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Danny Coenen
In the "Der Donaldist" 90 there was the answer to the question
of the nephew`s color.

Since the beginnings of Donaldism it is a question which color
has which nephew. [...]
"The three boys can be recognized by the colors of their caps.
Huey is blue, Dewey red and Louie is green." [...]
"The colors are given by the publisher. If it sometimes should be
wrong, it is because I got just uncolored copies for the translation".
Dr. Erika Fuchs got this information from the publisher, and not from
a delivery from the parallel universe Duckburg is situated in. And as
the publisher is not a medium for deliveries from Duckburg everybody
has to decide for himself if this is authentic. [...]

As none of you (except for me) is a Donaldist, you should be happy
with this explanation. Me- I`m not.

Danny Coenen
f.coenen at kfa-juelich.de
Mike Pohjola
WES:
I don't know about USA but there certainly are lots of Disney fans
under age of ten in Finland. There also are many other comics published for
young readers such as Carebears, Moomintrolls (though it has some more mature
stuff in it) and Barbie. Yes, I had to check my kid sister's closet for these,
but there should be some for boys too. And the reason for the little amount
(=0) of child Disney fans here is the fact that there are very few children in
Internet.

DANNY, SON OF PETER:
>Well, I`d have a couple of questions to him, for example am I
>interested in his opinion about Don`s work, especially the Lo$.

You wouldn't ask for an autograph, eh?-) If I could make a question
to him, it would be: "What was the Marco Polo story like and why was it
published once in a hc book in Finland but in later versions left out?" But I
could as well ask it here.

>Scrooge died in 1967, because he first is no human being, and

You expected Don to make some doctor come from nowhere and tell
Scrooge he has 12 years of life left?-> Btw, the death of Mama McDuck
was great as was the time Scrooge first died (there could've been a hint
here now when I think about it).

DANIEL2:
There were lots of pictures and the story-line in the book "Min{
Roope-Set{" (which is one of those Italian hardcover books (originally
"Io, Paperone") containing lots of Barks' stories) = "I, Uncle $crooge"

100 dollars a page is bad?-o How much do you people get then?

When exactly will you be in Germany? I'll be around there and Salzburg
in June (I'll leave the day after tomorrow) and would like to meet you or
anyone else around. Please answer quickly 'cause I won't be here for much
longer.

ERIK:
>Does anyone know who Huey, Dewey and Louie`s father is?

You don't?! His name is ...///++ ---NO CARRIER

--

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
>of child Disney fans here is the fact that there are very few children in
>Internet.
You know, in Italy Disney is mostly for children (all the italian children
are Disney fans), but even adults in Internet are few...

> Btw, the death of Mama McDuck
>was great as was the time Scrooge first died (there could've been a hint
>here now when I think about it).
Hey. There is a story with the death of Mama McDuck? Tell me please the
title and the code and the issue!

> There were lots of pictures and the story-line in the book "Min{
>Roope-Set{" (which is one of those Italian hardcover books (originally
>"Io, Paperone") containing lots of Barks' stories) = "I, Uncle $crooge"
Now ther are others of such books, one for Donald Duck, one for Daisy Duck,
one for Minnie Mouse, and so on...

> 100 dollars a page is bad?-o How much do you people get then?

Who's getting 100$ a page? In Italy we get 35$ a page to the Writer and 60$
to the Artist: two people. Not one. And if an artist does all the work by
himself he gets about 80$. Sure, people like Cavazzano or De Vita get more.
Right.
But Sergio Bonelli publisher pays double. At least.
But: please, collegues cartoonists, tell us exactly HOW MUCH do you get!
Cartoonists all over the world, unite!
KERSTIN S.DERBAUM
--- Inkommet fr}n VD.POL2 031-667632 95-06-08 14:55
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
> ERIK; AND EVERYONE ELSE:

