DANIEL:
Disney-versions of already existing stories are often slightly
different. They make they're own interpretation out of it. (Which
is mostly the case with movies adapted from stories). So, you've seen
the complete movie but not the complete original story.
Only "slightly"? Does that include Cinderella and Snow White? :-)
Paulo Barreto
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Topic: 199512
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P. C. Barreto
Pinocchio
Message 196 -
1995-12-13 at 15:45:33
Bror Hellman
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Message 197 -
1995-12-13 at 16:00:57
On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Jyrki Vainio wrote:
> This may be a bit unorthodox source though, I remember
> this specific story causing confusion in Finland (especially when
> compared to the Don Rosa version of the Duck family tree) because
> it tells the story of Donald's and Scrooge's first meeting in a
> quite un-Barksian way: Scrooge and Grandma Duck (brother and
> sister!) are driving with Scrooge's limo on a dark stormy night
> when suddenly they see on the road an infant Duck baby - who has
> fallen of his nest in a tree!
Unorthodox indeed... I really don't know, but does ducks hatch in trees?
Swedish ducks don't.
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> This may be a bit unorthodox source though, I remember
> this specific story causing confusion in Finland (especially when
> compared to the Don Rosa version of the Duck family tree) because
> it tells the story of Donald's and Scrooge's first meeting in a
> quite un-Barksian way: Scrooge and Grandma Duck (brother and
> sister!) are driving with Scrooge's limo on a dark stormy night
> when suddenly they see on the road an infant Duck baby - who has
> fallen of his nest in a tree!
Unorthodox indeed... I really don't know, but does ducks hatch in trees?
Swedish ducks don't.
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Harry Fluks
Dutch reprints of LBW and VL
Message 198 -
1995-12-13 at 18:14:57
Anders said:
> According to our index it was in WDC 52. Art by Carl von Buettner
> and story by Chase Craig. Reprinted in WDC 549.
And Daniel asked:
> Maybe Harry can tell in which Dutch weekly this story was published?
I don't know of a Dutch reprint of this story. But the story was completely
REDRAWN by Jules Coenen and reprinted in DD Weekly 78-13. Apparently,
they found the original drawings too different from the modern day
wolves. Coenen also redrew the LBW story from WDC 53, published in DDW
78-06. But they DID reprint the original story from WDC 54 (in DDW 79-36),
which is I think the first story where Li'l Wolf (Wolfje) and Practical Pig
(Knor) actually meat each other. (But I may be wrong here...)
BTW: Coenen did a very good job. The original was followed closely.
Daniel also asked:
> Can you give an example of a Lockman-story published in Holland?
No, I can't, because there is no story drawn by Lockman (VL) in our
database, that has been reprinted in Holland. But there are some stories
written by VL, or just inked by VL. If you want to see his drawing style,
you'll have to look at the Gladstone issues.
--Harry.
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> According to our index it was in WDC 52. Art by Carl von Buettner
> and story by Chase Craig. Reprinted in WDC 549.
And Daniel asked:
> Maybe Harry can tell in which Dutch weekly this story was published?
I don't know of a Dutch reprint of this story. But the story was completely
REDRAWN by Jules Coenen and reprinted in DD Weekly 78-13. Apparently,
they found the original drawings too different from the modern day
wolves. Coenen also redrew the LBW story from WDC 53, published in DDW
78-06. But they DID reprint the original story from WDC 54 (in DDW 79-36),
which is I think the first story where Li'l Wolf (Wolfje) and Practical Pig
(Knor) actually meat each other. (But I may be wrong here...)
BTW: Coenen did a very good job. The original was followed closely.
Daniel also asked:
> Can you give an example of a Lockman-story published in Holland?
No, I can't, because there is no story drawn by Lockman (VL) in our
database, that has been reprinted in Holland. But there are some stories
written by VL, or just inked by VL. If you want to see his drawing style,
you'll have to look at the Gladstone issues.
--Harry.
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Christer Hanssen
Vic Lockman
Message 199 -
1995-12-13 at 18:16:00
Hi everybody!
Since the name Vic Lockman has been brought up here, I checked my two comics
which have a Lockman story in them, and I wondered who is Lockman. His style
is a bit strange I think compared to the more "common" style. When did he
start drawing? I've never seen anything of him in a scandinavian
comic-magazine, is there any? Since both my stories ar AR koded (U$A32,
U$A34) I guess he is still writing, but could someone tell me a little about
him? Is he a american?
