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> Hello everyone. <smile> I'm a new subscriber and I would like to know
>a few things.

Welcome!

> - Can someone tell me what your abbreviations are?

Abbreviations of what?

> - Where can you find Disney comics? It is verly hard kto find them where
> I am.

Well, where are you?

>I have only read one Disney Comic: "The Hood."

Poor you! Which story is this, BTW, the comic version of the movie "Robin Hood"?

> - What is the Carl Barks Library?

A collection of books with the stories of Carl Barks, the creator of Donald
Duck++

> KNUT:
> Where do you find all of these comics? I would love to know.

My collection is quite modest compared to others on this list. No problem
buying comics here, simply go to the shop every week and buy what you want.
Getting old comics takes some work looking through piles of comics in second
hand comic stores.

> BTW, There was a movie from Disney a long time ago called "The Black
>Cauldron." Do you know if they made a comic strip after the movie?

I doubt it, TBC was more or less a flop, which Disney seems to try to erase
from the public memory.

> For
>a while I've heard that after each Disney movie or television cartoon,
>they start a Comic strip. Perhaps there might be a strip for Pocahontas.

Mostly that's true, at least for newer movies.

Knut Hunstad

I am not aware of a newspaper strip for THE BLACK CAULDRON, but Golden Press
did issue a quality paperback comic book version of the movie. It is
probably pretty hard to come by, now, but I have one.

>In reading digest #705, I noticed a response to a reader's question
>concerning Carl Barks. The person responding called him the creator of
>Donald Duck! He did create many of Disney's characters including Uncle
>Scrooge, but he can not be credited with the creation of Donald Duck!
>Carl Barks did not even work for the Disney studios in 1934 when Donald
>first appearred in The Wise Little Hen story. (Donald Duck's first story)
>Sincerely, Barry Branvold, a duck fan from North Dakota, USA!

I stand corrected (blush, blush)! That's what happens when you're presenile
and write quick replies...

Knut

Well, I'm back! Although the header may actually say that I'm
Larry Gerstein, that's just because I'm using my family account now (which
is under my dad's name). It's me, David Gerstein. I had a fine visit to
Germany where I had some great visits with my one-time exchange partners,
enjoyed some philosophical discussions and lots of magnificent food. Yep,
a great holiday. And among other things,

JANET AND MICHAEL
have German copies of both that Birthday story (printed without a
code in Germany) and "Hail the Conquering Duck" (which took some doing to
find, but I found it!) waiting for them! What's your address, guys?
You'll have 'em in the blink of an eye!

DANIEL:
> I would also like to know if there's Barks-material in CBLinC that is not in
> the conventional CBL. Is there?
Yes. There are some storyboards for never-produced cartoons in the
CBLiC albums which are not in the hardback CBL, namely "Lost Prospectors"
and "Night Watchman Donald." (There are much smaller fragments of these in
the hardbacks, but that doesn't really count.)
"Scrooge McDuck and Money" is frequently shown on the Disney
Channel these days. There's a must-see episode of their "Quack Attack"
half-hour show that pairs it, complete, with "Donald in Mathmagic Land".

JAKOB:
> I have searched for the answer to that question (who is HDL's
> father) since I was a duckling. And my theory is that he is
> Ludwig von Drake. In the cartoon "Donald's Diary" he is looking
> up from below a chair when Donald enters Daisy's (or whoever it
> is) house. And he looks just the same as Ludwig von Drake, but he
> is introduced as the father of HDL.
Careful! This is one of those weird cartoons with everyone playing
roles! This same cartoon shows HDL as being _DAISY'S BROTHERS_ -- the Von
Drake-like character is Daisy's father! So I don't think this is
canonical.
This is the first time Von Drake ever appeared anywhere, by the
way. He doesn't actually have a name or any dialogue in the cartoon and
didn't reappear until a 1961 TV appearance (for which he was slightly
cleaned-up in appearance and given his classic voice and mannerisms).

