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Knut Hunstad
I just read the norwegian DD&Co #23 today (or was it 22?). It had an extra
with the "Land of the totems" (I don't know the correct word for totem, but
I hope you know what I mean?). After HDL sell the steam organ to a hermit
there is a scene where DD seems to want to drown himself. Or am I the only
one to consider this a suicide attempt?

The extra also included the "Flying Dutchman" story, which I really like.
It struck me that one scene there reminds me of a scene from "Forrest Gump",
where Luitenant (how do you spell that?) Dan challenges God during a storm,
only that U$ challenges the Flying Dutchman. But I guess it's just
coincidence...

P.S.: I can't wait 'til the next one, it will have the first part of ODaDaD
(was that correctly spelled?).

Knut Hunstad
Mike Pohjola
PETER:
At least you're younger than me, but only for 12 days... but even
that is nothing compered to his new guy, Adam (13!).

DANNY:
You can't just expect a Disney family comics to show the death of
a main character. Especially if it will happen only after 12 years from now.
So what you're succesting is that some people go Back To the Future and see
Scrooge dying. Not likely!
And who wouldn't give a fortune for a chance to be with Barks?! But
for you and me all there is, is this list. You did say 'happy birthday' to
Barks by it, didn't you?

ADAM:
> I'm responding to Wanted: Disney story writers. Iam interested in
>writing a story for D.C. comics. I'm 13 years old. Please respond.

D.C. as in DC?-) No, I don't think that's what they meant with
'non-Duck stories' ;) But seriously, I've thought about that myself and
find it very hard to create an original gag-story for BigBadWolf or
Chippendale. The characters are quite weak (a bad wolf, a good wolf and a
couple of pigs or a smart chipmunk and a stupid chipmunk) and the fact
that there can never be a really exciting adventure for them 'cause their
motives are so simple (to eat the pigs / to get some nuts for winter). I'd
like to hear what you could come up with. And please, NOT pig-looking UFOs
landing near Zeke and beating him up!

Could you consider limiting the amount of useless quotes in your
messages, please?

ALL:
Does any of you people live in Salzburg or nearby area? I'll be there
for three weeks and hate to think about giving up Internet for that time!

--

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
H.W. Fluks
Some mail program (or person) at "kuma.web.net" re-sent my old
message "Rosa in Germany" yesterday. So don't think I'm getting
senile (I'm 33 years and one week old), sending messages twice...

Donald's parents
----------------
Donald's father and mother appear in chapter 10 of Don Rosa's "Life and Times
of Scrooge McDuck". This chapter will be in an Uncle Scrooge comic in the
USA in a few months.

I guess both are dead by now ("now" being somewhere in the mid-50s). So
one could call Donald an orphan.

Scrooge's death
---------------
Danny asked:
> Why do you think Scrooge died in 1967 or whenever it was?

Don Rosa has Scrooge born in 1867. So he can't be living way after 1967,
or he would be very old. BTW: Don once made a drawing for a fanzine
(so _not_ for the regular comics) where Donald, Daisy and the nephews
(looking quite older) are standing near Scrooge's grave. The grave stone
says "1867 - 1967, Fortuna favet fortibus".

This is, of course, Don Rosa's view on the Duck-world. Everyone's free
to think Scrooge is still alive today!

Meeting Barks
-------------
I agree I wouldn't know what to talk about if I would meet Barks. He
doesn't know me. It would be different if _he_ was a member of this
mailing list...

Answers to Knut
---------------
"The Land of the Totem Poles".
Donald might just have tried to swim home...
Lieutenant.
Yes, ODaDaD.

About "The Flying Dutchman":
How did they translate the gag about Scrooge knowing Dutch? ("I learned
it when I was selling wind to the wind millers along the Zuyder Zee")

The End
-------
I will not be seeing my e-mail again before june 13. I will also miss
this list!

--Harry.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
MIKE:

> I've thought about that myself and find it very hard to create an
> original gag-story for BigBadWolf or Chippendale. The characters
> are quite weak (...) and the fact that there can never be a
> really exciting adventure for them 'cause their motives are so
> simple (...).

I don't agree. At the end of the seventies we had a couple of very
good Big Bad Wolf stories here in Holland. Very good drawings and
very good plots. Unfortunately, I don't know the names of the
artists. But I'm sure Harry does.