- Christer
Since the name Vic Lockman has been brought up here, I checked my two comics
which have a Lockman story in them, and I wondered who is Lockman. His style
is a bit strange I think compared to the more "common" style. When did he
start drawing? I've never seen anything of him in a scandinavian
comic-magazine, is there any? Since both my stories ar AR koded (U$A32,
U$A34) I guess he is still writing, but could someone tell me a little about
him? Is he a american?
- Christer
Christer Hanssen
dcomics-d Digest V95 #12
Message 200 -
1995-12-13 at 18:16:00
HENRI:
>I think the best way to get started is to have one story from each artist
>you want to recognise. After that it's very easy.
I guess I'm off doing something like that, but easy? Lucky you:-))
- Christer
>I think the best way to get started is to have one story from each artist
>you want to recognise. After that it's very easy.
I guess I'm off doing something like that, but easy? Lucky you:-))
- Christer
Carey Furlong - Tdoc
Duck merchandising
Message 201 -
1995-12-13 at 18:25:39
> I asked if they offered a line of Duck cards, a Duck calendar,
> I am wondering if this type
> of product might be offered by some other company, or perhaps outside the US.
You can get calendars of both Barks oil paintings and Duck Comic covers
from distrubitors here in the states. The group I do business with is
Bear Mountain Enterprises. They also carry a large line of Duck back
issues. You can reach them at:
Bear Mountain Enterprises
Box 616
Victoria, VA 23974
Phone: (804) 696-2925
FAX: (804) 696-1675 (24 hours)
I have been well satisfied with their service.
Carey
> I am wondering if this type
> of product might be offered by some other company, or perhaps outside the US.
You can get calendars of both Barks oil paintings and Duck Comic covers
from distrubitors here in the states. The group I do business with is
Bear Mountain Enterprises. They also carry a large line of Duck back
issues. You can reach them at:
Bear Mountain Enterprises
Box 616
Victoria, VA 23974
Phone: (804) 696-2925
FAX: (804) 696-1675 (24 hours)
I have been well satisfied with their service.
Carey
Arthur De Wolf
WDC601 and US296
Message 202 -
1995-12-13 at 20:23:14
I sure feel lucky today. Not only did I get US#296 with the
Gladstone-version of the last chapter of "Lo$", but I also have WDC#601
with the first part of Don's "Treasury of Croesus".
First of all, I think the improvements Don made on the new version
of "Lo$#12" are great. I already thought the story I read in the Dutch
Donald Duck Extra looked good, but this is much better. The story-line
now has more 'spirit', and it 'runs' better. I also noticed much more
background-details, like the award on the wall, on page six. DON: Did
you get that idea from Daniel? In August, Daniel said:
"Maybe it's a good idea to show it to us in the background of your
next story (for example in Scrooge's office) as a little background
detail?".
I liked WDC#601 a lot too. The new format looks fine, although I
had expected more of it. As far as I have seen "Treasury of Croesus", it
looks great. As discussed here before, the only disappointment about it is,
that it takes six months, before the entire story has been printed. In my
opinion, that's way too long. It's another treasure-hunting story (one of
my favorite genres), in the style of 'Alexandria' and 'Colombus', which I
think is great.
I also like the fact that Gladstone doesn't print any non-Disney
advertisements in their comics anymore. Finally, the "Twizzlers Pull-n-
Peel"-ad on the backcover is gone. ;-)
Bye!
Arthur
Gladstone-version of the last chapter of "Lo$", but I also have WDC#601
with the first part of Don's "Treasury of Croesus".
First of all, I think the improvements Don made on the new version
of "Lo$#12" are great. I already thought the story I read in the Dutch
Donald Duck Extra looked good, but this is much better. The story-line
now has more 'spirit', and it 'runs' better. I also noticed much more
background-details, like the award on the wall, on page six. DON: Did
you get that idea from Daniel? In August, Daniel said:
"Maybe it's a good idea to show it to us in the background of your
next story (for example in Scrooge's office) as a little background
detail?".
I liked WDC#601 a lot too. The new format looks fine, although I
had expected more of it. As far as I have seen "Treasury of Croesus", it
looks great. As discussed here before, the only disappointment about it is,
that it takes six months, before the entire story has been printed. In my
opinion, that's way too long. It's another treasure-hunting story (one of
my favorite genres), in the style of 'Alexandria' and 'Colombus', which I
think is great.