I have searched for the answer to that question (who is HDL's
father) since I was a duckling. And my theory is that he is
Ludwig von Drake. In the cartoon "Donald's Diary" he is looking
up from below a chair when Donald enters Daisy's (or whoever it
is) house. And he looks just the same as Ludwig von Drake, but he
is introduced as the father of HDL. Furthermore I have thought of
HDL and their Junior Woodchuks. They use their "Guidebook" well,
but they also seem to be VERY intelligent themselves. And of
course the children of a very bright scientist have to be bright!
But this could just be coincidence (?). And I think I read some-
where that sir Francis Drake where the original founder of Fort
Duckburg (or something). And everyone who read a lot Barks- (and
Rosa-) stories knows that the Junior Woodchuks used this Fort as
their headquarter. Then maybe sir Francis Drake was one of Ludwig
von Drake's earlier relatives? And that would explain why Ludwig
thought his children would join the Junior Woodchuks, doesn't it?
Maybe not. This is only a theory, but since nobody else know who
HDL's father IS this might be the answer. If anybody has anything
to say against this (OR for it), then do so. Maybe we can found
out the real answer together.
---
Jakob Soderbaum
Egil Pettersen
Hi all

I?m doing something on worlds the ducks have found underground, and
have had great help from Davids work. Does any of you know stories
where the ducks find themselves in the middle of the Earth, except
for Barks and Rosas work? I would prefer to know where these stories
were printed in the Scandinavian issues, if possible.

Thanks

Erik H.
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Here they comes at last. I've finally finished the reviews of
the Norwegian weeklies #17 to #23. I'll send them in cronological
order, but they will probably get mixed up somewhere.

BTW, JACOB, if noone answered your question. Gif is a picture
format. You'll need a gif-viewer of some kind to watch it on
the screen.

Jorgen, not a troll, but my hair does stand right up :-)
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #17 1995
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- Donald Duck (D91406, 14 pages). Art by Vicar.
Donald comes into Scrooge's office. He wants to borrow some money
so that he can by tickets to a football (rugby) game. Scrooge is
busy measuring the bonus for loyalty to his employees -- in rice.
Donald promises to give Scrooge half of what he earns that week
if he gets the loan. Later Scrooge finds out that Donald has the
chance of winning a big money prize in a radio contest. There-
fore Scrooge gives Donald the money. Later Donald finds out about
the contest, and fakes a radio transmission to take revenge. Later
he loses the contest.
Not too bad.

- The Beagle Boys (D93169, 6 pages). The art is probably by Xavi.
They plan to steal the ticket money from a cirkus (let's see, how
many times have they already done that?). A little monkey follows
them when they run away. They think that he can steal things for
them. He does -- from a police station.

- Donald Duck (D92137, 8 pages).
Donald wants a new job. He tries to get a job as a seller of a
magazine for real men. He thinks that must exciting. To get the
job Donald tells that he has fought against alligators, so the
editor thinks he's the right man for the job. The editor wants
Donald to come along on some, for the editor, quite natural things
to do, like running a marathon and jumping from a plane. Before
Donald manages to get away, he gets a lot of other exciting
experiences.
Funny.

- Mickey Mouse (D93180, 8+ pages). Art by Ferioli.
Mickey finds a way to break the curse, and everybody is happy.

- Donald Duck (KF 8.13.50, 1 page). Bob Karp, Al Taliaferro.

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #18 1995
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- Donald McWild Duck (D94067, 12 pages). Marco Rota.
The wild Duck is going to the closest viking village to destroy
the viking ships (grumble, grumble). Little Bo is coming with him,
as a volunteer. Their boat capzises. Donald is rescued by a beautyful
girl. Unfortunately the custom is that he is to marry her sister, who
doesn't exactly look like her sister. Donald then has to go through
some tests to see if he's worthy of marrying her. He plans to fail,
but he doesn't. After a while one of the vikings start to wonder if he
hasn't seen this duck earlier. Then the girl who Donald is to marry
finds Little Bo on the beach. He's then to marry the beautuful sister.
Donald must prevent this. He doesn't want to stay there. The viking
also finds out who Donald really is. His becoming wife doesn't like how
they treat him after this discovery, and beats up all of them. Then
Donald and Bo run away, destroy the viking ships, and escape in a small
one which they left complete.
Good. No need to say the art is very good.