--- Daniel
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
>I'm quite sure I'm not the only one on the list who'd like to know more
>about Italian writers/artists :-)
Well... I'm a cartoonists too and the president of the Italian cartoonists
society "Anonima Fumetti"... so it's not so difficult... ;-)

>I can see from your later letters that you know a lot. Then I know who to
>ask when I'm wondring about Italian stories :)
>And Fabio is back too?
I don't know... He said he was away, but I don't remember when he should
come back...
Bye!
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
>Gianfranco, what about copyright laws in Italy? I've heard it's a paradise for
>bootleggers there.

I've heard it too... ;-)
But it's not as you may think. Indeed the laws are more or less as in other
countries, simply the judges are not cruel if you don't make *business*
(money) with illegal copies.
But I heard that in USA copyright laws are hard: then, how is it possible
that Walt Disney co. does not pay royalties to writers and artists when
re-printing their stories? And how is it that WDco does not give back the
original artworks to their artists?
WDco. does this way not only in the USA but also in Italy (and I suppose,
everywhere). So, you see, even in the States the law is not equal for all
(at least if one is a poor cartoonist and the other is a big industry).
In Italy (and I suppose in almost avery country) tha copyright law says that
the publisher MUST pay royalties when reprintig something, and that he MUST
give back the original artwork. Sergio Bonelli comics publisher (the biggest
one in Italy, after WDco.) does it, while WDco. does not. You can understand
that the judge may be good to the one who does not make money breaking the
copyright law; what should he do to the one who makes Billions breaking the
law (or, if you want, "adapting" the law to suit their wishes)? Some day the
artists may no more bear these things and unite to make the law applied (or,
at least, work for someone else).
All this is dedicated to the Disney "spies" on the Internet... Beware of Karma.
Bye! :-)
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
>Disney Story Writers... I've thought about that myself and
>find it very hard to create an original gag-story for BigBadWolf or
>Chippendale.

Well in Italy we have at least two Disney magazines (Cip e Ciop, Bambi) with
those kind of stories and my collegues write for them, but they are meant
for very young people, and the stories are very easy...
BJ.RN PETTERSSON
--- Received from VD.POL1 031-669152 95-06-02 16:41

-> IN=disney-comics(a)minsk.docs.uu.se

Hello again!
Thanks to everyone that have answered on my question about
Donald's father!

Here is a question that i have thought on for a long time:
Does anyone know who Huey, Dewey and Louie's father is?

/Erik
ADEBLIEC
I just made a minor blunder and deleted the past three digests (#679
, 680, and 681, I believe.) This made it into a major blunder.
Could someone please forward them over to me if they still have them
available? Thanks much.

-Augie

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Augie De Blieck Jr. - Keep VR.5 Alive! http://daniel.drew.edu/~adebliec
Drew University
Madison, NJ USA
Per Starback
It's always possible to get old disney-comics messages from the
administrator. Just send requests about it to the administrative
address of the list: disney-comics-REQUEST at minsk.docs.uu.se.

I've sent those messages to Augie.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
KERSTIN S.DERBAUM
--- Inkommet fr}n VD.POL2 031-667632 95-06-02 19:11
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE

> DANIEL:

Yes, we DO have our own copy of "Voodoo Hoodoo" in Sweden, but
according to what I have heard about it it is censored. Someone
redraw the natives faces so they would look more nice to children
and I think that's a shame!

> DANNY:

My birthday is in May. May the 2:nd 1979. And I listened to my
dad reading a Carl Barks story when I was about three years, in
1982. I don't know what the story is called in english, but in
Sweden it is called "Den stora Strandletardagen". Does anyone
know what it is called in english (thank's for your cooperation)?
The comic-book magazine is from 1978 (in sweden, at least) so it
also appears that my dad had the comicbook even before my birth,
which could mean that he planned my Disney-loving even before my
birth. In that case I was born to like Disney. I watched, and
recorded all the Disney-programmes on TV from 1986 and I haven't
missed anyone ever since. I subscribed to the Kalle Anka & C:o
(=the swedish Donald Duck magazine) in 1989 and have continued
to buy them ever since.
---
Jakob Soderbaum

==================================================================
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
JACOB:
| I don't know what the story is called in english, but in
| Sweden it is called "Den stora Strandletardagen". Does anyone
| know what it is called in english

Could be this one:

W/WDC 224 10 BH2 DD Den store strandfesten
WDC 224 10 WDCiC37 DD The Beachcombers' Picnic

but this isn't the only beach party story.

