Disney had ever censored any of the stories I've done with Van
Horn. To give you the short answer: No!
As to the long answer: I don't want to get wrapped up in technicalities, but
I don't think we're really talking about "censorship" here as much as
editorial decisions and policies. It is a subtle, but important destinction,
I'll grant you.
I was a newspaper reporter and columnist for several years and the sort of
editorial interference you're talking about happens all the time in the real
world. Editors and publishers are supposed to make decisions about what does
and doesn't belong in print. Of course, sometimes they make absolutely
boneheaded decisions. A publishing company has the right to print or not
print whatever it wants. That isn't censorship. It's just reality. Whoever's
paying the bills gets to make the decisions.
Trues censorship occurs when an outside agency--such as a
government--prevents you from writing or publishing something.
I'm sorry for the lecture, but to me it's an important difference.
(Of course, I suppose you could make a good case that Disney is an "outside
agency" when it comes to Gladstone and Egmont comic book stories since it
doesn't really produce any of the material itself.)
Anyway, neither Bill Van Horn nor I have had any real problems with editorial
interference of the type you seem to be talking about--at least not in regard
to any of our stories published by Egmont or Gladstone (during it's first
run.) It's worth noting that in both cases our editor has been Byron
Erickson.
I have, however, run into some very bizarre editorial policies when I've
worked on Disney characters in other circumstances. When I wrote for Disney
Comics I was mainly working for Bob Foster on the ducks and things went quite
smoothly. (I can think of only one very minor instance in which Bob and I
disagreed about what was appropriate behavior for the ducks.)
I did run into some problems, however, when I worked on several Mickey Mouse
project--all of which ended up being shelved for a variety of reasons. Disney
is very protective of the mouse and the type of stories he appears in. For
example, I was going to do a Mickey graphic novel which had a sub-theme about
pollution. So I wanted to show Pete smoking a cigar (as he often does in the
cartoons.) A little personal air pollution by the villain seemed appropriate.
I made the mistake of asking an editor whether this was OK. There was this
long pause on the phone as the editor conferred with someone higher up on the
chain of command. He finally came back on the phone and said that Pete could
have a cigar in his mouth, but they weren't sure if it could be lit.
That never made sense to me, but it was fairly indicative of the level of
concern Disney had about Mickey Mouse stories.
When Disney handed the license back to Gladstone, someone at Disney
apparently decided to keep fairly close tabs on what was being published. As
far as I can tell all of Gladstone's newly commisioned stories have to get
the greenlight from Disney first. (Disney probably had to approve all the
stories that Gladstone printed during it's first run, but the level of
scrutiny and the amount of interference seem to be more intense now.) As I
related a few weeks ago here, I did submit some short Mickey Mouse pieces to
Gladstone, but they were all rejected by Disney--all basically on the grounds
that I wasn't depicting the characters properly. Eventually they were sold to
Egmont. It'll be interesting to see if they ever get reprinted by Gladstone
and if so if there are any changes.
The stories that are printed first by Egmont and then reprinted by Gladstone
don't seem to be receiving the same level of scrutiny by Disney. Of course, I
can't speak for everyone. I do know that Van Horn hasn't had any problems.
Neither have I--but then only one of my Egmont stories has been reprinted so
far.
Actually, I've got to qualify that a bit. David, you noted that one of the
signs in "Stampede and Deliver" was changed when it was reprinted by
Gladstone. Actually two signs were changed. Worked into those signs were the
last names of two people from the Carl Barks Studio. As you probably know,
the Barks Studio and Gladstone are not on the best of terms right now. I
suspect that the signs were changed because of this.
I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond to your initial questions, David.
Unfortunately, I have fairly little free time for correspondence . I know it
sounds odd for a writer, but I'm really more of a "chat on the phone" sort of
person than a letter writer.
Anyway, I'm going to go into lurker mode for a couple of weeks or so while I
try to get caught up on work. Hope that doesn't seem rude, but I'm extremely
pressed for time right now. Actually, I'm always extremely pressed for
time--only more so right now.
Anyway, take care everybody. I'll try to check back in soon.
Best Wishes,
John Lustig
You asked if Disney had ever censored any of the stories I've done with Van
Horn. To give you the short answer: No!