- Goofy (D94015, 6 pages).
The owner of a clothes company tricks Goofy into being a model for
a competing company. Goofy shows up to be a good model -- although
not exactly as planned.
Actually it isn't so bad, but Goofy's clumsiness isn't that funny
that it can be used infinitely in this way.

Donald Duck (D91149, 5 pages). Art by Branca?
Donald plans to fish the biggest fish in the lake. He does. Unfortunately
fishing was prohibited that day.
ZZZZZZZZ

- Mickey Mouse (D93405, 1 page).
Mickey sends Pluto out since he (Mickey) is going out for a while.
Pluto doesn't want to, but Mickey tells him that he has his own house.
Then Mickey finds out that he has locked himself out. Pluto won't
let him into his house.
Funny.

- Madam Mim (D93243, 4 pages).
It's Mim's birthday. She goes out into the forest to pick some flowers,
but doesn't find many. Her neighbors have picked all of them, to her.
Nice birthday, but do they expect to find any flowers the next year?

- Ducktales (D93273, 8 pages).
Huey, Louey, Dewey and Webby are kidnapped by a spaceship. It's taking
them to the planet Flak. Everything there is made of glass. The ducklings
seem to be very popular there. They are shown a museum with items from
the earth, among them a toaster (Earthly bread browning machine). Then
they are shown the new item of the museum -- children from the earth...
Flak has a neighboring planet, Ring, that is not very friendly. They are
planning an attack on Flak.
Not so bad.

- Donald Duck (KF 4.13.41, 1 page). Bob Karp, Al Taliaferro.

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #19 1995
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- Donald Duck (D93335, 10 pages). Art by Vicar.
Donald wants to invite Daisy to a picnic, but she's already
decided to go with Gladstone, who'll teach her to play golf.
Donald says he's a much better golf teacher, although he's
never touched a golf club earlier (eh...?), than Gladstone.
Gladstone and Donald decides to play a round, and let the
best one teach Daisy. Donald wins, partly by cheating, but
at that time Daisy has become more interested in tennis.
Gladstone is teaching her, of course.
Not too bad, but a little too familiar...

- Mickey Mouse (D90105, 6 pages). Art by Esteban.
Mickey, Morty and Ferdy, but not Pluto, is going on a camping
trip. Pluto is to stay with a neighbor. We all know Pluto --
he isn't going to stay at any neighbor's place. On the trip
Pluto finds a lot of gold, and helps catching a couple of
crooks.
I've read that story before. Many times.

- Uncle Scrooge (D93036, 2 pages). Art by Xavi.
Scrooge is collecting buttons in the park. He finds a coin, but
it's confiscated by a park guard. When the guard loses his
trousers, Scrooge sells the button to him, for the coin.

- Donald Duck (D91300, 10 pages). Art by Xavi.
Donald is planning to make a new garage to his car. He also
agrees to keep the mascot of the JWWs for a while. He doesn't
know what it is. It's a turkey. It acts like several other
pets/mascots that Donald has agreed to take care of through
the times.

- Ducktales (D93273, 8+ pages).
Part 2. Scrooge and Launchpad are going to save the ducklings.
Unfortunately they land on Ring instead of Flak. The buildings
on Ring are made of rubber, and the inhabitants look very much
like a certain Michelin man. The king of Ring isn't interested
in the ducklings. He puts them (Scrooge and Launchpad) in prison.
Somehow they manages to save the prince of Ring, and since the
king is then in debt to them, he makes Flak realease the ducklings.
Not so bad.

- Pluto (KF 9.24.39, 1 page).

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #20 1995
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- Donald Duck (D93473, 10 pages). Art by Vicar.
Donald wins a big money prize, he thinks, and goes, together
with the nephews, to a very expensive hotel on an island in
the South Seas. He thinks that the island will show him genuine
South Seas culture. He gets very disappointed when he finds out
that the "old" villages are made of plastic, and that the national
birds are robots. Then he finds out that he hasn't won the money,
and he can't pay the hotel bill. He runs away, finds another
island where there are real natives and real birds. He brings some
eggs back to the phoney island, and they forget his bill.
The art is really good, and the story isn't bad either.

