PETER:
>>> I`d give anything to get one line of him or speak to him for
>>> only a minute!!!
>> Would you?
> Hey, I`m a fan! Of course I would love to meet him, and I think
> everybody on this list would like to, too.
Your comment just made me ask myself what *I* would have asked him,
and I don't think I have a really important question that only *he*
can answer (and didn't answer before!).
I don't think I have questions to Barks, only *about* him (his work).
*Burning* questions like:
* Isn't there any change that some of Barks' lost work is somewhere
in the Disney vaults? How much did Another Rainbow try to trace
*all* the survived art? (I also wonder *where* they found it...)
Isn't there any change to see the lost stories "Golden Apples" and
"Bobsled-race" in the future? (It could be that this art is filed
under the wrong name, or something like that...)
Thinking about this, I *maybe* have one question to Mr. Barks:
"Why didn't you try to get the scrapped art back as soon as you
discovered that it was scrapped?" (Barks *did* get some of his
original art back, like the unpublished "Christmas Carol".)
Maybe you notice, that this subject ("lost art") really frustrates
me sometimes. If I remember well, David has been in the Archives. But
I can't recall exactly what he said about it... maybe he can refresh
my memory when he returns to our "family"?
--- Daniel
"As Barks remembers it, the story was a modern version of the myth of
Atlanta and the golden apples, and was shelved because Daisy did not
behave in a 'ladylike manner' in the story." (Kim Weston)
Author
Topic: 199506
(219 messages)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Hi, Mr. Barks! (Lost art)
Message 91 -
1995-06-09 at 01:07:01
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Grandma Duck's last appearance
Message 92 -
1995-06-09 at 01:25:19
PETER:
> Grandma Duck, for example, would have been 117 years old when
> you`d say she died in the same year as Scrooge did, and I think
> that she was alive until then, at least till the very late
> Barksian time. I wonder why Don didn`t make her died on a special
> date... Does anyone know when she appeared last in a Barks story?
I looked very quickly in my Barks-index (so I might be slightly wrong
about this), but I *think* she appeared for the last time in about
1960.
--- Daniel
> Grandma Duck, for example, would have been 117 years old when
> you`d say she died in the same year as Scrooge did, and I think
> that she was alive until then, at least till the very late
> Barksian time. I wonder why Don didn`t make her died on a special
> date... Does anyone know when she appeared last in a Barks story?
I looked very quickly in my Barks-index (so I might be slightly wrong
about this), but I *think* she appeared for the last time in about
1960.
--- Daniel
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Marco Polo
Message 93 -
1995-06-09 at 07:51:22
MIKE:
> If I could make a question to him, it would be: "What was the
> Marco Polo story like and why was it published once in a hc book
> in Finland but in later versions left out?" But I could as well
> ask it here.
The answer to this question is that the story is *banned*, although
it has been published in the CBL (with altered text!).
In Holland they ignored the banning recently, they published it
in a hardcover (using CBL, so altered text included).
What's the story about? Well, it's about a civil war in Unsteadystan
(read: Vietnam) and here are sure a lot of explosions in the story.
I sometimes wonder how the story got past the Disney office at all,
back in 1965.
--- Daniel
- "But I'm a *Duckburgian* citizen!"
- "Duck down! That doesn't make you *bulletproof*!"
> If I could make a question to him, it would be: "What was the
> Marco Polo story like and why was it published once in a hc book
> in Finland but in later versions left out?" But I could as well
> ask it here.
The answer to this question is that the story is *banned*, although
it has been published in the CBL (with altered text!).
In Holland they ignored the banning recently, they published it
in a hardcover (using CBL, so altered text included).
What's the story about? Well, it's about a civil war in Unsteadystan
(read: Vietnam) and here are sure a lot of explosions in the story.
I sometimes wonder how the story got past the Disney office at all,
back in 1965.
--- Daniel
- "But I'm a *Duckburgian* citizen!"
- "Duck down! That doesn't make you *bulletproof*!"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Two questions
Message 94 -
1995-06-09 at 07:57:08
MIKE:
> DANIEL2:
> There were lots of pictures and the story-line in the book "Min{
> Roope-Set{" (which is one of those Italian hardcover books (originally
> "Io, Paperone") containing lots of Barks' stories) = "I, Uncle $crooge"
> [...]
Huh? Was this entire message meant to me? What is it about?
ADAM WIEHERD:
Are you still here?
