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Per Starback
Sue Davidson wrote:
> I've tried accessing http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/
> as suggested on the subscribe acceptance mail but it returns the error -

Unfortunately there are hardware problems with the computer with the
WWW server, so it's down a lot. I've heard we are waiting for spare
parts from the USA, so I hope things will get better then.

It's up right now anyway, but I wouldn't bet on it being for very
long.
--
Per
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Hi Erik!

> I am also new here!

Welcome!

> Anyway, I have a question about Donald Duck: Does anyone know who
> Donald's father is?

I think that's a question for Don to answer, he's the artist who made
"The Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge" (Lo$). The serie tells his
opinion about Scrooge's life. (And I sure agree with his opinion.)
He also made a pedrigee (is that the right word?) of Scrooge's family.

> Erik (is hoping and waiting for an answer...)

Well, here's my answer...

And here's my question:

Can you tell me/us more about you as (I assume) being a Disney-comics
fan?

--- Daniel

"I'm only a poor old man..." (according to Jakob)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
PETER (including one question to GIANFRANCO:

> You all seem to know Carl Barks personally, why don`t I? I`d
> give anything to get one line of him or speak to
> him for only a minute!!!

Why do you think we know Barks personally? At least I don't. Maybe
there are *a few* people here who did *see* him during his tour, but
knowing him personally... I don't think so. Maybe you can say that
Don knew Barks personally, but of what I heard that was only a
correspondence about stories and shaking his hands one time.

But... *if* you had a chance to speak with Barks for a minute and you
would be able to ask him some questions: What questions would you ask?
Me, I don't know what I would have asked him.

> I`d give anything to get one line of him or speak to him for only a
> minute!!!

Would you?

>> Copyright laws??? Which copyright laws???

> Well it might have been that other countries have other laws
> than we have in Germany, that`s why I mentioned it. But it
> seems to be the same, so there shouldn`t be any problem.

I think "ignoring" those copyright laws by only sending you that
tape, would be the same as copying a CD for a friend.

But, copyright laws in other countries, as you say. Gianfranco, what
about copyright laws in Italy? I've heard it's a paradise for
bootleggers there.

> I have an index containing those [Barks] scripts, but not for those
> after 1974.

Did you know that Barks also made a script for a Scrooge cartoon,
back in the fifties? It was about a mouse in his moneybin. He draw
story-board of nine pages, but they are lost now. Only his
accompanying synopsis of that cartoon has survived (published in
C.B.L.). The cartoon was never made.

The animated Scrooge only had a brief appearance in Disney's TV show
in the fifties. He did appear in his own cartoon "Uncle Scrooge
Tells about Money" (1967), but I've heard he wasn't very Barksian
there.

ALL: Is there someone who has that cartoon in his collection?

--- Daniel

"No quotations today" (P. Coenen)
DCParillo
Please retire my my subscribtion to this mailing list. I have enjoyed the
mail I have received I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone
responsible for this mailing list's creation.
Dave Rawson
JORGEN: CHIAROSCURO is a regular comic book from DC under their
Vertigo imprint. It has 24 pages of art and will be a 10-issue
series. Forgive me for not remembering, but what country are you in?
Are standard comics from the States usually available through the
comic shops there?

DAVID G: I used Squinch once, in a digest story that has not been
turned into art yet (as far as I know).

... This Tag line is Stolen.
* Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 207
--- via Silver Xpress V4.01 [NR]
Peter Coenen
HARRY:
THANK YOU for that index. Erm, could you please give me the
address of the Disney Comics Database again? I know I`ve read
it in some digest, but I`ve already forgotten it.

> They stupidly announced "Oolated Luck" as chapter 11

I saw that, too. But I think that`s no big problem, as
everybody should be able to recognize that "Oolated Luck" is
a nice story, but has nothing to do with the Lo$!

> Hm... they should have renamed it to "Keno News" for the >
occasion...

Great idea, I wonder why they didn`t, as they`ve already had
one called "Dino News". From Kino and Dino to Keno, why not? :-
)

> Are you saying they plan to continue that album series after
> the last chapter of Lo$? The Series is called "Uncle Scrooge,
> his life, his billions" so I thought it would be only 6
> albums.

