>MARK:
Gladstone is the one comic company in the world, as far as I know,
that there's no reason to worry about missing the issues...of. From? Anyway,
they are the only company that sells their own back issues. It might cost
you some "postage and handling", and you can't wait a year to order them (or
they'll overcharge you), but you can always buy a brand-new, unopened back
issue of a Gladstone comic.>
Author
Topic: 199505
(234 messages)
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #654.
Message 31 -
1995-05-06 at 08:41:00
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #653.
Message 32 -
1995-05-06 at 22:20:06
DON:
>in it. I haven't given it any thought yet, but as a stupid American I can't
>think of anything that would be obviously Finnish right off the bat. Any
>suggestions?
Hmm... Well, here's some small info about Finland: First of all,
Finland is located at Northern parts of Europe between Sweden and Russia just
next to Gulf of Finland (as you might understand from the name). Finland in
Finnish is 'Suomi' and Finnish in Finnish is 'suomi' (very imaginative, eh?)
Finnish people are usually known as silent grumpy people who drink a lot. Even
minors. (maybe you won't use that in your story anyways..) Umm, most Europeans
know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at Northern Finland in a place called
Korvatunturi (Mt. Ear or something in English) and spit on the idea of North
Pole. I do at least. All Finnish people speak English because it is taught
in schools since third grade. Finnish winter is long and cold and most of the
other seasons are wet, dark, dirty, discusting fall or noughtumn as it was in
my English book. There is a sommer too when Finnish people go to their summer
cottages and at Midsummer festival make big fires at the coast line. According
to old Finnish superstition, that's supposed to keep bad spirits away. Some
90% of Finnish people like ice hockey and other sports (I don't but I'm a
little wierd) and gather before tvs yelling every time somebody moves. Finnish
main religion is evancelic lutherism (sp?), Finland has been independent since
1917 and I live here. President of Finland is very over-weighted Martti
Ahtisaari and 1955 I think it was Juho Kusti Paasikivi. Most common Finnish
name is Matti Virtanen. Some special animals that only live in Finland are
seal of Saimaa and reindeer (Lapland in general). Finnish people is still
weakly classified on some kind of tribe system (as you might say yourself as
American Italian) and some useful are the mystical Sames, barbarious Ostro-
bothnians, slow h{m{l{iset (don't know the word for that in English) and
the all-mighty Satakuntans (you might guess I'm from the previously mentioned).
The National Epic of Finland is Kalevala where the chief and the sage of
Kalevalans, V{in{m|inen battles against monsters, Sames and does other things.
The book should also be available in English but it's all just a tale and
written about as wierdly as the Windigo story of yours. Aku Ankka (Donald Duck)
magazine was first out in Finland 1951 and since that it has been continuously
coming so that if your story takes place at 1955, Donald Duck should be known
to at least some matter (if the comic book exits in tour universe as it did in
Marco Rota's). A good idea for an adventure might actually be, now when I think
about it, in the Kalevala. See, in there Joukahainen, the demigod-smith makes
the Sampo, a money-machine, which creates money or gold or something just like
that from thin air. $crooge might be after that. And in the cover of your book
you could put for example Donald Duck sight-seeing in Finland (I'll need time
to think of something less corny :)
Is your hardback going to be out before you arrive here?
"Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" is finally coming to Egmont?! 8-)
Can you give me some rough amount of time when I should be waiting for it?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
>in it. I haven't given it any thought yet, but as a stupid American I can't
>think of anything that would be obviously Finnish right off the bat. Any
>suggestions?
Hmm... Well, here's some small info about Finland: First of all,
Finland is located at Northern parts of Europe between Sweden and Russia just
next to Gulf of Finland (as you might understand from the name). Finland in
Finnish is 'Suomi' and Finnish in Finnish is 'suomi' (very imaginative, eh?)
Finnish people are usually known as silent grumpy people who drink a lot. Even
minors. (maybe you won't use that in your story anyways..) Umm, most Europeans
know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at Northern Finland in a place called
Korvatunturi (Mt. Ear or something in English) and spit on the idea of North
Pole. I do at least. All Finnish people speak English because it is taught
in schools since third grade. Finnish winter is long and cold and most of the
other seasons are wet, dark, dirty, discusting fall or noughtumn as it was in
my English book. There is a sommer too when Finnish people go to their summer
cottages and at Midsummer festival make big fires at the coast line. According
to old Finnish superstition, that's supposed to keep bad spirits away. Some
90% of Finnish people like ice hockey and other sports (I don't but I'm a
little wierd) and gather before tvs yelling every time somebody moves. Finnish
main religion is evancelic lutherism (sp?), Finland has been independent since
1917 and I live here. President of Finland is very over-weighted Martti
Ahtisaari and 1955 I think it was Juho Kusti Paasikivi. Most common Finnish
name is Matti Virtanen. Some special animals that only live in Finland are
seal of Saimaa and reindeer (Lapland in general). Finnish people is still
weakly classified on some kind of tribe system (as you might say yourself as
American Italian) and some useful are the mystical Sames, barbarious Ostro-
bothnians, slow h{m{l{iset (don't know the word for that in English) and
the all-mighty Satakuntans (you might guess I'm from the previously mentioned).
The National Epic of Finland is Kalevala where the chief and the sage of
Kalevalans, V{in{m|inen battles against monsters, Sames and does other things.
The book should also be available in English but it's all just a tale and
written about as wierdly as the Windigo story of yours. Aku Ankka (Donald Duck)
magazine was first out in Finland 1951 and since that it has been continuously
coming so that if your story takes place at 1955, Donald Duck should be known
to at least some matter (if the comic book exits in tour universe as it did in
Marco Rota's). A good idea for an adventure might actually be, now when I think
about it, in the Kalevala. See, in there Joukahainen, the demigod-smith makes
the Sampo, a money-machine, which creates money or gold or something just like
that from thin air. $crooge might be after that. And in the cover of your book
you could put for example Donald Duck sight-seeing in Finland (I'll need time
to think of something less corny :)
Is your hardback going to be out before you arrive here?
"Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" is finally coming to Egmont?! 8-)
Can you give me some rough amount of time when I should be waiting for it?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Disney-comics digest #653.
Message 33 -
1995-05-06 at 22:35:11
MIKE:
> Umm, most Europeans know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at
> Northern Finland in a place called Korvatunturi
He does not. And his name is Julenissen!
Jorgen
> Umm, most Europeans know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at
> Northern Finland in a place called Korvatunturi
He does not. And his name is Julenissen!
Jorgen
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #655.
Message 34 -
1995-05-07 at 16:18:00
MIKE AGAIN:
Oh, and "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"... I think that you'll
see it in the next month or so. I never know these things -- they don't tell
me when they send out my stories for publication. They sit on them for a
year at least, and the story you mention has been sat on for over 4 years.
Deep buttocks prints in it. All I can go by is when some of the more
diligent translators in certain countries contact me for explanations and
other help in trying to make their versions as accurate to my original
intent and to any old Barks tale that I've made reference to. And I know
they were working on that story about a month ago. So it should be popping
up anytime.
And are you implying that it's showing up LATE in Finland? No, it
hasn't appeared anywhere yet, and when you see it in Finland you'll be
seeing it first (along with the other Egmont countries that same week).
Oh, and "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"... I think that you'll
see it in the next month or so. I never know these things -- they don't tell
me when they send out my stories for publication. They sit on them for a
year at least, and the story you mention has been sat on for over 4 years.
Deep buttocks prints in it. All I can go by is when some of the more
diligent translators in certain countries contact me for explanations and
other help in trying to make their versions as accurate to my original
intent and to any old Barks tale that I've made reference to. And I know
they were working on that story about a month ago. So it should be popping
up anytime.
And are you implying that it's showing up LATE in Finland? No, it
hasn't appeared anywhere yet, and when you see it in Finland you'll be
seeing it first (along with the other Egmont countries that same week).
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #655.
Message 35 -
1995-05-07 at 16:18:00
MIKE:
Thanks for all those Finnish ideas. When I actually start doing that
cover, I'll need to rely on the editors or someone like you to help me
choose a Finnish theme. I can't do it alone since this cover is supposed to
seem "Finnish" to someone in Finland, not to ME. Even though I know easy
stuff like where Finland is (that's more than 80% of Americans know about
any country, including America), and I know they have reindeer and seals, I
still don't know all the stuff that would seem most authentically "Finnish"
to someone who lives there IN the culture and society. F'rinstance, the
Finnish legends and folktales which may be known to every person in Finland,
but which we in America (or perhaps even Sweden) have never had reason or
opportunity to have heard of.
Two things you may not understand -- one is that the contents of
that hardback book has already been picked from
y older stories. There will
be a combination of old 10-page-gag stories and long adventures. But there
will be NO new special story set in Finland. Only the COVER will be Finnish.
Secondly, you must have missed my announcement on here -- I found
that I WILL NOT be coming to Finland in November as I first thought I might.
Perhaps some other time, but no plans right now.
Thanks for all those Finnish ideas. When I actually start doing that
cover, I'll need to rely on the editors or someone like you to help me
choose a Finnish theme. I can't do it alone since this cover is supposed to
seem "Finnish" to someone in Finland, not to ME. Even though I know easy
stuff like where Finland is (that's more than 80% of Americans know about
any country, including America), and I know they have reindeer and seals, I
still don't know all the stuff that would seem most authentically "Finnish"
to someone who lives there IN the culture and society. F'rinstance, the
Finnish legends and folktales which may be known to every person in Finland,
but which we in America (or perhaps even Sweden) have never had reason or
opportunity to have heard of.
Two things you may not understand -- one is that the contents of
that hardback book has already been picked from
y older stories. There will
be a combination of old 10-page-gag stories and long adventures. But there
will be NO new special story set in Finland. Only the COVER will be Finnish.
Secondly, you must have missed my announcement on here -- I found
that I WILL NOT be coming to Finland in November as I first thought I might.
Perhaps some other time, but no plans right now.
KERSTIN S.DERBAUM
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1995-05-07 at 17:00:18
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From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #654.
>MARK:
Gladstone is the one comic company in the world, as far as I know,
that there's no reason to worry about missing the issues...of. From? Anyway,
they are the only company that sells their own back issues. It might cost
you some "postage and handling", and you can't wait a year to order them (or
they'll overcharge you), but you can always buy a brand-new, unopened back
issue of a Gladstone comic.>
======================================================================
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 22:20:06 +0300
From: mikep at freenet.hut.fi (Mike Pohjola)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #653.
DON:
>in it. I haven't given it any thought yet, but as a stupid American I can't
>think of anything that would be obviously Finnish right off the bat. Any
>suggestions?
Hmm... Well, here's some small info about Finland: First of all,
Finland is located at Northern parts of Europe between Sweden and Russia just
next to Gulf of Finland (as you might understand from the name). Finland in
Finnish is 'Suomi' and Finnish in Finnish is 'suomi' (very imaginative, eh?)
