Hi, all.
I'm back from 15 days holiday in Israel and Jordan (and Palestine, too).
With very sunny weather, I saw a lot of ancient things from B.C. (Before
Christ) to A.D. (After Dwight).
Yesterday, I spent the entire evening catching up with my e-mail.
So here's a reply to some of the messages from October 14 till yesterday...
MARCO (October 14):
> issue #85 of "Zio Paperone" carries [...] a short GG Milton-Jeepes story
I'm sure you mean Jippes. Which story do you mean? And who's GG? Gladstone
Gander, Gus Goose or Gyro Gearloose?
SVEN-OLIVER (October 14):
> After the Barks' part of the Uncle $crooge Adventures
> in Color has run out in the end of 1998, will there be
> more Barks material left, which awaits publication in
> the new (colored) album series?
At least the stories from Grandma Duck's Farm Friends, Daisy Duck's
Diary and HDL Junior Woodchucks have not been printed (yet?) in a colour
CBL album. Barks only drew or only wrote these stories.
CHRISTER (October 14):
> I've seen that they also got some albums called US Adventures in Color. Is
> this the same stories or do US Adventures in Color contain other stories not
> published in CBL? I thought CBL was a complete collection of Barks stories.
Though Daniel has answered this, I'm not sure that it's clear that there
are TWO series we can call "CBL". (If the following is obvious, please skip
it.)
1. The 10-volume, 30-album, black-and-white Carl Barks Library (where Daniel
was talking about).
2. The "graphic novel" albums in colour, titled "The Carl Barks Library
of xxx in Color". Where xxx are various titles, like "Donald Duck
Adventures", "WD's Comics".
The albums "US Adventures in Color" can be considered a part of the second
CBL, though they have no "CBL" in their name (why not?).
ARTHUR (October 14):
> Yesterday I went to a comic-convention in the Netherlands. It was very
> disappointing though, as there was nothing interesting for me to buy.
That's because I have been there the day before you have!
I bought some interesting new and old Disney and non-Disney stuff.
I also had chats with Jos Beekman (hi, Jos), Frank Jonker, Mau Heymans,
Kirsten de Graaff, Frans van Oudenaarden and Daan Jippes. Daan drew a
Donald for me, 1 minute before closing time. He tried to draw Donald's
head from the back, to save time. But then he found out that drawing
Donald from the back takes MORE time...
> I haven't even seen ONE single American Disney comic.
They were on one place. I showed Mau Heymans that his cover was on
Uncle $crooge #301. He said it was not one of his best covers.
Mau also liked the artwork of Pat Block very much. He bought one of the
Gladstones with Pat's work.
> Jippes told me that he hasn't drawn any Barks-Junior Woodchuck-stories.
> And he won't make any more either.
Mau Heymans picked out three JW stories, and will be redrawing them early
next year.
BTW: Jippes also told me that Barks made a new script and that he was
asked to draw the story. But he thinks Barks' agent is making too much
money with this stuff. So he hasn't said "yes" yet.
MARCO (October 15):
> Per, couldn't we have a Web page called "addendum to Becattini's index", and
> collect there any information which list members may give?
I'm sure Per doesn't mind adding a page like that. But the problem is that
someone needs to *maintain* the page, i.e. collect the data and convert it
to a readable web page. And I think Per is already very busy maintaining
the dozens of other pages, so...
MARCO (October 16):
> Am I becoming an expert?
According to Dwight, we are all experts. And he may be right.
> The story is from Dell Giant Comics 53 (December 1961)
> I couldn't find it on "our" data base, though, so I can't tell the title.
W DG 53 = Donald Duck Merry Christmas [date:61-12] [inx:KCr]
W DG 53-03 6 TS JLi LVD T:Two And One Make Tree
| w : CPGP 91
| se : 62-52
JAKOB S. (October 18):
[About Rosa stories for the Dutch publisher]
> They're not so many they'd fill an entire index
> of their own. Here's the list:
...