I also like the fact that Gladstone doesn't print any non-Disney
advertisements in their comics anymore. Finally, the "Twizzlers Pull-n-
Peel"-ad on the backcover is gone. ;-)
Bye!
Arthur
Mike Pohjola
Something for everyone
Message 203 -
1995-12-13 at 20:46:34
DON:
(I've learned it's useful to send you this from time to time :)
What is the next your story to be published in Egmont?
What story are you working on now?
What is it like?
Maybe they could print "War of the Wendigo" in USA now, after they
even made a film about Pocahontas?
DAVID and other Vic Lockman fans:
Who is this guy?! What's so special about him? Has Egmont published
his stuff lately?
ALL:
The story with a panel with four nephews was published in Finland, too.
I suppose no Egmont editor noticed it...
MELANIE:
Please comment on people's ideas, not on people. And there are several
(well, some at least) strong woman characters, such as Magica De Spell. Still,
I would like to see stories with Hortense and Matilda, too.
DANIEL:
>I can at least help you with the complete original dialogue, as made by Don.
Pleasepleaseplease send this to me! I have the story in Finnish and
have often heard Don worrying about the fact they won't print it in English.
KATHY:
Is it possible for you to send less quotes which are not needed after
your message?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
(I've learned it's useful to send you this from time to time :)
What is the next your story to be published in Egmont?
What story are you working on now?
What is it like?
Maybe they could print "War of the Wendigo" in USA now, after they
even made a film about Pocahontas?
DAVID and other Vic Lockman fans:
Who is this guy?! What's so special about him? Has Egmont published
his stuff lately?
ALL:
The story with a panel with four nephews was published in Finland, too.
I suppose no Egmont editor noticed it...
MELANIE:
Please comment on people's ideas, not on people. And there are several
(well, some at least) strong woman characters, such as Magica De Spell. Still,
I would like to see stories with Hortense and Matilda, too.
DANIEL:
>I can at least help you with the complete original dialogue, as made by Don.
Pleasepleaseplease send this to me! I have the story in Finnish and
have often heard Don worrying about the fact they won't print it in English.
KATHY:
Is it possible for you to send less quotes which are not needed after
your message?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Cord Wiljes
Barks Duck calendars & cards
Message 204 -
1995-12-13 at 21:12:12
MELANIE:
You were looking for Duck Cards, Calendars or other such merchandise.
The Barks posters "Sheriff of Bullett Valley", "Sailing the Spanish Main"
and a third depicting an U$ who trims his hedge to a $-shape were released
by AR some years ago in a standard edition (around $ 8 ea) and a special
edition printed by Black Box Chicago (around $ 35 ea, signed by Barks $100 ea).
The remaining stock of these posters is now in the possession of Russ Cochran.
Anybody who is interested in them should contact Russ at
Gemstone, P.O. Box 469, West Plains, MO 65775 (Tel. 417-256-2224,
Fax 417-256-5555 )
There are good chances that he still has copies at the original price.
Ditto for the "smaller posters" which are presumambly identical to the
color covers in the original b/w CBL.
In Germany we have a very nice huge calendar of Barks' oil paintings this year
(DM 50 = around $ 37, also available as a portfolio ready for framing)
and another one with Barks U$ one-pagers. If I remember correctly I at least
saw the second one in an issue of "Diamond Previews" some months ago.
We also have a wonderful series of 30 diff. greeting cards for different
occasions (gratulation, invitation...) They show classic Barks scenes on the
outside and if you open them there is another scene, which compliments the
first to give a new gag. They cost DM 3.50 = Around 2.30 ea (envelope included).
-- But keep in mind that the text is in German |-#
If anybody would like to have some of this merchandise please contact me.
In the case of the oil-paintig calendar I can possibly arrange something
directly with the publisher or we will find another way to get the goodies
safely across the big drink.
Best,
CORD
You were looking for Duck Cards, Calendars or other such merchandise.
The Barks posters "Sheriff of Bullett Valley", "Sailing the Spanish Main"
and a third depicting an U$ who trims his hedge to a $-shape were released
by AR some years ago in a standard edition (around $ 8 ea) and a special
edition printed by Black Box Chicago (around $ 35 ea, signed by Barks $100 ea).
The remaining stock of these posters is now in the possession of Russ Cochran.
Anybody who is interested in them should contact Russ at
Gemstone, P.O. Box 469, West Plains, MO 65775 (Tel. 417-256-2224,
Fax 417-256-5555 )
There are good chances that he still has copies at the original price.
Ditto for the "smaller posters" which are presumambly identical to the
color covers in the original b/w CBL.