Have a look at the back cover, there they say some somewhat
like "The Ehapa Comic Collection will publish the 12 chapters
[of the Lo$] in six albums and will then continue publishing
other stories made by Don Rosa" They are other sources that say
so, too. And the albums are called "Don Rosa", the "U.S.,his
life, his billions" is just the subtitle for the first ones.

JAKOB S.:
Well, we seem to be the youngest (at least somewhat active
members) of this list. So when`s your birthday? Mine is on
October 27th in 1978. I read my first Barks comics around 1984
well, my uncle read them, and I always listened. His (Barks`,
of course) stories were my favourites already at this time,
although I heard the name of Carl Barks not until 1987, when I
started collecting Disney comics. My first stories I can
remember are "The Old Castles Secret", "Christmas for
Shacktown" and "No Such Varmint".

DANIEL:
>Maybe you want the code or a copy of the story...

It would be VERY kind of you to send me a copy of that story.
Und normalerweise ist es kein Problem fuer mich,
Niederlaendisch zu verstehen. (Translated: Usually it`s no
problem for me to understand Dutch.) If you want to have some
German stories, tell me. Here`s my address:

Danny Coenen
Kopernikusstr.18
D-52428 Juelich
Duitsland (for you)

>Did you ever see the cartoon? [Der Fuehrer`s Face]

No, unfortunately I didn`t. I`m really interested how Disney
worked it out, and it has to be a good cartoon as it won an
Oscar.

> Copyright laws??? Which copyright laws???

Well it might have been that other countries have other laws
than we have in Germany, that`s why I mentioned it. But it
seems to be the same, so there shouldn`t be any problem.

> I think Harry didn`t mention the script-only stories...

I have an index containing those scripts, but not for those
after 1974.

DON:

Why do you think Scrooge died in 1967 or whenever it was? I
never ever read something like that in a story. Well, perhaps
we`ll have some minutes time in Germany to discuss such
things.

ALL:
You all seem to know Carl Barks personally, why don`t I? I`d
give anything to get one line of him or speak to
him for only a minute!!!

Bye, have a nice day, everybody. It`s great to be a member
of this list!

Danny Coenen
f.coenen at kfa-juelich.de

---No quotations today---

H.W. Fluks
The Dutch Disney comics editor, Geillustreerde Pers (GP), is looking
for writers for short non-Duck stories. Like Bucky Bug, Big Bad Wolf,
Chip 'n' Dale, etc. They are _not_ looking for Duck stories.

Interested people can contact GP in Amsterdam. I don't have their address
here, but it's in every Dutch Donald Duck weekly.

--Harry.

Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Telecom (_) fluks at pcssdc.pttnwb.nl
Netherlands "Yeah.. I've _heard_ of coral barques"
Don Rosa
>ERIK:
Donald's father was named Quackmore Duck. His mother was Hortense
McDuck. You'll see all this explained in WDC&S #600 from Gladstone in a few
months.

And with that, I really DO leave for Germany now. It was silly to
send a note to the Digest saying that anyone with any burning questions for
me should send them now before I leave -- that message was printed in the
next Digest which I just read, but that Digest will be the last I'll see, so
I'll never see any last minute messages to me that might appear in the NEXT
Digest. But just in case someone did have some important questions they
needed me to answer before I left, here are the answers:
Yes.
No.
No.
Yes.
Maybe.
No, definitely not, what a question!
Well, perhaps.
August 12, 1959.
Sorta.
Pope Pius X.
The Magna Carta.
Always.
37.
No.
Yes and no, it all depends.

With that, I take my leave. Be back in about 2 1/2 weeks.
Auf-weeder-sane (how's that spelled?)>
Paulo Barreto
Ave, folks...

DvEIJMEREN:

DVE}There's also a '50s cartoon (...) At certain point she tells she
}considered suicide among other things. (The cartoon shows her pointing
}a gun at herself.)