> H 87173 U$ (Leaky Luck) 1 JK/DR
...
> JK = Jan Kruse
This 1-page gag is NOT written by Jan Kruse. And most of the other
stories are probably not by him either (in spite of what the Gladstone
credits say).
"*I* don't trust any other guy's index"! 8-)
> I'll send you an update [of special Rosa work] by private mail, if you
> remind me.
OK. This is a reminder.
>> LVD:
>> I've red "The Piedpiper ..." story several times, but never noticed that
>> this guy looking out the window should be LVD.
> The board above him says "VON DRAKE LABORATORIES"...
> *Yes*, they (or Don?) mispelled it in the comicbook, *van* Drake, I mean.
Noone misspelled. Ludwig's name *is* Von Drake.
> "Effort"?? You call it an effort to index three issues??! Gosh!
Have you ever tried doing it yourself?
JAKOB (October 19):
> So I'm now re-sending this mega-reply in three shorter parts,
> so that nothing (human nor computer) at Uppsala Universitet spoils it
> again.
You are saying here that Per (a human at Uppsala) is *spoiling* your
messages? Go wash your mouth.
HARALD (October 19):
> "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"
I know this one, but with "would" in stead of "could". Should could be would?
KRITON (October 20):
> I'd like to index the *two* issues of "Comics" that I have (and keep on
> doing so for future issues, of course), but the description of the database
> format in file "format.legend" is extremely confusing.
I'm aware of the fact that format.legend is not easy to read. I have had
troubles explaining what the database looks like. Maybe someone else
(Jonathan?) can write an article in clear English about the layout of
the database?
(Format.legend can be considered for the more advanced reader. *All* database
features and formats should be described there.)
Anyway, I think looking at examples is the best way to see what we expect
of an index. Look at the Gladstone files (gl*.issues). Then make a similar
index for the Greek. Then send it to me in private mail.
Or, simply discuss this with me in private mail. I think I can answer any
questions you may have.
DWIGHT (October 20):
> I recently received my copy of Anders And (the weekly Danish
> Donald Duck comic) for 17 Oktober (no. 42/96). Packaged with
> it as a separate supplement was a Danish translation of the
> Dutch-produced Donald Duck story H8841), published here as
> "The Last Voyage of Ringtail van Dukke" (Donald Duck Adventures
> #39). [...] The supplement also used the Daan Jippes
> cover seen on the Gladstone version, though I don't know if Jippes
> drew that especially for Gladstone or had drawn it for the Dutch
> publisher originally.
Jippes drew that cover for the Dutch publisher. And it was totally unrelated
with the story! The cover was published one week *after* the last part of
the story.
FABRIZIO (October 22):
> The M. Borlotti/F. Stajano's review of the F.Fossati index contains all
> the first 1406 issues of "Topolino", the most important Italian comic.
> Why don't you put it in the database in a (still missing) Italy folder ?
> So far, it is only available as "I-coded-stories" in the stories
> folder.
Because the list only contains the *original* stories (Italian stories) in
those Topolino issues. Topolino also contained a lot of reprints from
USA and other countries. Once we have complete contents of Italian issues,
there will be an "italy" folder in the database.
(For the 80s, Miroslav indexed the complete contents. At this moment,
Ole Reichstein is converting this information to Database format.)
(That's it...)
--Harry.
"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum"
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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #239
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Author
Topic: 199611
(342 messages)
Harry Fluks
The past few weeks
Message 1 -
1996-11-01 at 11:15:34
Ole R. Nielsen
Italian work in progress
Message 2 -
1996-11-01 at 14:01:42
About the Italian Topolino issue index:
I am indeed making some progress (and have some new abbrevs for
you, Harry!) but due to the somewhat poor state of the data -
at least in the version I'm working on - it's hard to know
which entries are actual stories and which are plastic thingies
that go with the issue! OK, so my Italian isn't exactly perfect.