In Germany we have a very nice huge calendar of Barks' oil paintings this year
(DM 50 = around $ 37, also available as a portfolio ready for framing)
and another one with Barks U$ one-pagers. If I remember correctly I at least
saw the second one in an issue of "Diamond Previews" some months ago.
We also have a wonderful series of 30 diff. greeting cards for different
occasions (gratulation, invitation...) They show classic Barks scenes on the
outside and if you open them there is another scene, which compliments the
first to give a new gag. They cost DM 3.50 = Around 2.30 ea (envelope included).
-- But keep in mind that the text is in German |-#
If anybody would like to have some of this merchandise please contact me.
In the case of the oil-paintig calendar I can possibly arrange something
directly with the publisher or we will find another way to get the goodies
safely across the big drink.
Best,
CORD
Harry Fluks
AW: Toy Fairs
Message 205 -
1995-12-13 at 21:52:09
Frank DC:
> I haven't heard too many opinions about Gladstones
> new format for Comics and Stories.
OK, here I go:
Negative points:
- The machine lettering of Don's Croesus story (already discussed here).
- The article "Mickey Mouse: movie star!" No relation to anything in the
issue. I think articles should be related to stories. And not much
was told in the article.
- The Sword in the Stone, Hamilton's 9-page advertisement. Even worse
is that it will be continued in the next issue.
- Vic Lockman's way of drawing wolves.
Positive points:
- The Treasury of Croesus (I talked about this before).
- The beautiful cover! The comic is laying on the floor in front of me,
so I can look at it a lot. I already had Barks' B/W drawing from a
Dutch reprint, but this coloured version is just fantastic!
- The colouring of the rest of the comic is great too.
- Mickey Mouse "Blaggard Castle"! This is one of the best MM stories
ever made.
- Van Horn's "A Dupe in the Deep". Gave me nostalgic remembrances of
several Barks stories.
- The letters pages. Hope to see Augie there soon! 8-)
- You get sooo much in one issue. Admitted, at a higher price, but
after a while I forget about the price, while that big comic book
is still there to enjoy.
Neutral points:
- Reprinting of MM Magazine #1. It doesn't mean much to me. But I can
imagine what it must mean to Americans. I loved the reprint of the
Dutch #1 Disney issue, years ago, in Holland.
- Guardia's story Cash Clash. Looks like an average Egmont story.
> Am I the only one who objects to a two month
> waiting period between serialized story installments.
For some strange reason, I am not waiting for a 2nd or 3rd part of this
Croesus story. I mean, I'm always waiting for any of Rosa's work, but
this first part doesn't give me the feeling I want to know "what happened
next". It was a very enjoyable piece of its own!
> The Lentils of Babylon was really bad
> this way: I couldn't remember the story line from one issue
> to the next.
Yes, in that case, I had the same problem. But that was a very complex
story.
They could have re-arranged the panels to 4 rows, like someone suggested.
Then it would have fit in 1 1/2 issue.
--Harry.
> I haven't heard too many opinions about Gladstones
> new format for Comics and Stories.
OK, here I go:
Negative points:
- The machine lettering of Don's Croesus story (already discussed here).
- The article "Mickey Mouse: movie star!" No relation to anything in the
issue. I think articles should be related to stories. And not much
was told in the article.
- The Sword in the Stone, Hamilton's 9-page advertisement. Even worse
is that it will be continued in the next issue.
- Vic Lockman's way of drawing wolves.
Positive points:
- The Treasury of Croesus (I talked about this before).
- The beautiful cover! The comic is laying on the floor in front of me,
so I can look at it a lot. I already had Barks' B/W drawing from a
Dutch reprint, but this coloured version is just fantastic!
- The colouring of the rest of the comic is great too.
- Mickey Mouse "Blaggard Castle"! This is one of the best MM stories
ever made.
- Van Horn's "A Dupe in the Deep". Gave me nostalgic remembrances of
several Barks stories.
- The letters pages. Hope to see Augie there soon! 8-)
- You get sooo much in one issue. Admitted, at a higher price, but
after a while I forget about the price, while that big comic book
is still there to enjoy.
Neutral points:
- Reprinting of MM Magazine #1. It doesn't mean much to me. But I can
imagine what it must mean to Americans. I loved the reprint of the
Dutch #1 Disney issue, years ago, in Holland.
- Guardia's story Cash Clash. Looks like an average Egmont story.
> Am I the only one who objects to a two month
> waiting period between serialized story installments.
