Hi!
Wow! Am I the first one to send my message to the *new* email-
address? Applause for Per! All the changes he mentioned sound great!
DON:
I sure liked the final chapter of Lo$. You said you were
glad, they printed it in the december issue. It's true, that they
used it in the Dutch Donald Duck Extra #12. But every year, in december,
there's also a #13-issue, coming out at the end of the year. First I
thought, they were going to print it in #13, as that would be the issue
being sold around Christmas. But they didn't.
Cool! So Gladstone's version will have three new pages? I always
like to have two different versions. I'm curious to see what you've
rearranged... :)
*** SPOILER ALERT ** SPOILER ALERT *** (Lo$#12)
I had one question about the last chaper of the Life and Times
of Scrooge McDuck, that I didn't understand. This story takes place
AFTER the Barks-story of 'Christmas at Bear Moutain'? But on the last
page of 'CaBM', Donald, Huey, Duey and Luey meet their uncle Scrooge
for the first time. In your story, they ALSO meet Scrooge for the first
time: when Scrooge's butler opens the door, one of the nephews asks him
if HE is their uncle. Why do they ask, if they've met their uncle the
day before? (at the last page of Barks' story?) The only solution that
I can think of is, that the last page of Barks' story takes place
AFTER your story. I guess this is a stupid question, but I've been
thinking of it a long time, and didn't figure it out...
*** END OF SPOILER ***
BTW: when will the 601th issue of WDC come out? If I'm not
mistaken, that issue contains Don's 'Treasure of Croesus'-story. I can't
wait to read it!
Greetings,
Arthur
Author
Topic: 199512
(361 messages)
Arthur De Wolf
The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck Chapter Twelve
Message 1 -
1995-12-01 at 08:04:22
GaryB98294
The industry
Message 2 -
1995-12-01 at 08:48:04
NON-DISNEY BREAK
This doesn't have to do with Disney Comics directly, but I've heard rumors of
a possible Marvel break-up. Word I have is that in a week or so Marvel will
license its characters out to anyone interested in puttting them in comic
books and abandon the comic book industry completely.
Sounds like a spin off of what DC was to have rumored to do in the 70s and
80. Essentially that would give us a lot of Gladstone situations, I would
guess. There certainly would be larger publishers getting the X books,
Spider-Man, etc. But some small groups could latch on to the more
insignificant characters. One scenario I heard was one such group wanted to
license Daredevil, Doctor Strange and Nick Fury.
PREVIEWS
Someone else noticed that there were no Gladstone comic books solicited in
the most recent Previews, just the Carl Barks Library editions. Hmmmm, maybe
they just were late with the information?? Let's hope so.
Gary
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End of dcomics-d Digest V95 Issue #2
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This doesn't have to do with Disney Comics directly, but I've heard rumors of
a possible Marvel break-up. Word I have is that in a week or so Marvel will
license its characters out to anyone interested in puttting them in comic
books and abandon the comic book industry completely.
Sounds like a spin off of what DC was to have rumored to do in the 70s and
80. Essentially that would give us a lot of Gladstone situations, I would
guess. There certainly would be larger publishers getting the X books,
Spider-Man, etc. But some small groups could latch on to the more
insignificant characters. One scenario I heard was one such group wanted to
license Daredevil, Doctor Strange and Nick Fury.
PREVIEWS
Someone else noticed that there were no Gladstone comic books solicited in
the most recent Previews, just the Carl Barks Library editions. Hmmmm, maybe
they just were late with the information?? Let's hope so.
Gary
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End of dcomics-d Digest V95 Issue #2
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BBranvold
WDC&S 601
Message 3 -
1995-12-01 at 09:07:31
WALT DISNEY COMICS AND STORIES #601 CAME OUT IN THE U.S. THIS WEEK.