The index BTW runs all the way from issue 1 to issue 2100-something,
but the earlier part is less complete regarding creator data than
the Fossati index. Thus they would have to be joined too.
I also got a Paperinik ("Super-Duck") index from Sven-Oliver -
thank you - which may or may not be helpful in this work.
First I need to get it down on a floppy and home before I
can guess about that, but I will get back to you, Sven-O, in
personal mail. Would Jacob Sparre please send me his index too?
I was too slow in getting it from his homepage, and now it seems
to have disappeared...
The christmas exams are drawing near, so I don't have too much
time on my hands, but when I do get a Topolino index into a
nice format, I need a volunteer with better skills in present
day Roman dialect to weed out the typos. Who's game?
Correction to Harry's Latin (quoted by memory from Asterix):
"Vir prudens non contra ventum pinxit"
-- Ole
I am indeed making some progress (and have some new abbrevs for
you, Harry!) but due to the somewhat poor state of the data -
at least in the version I'm working on - it's hard to know
which entries are actual stories and which are plastic thingies
that go with the issue! OK, so my Italian isn't exactly perfect.
The index BTW runs all the way from issue 1 to issue 2100-something,
but the earlier part is less complete regarding creator data than
the Fossati index. Thus they would have to be joined too.
I also got a Paperinik ("Super-Duck") index from Sven-Oliver -
thank you - which may or may not be helpful in this work.
First I need to get it down on a floppy and home before I
can guess about that, but I will get back to you, Sven-O, in
personal mail. Would Jacob Sparre please send me his index too?
I was too slow in getting it from his homepage, and now it seems
to have disappeared...
The christmas exams are drawing near, so I don't have too much
time on my hands, but when I do get a Topolino index into a
nice format, I need a volunteer with better skills in present
day Roman dialect to weed out the typos. Who's game?
Correction to Harry's Latin (quoted by memory from Asterix):
"Vir prudens non contra ventum pinxit"
-- Ole
Harald Havas
Disney comics Digest V96 #239
Message 3 -
1996-11-01 at 15:58:47
DAVID
>One oddity -- you call the #29/96 weekly "Disney and Friends". Is
>this a typo for "Mickey and Friends"? If it really is called "Disney and
>Friends," perhaps the comic was briefly off the market while they renamed
>it?
Ooops... yeah, it's "Mickey and Friends" all right (but has
"Disney's..." on top which seems to have confused me.)
>Anyway, enough of that... what's in the comic? ;-)
H/DD/7804 - "Cat and Mouse Game" - Magicka as a mouse
in $crooge's bin
D 92552 - "Dentist Date" MM and Goofy go to the dentists (a really
funny one!)
D 95162 _ "A Head for Buisness" part 2 - Tricked $crooge returns from
an Island - funniest bit: he wants to signal for help with his coat
over a fire - and out falls his mobile phone!
D92171 - "A Fish Called Walter" - The BB kidnap a precious fish, the
story just recently appeared in a German "Micky Maus"
D93399 - "Adjusting the Game" M&G play badminton (one-pager)
AND two _Gyro_-strips: 1993/3-13 and 1991/8-21 - I never knew there
was such a beast!
DANIEL
Della (and husband) can't (re)appear: or there wouldn't be a reason
left why HDL should have to stay with Unca Donald...
HARRY
>W DG 53 = Donald Duck Merry Christmas [date:61-12] [inx:KCr]
>W DG 53-03 6 TS JLi LVD T:Two And One Make Tree
>| w : CPGP 91
>| se : 62-52
Another step nearer to the *truth*! Could somebody please look this
story up and see, if LVD mentions his origins therein? There should
be a panel, where he states something like "Of course my tree will
have the most style, because I'm -------" (="from Vienna" in the
German version, "a genius" in the Italian...)
>> "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"
>I know this one, but with "would" in stead of "could". Should could be would?
I would prefer would too, but English experts tell me that would
would be bad or even wrong grammar, so I would rather use could...
