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DWIGHT AGAIN:
> it seems to me I just read a foreign Disney story where it was evident
> that "Brutopia," Barks's all-purpose stand-in for the Cold War
> adversary, has since turned into a democratic nice-guy country.
Maybe this was "Danger Island" in USA 29, about eight months ago.
This list has already argued as to the merits of this story (which I
really enjoyed, myself). The exiled dictator of Brutopia is living on
an island retreat, and at the end -- as Scrooge and the ducks prepare to
bring him to justice -- they mention that the new authorities in
Brutopia are looking for him.
My next Duck story in fact involves Argus McSwine as a Brutopian
spy, suggesting that the nation is still in its Iron Curtain era. I had
this spy story waiting to come out, see...

David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>

I've been trying to figure out which colors Hewey, Dewey and Louie wear. I
thought it was Hewey Green, Louie Blue and Dewey Red. But I got confused in
"Meteor Madness" in WDC&S 598 when Susan Daigle-Leach (who is a terrific
colorist, IMHO) clearly mixed up the colors on page 5. One of the duckling's
hats turns from green in panel 1 to blue to red and back to blue.

Wes Andersen

"But, Mickey, it's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" Captain Doberman

At 03:20 PM 6/6/95 -0400, Cdoberman at aol.com wrote:
>I've been trying to figure out which colors Hewey, Dewey and Louie wear. I
>thought it was Hewey Green, Louie Blue and Dewey Red. But I got confused in
>"Meteor Madness" in WDC&S 598 when Susan Daigle-Leach (who is a terrific
>colorist, IMHO) clearly mixed up the colors on page 5. One of the duckling's
>hats turns from green in panel 1 to blue to red and back to blue.
>
>Wes Andersen

I read in one of the letters columns of Gladstone's DuckTales that the TV
artists keep track of HDL colors in this manner: "Hewey is RED (brightest
of the HUES), Dewey is BLUE (the color of DEW)..." and Louie is GREEN
(because either Louie and Lawn start with the letter "L" or because green is
the only option left). - Neal Kinney

ALL:
I`ve already posted this to the list when I was new, but it
seems that there are many people newer than me now, so I send
this one more time to avoid misunderstandings. I am not
connected to the Internet, but the research center my father
works for is. When he saw that there is a list about Disney
comics he subcribed for ME- under his name, so
you read "Peter" in the "From"-line of my mails, but it`s me
(Danny) whose mails you read in this list. So it`s still Danny-
not Peter!!! During the next days he`ll subscribe new, this
time with my name, so there won`t be any problems in the future.
Thank`s!

DANIEL:
> What questions would you ask [Carl Barks]? Me, I don`t know >
what I would have asked him.

Well, I`d have a couple of questions to him, for example am I
interested in his opinion about Don`s work, especially the Lo$.

>> I`d give anything to get one line of him or speak to him for >>
only a minute!!!
> Would you?

Hey, I`m a fan! Of course I would love to meet him, and I think
everybody on this list would like to, too.

> Did you know that Barks also made a script for a Scrooge
> cartoon, back in the fifties?

No, that`s new for me. I`ve never heared something about that.

MIKE:
> At least you`re younger than me, but only for 12 days... but
> even that is nothing compared to this new guy, Adam (13!)

At least I have been the youngest some time ago. (P.S.: Welcome,
Adam!)

> You can`t just expect a Disney family comics to show the death of
> a main character.

Well, I was quite a bit surprised when I heared that Don made
Scrooge died in 1967, because he first is no human being, and
it might be that these Ducks live far longer than we do.
Second he looked quite well in 1966 in the last Barks comics ;-) What
I wanted to know was just if there ever was a hint, comparable to the
situation in Don`s Lo$ when Scrooge heared about his mother`s dead or
the scene of his father "beeing invited to
get to know the old McDucks". I didn`t expect a hole story about it.
I think Disney never would have allowed something like that.

HARRY:
> Don Rosa has Scrooge born in 1867. So he can`t be living way after
> 1967, or he would be very old.

I don`t know if that`s the reason. Grandma Duck, for example, would
have been 117 years old when you`d say she died in the
same year as Scrooge did, and I think that she was alive until then,
at least till the very late Barksian time. I wonder why Don didn`t
make her died on a special date... Does anyone know when she appeared
last in a Barks story?

>This is, of course, Don Rosa`s view of the Duck-world.

Sure it is, and mine is similar and I don`t believe that Scrooge is
still alive *today*. I was just wondering about this special date.

ERIK:
>Does anyone know who Huey, Dewey and Louie`s father is?

As far as I know he has never been mentioned in any story.
Their mother in the Barks universe is called Thelma Duck,
in the cartoon "Donald`s Nephews" she was named "Dumbella"
and Don calls her "Della Duck".