IT IS VERY NICELY DONE, BUT... $5.95 AND DON'S TREASURY OF CROESUS IS ONLY
THE FIRST OF 3 PARTS. WHO CAN WAIT 2 MORE MONTHS TO READ THE WHOLE STORY? I
ORDERED LOTS ANYWAY, AND IF ANYONE DIDN'T GET THEM, WRITE ME. ---BARRY---
IT IS VERY NICELY DONE, BUT... $5.95 AND DON'S TREASURY OF CROESUS IS ONLY
THE FIRST OF 3 PARTS. WHO CAN WAIT 2 MORE MONTHS TO READ THE WHOLE STORY? I
ORDERED LOTS ANYWAY, AND IF ANYONE DIDN'T GET THEM, WRITE ME. ---BARRY---
Augie De Blieck Jr.
WDC&S #601
Message 4 -
1995-12-01 at 14:13:00
It did come out this week. Without going into too much detail right now,
it does look great. Just a couple of problems, such as why Susan
Daigle-Leach isn't coloring Croesus and instead colors the Sword and the
Stone adaptation. (Oh, wait. I know why - Bruce Hamilton is hawking
original cels from the movie in a double-page spread right after part one
of the adaptation. And here I thought I spent $5.95 for something
commercial-free.)
I enjoyed Croesus so far, BTW. It is interesting reading these stories
with the cliffhangars. The only problem now is waiting four months to
finish the story. SIGH
And the WVH story I didn't find to be anything extra-special. Despite
the usual tricky uses of language, I found the story itself rather blah.
More later!
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. Media relations, VR.5 Virtual Storm
(Email removed)
(Email removed)
it does look great. Just a couple of problems, such as why Susan
Daigle-Leach isn't coloring Croesus and instead colors the Sword and the
Stone adaptation. (Oh, wait. I know why - Bruce Hamilton is hawking
original cels from the movie in a double-page spread right after part one
of the adaptation. And here I thought I spent $5.95 for something
commercial-free.)
I enjoyed Croesus so far, BTW. It is interesting reading these stories
with the cliffhangars. The only problem now is waiting four months to
finish the story. SIGH
And the WVH story I didn't find to be anything extra-special. Despite
the usual tricky uses of language, I found the story itself rather blah.
More later!
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. Media relations, VR.5 Virtual Storm
(Email removed)
(Email removed)
Don Rosa
dcomics-d Digest V95 #2
Message 5 -
1995-12-01 at 16:02:00
PER:
I read your information about the new computer and software and so
on that will be running the List, and it sounds great. But I just received
the first new-style Digest and it is rather inferior to the old one for a
few reasons that perhaps you can easilly fix...?
First, there was a list of subjects but not the names of the people
whose messages were contained. I liked to see the names of the friends that
were contained in the sometimes long list of messages I was about to read --
very often, if not usually, I'm more interested in who is making the
comments rather than what they are going to say, for various reasons. Can't
you go back to the old style of contents-list?
Next I seemed to notice that it was ever-so-slightly difficult to
spot where one message ended and the next began. The different "letters"
didn't seem to be separated as clearly as they used to be, though I can't
look back at an old Digest to see the difference. But I KNEW there was
something wrong when I got to the bottom of the Digest and noticed that
Harry Fluke's message seemed to run together with a message about Marvel
from a "Gary". There was no indication where the messages began or ended,
and no clue as to who "Gary" is. I sure hope you can fix that and soon! We
won't know who is saying which.
HARRY:
I thought I mentioned this before... and perhaps I did, but
naturally it wouldn't have stuck with you until you actually read the
chapter XII I'd been referring to.
Anyway, first off, I don't know how the Dutch translation of
"Christmas on Bear Mountain" reads, but in the original there is no
indication that the last page is the first meeting between $crooge and
Donald. Actually, nowhere in the story is it stated that they have ever met
or have known each other for years... obviously Barks was trying to use a
Duck uncle, and if it were DD's uncle it would be strange if they'd never
met until then. It was left to the readers to assume what they wished. But I
naturally exploited the fact that the original story never made mention of
whether or not they'd ever met face-to-face.