As to the long answer: I don't want to get wrapped up in technicalities, but
I don't think we're really talking about "censorship" here as much as
editorial decisions and policies. It is a subtle, but important destinction,
I'll grant you.
I was a newspaper reporter and columnist for several years and the sort of
editorial interference you're talking about happens all the time in the real
world. Editors and publishers are supposed to make decisions about what does
and doesn't belong in print. Of course, sometimes they make absolutely
boneheaded decisions. A publishing company has the right to print or not
print whatever it wants. That isn't censorship. It's just reality. Whoever's
paying the bills gets to make the decisions.
Trues censorship occurs when an outside agency--such as a
government--prevents you from writing or publishing something.
I'm sorry for the lecture, but to me it's an important difference.
(Of course, I suppose you could make a good case that Disney is an "outside
agency" when it comes to Gladstone and Egmont comic book stories since it
doesn't really produce any of the material itself.)
Anyway, neither Bill Van Horn nor I have had any real problems with editorial
interference of the type you seem to be talking about--at least not in regard
to any of our stories published by Egmont or Gladstone (during it's first
run.) It's worth noting that in both cases our editor has been Byron
Erickson.
I have, however, run into some very bizarre editorial policies when I've
worked on Disney characters in other circumstances. When I wrote for Disney
Comics I was mainly working for Bob Foster on the ducks and things went quite
smoothly. (I can think of only one very minor instance in which Bob and I
disagreed about what was appropriate behavior for the ducks.)
I did run into some problems, however, when I worked on several Mickey Mouse
project--all of which ended up being shelved for a variety of reasons. Disney
is very protective of the mouse and the type of stories he appears in. For
example, I was going to do a Mickey graphic novel which had a sub-theme about
pollution. So I wanted to show Pete smoking a cigar (as he often does in the
cartoons.) A little personal air pollution by the villain seemed appropriate.
I made the mistake of asking an editor whether this was OK. There was this
long pause on the phone as the editor conferred with someone higher up on the
chain of command. He finally came back on the phone and said that Pete could
have a cigar in his mouth, but they weren't sure if it could be lit.
That never made sense to me, but it was fairly indicative of the level of
concern Disney had about Mickey Mouse stories.
When Disney handed the license back to Gladstone, someone at Disney
apparently decided to keep fairly close tabs on what was being published. As
far as I can tell all of Gladstone's newly commisioned stories have to get
the greenlight from Disney first. (Disney probably had to approve all the
stories that Gladstone printed during it's first run, but the level of
scrutiny and the amount of interference seem to be more intense now.) As I
related a few weeks ago here, I did submit some short Mickey Mouse pieces to
Gladstone, but they were all rejected by Disney--all basically on the grounds
that I wasn't depicting the characters properly. Eventually they were sold to
Egmont. It'll be interesting to see if they ever get reprinted by Gladstone
and if so if there are any changes.
The stories that are printed first by Egmont and then reprinted by Gladstone
don't seem to be receiving the same level of scrutiny by Disney. Of course, I
can't speak for everyone. I do know that Van Horn hasn't had any problems.
Neither have I--but then only one of my Egmont stories has been reprinted so
far.
Actually, I've got to qualify that a bit. David, you noted that one of the
signs in "Stampede and Deliver" was changed when it was reprinted by
Gladstone. Actually two signs were changed. Worked into those signs were the
last names of two people from the Carl Barks Studio. As you probably know,
the Barks Studio and Gladstone are not on the best of terms right now. I
suspect that the signs were changed because of this.
I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond to your initial questions, David.
Unfortunately, I have fairly little free time for correspondence . I know it
sounds odd for a writer, but I'm really more of a "chat on the phone" sort of
person than a letter writer.
Anyway, I'm going to go into lurker mode for a couple of weeks or so while I
try to get caught up on work. Hope that doesn't seem rude, but I'm extremely
pressed for time right now. Actually, I'm always extremely pressed for
time--only more so right now.
Anyway, take care everybody. I'll try to check back in soon.