I can't remember that scene. Maybe Brazilian TV has shown a
censored version... (although "Spare the Rod" et al, as I told here, go
unabridged)

_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ P.C.Barreto
mad at digi.ax.apc.org
----1111 * Never hit a man with glasses. Hit him with a baseball bat
KERSTIN S.DERBAUM
--- Inkommet fr}n VD.POL2 031-667632 95-06-01 17:39
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE

DANIEL:

Yes, I want to have an adress to a place where I can find the old
CBL. What did you expect? In Sweden you ARE able to buy them, but
each part then costs about 250 dollars! And I think that is too
much, so please give me an adress, if you know one. It would be
much more cheeper to send it by mail than to buy a complete set
in Sweden. And you are SO right about one cannot order it from
Another Rainbow. I tried that too. And I also want to say that I
am a proud owner of a complete CBL, so please help me!
---
Jakob Soderbaum

==================================================================
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
DAVID:
| Actually, "The Lost Legion" IS the one which ends with Goofy walking
| in front of the cinema.

So that is... oh... I'll find the other one next time I'm home.

| David Gerstein (who STILL maintains that Paul Murry's best art
| was made from 1948-1956!)

OK, I agree that the art isn't bad, but I don't like that Mickey with
the tiny body and a big head.

GIANFRANCO (about I-1993):
| The text is by Caterina Mognato and the art is by Giuseppe Dalla Santa.

Thanx!

| Do you need more info on the artists?

I'm quite sure I'm not the only one on the list who'd like to know more
about Italian writers/artists :-)
I can see from your later letters that you know a lot. Then I know who to
ask when I'm wondring about Italian stories :)
And Fabio is back too?

DAVID again:
| The Germans keep all their old pocket-books in print (are they the only
| country to do so?) and I'll be in Germany next month.

Norway too, but I think they sell out before they print them again,
therefore they might not always be available. I think the first ones have
been printed about five times now.

DAVE R:
| Forgive me for not remembering, but what country are you in?

Norway.

| Are standard comics from the States usually available through the
| comic shops there?

Eh, standard comics? The shop were I have my subscriptions to Gladstone's
and Marvel's Disney titles have quite a lot of American titles, but I
don't think I've seen anything called CHIAROSCURO. Most of the stuff they
sell there is super-hero titles, and most of the customers are 14 year
old kids with nintendo machines at home...

Hmmm... somehow I think Jakob and Erik have parents that work at Volvo :)

Jorgen (who's 24 and read his first Barks story, the avalanche story,
in 1975).
H.W. Fluks
DANNY ("not Peter") wrote to DON:
> In just a few days your trip through Germany will begin

That reminds me - DON: that one-page gag you made for Germany.
Will it be published somewhere else, too, or do I have to look
for it when I visit Germany?

> The 5th of the [German] "Don Rosa" albums, containing
> "The Billionaire of Dismal Downs", "The Invader of Fort
> Duckburg" and "Oolated Luck" is out now

Yes, I was able to buy that album last week. They stupidly
announced "Oolated Luck" as chapter 11 (since it is in the album
right after chapters 9 and 10...).

The back cover had a drawing of Donald and Scrooge in the 313 car,
with Don himself on the back seat (a photograph, still with beard).
The drawing looked faxed, but otherwise very good.

> There was even an article about Carl Barks, the German
> "Barks Library" and you in the "Kino ( which means Movie) News"

Hm... they could have renamed it to "Keno News" for the occasion...

> "Micro Ducks From O.S.". I`m wondering
> if you will make a story basing on this

Egmont already published a followup to this story, somewhere in the
80s. I re-read it a few weeks ago, and I don't like that story.
Maybe Don could do a better job... But then again, this story
would take place 8 years after 1966, which is way after Scrooge
died (in the Rosa universe, at least).

> As you perhaps know there is a kind of a "Don Rosa Library"
> published in Germany
> The first six albums contain two LO$-chapters each

Are you saying they plan to continue that album series after
the last chapter of Lo$? The series is called "Uncle Scrooge,
his life, his billions" so I thought it would be only 6 albums.

--Harry.