Finnish people are usually known as silent grumpy people who drink a lot. Even
minors. (maybe you won't use that in your story anyways..) Umm, most Europeans
know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at Northern Finland in a place called
Korvatunturi (Mt. Ear or something in English) and spit on the idea of North
Pole. I do at least. All Finnish people speak English because it is taught
in schools since third grade. Finnish winter is long and cold and most of the
other seasons are wet, dark, dirty, discusting fall or noughtumn as it was in
my English book. There is a sommer too when Finnish people go to their summer
cottages and at Midsummer festival make big fires at the coast line. According
to old Finnish superstition, that's supposed to keep bad spirits away. Some
90% of Finnish people like ice hockey and other sports (I don't but I'm a
little wierd) and gather before tvs yelling every time somebody moves. Finnish
main religion is evancelic lutherism (sp?), Finland has been independent since
1917 and I live here. President of Finland is very over-weighted Martti
Ahtisaari and 1955 I think it was Juho Kusti Paasikivi. Most common Finnish
name is Matti Virtanen. Some special animals that only live in Finland are
seal of Saimaa and reindeer (Lapland in general). Finnish people is still
weakly classified on some kind of tribe system (as you might say yourself as
American Italian) and some useful are the mystical Sames, barbarious Ostro-
bothnians, slow h{m{l{iset (don't know the word for that in English) and
the all-mighty Satakuntans (you might guess I'm from the previously mentioned).
The National Epic of Finland is Kalevala where the chief and the sage of
Kalevalans, V{in{m|inen battles against monsters, Sames and does other things.
The book should also be available in English but it's all just a tale and
written about as wierdly as the Windigo story of yours. Aku Ankka (Donald Duck)
magazine was first out in Finland 1951 and since that it has been continuously
coming so that if your story takes place at 1955, Donald Duck should be known
to at least some matter (if the comic book exits in tour universe as it did in
Marco Rota's). A good idea for an adventure might actually be, now when I think
about it, in the Kalevala. See, in there Joukahainen, the demigod-smith makes
the Sampo, a money-machine, which creates money or gold or something just like
that from thin air. $crooge might be after that. And in the cover of your book
you could put for example Donald Duck sight-seeing in Finland (I'll need time
to think of something less corny :)
Is your hardback going to be out before you arrive here?
"Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" is finally coming to Egmont?! 8-)
Can you give me some rough amount of time when I should be waiting for it?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
======================================================================
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 21:35:11 +0200
From: Jørgen Andreas Bangor <jorgenb at ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #653.
MIKE:
> Umm, most Europeans know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at
> Northern Finland in a place called Korvatunturi
He does not. And his name is Julenissen!
Jorgen
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From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #654.
>MARK:
Gladstone is the one comic company in the world, as far as I know,
that there's no reason to worry about missing the issues...of. From? Anyway,
they are the only company that sells their own back issues. It might cost
you some "postage and handling", and you can't wait a year to order them (or
they'll overcharge you), but you can always buy a brand-new, unopened back
issue of a Gladstone comic.>
======================================================================
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 22:20:06 +0300
From: mikep at freenet.hut.fi (Mike Pohjola)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #653.
DON:
>in it. I haven't given it any thought yet, but as a stupid American I can't
>think of anything that would be obviously Finnish right off the bat. Any
>suggestions?
Hmm... Well, here's some small info about Finland: First of all,
Finland is located at Northern parts of Europe between Sweden and Russia just
next to Gulf of Finland (as you might understand from the name). Finland in
Finnish is 'Suomi' and Finnish in Finnish is 'suomi' (very imaginative, eh?)
Finnish people are usually known as silent grumpy people who drink a lot. Even
minors. (maybe you won't use that in your story anyways..) Umm, most Europeans
know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at Northern Finland in a place called
Korvatunturi (Mt. Ear or something in English) and spit on the idea of North
Pole. I do at least. All Finnish people speak English because it is taught
in schools since third grade. Finnish winter is long and cold and most of the
other seasons are wet, dark, dirty, discusting fall or noughtumn as it was in
my English book. There is a sommer too when Finnish people go to their summer
cottages and at Midsummer festival make big fires at the coast line. According
to old Finnish superstition, that's supposed to keep bad spirits away. Some
90% of Finnish people like ice hockey and other sports (I don't but I'm a
little wierd) and gather before tvs yelling every time somebody moves. Finnish
main religion is evancelic lutherism (sp?), Finland has been independent since
1917 and I live here. President of Finland is very over-weighted Martti
Ahtisaari and 1955 I think it was Juho Kusti Paasikivi. Most common Finnish
name is Matti Virtanen. Some special animals that only live in Finland are
seal of Saimaa and reindeer (Lapland in general). Finnish people is still
weakly classified on some kind of tribe system (as you might say yourself as
American Italian) and some useful are the mystical Sames, barbarious Ostro-
bothnians, slow h{m{l{iset (don't know the word for that in English) and
the all-mighty Satakuntans (you might guess I'm from the previously mentioned).
The National Epic of Finland is Kalevala where the chief and the sage of
Kalevalans, V{in{m|inen battles against monsters, Sames and does other things.
The book should also be available in English but it's all just a tale and
written about as wierdly as the Windigo story of yours. Aku Ankka (Donald Duck)
magazine was first out in Finland 1951 and since that it has been continuously
coming so that if your story takes place at 1955, Donald Duck should be known
to at least some matter (if the comic book exits in tour universe as it did in
Marco Rota's). A good idea for an adventure might actually be, now when I think
about it, in the Kalevala. See, in there Joukahainen, the demigod-smith makes
the Sampo, a money-machine, which creates money or gold or something just like
that from thin air. $crooge might be after that. And in the cover of your book
you could put for example Donald Duck sight-seeing in Finland (I'll need time
to think of something less corny :)
Is your hardback going to be out before you arrive here?
"Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" is finally coming to Egmont?! 8-)
Can you give me some rough amount of time when I should be waiting for it?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
======================================================================
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 21:35:11 +0200
From: Jørgen Andreas Bangor <jorgenb at ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #653.
MIKE:
> Umm, most Europeans know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at
> Northern Finland in a place called Korvatunturi
He does not. And his name is Julenissen!
Jorgen
======================================================================
(End of digest.)
Peter Coenen
Lo$ Chapter 10
Message 37 -
1995-05-08 at 09:30:01
DON:
Today I read the 10th chapter of Lo$ in the Micky Maus Magazin.