- Gyro Gearloose (D91237, 11 pages).
Gyro is trying to find something to compete with in the inventor
contest. The only thing he can think of is a small cleaning robot.
The special thing with this robot is that it reproduces itself when
there are a lot of dirt (like a bacterium). The Beagle Boys, who train
bees to steal Scrooge's money, goes to the contest to find out if
there is anything they can use. They steal a machine that can make
earthquakes, and destroy the money bin. Gyro's robot starts to
reproduce and soon there is an army of small robots which gets the
money back
The idea isn't too bad, although I'm not so sure it's new, but I don't
like the art. The Beagle Boys look terrible (which they should, but not
in that way).

- Donald Duck (D92321, 1 page). Art by Vicar.
Donald is tired of door salesmen. He pour water on the entrance to the
house, and puts up a sign that says the cement is wet.
Funny, and good art.

- Mickey Mouse (W/WDC 164, 8+ pages)

- Scamp (KF 2.11.68, 1 page)

Extra issue #4 1995
-------------------

Dedicated to space stories.

- Donald Duck (W/U.S. 29, 18 pages), Island in the Sky. Carl Barks.

- Donald Duck (D92096, 1 page).
Donald has an date with Daisy. He comes too late because he has
to watch a couple of aliens who take samples of his garden.

- Gyro Gearloose (D9622, 7 pages).
Gyro is making a new flying saucer for a film company. He decides to
make it a flying one. On his way to the film set, Gyro finds an alien
spaceship with engine trouble. He repairs it. When he comes to the film
set, the director has decided not to use a flying saucer. Noone believes
that those things can fly anyway, he says.

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #21 1995
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- Donald Duck (D92238, 14 pages). Art by Vicar.
Magica disguises herself as scrooge's maid, and steals the first
dime. There's one problem, though. There is a flower salesman in
the office, and Magica is reacting allergic to the flowers.
She goes home and finds a formula which makes her superstrong and
invincible (gosh...). In the rest of the story Scrooge is running
in front of her with the coin. At last he protects the coin with
flowers.
Vicar's art seems uninspired and I can't blame him.

- Grandma Duck (D93230, 6 pages).
Daisy comes out to Grandma's farm and finds that she is, as usual,
working very hard while Gus Goose isn't doing anything but sleeping.
She sends her to a hotel where she's supposed to rest. Grandma is
bored at the hotel. Then the railway is starting to strike, and most
of the workers at the hotel is prevented to come there. Grandma takes
over.
A little too unoriginal, I think.

- Donald Duck (D93415, 7 pages).
A newspaper in Duckburg has a contest about "The Uncle of the Year".
Donald wants HDL to nominate him. They don't want too. After a while
they start to suspect that he has nominated himself, but he hasn't.
He nominated uncle Scrooge.
Not too bad.

- Chip'n Dale (D93316, 1 page).
They make a boat of a newspaper, and transport their nuts on the river.

- Mickey Mouse (W/WDC 165, 8+ pages). Art by Paul Murry.

- Donald Duck (KF11.4.51, 1 page). Bob Karp, Al Taliaferro.

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #22
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- Donald Duck (D92432, 10 pages).
Somone has broken into the money-bin, but there isn't missing anything.
Actually there are some tools there, that hasn't been there before. There
is a name of a factory on it. The factory is in Klondike. Scrooge, Donald
and the nephews go there to solve this mystery. They find an old lady who
doesn't want anyone to come to the small city. This lady (well, she's not
exactly a lady...) shows up to be an old friend of Scrooge. She borrowed
the tools from him once, and delivered it now about a hundred years later.
Not too exciting.

- Visste du at... Article about schools in Duckburg, by Erik Hoerthe,
or rather cuts from an article by Erik Hoerthe...

- Goofy (D92132, 2 pages).
Goofy is taking a short cut. There is just one problem, usually he takes
this short cut when he's walking, not when he's driving.
Quite funny.