DANIEL AGAIN:
> Maybe you notice, that this subject ("lost art") really frustrates
> me sometimes. If I remember well, David has been in the Archives. But
> I can't recall exactly what he said about it...
All I know is that Disney has some proofs to comic stories in the
Disney Archives which don't exist (as proofs, I mean) anywhere else.
Disney Comics Inc. had access to them, but they didn't really know what was
in there because the indexing system wasn't very methodical at the time.
(The Archives have a proof to WDC 42's cover, but when Bob Foster wanted to
reprint it in 1992, he had to have it reinked because he wasn't told about
the proof. On the other hand, he was able to print "The Hard Loser" from
original 1943 proof pages in 1990, which is the only time it was reprinted
in its original quality.)
When it comes to unpublished stories, I know that it was the Disney
Archives which managed to save the Milkman story in English, but I'm
reasonably sure that they don't have any other lost stories.

HARRY:
> I know David is working on an English script for one of [the great Dutch Wolf
>> stories]: the "egg" story.
Part II of all this is that I sent it to Gladstone prior to
departing for Scotland a few months ago. This morning I talked to them to
find that MY PACKAGE WAS LOST IN THE MAIL and so they have never seen the
story! So it won't be appearing in WDC&S 601 as we had once planned;
maybe (I'm only guessing now) a few issues later. I'll see if John would
like to use it in the back of the GIANT series (formerly COLLECTORY).
I researched 1950, one of the finest years for Gil Turner's wolf
stories, and created a dictionary of Zeke Wolf dialect which came in handy
for this story, which I titled "Musical Eggs." Whenever we end up seeing
it, I think it should go over very well.

FREDRIK:
> ["Donald's Special Capabilities"] sounds very much like the one published in
> Swedish Kalle Ankas Pocket 4. Does it include Donald and the nephews going to
>> sea with the Beagle Boys and Scrooge respectively?
I've read this story in German, too. It's by Romano Scarpa.
Actually, I thought it was one of the worst "classic-era" Scarpa stories
I'd ever read, but each person has their own favorites.

DON:
Good to have you back! I too looked for the TEMPO issue, and
didn't manage to find it. I DID, however, find a comic catalog from Ehapa.
A catalog that included images of the covers of the Rosa Library.
Including a cover which appears to never have actually made it onto
any published edition, although the catalog portrays it as a cover for Rosa
Library album #4.
The cover I'm referring to is one you drew illustrating LO$ 6. It
shows Scrooge riding a giraffe and twirling a lasso. It's a beautiful
cover, but it was quite obviously drawn under the supposition that LO$ 6
was to be the cover story of Album 4, while it ended up being the backup in
Album 3. (For those who haven't seen it, the cover of Album 3 illustrated
LO$ 5, only natural.)
Who incorrectly told you that LO$ 6 was to headline one of the albums? And
what will happen to this magnificent cover? If you wouldn't mind sending
me a copy of the art, I'll use it in the brochure for this year's Comic Con
panel.
I, too, read the COMICS JOURNAL review, when I saw it in the shops
yesterday. I agree that the review was good. If you want to refer them,
though, to an example of what the LO$ might have been like had Disney
produced it, I think you ought to refer them to "A Dime in Time" in Disney
Comics DUCKTALES #17-18, which stated that Scrooge's time in the Klondike
had him living in the fictional town of Uppa Creek! One of the weirdest
traits of the Disney Comics regime under Len Wein was that they seemed to
consciously discourage naming any actual places in their Duck and Mouse
tales.
It's JAIME Diaz, not HAIME, by the way.
Was anything changed in Gladstone's printing of LO$ 9? I noticed
that Scrooge's limerick about the gold miner would have included the word
"home" at the end of two lines, if the final line indeed ended "struck
home" (as I believe you said it did). Also, there was a blank space below
Goldie's photo on the newspaper in the opening panel. In the German
edition, the caption "Kidnapped?" appeared there, and I'd imagine that your
original version was supposed to have it there as well.
How old is Scottie supposed to be in this chapter? He looks like
he's only about 12.

PER:
The title of the Gladstone series WALT DISNEY'S COLLECTORY has
indeed become WALT DISNEY GIANT. Please change it on our WWW page,
including on the "Disney Comics in the U. S." article, when you can. Issue
one comes out any time now!