Like the other stories of yours, it is great, but I think you
made one mistake, and thats a rather big one:
The money bin. When you have a look at Bark`s stories, you see
that $crooge first had a big banking house in the city of Duck-
burgh. Although there was also a kind of a money bin inside, it
was just a bank where $crooge was the banker. In the old stories
you often see him sitting in his money-filled office. I think that
this was why he came to Duckburgh: to become a banker. As he was
very successfull, he LATER had to build the Money bin on that hill
near the town, because there was no more space for the money in
the bank. During the years he acquired so many enterprises,
mines, factories and so on that he retired from his job to
become the same that Michael Eisner is today in the Walt Disney
Company: A kind of a chairman, who overviews all sub-ordered firms.
Thats the reason why you don`t get to see the banking house in the
later stories and only see $crooge on expeditions to find another
way for earning more money or defending his money against criminals.
I don`t know if this theory is totally right, but yours is not very
realistic. Before he built the bin he had eight casks of money- and
when it was complete- he still had eight ones. What do you think
such a giant building costs? And he had no real profession at the
end of the story- so how can he become richer without one? But
that`s really the only mistake I found the art and the gags to be
great, for example the scene when Donalds parents fall in love or
the repaired money cask in the money bin. I can`t wait to read the
9th and the last two chapters!!!!!
Danny Coenen
"You shouldn`t have poured it on so thick, Louie! Something tells
me we`d have been better off washing the dishes!"
Today I read the 10th chapter of Lo$ in the Micky Maus Magazin.
Like the other stories of yours, it is great, but I think you
made one mistake, and thats a rather big one:
The money bin. When you have a look at Bark`s stories, you see
that $crooge first had a big banking house in the city of Duck-
burgh. Although there was also a kind of a money bin inside, it
was just a bank where $crooge was the banker. In the old stories
you often see him sitting in his money-filled office. I think that
this was why he came to Duckburgh: to become a banker. As he was
very successfull, he LATER had to build the Money bin on that hill
near the town, because there was no more space for the money in
the bank. During the years he acquired so many enterprises,
mines, factories and so on that he retired from his job to
become the same that Michael Eisner is today in the Walt Disney
Company: A kind of a chairman, who overviews all sub-ordered firms.
Thats the reason why you don`t get to see the banking house in the
later stories and only see $crooge on expeditions to find another
way for earning more money or defending his money against criminals.
I don`t know if this theory is totally right, but yours is not very
realistic. Before he built the bin he had eight casks of money- and
when it was complete- he still had eight ones. What do you think
such a giant building costs? And he had no real profession at the
end of the story- so how can he become richer without one? But
that`s really the only mistake I found the art and the gags to be
great, for example the scene when Donalds parents fall in love or
the repaired money cask in the money bin. I can`t wait to read the
9th and the last two chapters!!!!!
Danny Coenen
"You shouldn`t have poured it on so thick, Louie! Something tells
me we`d have been better off washing the dishes!"
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #656.
Message 38 -
1995-05-08 at 14:56:56
Funny.. Yesterday's mail here again :)
DON:
> Thanks for all those Finnish ideas. When I actually start doing that
>cover, I'll need to rely on the editors or someone like you to help me
>choose a Finnish theme. I can't do it alone since this cover is supposed to
>seem "Finnish" to someone in Finland, not to ME. Even though I know easy
>stuff like where Finland is (that's more than 80% of Americans know about
>any country, including America), and I know they have reindeer and seals, I
>still don't know all the stuff that would seem most authentically "Finnish"
>to someone who lives there IN the culture and society. F'rinstance, the
>Finnish legends and folktales which may be known to every person in Finland,
>but which we in America (or perhaps even Sweden) have never had reason or
>opportunity to have heard of.
Did I also mention sauna, the Finnish word for Finnish invention? I
think they're getting popular in the other world by now, but not everywhere do
people whack each others with birch branches.. Anyway, I'd be happy to help you
think (or even make a pencil sketch) of a good Finland cover. Could it just be
Don (as in Donald Duck) in Finland with maybe all the four seasons in the same
picture.
Yes, I did understand the hardback will not have a Finland story, but
I thought you said something about "story set in Finland". I thought that
meant you were going to make a story where the Ducks adventure in Finland. Was
I wrong? Even if I was, the idea wouldn't be that bad. There are quite a lot
of many stories located in Arabian peninsula and around, but very few actually
taking place in Europe (the lemming story and Lillehammer gag are the only ones
I really can remember).
So you're not coming to Finland soon, eh? Well, the main reason for
me asking this was because I wanted to make sure I could get your autograph
on the book. That would've been hard if you had left the country already when
the book came out. About the book again, are the first Lo$ stories going to
be in it?
JORGEN:
>> Umm, most Europeans know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at
>> Northern Finland in a place called Korvatunturi
>He does not. And his name is Julenissen!
Check your files, man! Joulupukki damn right lives in Finland! And if
not, then what is your idea?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
DON:
> Thanks for all those Finnish ideas. When I actually start doing that
>cover, I'll need to rely on the editors or someone like you to help me
>choose a Finnish theme. I can't do it alone since this cover is supposed to
>seem "Finnish" to someone in Finland, not to ME. Even though I know easy
>stuff like where Finland is (that's more than 80% of Americans know about
>any country, including America), and I know they have reindeer and seals, I
>still don't know all the stuff that would seem most authentically "Finnish"
>to someone who lives there IN the culture and society. F'rinstance, the
>Finnish legends and folktales which may be known to every person in Finland,
>but which we in America (or perhaps even Sweden) have never had reason or
>opportunity to have heard of.
Did I also mention sauna, the Finnish word for Finnish invention? I
think they're getting popular in the other world by now, but not everywhere do
people whack each others with birch branches.. Anyway, I'd be happy to help you
think (or even make a pencil sketch) of a good Finland cover. Could it just be
Don (as in Donald Duck) in Finland with maybe all the four seasons in the same
picture.