- Beagle Boys (D94088, 6 pages).
The Beagle Boys are "hiring" a writer to make up a perfect crime for them.
They also make him come with them. At last, which isn't so long after the
beginning, he spoils it for them.
The idea is quite good, I think...

- Donald Duck (H8339, 10 pages). Jan Gulbranson.
Daisy wants to go on a cruise. Gladstone manages to get one ticket. He gives
it to her. He and Donald try to get onboard, but is discovered by the second
commanding officer. They are set to wash the deck. Donald is to work on day-
time, and Gladstone in the night. They get a few problems trying to both be
washing the deck, and acting like rich passengers.
I think this could have been a really good story, but it somehow doesn't
stick together.

- Mickey Mouse (W/WDC166, 8+ pages). Art by Paul Murry.

- Donald Duck (KF.9.5.48, 1 page). Bob Karp, Al Taliaferro.

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #23 1995
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- Donald Duck (D93570, 10 pages). Art by Vicar.
It all starts with Donald becoming very angry at a man
who just throws some paper on the ground (and I don't blame
Donald). Donald then helds a lecture about how all these
rules that we all should obey is keeping the society to-
gether. He isn't so conserned about all the rules he breaks
himself, and ends up in jail.
I actually enjoyed reading this story :-)

- Donald Duck (W/WDC 70 A, 10 pages). Carl Barks.

- The Big Bad Wolf (H91109, 2 pages).
A couple of really bad relatives are coming to visit the
wolfs. The little nice one isn't allowed by his father to
tell the pigs about this, but he finds a way.
A good gag, and the art is really good. This is how I want
to see the wolfs.

- Uncle Scrooge (D92505, 8+ pages). The art looks like Scalabroni.
Scrooge's tanker and cargo fleet is suffering great losses. The
ships just disappear. At the same time a quite new company is
offering ships for rent to Scrooge. At very high prices. The five
ducks decide to go with one of Scrooge's tankers. It suddenly
becomes swallowed by an iceberg.
Not very original.

Mickey Mouse (KF 12.7.58, 1 page).

Extra issue #5 1995
-------------------

- Donald Duck, Land of the Totem Poles (W/D.D.O.S. 263, 24 pages).
Carl Barks.

- Daisy's Diary (W/O.S. 1055 B, 7 pages). Art by Carl Barks.

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Seems that I sent this letter only to Knut...

| From jorgenb Thu Jun 8 20:57:28 +0200 1995
| To: Knut.Hunstad at veg.sintef.no (Knut Hunstad)
| In-reply-to: Knut.Hunstad at veg.sintef.no's message of 2 Jun 1995 00:28:55 +0200
| Subject: Re: Suicide
|
|
| KNUT (about the extra issue #5):
| | The extra also included the "Flying Dutchman" story, which I really like.
|
| Huh? Did you get another extra than I did? The copy I bought contains
| "Land of the Totem Poles" and a Daisy's Diary story.
|
| Apropos suicide. It's not exactly suicide, but in one of the early pocket-
| books (#3, I think) there is a story where Scrooge threatens to drown Donald
| if he doesn't do what he wants him to. As far as I remember Jon Gisle used
| this story as an example in Donaldismen, although he used it as an example
| of how convenient it is that needed items always are there when needed
| (in this case a pond which Scrooge could use).
|
|
|
| Jorgen

Jorgen
Daniel Van Eijmeren
ERIK:

>> Does anyone know who Huey, Dewey and Louie`s father is?

Don's "Duck family-tree" tells nothing about the identity of HDL's
father. There's a "?" instead of his name and his face is hidden.

> Thanks Mike, but what do you think about Jakob Soderbaum's Theory?
> I think that JAKOB SODERBAUM is right, unless somebody else have
> something better to come up with...?

I think Jacob's theory could be very right (Ludwig von Drake being
the father of HDL), but I can't believe it's true.

I've heard of a theory about HDL's father before, it said that HDL
blew up their father with a giant firework. At least that was
told in the cartoon "Donald's nephews" or the newspaper-strips. Maybe
their father could have died by then... (as the theory said).

--- Daniel
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