However, YES, on the last page of "CoBM" they ARE together. And it's
at a dinner at McDuck Mansion as the caption should have stated. And in my
dialogue in the chapter 12 of "Lo$" that you just read, it SHOULD be
repeatedly being mentioned that the Ducks are on their way to have dinner
back at McDuck Mansion. In other words, if not for some dialogue not being
translated exactly accurately, I hoped that the Barks-fans (in other words,
those very familiar with "CoBM") would notice that all of chapter XII takes
place between the last and next-to-last page of "CoBM". In the Gladstone
version my accompanying text explains this clearly, just in case it's
confusing (and I have no doubt it is!). Actually, there should have been
MANY references in my dialogue saying that the Ducks had just spent the
previous evening on Bear Mountain and were to dine at McDuck Mansion the
evening of the story. Were all these references MISSING from the Dutch
translation?
TO EVERYONE ELSE IN AMERICA: if you want to appreciate my last
chapter of the "Lo$", please reread "Christmas on Bear Mountain" FIRST, then
chapter XII of the "Lo$". That won't make my story any better than it is or
isn't, but it might make it less... confusing?
I read your information about the new computer and software and so
on that will be running the List, and it sounds great. But I just received
the first new-style Digest and it is rather inferior to the old one for a
few reasons that perhaps you can easilly fix...?
First, there was a list of subjects but not the names of the people
whose messages were contained. I liked to see the names of the friends that
were contained in the sometimes long list of messages I was about to read --
very often, if not usually, I'm more interested in who is making the
comments rather than what they are going to say, for various reasons. Can't
you go back to the old style of contents-list?
Next I seemed to notice that it was ever-so-slightly difficult to
spot where one message ended and the next began. The different "letters"
didn't seem to be separated as clearly as they used to be, though I can't
look back at an old Digest to see the difference. But I KNEW there was
something wrong when I got to the bottom of the Digest and noticed that
Harry Fluke's message seemed to run together with a message about Marvel
from a "Gary". There was no indication where the messages began or ended,
and no clue as to who "Gary" is. I sure hope you can fix that and soon! We
won't know who is saying which.
HARRY:
I thought I mentioned this before... and perhaps I did, but
naturally it wouldn't have stuck with you until you actually read the
chapter XII I'd been referring to.
Anyway, first off, I don't know how the Dutch translation of
"Christmas on Bear Mountain" reads, but in the original there is no
indication that the last page is the first meeting between $crooge and
Donald. Actually, nowhere in the story is it stated that they have ever met
or have known each other for years... obviously Barks was trying to use a
Duck uncle, and if it were DD's uncle it would be strange if they'd never
met until then. It was left to the readers to assume what they wished. But I
naturally exploited the fact that the original story never made mention of
whether or not they'd ever met face-to-face.
However, YES, on the last page of "CoBM" they ARE together. And it's
at a dinner at McDuck Mansion as the caption should have stated. And in my
dialogue in the chapter 12 of "Lo$" that you just read, it SHOULD be
repeatedly being mentioned that the Ducks are on their way to have dinner
back at McDuck Mansion. In other words, if not for some dialogue not being
translated exactly accurately, I hoped that the Barks-fans (in other words,
those very familiar with "CoBM") would notice that all of chapter XII takes
place between the last and next-to-last page of "CoBM". In the Gladstone
version my accompanying text explains this clearly, just in case it's
confusing (and I have no doubt it is!). Actually, there should have been
MANY references in my dialogue saying that the Ducks had just spent the
previous evening on Bear Mountain and were to dine at McDuck Mansion the
evening of the story. Were all these references MISSING from the Dutch
translation?
TO EVERYONE ELSE IN AMERICA: if you want to appreciate my last
chapter of the "Lo$", please reread "Christmas on Bear Mountain" FIRST, then
chapter XII of the "Lo$". That won't make my story any better than it is or
isn't, but it might make it less... confusing?
Marco Barlotti
Wing Ding
Message 6 -
1995-12-01 at 17:46:37
This is probably going to be an easy question for most of you, but please
someone answer me!