Best Wishes,
John Lustig
Peter Coenen
Disney-Digest 658
Message 63 -
1995-05-11 at 09:35:29
DON:
I`m sorry, but I haven`t read chapter 9 of the Lo$ yet, and I didn`t
expect $crooge to have many banks and industries already when he came
to Fort Duckburgh. After I read what you`ve written, I do now totally
agree with you. It`s clear that Barks didn`t thought of $crooge as the
world`s richest duck when he introduced him in Christmas on Bear Mountain,
but as I am a Donaldist I see Bark`s stories to be in a chronological
order, and so I try to find reasons why $crooge`s money bin hasn`t been
mentioned before 1952. But it`s also clear that it is impossible that
$crooge already had a bin in the 1880s, as he would be something like 90
or 100 years old when he talked about it existing for over 70 years
in the story you mentioned. BTW, in that story from 1952 Donald could
have called the bin to be a NEW one, because that giant safe in his
banking house was already called money bin, but I think you can
discuss about those things for a lifetime, so let`s stop here.
If it should be true that there will be a DuckTales film basing
on your Lo$ it would be great, but don`t they have to inform you
before considering such projects?
And one more thing: IT`S DANNY, NOT PETER!!!
Danny Coenen
"You should`t have poured it on so thick, Louie! Something tells me
we`d have have been better off washing the dishes!"
I`m sorry, but I haven`t read chapter 9 of the Lo$ yet, and I didn`t
expect $crooge to have many banks and industries already when he came
to Fort Duckburgh. After I read what you`ve written, I do now totally
agree with you. It`s clear that Barks didn`t thought of $crooge as the
world`s richest duck when he introduced him in Christmas on Bear Mountain,
but as I am a Donaldist I see Bark`s stories to be in a chronological
order, and so I try to find reasons why $crooge`s money bin hasn`t been
mentioned before 1952. But it`s also clear that it is impossible that
$crooge already had a bin in the 1880s, as he would be something like 90
or 100 years old when he talked about it existing for over 70 years
in the story you mentioned. BTW, in that story from 1952 Donald could
have called the bin to be a NEW one, because that giant safe in his
banking house was already called money bin, but I think you can
discuss about those things for a lifetime, so let`s stop here.
If it should be true that there will be a DuckTales film basing
on your Lo$ it would be great, but don`t they have to inform you
before considering such projects?
And one more thing: IT`S DANNY, NOT PETER!!!
Danny Coenen
"You should`t have poured it on so thick, Louie! Something tells me
we`d have have been better off washing the dishes!"
9475609
Ducktales vs. LO$
Message 64 -
1995-05-11 at 11:21:56
DON:
"To get involved in what DUCKTALES would want to do to the "Lo$" would
only make me crazy."
Actually, they *already* did a version of the LO$ back in 1988, calling
it "Once Upon a Dime". Aside from the shoe-shining and riverboat race
bits, it didn't take anything from old stories, which IMHO made it a
tremendous disappointment.
It would seem that if Disney TV wanted to tackle this type of project
again (for them, the second time at trying it!), they might be
surprisingly willing to adapt your version relatively straightforwardly.
But maybe not...
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
"To get involved in what DUCKTALES would want to do to the "Lo$" would
only make me crazy."
Actually, they *already* did a version of the LO$ back in 1988, calling
it "Once Upon a Dime". Aside from the shoe-shining and riverboat race
bits, it didn't take anything from old stories, which IMHO made it a
tremendous disappointment.
It would seem that if Disney TV wanted to tackle this type of project
again (for them, the second time at trying it!), they might be
surprisingly willing to adapt your version relatively straightforwardly.
But maybe not...
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Mark Semich
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DON:
OK, I've been debating for a while now whether to write this
posting. I don't want to disrupt the spirit of this list with possibly
controversial material, but there has been something bothering me about
the Lo$ series that I couldn't quite put my finger on until I read Chapter
8. I guess that things have now gotten to the point where it's bothering
me so much that I feel I must mention it.
Initially, as an aside, I'd like to say that I've been a big fan
of your work since I first read "Last Sled to Dawson", one of the best
comic book stories ever done. (It's long overdue for Gladstone to reprint
this one - perhaps they could use it along with any other "young Scrooge"
stories you may do as part of the forthcoming Lo$ compilation.) I also
must say that Lo$ is the best comic book story being published, and is a
truly wonderful piece of work.