Danny Coenen
f.coenen at kfa-juelich.de


ALL:

> The next time Scrooge was used was in Scrooge McDuck and Money
> which was done around 1965 or '66, and was more of an educational
> than an entertainment project.

Is there someone who has seen this cartoon? I have only seen a
picture of it in a book. Is this cartoon released in video-tape. Has
it been broadcasted recently? Or was it only released for a short
time, back in 1967?

BTW. I saw Scrooge (as himself) for the first time animated in
Ducktales, back in 1988. I remember that I was very curious to see
him *animated*.

--- Daniel

MARTIN:
> a chain gang who roar with laughter when taking part in the only
> pleasure of their brutal lives - watching Mickey Mouse cartoons.
Actually, it's not MICKEY they're laughing at. The cartoon used
in this sequence is 1934's "Playful Pluto," including part of the famous
"flypaper" sequence. (Mickey does appear in the film, but I'm not sure
if he's in the sequence SULLIVAN'S TRAVELS uses.) As I recall, the film
is shown to the convicts in a church on an old home-movie projector;
it's silent, and the characters in the film play an organ to it.
HOW TO READ DONALD DUCK, by the way, is still in print in the
United States; I've seen it in MANY college bookstores, and it's
actually been used in courses by my home university. I don't think the
instructors realize what the authors' real goals were. It's used, I
think, to show us dumb Americans that our country is manipulative and
produces propaganda just like any nation, something we goggle-eyed
america-firsters often forget. ;-)

GIANFRANCO:
> [Disney Italy] pay the artist about 35$ each page of text and 60$ each
> page of drawing.
Good gosh, that's AWFUL! That's a LOT less than Egmont and Oberon
(and Gladstone, back in the States) pay their comic-makers. Did
Mondadori pay more before Disney took over? I'm really surprised!
(Particularly because I have been doing a story for Disney Italy
recently without knowing what their rates were!)

DIXON:
>Any opinions on the Complete Carl Barks in Hardcover--fifteen volumes,
>isn't it? VS. the softcover volumes coming out as Donald Duck
>Adventures, et al?
The WDC&S in Color albums reprint nearly all the articles from the
corresponding hardback CBL and also include DOZENS of new articles.
Very good collections. The color is great most of the time, although
now and then there's a story that's colored very darkly.
On the other hand, the DDA in Color albums aren't quite as good.
Many very good articles from the hardback CBL aren't in them, and the
editorial style is quite strange (there's a second title page in issues
that contain stories from two comics, for example; these title pages
feature merely poorly-traced blowups of panel art, while the stories'
original covers are not reprinted in the album). The albums are NOT a
big loss, though, because the color really is great (except for that in
"Ghost of the Grotto/Adventure Down Under" in album 7, where the colors
are extremely dark).
The Gyro albums are a must-have. The color is uniformly GREAT and
there are a few good articles too (although two of the volumes have no
articles whatsoever). The Scrooge One-Pagers albums are great too, with
an absolutely wonderful article in the second one about Scrooge in
animation. Which brings me to...

The appearance Scrooge made in the titles of the MM Club: he
bursts out of the Big Bad Wolf's top hat (wearing a top hat of his own,
of course). This is ONLY in ONE season of the club's opening, by the
way; the more common opening is the one they usually showed on the
Disney Channel, way back when. I've only seen the earlier opening,
including Scrooge, on a few special compilations.
Scrooge is actually drawn nicely in the MM Club opening, which is
more than I can say for all but a few DuckTales episodes and that
excellent 1985 Sport Goofy program. (Any real Scrooge fan has to catch
this when the Disney Channel shows it next time -- aside from the
bizarre use of Goofy, this is Scrooge and the Beagle Boys animated the
way they really should be.)

>thought it was Hewey Green, Louie Blue and Dewey Red.
Nope. Huey = Red (the brightest HUE), Dewey = Blue (the color of DEW),
and that leaves Louie (and "leaves" = GREEN). Gladstone and Disney have
both fudged this occasionally, but most of the time they're on target.

David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>

I sent this to Danny in private instead of to the forum, I discovered:

DANNY:

> >Does anyone know who Huey, Dewey and Louie`s father is?

> As far as I know he has never been mentioned in any story.
> Their mother in the Barks universe is called Thelma Duck,
> in the cartoon "Donald`s Nephews" she was named "Dumbella"
> and Don calls her "Della Duck".

Isn't he mentioned in Lo$? (I still haven't read the two final
chapters, they're still not published in Holland.) In the old
newspaper-strips *or* maybe the cartoon ("Donald's Nephews"), it is
mentioned that HDL blew their father to pieces (or something) with a
giant piece of firework...

--- Daniel

DANIEL:

Thank you for looking for the code. I would still like to have
this story and I would be very grateful if you sent me a copy.
Thanks!

Danny Coenen
f.coenen at kfa-juelich.de