I looked today at the set of fonts which come with Microsoft's Windows 3.1
and I noticed a fancy font called WingDings. I tried it out and it does
somehow resemble the sort of font used by Wing Ding in his strange device to
communicate with humans in the classic story by Walsh and Gottfredson (MM
Daily Strips, 1954).
Well, in fact Windows' font looks more like a collection of drawings than
like an alphabet.
The question is: what else is behind this? I mean, is Wing Ding a character
created by Walsh and become so famous that people at Microsoft named a font
after him, or maybe some weird story comes before all this or maybe (but I
am sure not) there is no connection at all.
And, moreover: what is the use of Windows' Wingdings font?
Thank you for answering!
(By the way, please excuse me for yesterdays' unreadable messsage; I messed
up with my e-mail program!)
Marco Barlotti, Dept. of Math., University of Florence
(Email removed)
"Here's the first billion I've ever made - Down at the bottom of the pile,
where it's been for seventy years!" (Walt Disney's Comics and Stories 130,
7/1951)
someone answer me!
I looked today at the set of fonts which come with Microsoft's Windows 3.1
and I noticed a fancy font called WingDings. I tried it out and it does
somehow resemble the sort of font used by Wing Ding in his strange device to
communicate with humans in the classic story by Walsh and Gottfredson (MM
Daily Strips, 1954).
Well, in fact Windows' font looks more like a collection of drawings than
like an alphabet.
The question is: what else is behind this? I mean, is Wing Ding a character
created by Walsh and become so famous that people at Microsoft named a font
after him, or maybe some weird story comes before all this or maybe (but I
am sure not) there is no connection at all.
And, moreover: what is the use of Windows' Wingdings font?
Thank you for answering!
(By the way, please excuse me for yesterdays' unreadable messsage; I messed
up with my e-mail program!)
Marco Barlotti, Dept. of Math., University of Florence
(Email removed)
"Here's the first billion I've ever made - Down at the bottom of the pile,
where it's been for seventy years!" (Walt Disney's Comics and Stories 130,
7/1951)
Marco Barlotti
Italian Disney Journals
Message 7 -
1995-12-01 at 17:56:47
I would like to contribute to Frank Stajano's description of Italian Disney
Comics.
"Almanacco Topolino" was formerly called "Albo D'Oro" ("Albo della Rosa" was
a smaller journal which later became "Albo di Topolino" keeping the
numbering sequence!).
"Albo D'Oro" at a certain time became monthly and took the big logo
"Almanacco Topolino" but kept the name "Albo D'Oro" in a small square in the
upper left corner. The it became "Mega Almanacco" and then "Mega 2000" but
still kept the same numbering sequence which started in the late 40's.
Marco Barlotti, Dept. of Math., University of Florence
(Email removed)
"Here's the first billion I've ever made - Down at the bottom of the pile,
where it's been for seventy years!" (Walt Disney's Comics and Stories 130,
7/1951)
Comics.
"Almanacco Topolino" was formerly called "Albo D'Oro" ("Albo della Rosa" was
a smaller journal which later became "Albo di Topolino" keeping the
numbering sequence!).
"Albo D'Oro" at a certain time became monthly and took the big logo
"Almanacco Topolino" but kept the name "Albo D'Oro" in a small square in the
upper left corner. The it became "Mega Almanacco" and then "Mega 2000" but
still kept the same numbering sequence which started in the late 40's.
Marco Barlotti, Dept. of Math., University of Florence
(Email removed)
"Here's the first billion I've ever made - Down at the bottom of the pile,
where it's been for seventy years!" (Walt Disney's Comics and Stories 130,
7/1951)
Henri Sivonen
A fourth brother of HD&L - FOUND!!
Message 8 -
1995-12-01 at 18:51:32
>Yes!! I fond it!! :-)))) The fourth brother of HD&L - in the story published
>here in Norway in Donald Duck & Co no. 43/1995. Storycode: 95010 - 12 pages.