Yes, I did understand the hardback will not have a Finland story, but
I thought you said something about "story set in Finland". I thought that
meant you were going to make a story where the Ducks adventure in Finland. Was
I wrong? Even if I was, the idea wouldn't be that bad. There are quite a lot
of many stories located in Arabian peninsula and around, but very few actually
taking place in Europe (the lemming story and Lillehammer gag are the only ones
I really can remember).
So you're not coming to Finland soon, eh? Well, the main reason for
me asking this was because I wanted to make sure I could get your autograph
on the book. That would've been hard if you had left the country already when
the book came out. About the book again, are the first Lo$ stories going to
be in it?
JORGEN:
>> Umm, most Europeans know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at
>> Northern Finland in a place called Korvatunturi
>He does not. And his name is Julenissen!
Check your files, man! Joulupukki damn right lives in Finland! And if
not, then what is your idea?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Disney-comics digest #656.
Message 39 -
1995-05-08 at 15:17:58
MIKE:
| Joulupukki damn right lives in Finland! And if
| not, then what is your idea?
That's just some Finnish idea. Some people do everything for money,
even declaring that some more or less mythical character lives a
certain place he, to my knowledge, has nothing to do with.
Jorgen
| Joulupukki damn right lives in Finland! And if
| not, then what is your idea?
That's just some Finnish idea. Some people do everything for money,
even declaring that some more or less mythical character lives a
certain place he, to my knowledge, has nothing to do with.
Jorgen
Rick Engle
Horsing Around With History
Message 40 -
1995-05-08 at 16:38:30
What I thought was strange about the story line was why, if the Beagle
Boys had wired Scrooge's button for sound, why didn't they simply
record his "whinny", wait til Scrooge, Donald, and HDL were on their
quest, then play back the Whinny and gain access to the bin and loot to
their hearts desire!
Rick
Boys had wired Scrooge's button for sound, why didn't they simply
record his "whinny", wait til Scrooge, Donald, and HDL were on their
quest, then play back the Whinny and gain access to the bin and loot to
their hearts desire!
Rick
KERSTIN S.DERBAUM
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From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #655.
MIKE:
Thanks for all those Finnish ideas. When I actually start doing that
cover, I'll need to rely on the editors or someone like you to help me
choose a Finnish theme. I can't do it alone since this cover is supposed to
seem "Finnish" to someone in Finland, not to ME. Even though I know easy
stuff like where Finland is (that's more than 80% of Americans know about
any country, including America), and I know they have reindeer and seals, I
still don't know all the stuff that would seem most authentically "Finnish"
to someone who lives there IN the culture and society. F'rinstance, the
Finnish legends and folktales which may be known to every person in Finland,
but which we in America (or perhaps even Sweden) have never had reason or
opportunity to have heard of.
Two things you may not understand -- one is that the contents of
that hardback book has already been picked from my older stories. There will
be a combination of old 10-page-gag stories and long adventures. But there
will be NO new special story set in Finland. Only the COVER will be Finnish.
Secondly, you must have missed my announcement on here -- I found
that I WILL NOT be coming to Finland in November as I first thought I might.
Perhaps some other time, but no plans right now.
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Date: Sat, 6 May 95 01:41 EDT
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #654.
>MARK:
Gladstone is the one comic company in the world, as far as I know,
that there's no reason to worry about missing the issues...of. From? Anyway,
they are the only company that sells their own back issues. It might cost
you some "postage and handling", and you can't wait a year to order them (or
they'll overcharge you), but you can always buy a brand-new, unopened back
issue of a Gladstone comic.>
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Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 22:20:06 +0300
From: mikep at freenet.hut.fi (Mike Pohjola)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #653.
DON:
>in it. I haven't given it any thought yet, but as a stupid American I can't
>think of anything that would be obviously Finnish right off the bat. Any
>suggestions?
Hmm... Well, here's some small info about Finland: First of all,
Finland is located at Northern parts of Europe between Sweden and Russia just
next to Gulf of Finland (as you might understand from the name). Finland in
Finnish is 'Suomi' and Finnish in Finnish is 'suomi' (very imaginative, eh?)
Finnish people are usually known as silent grumpy people who drink a lot. Even
minors. (maybe you won't use that in your story anyways..) Umm, most Europeans
know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at Northern Finland in a place called
Korvatunturi (Mt. Ear or something in English) and spit on the idea of North
Pole. I do at least. All Finnish people speak English because it is taught
in schools since third grade. Finnish winter is long and cold and most of the
other seasons are wet, dark, dirty, discusting fall or noughtumn as it was in
my English book. There is a sommer too when Finnish people go to their summer
cottages and at Midsummer festival make big fires at the coast line. According
to old Finnish superstition, that's supposed to keep bad spirits away. Some
90% of Finnish people like ice hockey and other sports (I don't but I'm a
little wierd) and gather before tvs yelling every time somebody moves. Finnish
main religion is evancelic lutherism (sp?), Finland has been independent since
1917 and I live here. President of Finland is very over-weighted Martti
Ahtisaari and 1955 I think it was Juho Kusti Paasikivi. Most common Finnish
name is Matti Virtanen. Some special animals that only live in Finland are
seal of Saimaa and reindeer (Lapland in general). Finnish people is still
weakly classified on some kind of tribe system (as you might say yourself as
American Italian) and some useful are the mystical Sames, barbarious Ostro-
bothnians, slow h{m{l{iset (don't know the word for that in English) and
the all-mighty Satakuntans (you might guess I'm from the previously mentioned).
The National Epic of Finland is Kalevala where the chief and the sage of
Kalevalans, V{in{m|inen battles against monsters, Sames and does other things.
The book should also be available in English but it's all just a tale and
written about as wierdly as the Windigo story of yours. Aku Ankka (Donald Duck)
magazine was first out in Finland 1951 and since that it has been continuously
coming so that if your story takes place at 1955, Donald Duck should be known
to at least some matter (if the comic book exits in tour universe as it did in
Marco Rota's). A good idea for an adventure might actually be, now when I think
about it, in the Kalevala. See, in there Joukahainen, the demigod-smith makes
the Sampo, a money-machine, which creates money or gold or something just like
that from thin air. $crooge might be after that. And in the cover of your book
you could put for example Donald Duck sight-seeing in Finland (I'll need time
to think of something less corny :)
Is your hardback going to be out before you arrive here?
"Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" is finally coming to Egmont?! 8-)
Can you give me some rough amount of time when I should be waiting for it?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
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Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 21:35:11 +0200
From: Jørgen Andreas Bangor <jorgenb at ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #653.
MIKE:
> Umm, most Europeans know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at
> Northern Finland in a place called Korvatunturi
He does not. And his name is Julenissen!
Jorgen
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From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #655.
MIKE:
Thanks for all those Finnish ideas. When I actually start doing that
cover, I'll need to rely on the editors or someone like you to help me
choose a Finnish theme. I can't do it alone since this cover is supposed to
seem "Finnish" to someone in Finland, not to ME. Even though I know easy
stuff like where Finland is (that's more than 80% of Americans know about
any country, including America), and I know they have reindeer and seals, I
still don't know all the stuff that would seem most authentically "Finnish"
to someone who lives there IN the culture and society. F'rinstance, the
Finnish legends and folktales which may be known to every person in Finland,
but which we in America (or perhaps even Sweden) have never had reason or
opportunity to have heard of.
Two things you may not understand -- one is that the contents of
that hardback book has already been picked from my older stories. There will
be a combination of old 10-page-gag stories and long adventures. But there
will be NO new special story set in Finland. Only the COVER will be Finnish.
Secondly, you must have missed my announcement on here -- I found
that I WILL NOT be coming to Finland in November as I first thought I might.
Perhaps some other time, but no plans right now.
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Date: Sat, 6 May 95 01:41 EDT
From: donrosa at iglou.com (Don Rosa)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #654.
>MARK:
Gladstone is the one comic company in the world, as far as I know,
that there's no reason to worry about missing the issues...of. From? Anyway,
they are the only company that sells their own back issues. It might cost
you some "postage and handling", and you can't wait a year to order them (or
they'll overcharge you), but you can always buy a brand-new, unopened back
issue of a Gladstone comic.>
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Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 22:20:06 +0300
From: mikep at freenet.hut.fi (Mike Pohjola)
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #653.
DON:
>in it. I haven't given it any thought yet, but as a stupid American I can't
>think of anything that would be obviously Finnish right off the bat. Any
>suggestions?
Hmm... Well, here's some small info about Finland: First of all,
Finland is located at Northern parts of Europe between Sweden and Russia just
next to Gulf of Finland (as you might understand from the name). Finland in
Finnish is 'Suomi' and Finnish in Finnish is 'suomi' (very imaginative, eh?)
Finnish people are usually known as silent grumpy people who drink a lot. Even
minors. (maybe you won't use that in your story anyways..) Umm, most Europeans
know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at Northern Finland in a place called
Korvatunturi (Mt. Ear or something in English) and spit on the idea of North
Pole. I do at least. All Finnish people speak English because it is taught
in schools since third grade. Finnish winter is long and cold and most of the
other seasons are wet, dark, dirty, discusting fall or noughtumn as it was in
my English book. There is a sommer too when Finnish people go to their summer
cottages and at Midsummer festival make big fires at the coast line. According
to old Finnish superstition, that's supposed to keep bad spirits away. Some
90% of Finnish people like ice hockey and other sports (I don't but I'm a
little wierd) and gather before tvs yelling every time somebody moves. Finnish
main religion is evancelic lutherism (sp?), Finland has been independent since
1917 and I live here. President of Finland is very over-weighted Martti
Ahtisaari and 1955 I think it was Juho Kusti Paasikivi. Most common Finnish
name is Matti Virtanen. Some special animals that only live in Finland are
seal of Saimaa and reindeer (Lapland in general). Finnish people is still
weakly classified on some kind of tribe system (as you might say yourself as
American Italian) and some useful are the mystical Sames, barbarious Ostro-
bothnians, slow h{m{l{iset (don't know the word for that in English) and
the all-mighty Satakuntans (you might guess I'm from the previously mentioned).
The National Epic of Finland is Kalevala where the chief and the sage of
Kalevalans, V{in{m|inen battles against monsters, Sames and does other things.
The book should also be available in English but it's all just a tale and
written about as wierdly as the Windigo story of yours. Aku Ankka (Donald Duck)
magazine was first out in Finland 1951 and since that it has been continuously
coming so that if your story takes place at 1955, Donald Duck should be known
to at least some matter (if the comic book exits in tour universe as it did in
Marco Rota's). A good idea for an adventure might actually be, now when I think
about it, in the Kalevala. See, in there Joukahainen, the demigod-smith makes
the Sampo, a money-machine, which creates money or gold or something just like
that from thin air. $crooge might be after that. And in the cover of your book
you could put for example Donald Duck sight-seeing in Finland (I'll need time
to think of something less corny :)
Is your hardback going to be out before you arrive here?
"Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" is finally coming to Egmont?! 8-)
Can you give me some rough amount of time when I should be waiting for it?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
======================================================================
Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 21:35:11 +0200
From: Jørgen Andreas Bangor <jorgenb at ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Disney-comics digest #653.
MIKE:
> Umm, most Europeans know that Santa Claus live in Lapland at
> Northern Finland in a place called Korvatunturi
He does not. And his name is Julenissen!
Jorgen
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Frank M. DiCapua
Horsing Around With History
Message 42 -
1995-05-08 at 18:27:29
I guess that I'll add my two cents worth about
Horsing Around with History:
While most of the tale contains classic Barks themes
and storytelling elements, it comes up flat. Lacking are the
complex intricacies and indepth characterizations of the
earlier Barks' works. Moreover, the story never really builds
to a climax. The tale would have been much more interesting
if the Beagle Boys actually accomplished their goal of
taking over the Money Bin and Scrooge had to win it back.
Pairing vanHorn with Barks doesn't work for me
either. I've never really cared too much for vanHorn's
cartoony style, but I've tried to keep an open mind: His
work has been getting better, and there certainly is room
for all styles in comic book storytelling.
When I read a Duck story, I expect a classic
style of artwork that is more 'fine arts' like. The
Junior Woodchuck Stories that Barks wrote (but did not illustrate)
have this more subdued 'classic' look. This is why I have always
enjoyed those stories, and considered them part of the true
Ducks 'universe'. I can think of a few artists who might have
done a better job, but...
Overall, I guess that I was a little disappointed. The
story just seemed a little too simple, and the artwork too goofy.
I'd like too see more original Barks stories, but I don't want
them to detract from the stories of old.
Frank
Horsing Around with History:
While most of the tale contains classic Barks themes
and storytelling elements, it comes up flat. Lacking are the
complex intricacies and indepth characterizations of the
earlier Barks' works. Moreover, the story never really builds
to a climax. The tale would have been much more interesting
if the Beagle Boys actually accomplished their goal of
taking over the Money Bin and Scrooge had to win it back.
Pairing vanHorn with Barks doesn't work for me
either. I've never really cared too much for vanHorn's
cartoony style, but I've tried to keep an open mind: His
work has been getting better, and there certainly is room
for all styles in comic book storytelling.
When I read a Duck story, I expect a classic
style of artwork that is more 'fine arts' like. The
Junior Woodchuck Stories that Barks wrote (but did not illustrate)
have this more subdued 'classic' look. This is why I have always
enjoyed those stories, and considered them part of the true
Ducks 'universe'. I can think of a few artists who might have
done a better job, but...
Overall, I guess that I was a little disappointed. The
story just seemed a little too simple, and the artwork too goofy.
I'd like too see more original Barks stories, but I don't want
them to detract from the stories of old.
Frank
ADEBLIEC
Disney-comics digest #656.
Message 43 -
1995-05-08 at 18:59:18
A few unrelated things:
I just finished reading through the past week or two's worth of digests.
It's a lot of fun saving them up for one big reading. =)
Re: Duck Daze
Methinks it would be best if Uncle $crooge weren't included in it at all.
After hearing what their plas are for HDL, I'm not sure I'm ready for an
Uncle $crooge who would probably walk with a cane, watch Matlock, and
complain about his Social security check. Updated for the '90s? Feh.
Re: Rangers List
I, too, am a member of the list, and found it to be a very friendly place,
even if there is too much praise for some of the shows. (I haven't taken
too kindly to any of the recent Disney Afternoon shows, besides Gargoyles.)
The things I've heard here are, shall we say, not very encouraging. But,
to tell you the truth, I'm not keeping up with the list these days. I'm
waiting for Gargoyles to come back, and then I'll start posting like a mad
man again. Sorry for the digression to an old topic...
Re: Only a Poor Old Man
It doesn't get much better than this. This ranks right up there now with
my favorite Carl Barks $crooge stories. The art is crisp and clean, with
lots of money bin scenes, $crooge jumping through his money (my favorite
bit), and that terrific panel of the money blowing through the dam. Great
stuff. So great, I had added a quote about it to my .sig for a while.
(Which reminds me - the automated .sig will be the wrong one for this
message. Whoops. Sorry about that.)
DAVID: Agreed on WVH completely. (Well, I can't be too sure of your
comparisons to Barks' mid-1940s works as I'm not THAT much of a scholar -
yet.) But you are absolutely right when you say the charm of WVH's
stories revolves around the clever language and captions. It's like using
comic books for a pocket thesaurus. Fun stuff.
DON: Too bad Gladstone didn't see fit to print that lengthy letter about
you latest Lo$ story. I would have loved to see it, even if as a text
piece. I'm a nut for scholarly readings of comic books. (Have I been in
college too long? ;)
I had posted something in rec.arts.comics.misc about how I could vote for
Lo$ in nearly every category. I recently received an e-mail from
someone asking me about the series, since he enjoyed the DuckTales cartoon
so much and remembers reading the comics when he was younger. It's like
DuckTales and Lo$ are linked now, in possibly bringing someone back to
the comics. I hope he decided to jump on the bandwagon. =)
-Augie
-my last .sig included this quote:
"If you've got comfort, I'll take vanilla." -Donald to U$
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Drew University - FOX Entert. Grp., Box 900, Beverly Hills, CA 90213
- _and_ vr5 at delphi.com
I just finished reading through the past week or two's worth of digests.
It's a lot of fun saving them up for one big reading. =)
Re: Duck Daze
Methinks it would be best if Uncle $crooge weren't included in it at all.
After hearing what their plas are for HDL, I'm not sure I'm ready for an
Uncle $crooge who would probably walk with a cane, watch Matlock, and
complain about his Social security check. Updated for the '90s? Feh.
Re: Rangers List
I, too, am a member of the list, and found it to be a very friendly place,
even if there is too much praise for some of the shows. (I haven't taken
too kindly to any of the recent Disney Afternoon shows, besides Gargoyles.)
The things I've heard here are, shall we say, not very encouraging. But,
to tell you the truth, I'm not keeping up with the list these days. I'm
waiting for Gargoyles to come back, and then I'll start posting like a mad
man again. Sorry for the digression to an old topic...
Re: Only a Poor Old Man
It doesn't get much better than this. This ranks right up there now with
my favorite Carl Barks $crooge stories. The art is crisp and clean, with
lots of money bin scenes, $crooge jumping through his money (my favorite
bit), and that terrific panel of the money blowing through the dam. Great
stuff. So great, I had added a quote about it to my .sig for a while.
(Which reminds me - the automated .sig will be the wrong one for this
message. Whoops. Sorry about that.)
DAVID: Agreed on WVH completely. (Well, I can't be too sure of your
comparisons to Barks' mid-1940s works as I'm not THAT much of a scholar -
yet.) But you are absolutely right when you say the charm of WVH's
stories revolves around the clever language and captions. It's like using
comic books for a pocket thesaurus. Fun stuff.
DON: Too bad Gladstone didn't see fit to print that lengthy letter about
you latest Lo$ story. I would have loved to see it, even if as a text
piece. I'm a nut for scholarly readings of comic books. (Have I been in
college too long? ;)
I had posted something in rec.arts.comics.misc about how I could vote for
Lo$ in nearly every category. I recently received an e-mail from
someone asking me about the series, since he enjoyed the DuckTales cartoon
so much and remembers reading the comics when he was younger. It's like
DuckTales and Lo$ are linked now, in possibly bringing someone back to
the comics. I hope he decided to jump on the bandwagon. =)
-Augie
-my last .sig included this quote:
"If you've got comfort, I'll take vanilla." -Donald to U$
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. - Keep VR.5 Alive! Write: John Matoian, President,
Drew University - FOX Entert. Grp., Box 900, Beverly Hills, CA 90213
- _and_ vr5 at delphi.com
H.W. Fluks
To Mike, David G., and Dave R.
Message 44 -
1995-05-08 at 19:54:05
Mike, a few remarks and questions:
The REAL Santa Claus is of course Sinterklaas, who lives in Spain!
Aren't there a few people in Finland that speak Swedish? Is the Swedish
Kalle Anka available in Finland?
And are the Sames the same Sames from that Eurovision contest song
"Saamid Aetnan" (which was, I think, a Norwegian song) ?
----
David G:
This week in Dutch DD weekly: your story "Two in One". Colouring is
beautiful. They left out the text "I forgot that old soap trick", and the
money-sign is not on the bag in the last panel. For the rest, the translation
is OK.
You'll get a copy as soon as the Edinburgh mail strike is over!
----
Dave R:
David G. reminded me that there WAS a story written by you, and published by
Gladstone. I'd forgotten all about it, though it was discussed several times
here. Now I bought the issue (DDA 29, "Tour de Jour"), and your story
is GREAT!
--Harry.
The REAL Santa Claus is of course Sinterklaas, who lives in Spain!
Aren't there a few people in Finland that speak Swedish? Is the Swedish
Kalle Anka available in Finland?
And are the Sames the same Sames from that Eurovision contest song
"Saamid Aetnan" (which was, I think, a Norwegian song) ?
----
David G:
This week in Dutch DD weekly: your story "Two in One". Colouring is
beautiful. They left out the text "I forgot that old soap trick", and the
money-sign is not on the bag in the last panel. For the rest, the translation
is OK.
You'll get a copy as soon as the Edinburgh mail strike is over!
----
Dave R:
David G. reminded me that there WAS a story written by you, and published by
Gladstone. I'd forgotten all about it, though it was discussed several times
here. Now I bought the issue (DDA 29, "Tour de Jour"), and your story
is GREAT!
--Harry.
Wilmer Rivers
Horsing Around
Message 45 -
1995-05-08 at 21:13:11
I finally got around to buying the last several issues of Gladstones
this weekend, so I'm no longer the only person on this list who hadn't
read "Horsing around with History." I have only one comment to make
on Van Horn's artwork - I **really** don't like the shapes of the
ducklings' heads. They look like bubbles with tiny bills stuck on.
What's the point of shortening the bills - is it to make them look
more like human kids and less like ducks? As for the story, I agree
with the comments posted here that it seemed like a rambling set-up
for a single gag. One technical point, too: I don't think HD&L's
use of that star chart for navigation made any sense. They claimed
that if they were one degree south of their current position, then
the North Star and some unspecified bright star would be separated
by the proper angle. That's not right - the separation of the North
Star from any other star (its astronomical "declination") is the
same, no matter where you are on the earth. What would change if
you sailed south would be the elevation above the horizon of both
the North Star and the other star. But both elevations would change
by the same amount, so the separation of the two stars would remain
constant. This happens because the "fixed" stars are so far away
that their parallax can't be measured over so short a baseline as
the diameter of the earth.
Wilmer Rivers
P.S.: This reminds me that I had planned for almost 2 weeks now to
post a response to some comments about "The Universal Solvent."
Maybe I'll get around to it tomorrow! Hmmm.... I sound like
Gus Goose.
this weekend, so I'm no longer the only person on this list who hadn't
read "Horsing around with History." I have only one comment to make
on Van Horn's artwork - I **really** don't like the shapes of the
ducklings' heads. They look like bubbles with tiny bills stuck on.
What's the point of shortening the bills - is it to make them look
more like human kids and less like ducks? As for the story, I agree
with the comments posted here that it seemed like a rambling set-up
for a single gag. One technical point, too: I don't think HD&L's
use of that star chart for navigation made any sense. They claimed
that if they were one degree south of their current position, then
the North Star and some unspecified bright star would be separated
by the proper angle. That's not right - the separation of the North
Star from any other star (its astronomical "declination") is the
same, no matter where you are on the earth. What would change if
you sailed south would be the elevation above the horizon of both
the North Star and the other star. But both elevations would change
by the same amount, so the separation of the two stars would remain
constant. This happens because the "fixed" stars are so far away
that their parallax can't be measured over so short a baseline as
the diameter of the earth.
Wilmer Rivers
P.S.: This reminds me that I had planned for almost 2 weeks now to
post a response to some comments about "The Universal Solvent."
Maybe I'll get around to it tomorrow! Hmmm.... I sound like
Gus Goose.