This is mostly about my impressions of Bark's Scrooge vs. the
Scrooge that we see in Lo$. I've come to the conclusion that these
seemingly two similar characters are in fact two very different
characters. The facts and details of both Barks' stories and yours may
show me wrong on this, and perhaps there was no other approach you could
take that would fit with all of the Barksian minutiae, but, as I said,
this is about my *impressions* of the character:
I've always seen Barks presenting Scrooge as a duck who has made
his riches by working as hard as he could ever since he was very young,
and by scrimping and saving every penny that he ever earned, slowly
building his fortune, slowly becoming rich, slowly turning himself into
the miser that we see on Bear Mountain.
Yet in Lo$, rather than that more realistic (and possibly
admirable) approach, Scrooge is a man who *does* work hard his entire
life, but is basically poor in *spite* of all that hard work - at the
begining of Ch. 8 he has not saved anything at all, he's still living hand
to mouth. In addition, he goes from being poor to being rich in an
instant. Sure, this makes for a more dramatic moment, as if all of his
hard work "finally paid off," rather than *continuously* and *slowly*
paying off. I feel that this presentation is antithetical to Barks' "hard
work and savings" Scrooge and basically eliminates the most important
aspect of Scrooge McDuck.
I also thought that the vengeful "Dark Knight McDuck" presentation
of Scrooge when he hears of his Mother's death was a bit much for a Disney
book, and like others overseas, I thought this approach should have been
reserved for image/Marvel-like books. You had mentioned that those with
this criticism were mis-interpeting that bit in your story, but it reads
to me like they were right.
Again, most sincere apologies for these criticisms, but I've long
been a Scrooge McDuck fan, so I had to say them.
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DON:
OK, I've been debating for a while now whether to write this
posting. I don't want to disrupt the spirit of this list with possibly
controversial material, but there has been something bothering me about
the Lo$ series that I couldn't quite put my finger on until I read Chapter
8. I guess that things have now gotten to the point where it's bothering
me so much that I feel I must mention it.
Initially, as an aside, I'd like to say that I've been a big fan
of your work since I first read "Last Sled to Dawson", one of the best
comic book stories ever done. (It's long overdue for Gladstone to reprint
this one - perhaps they could use it along with any other "young Scrooge"
stories you may do as part of the forthcoming Lo$ compilation.) I also
must say that Lo$ is the best comic book story being published, and is a
truly wonderful piece of work.
This is mostly about my impressions of Bark's Scrooge vs. the
Scrooge that we see in Lo$. I've come to the conclusion that these
seemingly two similar characters are in fact two very different
characters. The facts and details of both Barks' stories and yours may
show me wrong on this, and perhaps there was no other approach you could
take that would fit with all of the Barksian minutiae, but, as I said,
this is about my *impressions* of the character:
I've always seen Barks presenting Scrooge as a duck who has made
his riches by working as hard as he could ever since he was very young,
and by scrimping and saving every penny that he ever earned, slowly
building his fortune, slowly becoming rich, slowly turning himself into
the miser that we see on Bear Mountain.
Yet in Lo$, rather than that more realistic (and possibly
admirable) approach, Scrooge is a man who *does* work hard his entire
life, but is basically poor in *spite* of all that hard work - at the
begining of Ch. 8 he has not saved anything at all, he's still living hand
to mouth. In addition, he goes from being poor to being rich in an
instant. Sure, this makes for a more dramatic moment, as if all of his
hard work "finally paid off," rather than *continuously* and *slowly*
paying off. I feel that this presentation is antithetical to Barks' "hard
work and savings" Scrooge and basically eliminates the most important
aspect of Scrooge McDuck.
I also thought that the vengeful "Dark Knight McDuck" presentation
of Scrooge when he hears of his Mother's death was a bit much for a Disney
book, and like others overseas, I thought this approach should have been
reserved for image/Marvel-like books. You had mentioned that those with
this criticism were mis-interpeting that bit in your story, but it reads
to me like they were right.
Again, most sincere apologies for these criticisms, but I've long
been a Scrooge McDuck fan, so I had to say them.
Mark Semich
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Sorry about re-sending that bounced email message - I meant to send
it to disney-comics-request in order to let our friendly list manager
know about an invalid address on the list. Unfortunately, I accidently
forgot the "request" portion and inadvertently sent it out to everyone
Apologies.
it to disney-comics-request in order to let our friendly list manager
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Apologies.