>
>I don't know the original title, but the story starts with a man who is
>trying to sell a pyramid to Donald. This pyramid, which is made of plastic,
>can do "lots" of things.... And as usual, Donald bought one... You know
>the rest!
>
>Are there anybody who knows the orginal title and who the artist is?
In a magazine published by Comics Society of Finland they said the artist
may be Torres. They weren't sure. (Neighter am I.)
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed)
Fax: +358-0-479387
>here in Norway in Donald Duck & Co no. 43/1995. Storycode: 95010 - 12 pages.
>
>I don't know the original title, but the story starts with a man who is
>trying to sell a pyramid to Donald. This pyramid, which is made of plastic,
>can do "lots" of things.... And as usual, Donald bought one... You know
>the rest!
>
>Are there anybody who knows the orginal title and who the artist is?
In a magazine published by Comics Society of Finland they said the artist
may be Torres. They weren't sure. (Neighter am I.)
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed)
Fax: +358-0-479387
Henri Sivonen
Disney-comics digest #861.
Message 9 -
1995-12-01 at 18:51:34
DON,
>But Gladstone might have a table in San Diego to sell that "Lo$"
>album series and other stuff
Are there going to be Lo$ album series? They haven't even finished the U$
prints.
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed)
Fax: +358-0-479387
>But Gladstone might have a table in San Diego to sell that "Lo$"
>album series and other stuff
Are there going to be Lo$ album series? They haven't even finished the U$
prints.
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed)
Fax: +358-0-479387
Henri Sivonen
Credits in Disney publications
Message 10 -
1995-12-01 at 18:51:37
>In Denmark, the translator always gets his (DD&Co.) or her (Jumbo) name in the
>comics, and from time to time you'll see a note that a story is written by
>Carl Barks or Don Rosa. I can't remember any other artists being mentioned in
>Serieforlaget's publcations.
Here as far as I remember they have pulished the names of Don Rosa, Carl
Barks, William Van Horn, Paul Murry and Jukka Lindfors, one of the
translators.
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed)
Fax: +358-0-479387
>comics, and from time to time you'll see a note that a story is written by
>Carl Barks or Don Rosa. I can't remember any other artists being mentioned in
>Serieforlaget's publcations.
Here as far as I remember they have pulished the names of Don Rosa, Carl
Barks, William Van Horn, Paul Murry and Jukka Lindfors, one of the
translators.
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed)
Fax: +358-0-479387
Frank Stajano
Authors of I-1937
Message 11 -
1995-12-01 at 19:38:47
Just a quickie this time:
MARTIN:
Since I'm a huge fan of italian disney comics I wonder
who has drawn the story with the code "i-1937"? I don't
know it's english title but in swedish it's called
"Familjen Addanks".
The story is "La banda Bassotti e la notte dai Paperaddams", TL 1937,
(1993). Script by Nino Russo, art by Corrado Mastantuono. Both are
young, new authors. Mastantuono is one of the best among the many that
follow the Cavazzano style.
Correction to one of my earlier messages: the code for Grandi Classici
Disney is GC, not GCD.
Sorry to be so brief, I've got to go...
Frank (Filologo Disneyano)
MARTIN:
Since I'm a huge fan of italian disney comics I wonder
who has drawn the story with the code "i-1937"? I don't
know it's english title but in swedish it's called
"Familjen Addanks".
The story is "La banda Bassotti e la notte dai Paperaddams", TL 1937,
(1993). Script by Nino Russo, art by Corrado Mastantuono. Both are
young, new authors. Mastantuono is one of the best among the many that
follow the Cavazzano style.
Correction to one of my earlier messages: the code for Grandi Classici
Disney is GC, not GCD.
Sorry to be so brief, I've got to go...