For some strange reason, I am not waiting for a 2nd or 3rd part of this
Croesus story. I mean, I'm always waiting for any of Rosa's work, but
this first part doesn't give me the feeling I want to know "what happened
next". It was a very enjoyable piece of its own!
> The Lentils of Babylon was really bad
> this way: I couldn't remember the story line from one issue
> to the next.
Yes, in that case, I had the same problem. But that was a very complex
story.
They could have re-arranged the panels to 4 rows, like someone suggested.
Then it would have fit in 1 1/2 issue.
--Harry.
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Lo$ 12
Message 206 -
1995-12-13 at 23:32:00
I cried...
And then I cried some more...
Figuratively, though.
I cry first because Lo$ is now over and the usual bi-monthly delight of
the past two years is over. Sure, we have ODaDaD coming in a couple of
months, but there's something of a closure to the original storyline.
And then I cry at the coloring, as usual. Not that Susan Daigle-Leach
didn't do a fine job, but that it didn't align right at all anywhere NEAR
where it should have been on page 5, in that beautiful half-page panel
with Donald and the nephews meeting $crooge.
Otherwise, Don, I really enjoyed it. It's been a hell of a ride. And
you manage to break or bend a lot of the rules in this series - we've had
actual deaths, swear words, continuity, and lots of dramatic moments.
Pure brilliance. (Now if you can get your head through the door after
reading this...)
-Augie
P.S. Nice touch adding in the Eisner Award!
"Joe, look around for those 12 drummers, but be careful -- they're armed!"
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(Email removed)
And then I cried some more...
Figuratively, though.
I cry first because Lo$ is now over and the usual bi-monthly delight of
the past two years is over. Sure, we have ODaDaD coming in a couple of
months, but there's something of a closure to the original storyline.
And then I cry at the coloring, as usual. Not that Susan Daigle-Leach
didn't do a fine job, but that it didn't align right at all anywhere NEAR
where it should have been on page 5, in that beautiful half-page panel
with Donald and the nephews meeting $crooge.
Otherwise, Don, I really enjoyed it. It's been a hell of a ride. And
you manage to break or bend a lot of the rules in this series - we've had
actual deaths, swear words, continuity, and lots of dramatic moments.
Pure brilliance. (Now if you can get your head through the door after
reading this...)
-Augie
P.S. Nice touch adding in the Eisner Award!
"Joe, look around for those 12 drummers, but be careful -- they're armed!"
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(Email removed)
(Email removed)
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Lettering and D.U.C.K.
Message 207 -
1995-12-14 at 00:10:15
DON:
Just found DUCK on the cover. VERY sneaky. I cringe at the thought of
the countless minutes I'm going to spend staring into the sea of coins on
the first page looking for it next.
TODD:
Richard Starkings has an advertisement in the _Kurt
Busiek's Astro City_ #5, which just went on sale today. Mayhaps someone
should steer Gladstone's computer-lettering 'division' in that direction?
-Augie
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(Email removed)
(Email removed)
Just found DUCK on the cover. VERY sneaky. I cringe at the thought of
the countless minutes I'm going to spend staring into the sea of coins on
the first page looking for it next.
TODD:
Richard Starkings has an advertisement in the _Kurt
Busiek's Astro City_ #5, which just went on sale today. Mayhaps someone
should steer Gladstone's computer-lettering 'division' in that direction?
-Augie
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(Email removed)
(Email removed)
Deckerd
WDC&S #601
Message 208 -
1995-12-14 at 00:23:36
On Dec 13, 9:52pm, Harry Fluks wrote:
> Subject: AW: Toy Fairs
> Frank DC:
>
> > I haven't heard too many opinions about Gladstones
> > new format for Comics and Stories.
> Neutral points:
> - Reprinting of MM Magazine #1. It doesn't mean much to me. But I can
> imagine what it must mean to Americans.
Unfortunately, all it meant to me was a waste of pages that should
have been used to print the rest of Don's story instead of
serializing it. That Mickey Mouse Magazine may have been important
historically, but it was also darned near incoherent, unreadable,
and horribly dated. Some of it may have been due to the early
date, when the Mouse's characterization was still relatively
primitive, but I think it was mostly bad writing. Somebody had a
really strange idea of humor and what appealed to kids, and a
thoroughly misguided idea of what the Mouse was all about even
then. MM Magazine #1 is a curio for collectors, perhaps, but its
presentday entertainment value is pretty close to zero.