--- Daniel
> DANIEL2:
> There were lots of pictures and the story-line in the book "Min{
> Roope-Set{" (which is one of those Italian hardcover books (originally
> "Io, Paperone") containing lots of Barks' stories) = "I, Uncle $crooge"
> [...]
Huh? Was this entire message meant to me? What is it about?
ADAM WIEHERD:
Are you still here?
--- Daniel
BJ.RN PETTERSSON
Theory!?
Message 95 -
1995-06-09 at 11:31:42
--- Received from VD.POL1 031-669152 95-06-09 10:30
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
Hi!
MIKE:
>>Does anyone know who Huey, Dewey and Louie`s father is?
> You don't?! His name is ...///++ ---NO CARRIER
Thanks Mike, but what do you think about Jakob Soderbaum's Theory?
I think that
JAKOB SODERBAUM is right, unless somebody else have something better to
come up with...?
Bye for now...
/Erik
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
Hi!
MIKE:
>>Does anyone know who Huey, Dewey and Louie`s father is?
> You don't?! His name is ...///++ ---NO CARRIER
Thanks Mike, but what do you think about Jakob Soderbaum's Theory?
I think that
JAKOB SODERBAUM is right, unless somebody else have something better to
come up with...?
Bye for now...
/Erik
Paulo Barreto
Draconian Contracts
Message 96 -
1995-06-09 at 12:14:40
GIANFRANCO:
}how is it possible
}that Walt Disney co. does not pay royalties to writers and artists when
}re-printing their stories?
I can't develop an opinion about it unless I read the contracts
issued by Disney contributors. I'm a writer to Brazilian edition of MAD
magazine (another publishing multinational corporation, of course) since
1993 and I'm used to sign some contracts every months. All of them
clearly state that, since I am paid the total amount specified, the
company becomes the only owner of "the entire copyright relative to the
work, for they may commercially exploit, alter, use, unuse, publish,
transfer and/or licence it to third party, in part or as a whole,
according to their need or interest".
Such contracts take place not only in Brazilian MAD, but also in
the U.S. and all international editions, as MAD always buys the material
instead of paying royalties. Disney contributors should have signed
contracts granting Disney enough legal rights to print the material
under the "(c) Walt Disney Company" line. I'm not defending Disney, but
in the real world it's absolutely legal, legitimate, socially accepted;
let unsatisfied artists and writers work elsewhere and start their own
competing multimedia empire.. :-)
_____m__(0/¥0)__m_____ P.C.Barreto
mad at digi.ax.apc.org
----1111 * NT de que? N+o Trabalho! N+o Trabalho! N+o Trabalho!!!
}how is it possible
}that Walt Disney co. does not pay royalties to writers and artists when
}re-printing their stories?
I can't develop an opinion about it unless I read the contracts
issued by Disney contributors. I'm a writer to Brazilian edition of MAD
magazine (another publishing multinational corporation, of course) since
1993 and I'm used to sign some contracts every months. All of them
clearly state that, since I am paid the total amount specified, the
company becomes the only owner of "the entire copyright relative to the
work, for they may commercially exploit, alter, use, unuse, publish,
transfer and/or licence it to third party, in part or as a whole,
according to their need or interest".
Such contracts take place not only in Brazilian MAD, but also in
the U.S. and all international editions, as MAD always buys the material
instead of paying royalties. Disney contributors should have signed
contracts granting Disney enough legal rights to print the material
under the "(c) Walt Disney Company" line. I'm not defending Disney, but
in the real world it's absolutely legal, legitimate, socially accepted;
let unsatisfied artists and writers work elsewhere and start their own
competing multimedia empire.. :-)
_____m__(0/¥0)__m_____ P.C.Barreto
mad at digi.ax.apc.org
----1111 * NT de que? N+o Trabalho! N+o Trabalho! N+o Trabalho!!!
Paulo Barreto
Scrooge
Message 97 -
1995-06-09 at 12:14:40
DvEIJMEREN:
DVE}You're right, the artist couldn't get away with the character Scrooge
}(as Barks meant him).
At least not in the "classic" standards. I think Disney was not
up to make out a feature for Scrooge's premiere nor Barks' scenic
grandeur and elaborate plots could fit a short film (even in DuckTales
some stories span more than one episode).
}> TV show in the fifties.
The other messages reminded me: it was in _Mickey Mouse Club_
opening sequence. How could I, the number 1 MMC fan, forget that
detail? :)
_____m__(0/¥0)__m_____ P.C.Barreto
mad at digi.ax.apc.org
----1111 * NTYMI Now that you mention it
DVE}You're right, the artist couldn't get away with the character Scrooge
}(as Barks meant him).