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #659.
Message 67 -
1995-05-11 at 22:41:00
>Sinterklaas is short for "Sint Nicolaas", the bishop of Myra (Turkey) who
>was good for children. The American Santa Claus is a combination of the Dutch
>Sinterklaas and the English (and other country's) "Father Christmas".
>As far as I know, the whole north pole and reindeer thing is an American
>invention. Sinterklaas has a white horse, and a servant called Zwarte Piet
>("Black Pete").
I say not! The tale of Santa Claus comes from somewhere around Western
Europe (though Father Christmas is probably a better term for him here) at the
time when America was hardly the all-mighty Union with capital U which it is
today. And hmm, I dear say all Finns think FC lives in Finland. In my English
book there was also a story about an English school class coming to Finland
to see Father Christmas, but I don't know if I can count on the educational
value of a school book! Anyway, if here's someone who knows what e.g. English
believe of Santa, please tell that.
And hmm, "The Day the Earth Froze" is a bad movie of agen Finnish
mythology?-o I'd like to see that film someday, anybody remember some facts
about it (director etc.)?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
>was good for children. The American Santa Claus is a combination of the Dutch
>Sinterklaas and the English (and other country's) "Father Christmas".
>As far as I know, the whole north pole and reindeer thing is an American
>invention. Sinterklaas has a white horse, and a servant called Zwarte Piet
>("Black Pete").
I say not! The tale of Santa Claus comes from somewhere around Western
Europe (though Father Christmas is probably a better term for him here) at the
time when America was hardly the all-mighty Union with capital U which it is
today. And hmm, I dear say all Finns think FC lives in Finland. In my English
book there was also a story about an English school class coming to Finland
to see Father Christmas, but I don't know if I can count on the educational
value of a school book! Anyway, if here's someone who knows what e.g. English
believe of Santa, please tell that.
And hmm, "The Day the Earth Froze" is a bad movie of agen Finnish
mythology?-o I'd like to see that film someday, anybody remember some facts
about it (director etc.)?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Alberto Delgado
No subject
Message 68 -
1995-05-12 at 01:08:07
Please unsuscribe me
Michael Ryan Collins
No subject
Message 69 -
1995-05-12 at 01:27:13
Please unsuscribe me
Ronald A. Evry
Disney-comics digest #659.
Message 70 -
1995-05-12 at 05:58:56
> But even if it was, I'd have no reason to call Disney, nor they me.
> Disney has the right to do whatever they wish with any of my stories without
> permission or royalties... and I doubt that they'd have any interest in me
> being involved.
The screenwriter's Guild may have something to say about that.
If Disney wants to put ANYTHING based on a story you wrote,
even on a "for hire" basis, and it gets transmitted through any
network that has an agreement with the screenwriter's guild,
then they HAVE to pay you and acknowledge your contribution.
I do believe that Disney is indeed one of the studios that is a
party to the general agreement with the Guild.
One medium is NOT the same as another, and while Disney can
bully comic book artists, teleplays are a different matter
entirely.
If Lo$ does indeed get made into a movie or tv production, you
have rights, and the Guild is there to represent you, even if
you have never worked with them before.
--Ron
> Disney has the right to do whatever they wish with any of my stories without
> permission or royalties... and I doubt that they'd have any interest in me
> being involved.
The screenwriter's Guild may have something to say about that.
If Disney wants to put ANYTHING based on a story you wrote,
even on a "for hire" basis, and it gets transmitted through any
network that has an agreement with the screenwriter's guild,
then they HAVE to pay you and acknowledge your contribution.
I do believe that Disney is indeed one of the studios that is a
party to the general agreement with the Guild.
One medium is NOT the same as another, and while Disney can
bully comic book artists, teleplays are a different matter
entirely.
If Lo$ does indeed get made into a movie or tv production, you
have rights, and the Guild is there to represent you, even if
you have never worked with them before.
--Ron
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #660.
Message 71 -
1995-05-12 at 16:27:00
>DANNY -- NOT PETER -- DANNY!:
Why would you think Disney would need to contact me before they
adapted one of my stories into an animated film? Or a live-action film? Or
reprinted it in a deluxe edition? Or based a section in DisneyWorld on it?