I haven't indexed any magazines from the seventies yet, so I don't
know if it was published here in 1978 (which it probably was).

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
DAVE R:
| JORGEN: CHIAROSCURO is a regular comic book from DC under their
| Vertigo imprint.

Found it. I see that I should have thought better about my local
comic shop. I asked her (not the shop) if she had heard about it,
and she showed me the shelf where it was :-)

I'll tell you what I think of it when I've read it.

Jorgen
DAVID.A.GERSTEIN
I went by two comic-shops today. One, which doesn't get
Gladstones due to some legal hassle from Fleetway (publishers of the
infamous MICKEY AND FRIENDS), had gotten their comics in; the other,
where I was expecting to find WDC&S 598, hadn't.
But the one without Gladstones did have a "Previews" catalogue
which mentioned some upcoming Gladstone comics:

DD 294 has "The Dye is Cast" (the 1957 Barks 10-pager in which
Gyro's off-red and water-colored dyes wreak havoc on the water
resources of Duckburg) and the usual AT strips. The cover was shown
and is a reprint of AT's cover to WDC&S 17 (1942), although that
wasn't noted in the advertisement.
DD+MM 2 has "Special Delivery" (the 1956 Barks 10-pager about
HDL being blocked by a lion from delivering packages) and part two of
"Mickey Aladdin". A page, which actually looks like the first page
of Part 1, was shown. This looks to be from the same crew that
brings us the GO-history series (as I expected). Mickey is Aladdin,
Goofy is the Genie, and Pete is the Sultan (JUST as I predicted).
USA 35 contains Ben Verhagen's "The Treasures of Temple Khaos".
Here's disney-comics mailing list at work: Harry's Database revealed
the story, I sent it in a list to Gladstone, and Dwight translated
and dialogued it. Gladstone couldn't have done it without us, so
it's got to be good. ;-)
COL 2 (solicited as "Walt Disney Giant #2", suggesting that
this may in fact be what the series has been retitled to) is titled
"Uncle Scrooge in Arabia." Beautiful cover lettering and, for once,
a cover made of rearranged Barks art that really looks nice. John
Clark told me that Bruce Hamilton edited this issue. The first half
of this 48-page issue contains Barks' "The Mines of King Solomon."
The second half... welllll....
The second half...
What else do you think would comprise the second half of a
comic book titled "Uncle Scrooge in Arabia"?
That's right, a full reprint of the 1949 Disney/Whitman Little
Golden Book "The Cold-Blooded Penguin." An illustrated text story
with that penguin from Walt Kelly's "Three Caballeros" story (and the
film itself). Around 20 pages of penguins, in fact.
Dwight, you're our only contact with Gladstone right now. I
can't call them because it costs $4 per minute from here. Maybe you
want to call them (I can't do so, for various reasons) and see if
something (like moving the material that was to have comprised the
second half of this year's now-cancelled 64-page US issue) can be
done? I'm sorry to say it, especially because I personally like old
Disney story-books, but I think that reprinting a Little Golden Book
without a single Duck in it in the back of this comic may be
commercial suicide (no matter what the quality of the penguin tale
itself may be).
COLLECTORY is apparently what's going to determine Gladstone's
position from now on on "whether or not oversized issues sell". This
is a critical situation.

David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
>> DANIEL:
>
>Yes, we DO have our own copy of "Voodoo Hoodoo" in Sweden, but
>according to what I have heard about it it is censored. Someone
>redraw the natives faces so they would look more nice to children
>and I think that's a shame!

In Italy this story was reprinted a last time in 1988, December. The blacks
are black (but it seems the lips are too little. ?) and the word "dead" is
correctly translated "morto" at pages 1, 6 and 22 (while Western pub.
changed it with "done for").
Someone can send me a GIF file to verify the censored parts? I can send you
the GIF with the Italian reprint.
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