At least not in the "classic" standards. I think Disney was not
up to make out a feature for Scrooge's premiere nor Barks' scenic
grandeur and elaborate plots could fit a short film (even in DuckTales
some stories span more than one episode).
}> TV show in the fifties.
The other messages reminded me: it was in _Mickey Mouse Club_
opening sequence. How could I, the number 1 MMC fan, forget that
detail? :)
_____m__(0/¥0)__m_____ P.C.Barreto
mad at digi.ax.apc.org
----1111 * NTYMI Now that you mention it
Gilbert Roser
Last friday's digest #674.
Message 98 -
1995-06-09 at 16:26:06
H.W. Fluks said:
>
> DAVID:
> > So I'll index MMA 1-13 and 15-18 when I'm back home next month.
Please excuse the long time till my response but I was and am very busy at
work.
DAVID: Because of too much work in the moment You can index the MMA if You
want to. I myself won't be able to do until next month, I think.
HARRY: But then I'll index the rest like I told You including the plotters
and coverdates if they are known. The German index is in a very
slow progress. For the sample I send You the abbreviations of the
books I'm writing an extra file with a list of them, the whole
name, the contents and a short history in the near future.
--
----------------------------------------------------
Gilbert Roser A Disney Maniac
TUBerlin
Germany
efferd at cs.tu-berlin.de
----------------------------------------------------
>
> DAVID:
> > So I'll index MMA 1-13 and 15-18 when I'm back home next month.
Please excuse the long time till my response but I was and am very busy at
work.
DAVID: Because of too much work in the moment You can index the MMA if You
want to. I myself won't be able to do until next month, I think.
HARRY: But then I'll index the rest like I told You including the plotters
and coverdates if they are known. The German index is in a very
slow progress. For the sample I send You the abbreviations of the
books I'm writing an extra file with a list of them, the whole
name, the contents and a short history in the near future.
--
----------------------------------------------------
Gilbert Roser A Disney Maniac
TUBerlin
Germany
efferd at cs.tu-berlin.de
----------------------------------------------------
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
Unsteadystan
Message 99 -
1995-06-10 at 00:18:39
MIKE:
DANIEL:
The Unsteadystan story has been published 6 times in Italy, and the last one
was in 1992.
DANIEL:
The Unsteadystan story has been published 6 times in Italy, and the last one
was in 1992.
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
Barks vs. Rosa?
Message 100 -
1995-06-10 at 00:18:49
Jonathan (L. Miller), you said: "... why Barks doesn't like Rosa's work..."
Where have you read (or heard) the direct opinions of Barks on Rosa's
stories? I would like to read it too, and understand those opinions. I di
not know anything about it; I just know that when Barks was in Italy, the
Walt Disney co. men told us not to ask him *anything* about Rosa...
Where have you read (or heard) the direct opinions of Barks on Rosa's
stories? I would like to read it too, and understand those opinions. I di
not know anything about it; I just know that when Barks was in Italy, the
Walt Disney co. men told us not to ask him *anything* about Rosa...
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
Daisy Duck book in Italy
Message 101 -
1995-06-10 at 00:19:00
MIKE:
>What kind of stories can the Daisy Duck book possibly contain?
On the last one published by Walt Disney co. Italy, there is just one story
by G.B. Carpi and a LOT of images abou all the she ducks of the Disney universe.
>What kind of stories can the Daisy Duck book possibly contain?
On the last one published by Walt Disney co. Italy, there is just one story
by G.B. Carpi and a LOT of images abou all the she ducks of the Disney universe.
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
Last Grandma Duck
Message 102 -
1995-06-10 at 00:19:11
The last time Grandma Duck appeared (made by Barks) is in 1964, in the one
page story "Flowers are Flowers".
From the Italian Carl Barks Guide by Franco Fossati.
page story "Flowers are Flowers".
From the Italian Carl Barks Guide by Franco Fossati.
Jonathan L Miller
Barks vs. Rosa?
Message 103 -
1995-06-10 at 06:12:00
In an interview in the Comics Buyers Guide (don't have the issue #,
sorry) Barks went on for some length about his dislike of Rosa in general
and Rosa's series "Life of Uncle Scrooge" in particular. No real details
as to why though.
jonathan.
sorry) Barks went on for some length about his dislike of Rosa in general
and Rosa's series "Life of Uncle Scrooge" in particular. No real details
as to why though.
jonathan.
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #689.