They are legally free from giving me credit or payment for what they do with
the work I (we) do for Egmont. That's how their system is set up.
Why would you think Disney would need to contact me before they
adapted one of my stories into an animated film? Or a live-action film? Or
reprinted it in a deluxe edition? Or based a section in DisneyWorld on it?
They are legally free from giving me credit or payment for what they do with
the work I (we) do for Egmont. That's how their system is set up.
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #661.
Message 72 -
1995-05-13 at 08:35:00
>RON:
Well, I am a member of the Screenwriters' Guild, as a mattafack.
But you're still wrong unless the contract that Disney required all
their freelancers to sign is meaningless. Actually, I was already pretty
sure that it was a void contract since it was not an agreement that gave
concessions to both parties -- it was simply a waiver by one party of all
rights whatsoever to the work he had done alone. But one tiny bit of the
many clauses was that Disney owns the rights to the material "for use in all
media existing now or in the future, throughout the universe". (Actual
quote) Actually, I'm pretty sure they've scrapped that contract by now! They
have made a LITTLE progress.
But then again, I refused to sign that contract without a rider that
said it would soon be adjusted, and we later voided it even if it was legal.
But if Disney DID decide to take my stories and make a TV series or
movie out of them, what could I do??? I can't sue Disney! I wouldn't even
dare ask the Guild to sue Disney. I like my job with Egmont and would want
to keep it.
All my behind the scenes fighting is for the right of freelance
artists to have their artwork returned to them and with no strings attached,
just as it is with all other freelancers. That job is hard enough to do and
to have to do completely alone. You can sue Disney for me over some "Lo$"
feature-length movie.
Well, I am a member of the Screenwriters' Guild, as a mattafack.
But you're still wrong unless the contract that Disney required all
their freelancers to sign is meaningless. Actually, I was already pretty
sure that it was a void contract since it was not an agreement that gave
concessions to both parties -- it was simply a waiver by one party of all
rights whatsoever to the work he had done alone. But one tiny bit of the
many clauses was that Disney owns the rights to the material "for use in all
media existing now or in the future, throughout the universe". (Actual
quote) Actually, I'm pretty sure they've scrapped that contract by now! They
have made a LITTLE progress.
But then again, I refused to sign that contract without a rider that
said it would soon be adjusted, and we later voided it even if it was legal.
But if Disney DID decide to take my stories and make a TV series or
movie out of them, what could I do??? I can't sue Disney! I wouldn't even
dare ask the Guild to sue Disney. I like my job with Egmont and would want
to keep it.
All my behind the scenes fighting is for the right of freelance
artists to have their artwork returned to them and with no strings attached,
just as it is with all other freelancers. That job is hard enough to do and
to have to do completely alone. You can sue Disney for me over some "Lo$"
feature-length movie.
Ronald A. Evry
Disney-comics digest #662.
Message 73 -
1995-05-14 at 03:19:35
Well, Don, I appreciate your bind. Suing Disney would cut you
off from doing work for them for sure.
What you may want to do is wait for them to make a feature film
of your work, and then, when there are MILLIONS of $$ at stake,
go ahead and sue. Get Buchwald's lawyer.
Until then, keep working on getting artwork back to artists and
bringing Disney at least up to the twentieth century.
--Ron
off from doing work for them for sure.
What you may want to do is wait for them to make a feature film
of your work, and then, when there are MILLIONS of $$ at stake,
go ahead and sue. Get Buchwald's lawyer.
Until then, keep working on getting artwork back to artists and
bringing Disney at least up to the twentieth century.
--Ron
MR MICHAEL A RUBINSTEIN
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Message 74 -
1995-05-15 at 00:05:55
I would enjoy to be on your mailing list. can you please send me
some information, thank you
some information, thank you
Mike Pohjola
Don in Germany
Message 75 -
1995-05-15 at 20:31:23
So has there been any new info about when is Don Rosa going to
Europe again? I might be interested because I'm at Austria from June 12th
to July 2th and a chance to meet him in the flesh would be grrrreat!
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Europe again? I might be interested because I'm at Austria from June 12th
to July 2th and a chance to meet him in the flesh would be grrrreat!
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie