> Did you ever find out whose version of the 3-page Daan Jippes
> escargot story John is going to use?
Sorry, but I don't know anything about Gladstone's plans. All I know is
that I've been paid and I'm as surprised as anybody when I see a story I
worked on in print.
> When John Clark does get around to publishing that "which-way"
> story, I hate to mention it but he's not going to be able to use that
> page in which MM and GO announce that "this is the first-ever Choose
> Your Own Adventure comic" (or some such).
I asked about that page when I got the story. I was asked to translate
it anyway just so they could see what was on it, but when they saw it
was just superfluous hype, they decided not to run it. Not only was
this the first "which way" comics story in the history of the Universe,
but the Disney Gang was working on even bigger surprises for future
issues of Topolino. That kind of stuff.
--Dwight Decker
(Just a poor lonesome translator, a long way from home)
Author
Topic: 199505
(234 messages)
Deckerd
Disney-comics digest #666.
Message 91 -
1995-05-19 at 01:33:40
Bart Van Den Broek
Unsub
Message 92 -
1995-05-19 at 11:26:56
unsub
Per Starback
666 and spelling.
Message 93 -
1995-05-19 at 13:39:57
David> Digest #666 was one of the strangest I'd ever seen, with a
David> message from Mike -- which had never appeared in a Digest before --
David> mysteriously "blended" with someone else's subscription request ...
Sorry about that, digest people! The message was a "lost message"
that I inserted by hand in the digest next to appear. I must have
done something wrong then, so the digest making script didn't realize
where the different messages started and ended. The second message
was just an ordinary subscription-request-sent-to-the-wrong-address.
> I still haven't seen NAFSKuriren (spelling?) ...
The strange spelling to use is "NAFS(k)uriren".
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
David> message from Mike -- which had never appeared in a Digest before --
David> mysteriously "blended" with someone else's subscription request ...
Sorry about that, digest people! The message was a "lost message"
that I inserted by hand in the digest next to appear. I must have
done something wrong then, so the digest making script didn't realize
where the different messages started and ended. The second message
was just an ordinary subscription-request-sent-to-the-wrong-address.
> I still haven't seen NAFSKuriren (spelling?) ...
The strange spelling to use is "NAFS(k)uriren".
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Mattias Hallin
Disney-comics digest #667.
Message 94 -
1995-05-19 at 17:58:57
DAVID:
Fear not -- yer not fergatten! Actually, Greger Nassen (the NAFS(k)
treasurerer/general handyman/guy who gets to do all the boring work) told me
via e-mail t'other day that he was gonna mail you your copies of NAFS(k)uriren
as of Wednesday May 17th. So, best case, your 'zines are in the mail!
BTW -- what American 'zine will you be placing the article with? Jes' curious,
is all!
Have a jolly week-end, y'all!
Mattias
**** Mattias Hallin ** Lund * Sweden ** <Mattias.Hallin at jurenh.lu.se> ****
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************** A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
Fear not -- yer not fergatten! Actually, Greger Nassen (the NAFS(k)
treasurerer/general handyman/guy who gets to do all the boring work) told me
via e-mail t'other day that he was gonna mail you your copies of NAFS(k)uriren
as of Wednesday May 17th. So, best case, your 'zines are in the mail!
BTW -- what American 'zine will you be placing the article with? Jes' curious,
is all!
Have a jolly week-end, y'all!
Mattias
**** Mattias Hallin ** Lund * Sweden ** <Mattias.Hallin at jurenh.lu.se> ****
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************** A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
Tallmo
666 and spelling.
Message 95 -
1995-05-19 at 19:40:19
>David> Digest #666 was one of the strangest I'd ever seen, with a
>David> message from Mike -- which had never appeared in a Digest before --
>David> mysteriously "blended" with someone else's subscription request ...
Well Per,
no wonder, 666 is the number of the beast in the Apocalypse, right?
Regards,
Karl-Erik Tallmo
Stockholm
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KARL-ERIK TALLMO, Swedish writer and contributor of articles to
Nordic dailies and magazines. DTP, Swedish grammar checking,
translation, HTML-tagging etc. through the firm NISUS PUBLISHING.
NISUS INFO: <http://www.xmission.com/~gastown/nisus>. Editor of
cultural Web magazine THE ART BIN: <http://www.algonet.se/artbin>
__________________________________________________________________
>David> message from Mike -- which had never appeared in a Digest before --
>David> mysteriously "blended" with someone else's subscription request ...
Well Per,
no wonder, 666 is the number of the beast in the Apocalypse, right?
Regards,
Karl-Erik Tallmo
Stockholm
-=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=-
KARL-ERIK TALLMO, Swedish writer and contributor of articles to
Nordic dailies and magazines. DTP, Swedish grammar checking,
translation, HTML-tagging etc. through the firm NISUS PUBLISHING.
NISUS INFO: <http://www.xmission.com/~gastown/nisus>. Editor of
cultural Web magazine THE ART BIN: <http://www.algonet.se/artbin>
__________________________________________________________________
DAVID.A.GERSTEIN
Of faux Ducks and Wolves
Message 96 -
1995-05-19 at 21:16:50
Today's trip down to the comic shop included a browse-through
of Marvel's own distribution catalog. Apparently their Disney
cutdown didn't affect the first month of their solo distribution,
because all the titles they've been publishing are listed there.
THE DISNEY AFTERNOON #10 contains a Ducktales/Scrooge story as
the lead-off. Magica enchants Scrooge so he falls in love with Mrs.
Beakley, and the only way for HDL to undo the dubious blessing is to
give Magica the dime (presumably). Personally, if one must make
DuckTales stories, I'd rather just see traditional-style Duck
adventures with Launchpad added to the crew, like Egmont usually
makes (and like Lustig and Van Horn once did so well, many moons
ago). But Marvel embraces the new, not the old... so I don't think
there's going to be much debt to Barks in this story.
A much better story along these lines was one Santanach (I
think) did for Egmont a few years ago: Magica had a spell which
would put Scrooge in love with HER -- then he'd give her the dime as
a gift, or so she thought until SHE got doused with the potion she'd
created.
TDA #10's Scrooge story was actually illustrated in the
catalog. IMHO, no matter how good the story itself might be, I can't
imagine the writer is going to be satisfied with this artist's work.
The art makes Giuseppe Perego look like Barks by comparison.
With a nod to Barks' old MGM-cartoon stories, I picked up WOLF
AND RED #1 from Dark Horse, as well. The stories are well-drawn, but
with huge panels and very cartoon-like action (they have the same
very simple feeling of Barks' earliest stories -- even more, because
these Wolf tales have very few words and even more slapstick
pratfalls).
It seems that some feel that funny animal comics must simulate
cartoons to the point of basically functioning as storyboards. I
think that the comic medium, as Disney comics have shown us, can
offer more than that.
Dark Horse would seem to hold the Barney Bear license now -- he
puts in a cameo in one panel of W&R #1. I have a hunch Dark Horse
wouldn't mind doing some collections of the Barks MGM stuff; if
nothing else, perhaps a color reprint of the second Happy Hound story
with its original text intact.
The new Dark Horse project looks like it's waiting to find its
potential, but it's not a poor comic, either. (10 pages of ads,
though. For this I paid the equivalent of $2.50?)
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
of Marvel's own distribution catalog. Apparently their Disney
cutdown didn't affect the first month of their solo distribution,
because all the titles they've been publishing are listed there.
THE DISNEY AFTERNOON #10 contains a Ducktales/Scrooge story as
the lead-off. Magica enchants Scrooge so he falls in love with Mrs.
Beakley, and the only way for HDL to undo the dubious blessing is to
give Magica the dime (presumably). Personally, if one must make
DuckTales stories, I'd rather just see traditional-style Duck
adventures with Launchpad added to the crew, like Egmont usually
makes (and like Lustig and Van Horn once did so well, many moons
ago). But Marvel embraces the new, not the old... so I don't think
there's going to be much debt to Barks in this story.
A much better story along these lines was one Santanach (I
think) did for Egmont a few years ago: Magica had a spell which
would put Scrooge in love with HER -- then he'd give her the dime as
a gift, or so she thought until SHE got doused with the potion she'd
created.
TDA #10's Scrooge story was actually illustrated in the
catalog. IMHO, no matter how good the story itself might be, I can't
imagine the writer is going to be satisfied with this artist's work.
The art makes Giuseppe Perego look like Barks by comparison.
With a nod to Barks' old MGM-cartoon stories, I picked up WOLF
AND RED #1 from Dark Horse, as well. The stories are well-drawn, but
with huge panels and very cartoon-like action (they have the same
very simple feeling of Barks' earliest stories -- even more, because
these Wolf tales have very few words and even more slapstick
pratfalls).
It seems that some feel that funny animal comics must simulate
cartoons to the point of basically functioning as storyboards. I
think that the comic medium, as Disney comics have shown us, can
offer more than that.
Dark Horse would seem to hold the Barney Bear license now -- he
puts in a cameo in one panel of W&R #1. I have a hunch Dark Horse
wouldn't mind doing some collections of the Barks MGM stuff; if
nothing else, perhaps a color reprint of the second Happy Hound story
with its original text intact.
The new Dark Horse project looks like it's waiting to find its
potential, but it's not a poor comic, either. (10 pages of ads,
though. For this I paid the equivalent of $2.50?)
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Egil Pettersen
No subject
Message 97 -
1995-05-20 at 16:32:37
Hi
This is my first letter to this group as I have just been connected
to Internet. I hope you guys out there don?t mind if I don?t know the
rules yet.
Mike asked if any of the translators actually asks Don Rosa when a
problem comes up. I wrote him and told what I do, but maybe the info
is also of interest to others. Here goes:
I have done work on the Norwegian translation of Don?s stories, f.i.
on the Family tree and on Life of $crooge. It takes a lot of time to
try to get the names as correct as possible. I first get the stuff
with Don?s text, and then my job is to try to figure out which of the
characters and places that has been used by Barks earlier. Then I
try to find the correct American magazine where they were printed
first, and where these names were first published in Norway. If in
doubt, Don was contacted. It would help a lot to have a list of the
sources Don has used on each story, and I understand that he tries to
send one with the new stories he makes. However, none of these lists
has ever reached me.
So there are lots of work done before the actual translation
starts.This is done to try to get the result as close to the original
Norwegian translation of Barks?s names as possible, and although it
takes time, we hope it?s worth it. At least we know that we do our
best trying to get Don?s work to the Norwegian readers as accurate as
possible. Maybe it would be a good idea to get your sources on
Internet, Don? Then at least it would get here!
Erik H?rthe
This is my first letter to this group as I have just been connected
to Internet. I hope you guys out there don?t mind if I don?t know the
rules yet.
Mike asked if any of the translators actually asks Don Rosa when a
problem comes up. I wrote him and told what I do, but maybe the info
is also of interest to others. Here goes:
I have done work on the Norwegian translation of Don?s stories, f.i.
on the Family tree and on Life of $crooge. It takes a lot of time to
try to get the names as correct as possible. I first get the stuff
with Don?s text, and then my job is to try to figure out which of the
characters and places that has been used by Barks earlier. Then I
try to find the correct American magazine where they were printed
first, and where these names were first published in Norway. If in
doubt, Don was contacted. It would help a lot to have a list of the
sources Don has used on each story, and I understand that he tries to
send one with the new stories he makes. However, none of these lists
has ever reached me.
So there are lots of work done before the actual translation
starts.This is done to try to get the result as close to the original
Norwegian translation of Barks?s names as possible, and although it
takes time, we hope it?s worth it. At least we know that we do our
best trying to get Don?s work to the Norwegian readers as accurate as
possible. Maybe it would be a good idea to get your sources on
Internet, Don? Then at least it would get here!
Erik H?rthe
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #668.
Message 98 -
1995-05-20 at 18:05:07
PER:
>that I inserted by hand in the digest next to appear. I must have
>done something wrong then, so the digest making script didn't realize
>where the different messages started and ended. The second message
>was just an ordinary subscription-request-sent-to-the-wrong-address.
Well, since nobody has yet answered 'The Long-lost Message Of The
Finnish Trekkie" (cool name for a movie ;) could you get it on the list?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
>that I inserted by hand in the digest next to appear. I must have
>done something wrong then, so the digest making script didn't realize
>where the different messages started and ended. The second message
>was just an ordinary subscription-request-sent-to-the-wrong-address.
Well, since nobody has yet answered 'The Long-lost Message Of The
Finnish Trekkie" (cool name for a movie ;) could you get it on the list?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Per Starback
Disney-comics digest #668.
Message 99 -
1995-05-20 at 18:33:17
Mike> Well, since nobody has yet answered 'The Long-lost Message Of The
Mike> Finnish Trekkie" (cool name for a movie ;) could you get it on the list?
Huh? What do you mean? I was in that digest -- only the contents
listing at the beginning didn't know about it.
BTW: The new version of the Disney comics Database is now available
at ftp. (pub/comics/disney/index at ftp.lysator.liu.se). Story
searches from the WWW pages still search the old version.
--
Per
Mike> Finnish Trekkie" (cool name for a movie ;) could you get it on the list?
Huh? What do you mean? I was in that digest -- only the contents
listing at the beginning didn't know about it.
BTW: The new version of the Disney comics Database is now available
at ftp. (pub/comics/disney/index at ftp.lysator.liu.se). Story
searches from the WWW pages still search the old version.
--
Per
Egil Pettersen
Two characters in D 93303
Message 100 -
1995-05-20 at 20:22:58
Does anyone know if Mickey and Minnie has ever run into Red Bat and
Rubberizer before? They are in an 8 page-story that will come in
Norwegian and Danish DD/AA no 37/95, and the story?s code is D 93303
Erik Horthe
egil at telepost.no
Erik Horthe
egil at telepost.no
Rubberizer before? They are in an 8 page-story that will come in
Norwegian and Danish DD/AA no 37/95, and the story?s code is D 93303
Erik Horthe
egil at telepost.no
Erik Horthe
egil at telepost.no
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #669.
Message 101 -
1995-05-21 at 16:29:00
>ERIK:
Erik! How great that you're on here!!! (And who is "Egil
Petterson"?) Now you can check details with me at a moment's notice right
here on Internet, eh? Well, you had been doing it by FAX which is a bit
better -- that way I get back to you right away. But if you don't have your
own FAX, perhaps this is even better. (But then, this "Egil Petterson" bit
suggests you're borrowing someone else's computer?) Whatever the case, I'm
glad to see you here!
Say, remember that time outside that restaurant in Oslo (where'd
we'd just eaten some whale), when I told you I'd trade some nice art to
anyone who found me a MARCH OF COMICS #41 ("Race to the South Seas")? Call
off that request -- I got one a few weeks ago. I still need a couple of the
earliest Donald Duck one-shot comics to have a full set of (American) Disney
comics (not much of a task compared to having a full set of NORWEGIAN Disney
comics, which fills a small room)... but that issue completed my Barks
collection.
What's with Svein Erik? I never hear from him anymore.
Erik! How great that you're on here!!! (And who is "Egil
Petterson"?) Now you can check details with me at a moment's notice right
here on Internet, eh? Well, you had been doing it by FAX which is a bit
better -- that way I get back to you right away. But if you don't have your
own FAX, perhaps this is even better. (But then, this "Egil Petterson" bit
suggests you're borrowing someone else's computer?) Whatever the case, I'm
glad to see you here!
Say, remember that time outside that restaurant in Oslo (where'd
we'd just eaten some whale), when I told you I'd trade some nice art to
anyone who found me a MARCH OF COMICS #41 ("Race to the South Seas")? Call
off that request -- I got one a few weeks ago. I still need a couple of the
earliest Donald Duck one-shot comics to have a full set of (American) Disney
comics (not much of a task compared to having a full set of NORWEGIAN Disney
comics, which fills a small room)... but that issue completed my Barks
collection.
What's with Svein Erik? I never hear from him anymore.
9475609
Disney-comics digest #669.
Message 102 -
1995-05-22 at 03:54:55
ERIK HORTHE:
Glad to have you on board! I don't believe Red Bat or Rubberizer
has appeared in any other stories. They certainly haven't been in any
Gottfredson stories, or any Murry stories from the classic period.
Can you tell me (and rest of us) what's coming up for MM in some
of the upcoming Egmont comics? Perhaps you translated my story with
Mickey and Horace Horsecollar, "Digging Up Trouble" (D 93497) which I
think may be appearing soon. If so, do you have an issue when it is
going to show up?
If you can supply us with writer/artist credits for virtually any
and all recent Egmont stories, Harry Fluks and I would be very grateful.
I seem to recall that when Eli Squinch, a Gottfredson villain from
such stories as "The Race for Riches" (1935) and "In Search of Jungle
Treasure" (1937) appeared in a 1993 Egmont story ("The Secret of Shark
Reef," or something like that), he got a different name in some
countries from the one he'd had in the local translations of his
Gottfredson appearances. I'm going to be using Squinch myself soon, and
I wonder what your data is on him. I can tell you about many MM
supporting characters. Hopefully, I'll be a lot of help!
Best wishes,
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Glad to have you on board! I don't believe Red Bat or Rubberizer
has appeared in any other stories. They certainly haven't been in any
Gottfredson stories, or any Murry stories from the classic period.
Can you tell me (and rest of us) what's coming up for MM in some
of the upcoming Egmont comics? Perhaps you translated my story with
Mickey and Horace Horsecollar, "Digging Up Trouble" (D 93497) which I
think may be appearing soon. If so, do you have an issue when it is
going to show up?
If you can supply us with writer/artist credits for virtually any
and all recent Egmont stories, Harry Fluks and I would be very grateful.
I seem to recall that when Eli Squinch, a Gottfredson villain from
such stories as "The Race for Riches" (1935) and "In Search of Jungle
Treasure" (1937) appeared in a 1993 Egmont story ("The Secret of Shark
Reef," or something like that), he got a different name in some
countries from the one he'd had in the local translations of his
Gottfredson appearances. I'm going to be using Squinch myself soon, and
I wonder what your data is on him. I can tell you about many MM
supporting characters. Hopefully, I'll be a lot of help!
Best wishes,
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Ka-wang Chu
No subject
Message 103 -
1995-05-22 at 07:26:07
please unsubscribe me from the list.
thanks
thanks
H.W. Fluks
A (non-Disney) answer for Mike...
Message 104 -
1995-05-22 at 10:22:44
Mike:
> Well, since nobody has yet answered 'The Long-lost Message Of The
> Finnish Trekkie" (cool name for a movie ;) could you get it on the list?
You want a reply to that message? OK: Finland is not the champion. Norway
is. With a better song than "Saami Ednan", BTW.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Telecom (_) fluks at pcssdc.pttnwb.nl
Netherlands "Yeah.. I've _heard_ of coral barques"
> Well, since nobody has yet answered 'The Long-lost Message Of The
> Finnish Trekkie" (cool name for a movie ;) could you get it on the list?
You want a reply to that message? OK: Finland is not the champion. Norway
is. With a better song than "Saami Ednan", BTW.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Telecom (_) fluks at pcssdc.pttnwb.nl
Netherlands "Yeah.. I've _heard_ of coral barques"
Steve Crooks
Scrooge items
Message 105 -
1995-05-22 at 15:08:58
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My wife picked up a few Scrooge items for me this weekend that were
interesting.
She got two postcards, both made by Printing Studio AG, 8802 Kilchberg/Zurich.
They are in what is called "Toppan Top Stereo". One shows Scrooge carrying a
small tree into a bank while two Beagle Boys peek anxiously around the corner.
It's printed in a 3D process so that it looks multilayered. Anybody know where
this scene is from? It's very obviously the true, comic-book Scrooge, and the
way it's colored makes it look like it's from a painted source. On the back,
the caption is "Donald Duck & Villains", which gave me quite a laugh.
The other postcard shows Scrooge, in a blue coat, waving a wand over a hat.
It's printed using the process where, depending on how you hold it, you see one
of two scenes. In one scene he's waving the wand over an empty hat, and the
other shows cash floating up out of the hat. This scene looks more like it was
just made for the postcard. On the back, the caption is "Scrooge, The Magician
of the...Finance". Both cards are listed as being in "Toppan Top Stereo", even
though they were made using two different processes.
The other item she brought me is a stamp from the Grenada Grenadines. It shows
Scrooge rowing a small row boat loaded with coins at one end, and a leak in the
side. At the bottom right is a cartoon drawing on Ben Franklin's head. Above
that are Franklin's words, "Beware of little expenses, a small leak will sink a
great ship."
--
--Steve Crooks scrooks at tyrell.net
"Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." -- Daffy Duck
My wife picked up a few Scrooge items for me this weekend that were
interesting.
She got two postcards, both made by Printing Studio AG, 8802 Kilchberg/Zurich.
They are in what is called "Toppan Top Stereo". One shows Scrooge carrying a
small tree into a bank while two Beagle Boys peek anxiously around the corner.
It's printed in a 3D process so that it looks multilayered. Anybody know where
this scene is from? It's very obviously the true, comic-book Scrooge, and the
way it's colored makes it look like it's from a painted source. On the back,
the caption is "Donald Duck & Villains", which gave me quite a laugh.
The other postcard shows Scrooge, in a blue coat, waving a wand over a hat.
It's printed using the process where, depending on how you hold it, you see one
of two scenes. In one scene he's waving the wand over an empty hat, and the
other shows cash floating up out of the hat. This scene looks more like it was
just made for the postcard. On the back, the caption is "Scrooge, The Magician
of the...Finance". Both cards are listed as being in "Toppan Top Stereo", even
though they were made using two different processes.
The other item she brought me is a stamp from the Grenada Grenadines. It shows
Scrooge rowing a small row boat loaded with coins at one end, and a leak in the
side. At the bottom right is a cartoon drawing on Ben Franklin's head. Above
that are Franklin's words, "Beware of little expenses, a small leak will sink a
great ship."
--
--Steve Crooks scrooks at tyrell.net
"Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." -- Daffy Duck