Harry Fluks ()_() Hollaendische Disney Comics Wahnsinniger
PTT Telecom (_) fluks at pcssdc.pttnwb.nl
Niederlande "Jawohl.. Ich habe von Koralbarken gehoert"
9475609
That's right... With permission from Stefan Printz-Pahlson at
Egmont, I have made a few of the new Egmont documents available on our
WWW page. Just the ones I've written. They are posted at this site
with the agreement that they are NOT to be published or distributed in
any other way. They are copyrighted Egmont property, and are mainly
here as a reference for our Egmont contingent (you there, folks?) but
everyone can probably profit from them.
_The Donald Duck Universe Guide_ and _The Mickey Mouse Universe
Guide_ are Egmont's official versions for now. Both of these are
l-o-n-g guides listing all the places and characters, major and minor,
in most Barks/Rosa Duck stories and Gottfredson Mickey stories
(excepting some of the later Bill Walsh-written ones). It works like
this: Let's say you're writing a story set in a certain region (the
wilderness, for example) and you'd like to make it "canonical" with
references to, or characters from, old stories. Just look in the guide
and BING! You'll learn about your main character's experiences in the
region and who he/she knows there.
_The Mickey Mouse Universe Guide Part 2: Character Humor
Mechanics and Relationships_ has not yet been edited at Egmont and may
not be for a while, but I got permission to post this tentative version.
The same goes for the character guide to Butch (which Egmont must agree
with most of, because I've characterized Butch just this way in my new
stories).
You can find all this stuff at:
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics
No matter what I've been told now, if Egmont begins to object to
what I'm putting up on WWW for any reason, it's gonna get yanked, folks,
so enjoy it while you can. I'm not about to cause myself to get fired.

MIKE:
>And with the article there is a picture of Lo$ story where Scrooge
>gets angry in Africa and has all sorts of wild animals around him.
>There is a text under it saying: "Dynamy of Rosa's graphics. Can you
>find Mickey?" It took me weeks to notice the little Mickey under the
>elephants foot.
And it took Disney-Burbank just seconds... >sigh< In American US 290,
the bottom of that elephant's foot looks like... well, the bottom of an
elephant's foot.

PAULO:
>Beagle Boys successfully rob the entire money bin, $crooge dies, ...
Wak! I hope those two incidents aren't connected. What I like about
the Beagle Boys is that they're remarkably friendly for villains.
They're likeable villains, even when they get mean (as in US 7 and 8,
which I have a hunch was an experiment because they're never such
"traditional" villains anywhere else). They're "The Terrible Beagle
Boys," but they only pose a threat to Scrooge's MONEY. They wouldn't
kill SCROOGE, because they'd rather enjoy having him shine their shoes
once they've defeated him. Did you really have the Beagle Boys kill
Scrooge to get his money?
>Daisy ... has an accident/aborts future egg
That shouldn't be hard to do. Scrambled, or sunny side up? ;-)

David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Adam Wieherdt
I'm responding to Wanted: Disney story writers. Iam interested in
writing a story for D.C. comics. I'm 13 years old. Please respond.

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On Thu, 1 Jun 1995, H.W. Fluks wrote:

> The Dutch Disney comics editor, Geillustreerde Pers (GP), is looking
> for writers for short non-Duck stories. Like Bucky Bug, Big Bad Wolf,
> Chip 'n' Dale, etc. They are _not_ looking for Duck stories.
>
> Interested people can contact GP in Amsterdam. I don't have their address
> here, but it's in every Dutch Donald Duck weekly.
>
> --Harry.
>
> Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
> PTT Telecom (_) fluks at pcssdc.pttnwb.nl
> Netherlands "Yeah.. I've _heard_ of coral barques"
>
Adam Wieherdt
WOW! After all these years I thought Donold Duck never had Parents. I
thought he was an orphan. What about all the other characters? In the
next coming issue have a big family reunan.

Adam Wieherdt

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On Thu, 1 Jun 1995, Don Rosa wrote:

> >ERIK:
> Donald's father was named Quackmore Duck. His mother was Hortense
> McDuck. You'll see all this explained in WDC&S #600 from Gladstone in a few
> months.
>
> And with that, I really DO leave for Germany now. It was silly to
> send a note to the Digest saying that anyone with any burning questions for
> me should send them now before I leave -- that message was printed in the
> next Digest which I just read, but that Digest will be the last I'll see, so
> I'll never see any last minute messages to me that might appear in the NEXT
> Digest. But just in case someone did have some important questions they
> needed me to answer before I left, here are the answers:
> Yes.
> No.
> No.
> Yes.
> Maybe.
> No, definitely not, what a question!
> Well, perhaps.
> August 12, 1959.
> Sorta.
> Pope Pius X.
> The Magna Carta.
> Always.
> 37.
> No.
> Yes and no, it all depends.
>
>
> With that, I take my leave. Be back in about 2 1/2 weeks.
> Auf-weeder-sane (how's that spelled?)>
>
>
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