DONALD DUCK 292
is in the shops now. Beautiful cover made from AT art. There's
the 1958 Barks story "Noble Porpoises" -- quite honestly, it's a pretty
good story but I imagine Gladstone will take some flak for printing a story
about DD hunting dolphins. The AT strips filling the rest of the issue
include the complete "Don on the Farm" (with Gus Goose) and the conclusion
of "Flubbity Dubbity Duffer", as well as some miscellaneous gags. Nothing
has been censored or cut. Also, there's a 2-page feature showing how AT
revised a partially-completed daily strip in mid-1938 for better comic
effect; the "rough draft" of the strip was discovered this year and it's
very interesting to see it and read about how the changes were made. This
is what Gladstone does best.
As usual, there are no NEW stories in this comic, and I'm
disappointed that AT hogs ALL this space, and now the comic is on newsprint
paper again (albeit with good printing), but still, it's definitely worth
buying. The cover is worth framing!

THE MOST RECENT GLADSTONE ALBUMS
(CBLWDC 40-41 and CBLDDA 16) came while I was away, too. Sadly the
printing in them is muddy and terrible, with misaligned colors rendering
outlines fuzzy and panel-borders hairy. I may gripe about the problem when
it crops up in an occasional $2 comic, but it's really not a big deal if it
doesn't happen continously. But the problem is just inexcusable in an
album for which I've paid $9! Do other people's copies of these recent
albums have the same problem? Is anyone else actually buying them?
All this said, "The Village Blacksmith" (WDC 242) is one that I
hadn't actually read before and which struck me as quite a classic,
especially as it came in such a late period.

David Gerstein
<gerstein at math.ucsb.edu>
"Have a chestnut, boys! -- OW!"

gerstein at math.ucsb.edu

WHOEVER IT WAS:
Someone was wondering about whether there was a "comic strip" for
POCAHONTAS as they said there had been for other Disney animated features.
This question puzzled me at first, since the questioner seemed to be new to
all this (not knowing who Carl Barks was) yet seemed familiar with the
Disney practice of releasing a comic strip to help promote their latest
feature movie or cartoon which is something they did in the 30s-60s. A
"comic strip" refers to the newspaper comic page. But seeing Wes' reply, I'm
assuming the questioner meant comic BOOK, not STRIP. That makes more sense
in the context.
Comic strips appear in the newspaper, not in comic books (unless
they reprint old newspaper strips, eh?).

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PER OR HARRY:
This question is not on Disney comics. By any chance do you know
the business address of the Walt Disney Company/Corporation? I am an
accounting student and I need to get an "annual report" from them.

KNUT:
The abbreviations I am wondering about are the following:
1. DDBP - Donald Duck ?
2. LO$ - ? Scrooge
and so on. I am living in Oakland California and a lot of comic
book stores only sell Marvel comics and DC comics. The story "The Hood"
is a Mickey Mouse story in which he wears a black hood to fight the bad
guys. Do you know if there is a Carl Bark's collection in the state of
California? I know that the movie "The Black Cauldron has a story book.
I already have it. But I just wanted to find if there was a comic book.

JONC:
Do you know how I can possibly obtain the "Black Cauldron" in
album form from Norway? I would like to know. What is the Sierra?

DANIEL:
Do you know or can you help me find a quality comic book version
of the "Black Cauldron"? Where did you get yours? Do you know the address
to Golden Press Publishers?

DON:
Yes I meant Comic books not comic "strips".

Does anybody know if Pocahontas will have additional adventure comic
books?
Thanks

Colette Cardoza wrote:
> PER OR HARRY:
> This question is not on Disney comics. By any chance do you know

Hm... Why would I or Harry be particularly suited to answer that
question? At least I don't realize whatever gave you the idea I would
know that offhand. You don't have to direct all your questions at any
particular person. Anyway, as you say, it wasn't about Disney comics,
so I go on to the questions that were: (There are good reasons this
is a mailing list on Disney comics and not on Disney)

> The abbreviations I am wondering about are the following:
> 1. DDBP - Donald Duck ?
> 2. LO$ - ? Scrooge
> and so on.

There are lots of somewhat cryptic abbreviations that stand for
different comic book titles. You'll find lots of those abbreviations
in the legends for the index files at the archives. Take a look at
them! (See your welcome message for details.)

DDBP is usually short for "Donald Duck Beach Party" when Disney comics
people talk to each other, but last time I think it was just a typo
for DDPB that was a temporary (not very standard) abbr for some
Donald Duck pocket books.

LO$ or Lo$ is not one of those abbreviations though, but "Life of
Scrooge" which is a series of stories by Don Rosa (also on this
list!). The full name of the series is "The Life and Times of $crooge
McDuck", but it seems like the short version of the title has stuck.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"