Frank (Filologo Disneyano)
RHODE
WDC&S 601
Message 12 -
1995-12-01 at 22:26:55
Hello everybody:
I picked up WDC&S 601 earlier this week. I really don't like the fact that
it's a $5 book but still has 3 continued stories in it. Don's story looks
great - I loved that Magica DeSpell beginning. Let's see the whole thing
at once! Once again we're getting the umpteenth reprinting of a Mickey
story (Blaggard castle or something like that). I'm a casual Mickey
reader, but I've seen this one twice already.
AND to add insult to injury, Hamilton is once again reprinting a boring
story to sell something. The newspaper strip The Sword in the Stone, based
on the film, is being reprinted. Following that are cels from the movie
for sale. I can understand having to make money, but this is just too
blatant. It's an ok strip, but were we really waiting for this?
The South American Donald story was ok but nothing special.
Mike Rhode
I picked up WDC&S 601 earlier this week. I really don't like the fact that
it's a $5 book but still has 3 continued stories in it. Don's story looks
great - I loved that Magica DeSpell beginning. Let's see the whole thing
at once! Once again we're getting the umpteenth reprinting of a Mickey
story (Blaggard castle or something like that). I'm a casual Mickey
reader, but I've seen this one twice already.
AND to add insult to injury, Hamilton is once again reprinting a boring
story to sell something. The newspaper strip The Sword in the Stone, based
on the film, is being reprinted. Following that are cels from the movie
for sale. I can understand having to make money, but this is just too
blatant. It's an ok strip, but were we really waiting for this?
The South American Donald story was ok but nothing special.
Mike Rhode
David A Gerstein
dcomics-d Digest V95 #2
Message 13 -
1995-12-02 at 05:48:28
> Someone else noticed that there were no Gladstone comic books
> solicited in the most recent Previews, just the Carl Barks Library
> editions. Hmmmm, maybe they just were late with the information??
I imagine so. In fact, each Previews issue has a section at
the back entitled "Late Comics," in which they list comics whose
publishers didn't submit the information until the last minute. Try
looking there -- maybe Gladstone has its regular comics listed there.
(I'd check myself, but I don't have a direct market outlet here.)
Gladstone is indeed publishing comics in the month that is
under discussion. I don't know what DD 296 is supposed to contain,
but DM 5 will have Ferioli's "MM and the Trojan Horse," a very
enjoyable Pegleg Pete story which Egmont used in 1993, with a great
comedic battle winding the whole thing up. And USA 37 will have the
conclusion of "Colossus of the Nile" (which, I might note, was
originally published as a two-parter and is being kept in the exact
format with the original captions). Since WDG 2 was Scrooge, 3 was
DD, 4 was Goofy, I believe WDC 5 is a Mickey issue with some Egmont MM
stories, but I'm not sure yet.
If anyone's store is getting ADVANCE COMICS, maybe THAT lists
the Gladstones as they're supposed to be listed.
NEW DIGEST FORMAT
looks bad with my e-mail software. I have to press space bar
and return to move from each letter in the digest to the next, and
once I'm done looking at one, I can't just move back up into it -- I
have to start looking at the digest from the top again. The old
digest worked like one big letter. I don't see any advantages in the
new system -- in fact, it even contains all kinds of computerese at
the top of each letter which the old digest-making program axed.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
> solicited in the most recent Previews, just the Carl Barks Library
> editions. Hmmmm, maybe they just were late with the information??
I imagine so. In fact, each Previews issue has a section at
the back entitled "Late Comics," in which they list comics whose
publishers didn't submit the information until the last minute. Try
looking there -- maybe Gladstone has its regular comics listed there.
(I'd check myself, but I don't have a direct market outlet here.)
Gladstone is indeed publishing comics in the month that is
under discussion. I don't know what DD 296 is supposed to contain,
but DM 5 will have Ferioli's "MM and the Trojan Horse," a very
enjoyable Pegleg Pete story which Egmont used in 1993, with a great
comedic battle winding the whole thing up. And USA 37 will have the
conclusion of "Colossus of the Nile" (which, I might note, was
originally published as a two-parter and is being kept in the exact
format with the original captions). Since WDG 2 was Scrooge, 3 was
DD, 4 was Goofy, I believe WDC 5 is a Mickey issue with some Egmont MM
stories, but I'm not sure yet.