Message 104 -
1995-06-10 at 11:03:07
>> DANIEL2:
>Huh? Was this entire message meant to me? What is it about?
No, most of it was meant to David, but his name just disappeared :)
Sorry...
>What's the story about? Well, it's about a civil war in Unsteadystan
>(read: Vietnam) and here are sure a lot of explosions in the story.
Is it a good adventure then? What does Scrooge has to do in Uns...?
ERIK:
>Thanks Mike, but what do you think about Jakob Soderbaum's Theory?
The one with Ludwig Van Drake? Weeellll... I find that somewhat hard
to believe. First of all, HDL call him Uncle Ludwig (at least in Finland) and
if they were born say 1945, they would have their father's last name. This
again would indicate that their father was also named Duck. It probably was,
but let's just hope it wasn't the same family :)
GORIA:
>On the last one published by Walt Disney co. Italy, there is just one story
>by G.B. Carpi and a LOT of images abou all the she ducks of the Disney universe.
And people buy that stuff?! Italy - The Land Of Easy Money ;)
ALL:
I{ll be in Salzburg the next month, but I might still be able to
contact you. If not, see ya all later.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
>Huh? Was this entire message meant to me? What is it about?
No, most of it was meant to David, but his name just disappeared :)
Sorry...
>What's the story about? Well, it's about a civil war in Unsteadystan
>(read: Vietnam) and here are sure a lot of explosions in the story.
Is it a good adventure then? What does Scrooge has to do in Uns...?
ERIK:
>Thanks Mike, but what do you think about Jakob Soderbaum's Theory?
The one with Ludwig Van Drake? Weeellll... I find that somewhat hard
to believe. First of all, HDL call him Uncle Ludwig (at least in Finland) and
if they were born say 1945, they would have their father's last name. This
again would indicate that their father was also named Duck. It probably was,
but let's just hope it wasn't the same family :)
GORIA:
>On the last one published by Walt Disney co. Italy, there is just one story
>by G.B. Carpi and a LOT of images abou all the she ducks of the Disney universe.
And people buy that stuff?! Italy - The Land Of Easy Money ;)
ALL:
I{ll be in Salzburg the next month, but I might still be able to
contact you. If not, see ya all later.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Gianfranco Goria - Anonima Fumetti - Italian Cartoonists Society
Disney-comics digest #689.
Message 105 -
1995-06-10 at 14:34:15
>>On the last one published by Walt Disney co. Italy, there is just one story
>>by G.B. Carpi and a LOT of images abou all the she ducks of the Disney
universe.
>
> And people buy that stuff?! Italy - The Land Of Easy Money ;)
Heheheheh! You can bet it! Italy is so much "colonized" that people buy
EVERYTHING has some Disney character on it! The Walt Disney company thanks,
and gets the money, that flies directly to Burbank, California, USA.
Meanwhile we, the Italian cartoonists, (like Hugo Pratt, Milo Manara, Sergio
Toppi, Vittorio Giardino, Silvio Cadelo, Lorenzo Mattotti, Luciano Bottaro,
Giorgio Rebuffi and a lot of others) make wonderful stories with our own
characters that are sold only outside Italy (some of them you may even think
are French, cause you can see their books in french)... Or we work for WDco.
for some little money, no copyrights, no original artworks back.
Sure Italy is the land of easy money, but only for USA comics: mostly Disney
and Superheroes. And now also Mangas.
You know, all this reminds to me the situation before the american revolution...
Eheh! ;-)
>>by G.B. Carpi and a LOT of images abou all the she ducks of the Disney
universe.
>
> And people buy that stuff?! Italy - The Land Of Easy Money ;)
Heheheheh! You can bet it! Italy is so much "colonized" that people buy
EVERYTHING has some Disney character on it! The Walt Disney company thanks,
and gets the money, that flies directly to Burbank, California, USA.
Meanwhile we, the Italian cartoonists, (like Hugo Pratt, Milo Manara, Sergio
Toppi, Vittorio Giardino, Silvio Cadelo, Lorenzo Mattotti, Luciano Bottaro,
Giorgio Rebuffi and a lot of others) make wonderful stories with our own
characters that are sold only outside Italy (some of them you may even think
are French, cause you can see their books in french)... Or we work for WDco.
for some little money, no copyrights, no original artworks back.
Sure Italy is the land of easy money, but only for USA comics: mostly Disney
and Superheroes. And now also Mangas.
You know, all this reminds to me the situation before the american revolution...
Eheh! ;-)