On the other hand, hasn't it been said that the new format
of WDC&S is intended to make a place for collector's item stuff
like that? The kind of thing that wouldn't do well in the mass
market but would be interesting to the limited collector market
willing to pay six bucks a pop?
Still, _this_ collector wants Don Rosa stories, not obscure and
unreadable reprints of magazines that were bad ideas 60 years ago!
--Dwight Decker
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End of dcomics-d Digest V95 Issue #18
*************************************
> Subject: AW: Toy Fairs
> Frank DC:
>
> > I haven't heard too many opinions about Gladstones
> > new format for Comics and Stories.
> Neutral points:
> - Reprinting of MM Magazine #1. It doesn't mean much to me. But I can
> imagine what it must mean to Americans.
Unfortunately, all it meant to me was a waste of pages that should
have been used to print the rest of Don's story instead of
serializing it. That Mickey Mouse Magazine may have been important
historically, but it was also darned near incoherent, unreadable,
and horribly dated. Some of it may have been due to the early
date, when the Mouse's characterization was still relatively
primitive, but I think it was mostly bad writing. Somebody had a
really strange idea of humor and what appealed to kids, and a
thoroughly misguided idea of what the Mouse was all about even
then. MM Magazine #1 is a curio for collectors, perhaps, but its
presentday entertainment value is pretty close to zero.
On the other hand, hasn't it been said that the new format
of WDC&S is intended to make a place for collector's item stuff
like that? The kind of thing that wouldn't do well in the mass
market but would be interesting to the limited collector market
willing to pay six bucks a pop?
Still, _this_ collector wants Don Rosa stories, not obscure and
unreadable reprints of magazines that were bad ideas 60 years ago!
--Dwight Decker
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End of dcomics-d Digest V95 Issue #18
*************************************
Kathy Fitzpatrick
Pinocchio
Message 209 -
1995-12-14 at 03:15:47
Paul,
Regarding differences between Disney movies and original stories:
In Cinderella, Disney added the mice as acharacters in the story and
dvocates of Cinderella. In one of the editions, possibly Grimms', the two
stepsister actually maim their feet in order to try to get them to fit in
the glass slipper. In the original Snow White story, all of the dwarfs
where fairly grumpy at first and they did not have individual names and
personalities.
When you take a story like the Three Little Pigs, or really any of these
stories Disney has made movies of, not all of the editions of different
fairy tales are the same either. For example I have read editions of the
Three Pigs where the big bad wolf eats the first two pigs, and I have read
others where the first two pigs were able to get away and join their
practical brother. I have never seen Disney's Beauty and the Beast but
suspect it will have many additions. I thought Disney did pretty well with
Alice In Wonderland though they mixed parts of Wonderland and Through the
Looking Glass.
Kathy
Regarding differences between Disney movies and original stories:
In Cinderella, Disney added the mice as acharacters in the story and
dvocates of Cinderella. In one of the editions, possibly Grimms', the two
stepsister actually maim their feet in order to try to get them to fit in
the glass slipper. In the original Snow White story, all of the dwarfs
where fairly grumpy at first and they did not have individual names and
personalities.
When you take a story like the Three Little Pigs, or really any of these
stories Disney has made movies of, not all of the editions of different
fairy tales are the same either. For example I have read editions of the
Three Pigs where the big bad wolf eats the first two pigs, and I have read
others where the first two pigs were able to get away and join their
practical brother. I have never seen Disney's Beauty and the Beast but
suspect it will have many additions. I thought Disney did pretty well with
Alice In Wonderland though they mixed parts of Wonderland and Through the
Looking Glass.
Kathy
Kathy Fitzpatrick
Language
Message 210 -
1995-12-14 at 03:24:54
Regarding languages, as a child when my grandparents on my Mom's side were
still alive I asked them if they would teach me to speak Norwegian.
I got as far as Magen Taks (didn't even learn how to spell it) which I was
told means "many thanks". From there on my Grandfather and Grandmother spoke
totally different dialects and could not agree on what to teach me. (Maybe
some day I will learn yet). Thus, it seems beyond language, regional
dialects can also make a difference.
Kathy
still alive I asked them if they would teach me to speak Norwegian.
I got as far as Magen Taks (didn't even learn how to spell it) which I was
told means "many thanks". From there on my Grandfather and Grandmother spoke
totally different dialects and could not agree on what to teach me. (Maybe
some day I will learn yet). Thus, it seems beyond language, regional
dialects can also make a difference.
Kathy