If anyone's store is getting ADVANCE COMICS, maybe THAT lists
the Gladstones as they're supposed to be listed.
NEW DIGEST FORMAT
looks bad with my e-mail software. I have to press space bar
and return to move from each letter in the digest to the next, and
once I'm done looking at one, I can't just move back up into it -- I
have to start looking at the digest from the top again. The old
digest worked like one big letter. I don't see any advantages in the
new system -- in fact, it even contains all kinds of computerese at
the top of each letter which the old digest-making program axed.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Arthur De Wolf
Wrong Dutch translation ...
Message 14 -
1995-12-02 at 08:57:49
===========================================================================
For all the people reading the digest: Here starts ARTHUR's letter: ;)
DON:
Please don't blame Harry for not reading "CoBM". It was *me* who
asked you the question yesterday. I DID reread "CoBM", but STILL didn't get
it. I think I know why I didn't get it yesterday. I only read the Dutch
translation of "CoBM". And now that I've compared it with the original
Barks-dialogues, I see that it is different. I'll show you what the English
and Dutch dialogues are on the next-to-last page of Barks' story. Scrooge is
running out of the house, and is talking to his driver:
Original Barks-version:
"James, I have just seen the BRAVEST ducks in the world!
And my nephew, Donald, is the bravest of them all!
Nothing is too good for such ducks! James, go to the
cabin and tell them to be at my mansion tomorrow for
the feast of their lives."
Dutch translation:
"Bring me to Duckburg immediately, driver! And afterwards,
come back here alone, to pick up my brave nephews.
I want to give them a feast at my home."
You see? It is completely different. In the original version, it is
clearly stated, that Scrooge wants to invite his nephews for a Xmas-feast
the next day. But in the Dutch translation, Scrooge tells his driver
to first bring him back to Duckburg (so Scrooge can quickly arrange
a feast), and afterwards pick up Donald and the nephews.
That's probably why I didn't understand your story. (And maybe,
why ALL Dutch readers won't understand your story, while they ALL read
the Dutch translation of Barks' "Christmas on Bear Mountain" !!!)
Sorry, it was my fault. I should have also read the original
Barks-dialogues of "CoBM"!
> Anyway, first off, I don't know how the Dutch translation of
> In other words, if not for some dialogue not being translated exactly
> accurately, I hoped that the Barks-fans (in other words, those very
> familiar with "CoBM") would notice that all of chapter XII takes
> place between the last and next-to-last page of "CoBM".
As I said yesterday, I assumed that the last page of Barks' story
took place AFTER you story. But I was just confused after reading the
Dutch translation of "CoBM".
And no, all your references to the dine at McDuck Mansion were
not missing in the Dutch translation!
See ya,
___
C:\>aR|HUr
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For all the people reading the digest: Here starts ARTHUR's letter: ;)
DON:
Please don't blame Harry for not reading "CoBM". It was *me* who
asked you the question yesterday. I DID reread "CoBM", but STILL didn't get
it. I think I know why I didn't get it yesterday. I only read the Dutch
translation of "CoBM". And now that I've compared it with the original
Barks-dialogues, I see that it is different. I'll show you what the English
and Dutch dialogues are on the next-to-last page of Barks' story. Scrooge is
running out of the house, and is talking to his driver:
Original Barks-version:
"James, I have just seen the BRAVEST ducks in the world!
And my nephew, Donald, is the bravest of them all!
Nothing is too good for such ducks! James, go to the
cabin and tell them to be at my mansion tomorrow for
the feast of their lives."
Dutch translation:
"Bring me to Duckburg immediately, driver! And afterwards,
come back here alone, to pick up my brave nephews.
I want to give them a feast at my home."
You see? It is completely different. In the original version, it is
clearly stated, that Scrooge wants to invite his nephews for a Xmas-feast
the next day. But in the Dutch translation, Scrooge tells his driver
to first bring him back to Duckburg (so Scrooge can quickly arrange
a feast), and afterwards pick up Donald and the nephews.
That's probably why I didn't understand your story. (And maybe,
why ALL Dutch readers won't understand your story, while they ALL read
the Dutch translation of Barks' "Christmas on Bear Mountain" !!!)
Sorry, it was my fault. I should have also read the original
Barks-dialogues of "CoBM"!
> Anyway, first off, I don't know how the Dutch translation of
> In other words, if not for some dialogue not being translated exactly
> accurately, I hoped that the Barks-fans (in other words, those very
> familiar with "CoBM") would notice that all of chapter XII takes
> place between the last and next-to-last page of "CoBM".
As I said yesterday, I assumed that the last page of Barks' story
took place AFTER you story. But I was just confused after reading the
Dutch translation of "CoBM".
And no, all your references to the dine at McDuck Mansion were
not missing in the Dutch translation!
See ya,
___
C:\>aR|HUr
For all the people reading the digest: Here ends ARTHUR's letter! ;))))))))
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Per Starback
New digest format
Message 15 -
1995-12-02 at 21:30:34
I agree with Don that it's better to have the writers in the contents
section as well. (And that's of course why I put them there in my
digestmaking script.) I'll add them again whenever I get time for
that.
You also said you think the different letters in the digest were more
clearly separated before. In my home-made digestifier I used a line
of 70 equal signs (=) as the separator. Now it's a line of 30 dashes
(-) instead with a blank line before and after. Maybe my way was more
clear, but this is a standard for digests (RFC 1153) which means that
some mail programs know about it and can implement commands like "go
to the next message in the digest", "save only this message in the
digest" etc.
Don also wrote about a message from Harry and a message from Gary
running together in the digest. I can't see that at all. In fact
there's no message at all from Harry in that digest (V95 #2) and the
messages that are there are clearly divided as far as I can see.
> and no clue as to who "Gary" is. I sure hope you can fix that and soon! We
> won't know who is saying which.
Well, the From: line in the header of the message says
"From: (Email removed)" and the letter is signed "Gary". It sounds
like your copy of that digest got corrupted someway. Anyone else's
too?
David wrote that he has "to press space bar and return to move from
each letter in the digest to the next, and once I'm done looking at
one, I can't just move back up into it -- I have to start looking at
the digest from the top again."
Evidently your email program recognizes the parts of the digests
for you. That's a feature! Have you really looked at the
documentation of the program? If there's a command to go to the next
message in a digest there ought to be a way to go to the previous
message as well.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
section as well. (And that's of course why I put them there in my
digestmaking script.) I'll add them again whenever I get time for
that.
You also said you think the different letters in the digest were more
clearly separated before. In my home-made digestifier I used a line
of 70 equal signs (=) as the separator. Now it's a line of 30 dashes
(-) instead with a blank line before and after. Maybe my way was more
clear, but this is a standard for digests (RFC 1153) which means that
some mail programs know about it and can implement commands like "go
to the next message in the digest", "save only this message in the
digest" etc.
Don also wrote about a message from Harry and a message from Gary
running together in the digest. I can't see that at all. In fact
there's no message at all from Harry in that digest (V95 #2) and the
messages that are there are clearly divided as far as I can see.
> and no clue as to who "Gary" is. I sure hope you can fix that and soon! We
> won't know who is saying which.
Well, the From: line in the header of the message says
"From: (Email removed)" and the letter is signed "Gary". It sounds
like your copy of that digest got corrupted someway. Anyone else's
too?
David wrote that he has "to press space bar and return to move from
each letter in the digest to the next, and once I'm done looking at
one, I can't just move back up into it -- I have to start looking at
the digest from the top again."
Evidently your email program recognizes the parts of the digests
for you. That's a feature! Have you really looked at the
documentation of the program? If there's a command to go to the next
message in a digest there ought to be a way to go to the previous
message as well.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"