BTW: I know a _working_ possibility to utter "had" 11(!) times in a
row in a (well two) English sentences with only some words before
and after them. Anybody interested? ;-)
>"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum"
"Vienna ventosa vel venenosa"
Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
>One oddity -- you call the #29/96 weekly "Disney and Friends". Is
>this a typo for "Mickey and Friends"? If it really is called "Disney and
>Friends," perhaps the comic was briefly off the market while they renamed
>it?
Ooops... yeah, it's "Mickey and Friends" all right (but has
"Disney's..." on top which seems to have confused me.)
>Anyway, enough of that... what's in the comic? ;-)
H/DD/7804 - "Cat and Mouse Game" - Magicka as a mouse
in $crooge's bin
D 92552 - "Dentist Date" MM and Goofy go to the dentists (a really
funny one!)
D 95162 _ "A Head for Buisness" part 2 - Tricked $crooge returns from
an Island - funniest bit: he wants to signal for help with his coat
over a fire - and out falls his mobile phone!
D92171 - "A Fish Called Walter" - The BB kidnap a precious fish, the
story just recently appeared in a German "Micky Maus"
D93399 - "Adjusting the Game" M&G play badminton (one-pager)
AND two _Gyro_-strips: 1993/3-13 and 1991/8-21 - I never knew there
was such a beast!
DANIEL
Della (and husband) can't (re)appear: or there wouldn't be a reason
left why HDL should have to stay with Unca Donald...
HARRY
>W DG 53 = Donald Duck Merry Christmas [date:61-12] [inx:KCr]
>W DG 53-03 6 TS JLi LVD T:Two And One Make Tree
>| w : CPGP 91
>| se : 62-52
Another step nearer to the *truth*! Could somebody please look this
story up and see, if LVD mentions his origins therein? There should
be a panel, where he states something like "Of course my tree will
have the most style, because I'm -------" (="from Vienna" in the
German version, "a genius" in the Italian...)
>> "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"
>I know this one, but with "would" in stead of "could". Should could be would?
I would prefer would too, but English experts tell me that would
would be bad or even wrong grammar, so I would rather use could...
BTW: I know a _working_ possibility to utter "had" 11(!) times in a
row in a (well two) English sentences with only some words before
and after them. Anybody interested? ;-)
>"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum"
"Vienna ventosa vel venenosa"
Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #239
Message 4 -
1996-11-01 at 16:03:16
DAN KENNY:
"a pioneer like Rosa"? Puh-lease! I'm surely one of the world's most recent
Duck writers or artists!
As for doing a story where $crooge's long-lost sisters return, or where
HD&L's parents are found... I suggested $crooge's sisters as the focus of
the $crooge 50th Anniversary story that, in fact, I expect to finish
pencilling TODAY... but Byron nixed that idea for various good reasons. I'm
sure I'll get to that one someday. As for HD&L's parents, we've thought
about that for 9 years, but I don't think we'll ever mess with it since
there is no possible happy or even satisfying UNhappy ending that it can
have. (And it seems like I mentioned this just a week or two ago...) A) They
are found and HD&L go to live with them and leave Unca Donald -- sad. B)
They are found and HD&L decide to disown them or something so they can stay
with Unca Donald -- sad and weird. C) They are found after 60n years and
then lost again -- very sad! D) They are found DEAD -- rilly, rilly sad! E)
They aren't found at all -- so whatsa point? Maybe I'll think of an F or a G
someday and think about it again, but I doubt it. It's like me trying to
write the story of how $crooge died in 1967... I'd never attempt it since
I'd never be happy with the results.
"a pioneer like Rosa"? Puh-lease! I'm surely one of the world's most recent
Duck writers or artists!
As for doing a story where $crooge's long-lost sisters return, or where
HD&L's parents are found... I suggested $crooge's sisters as the focus of
the $crooge 50th Anniversary story that, in fact, I expect to finish
pencilling TODAY... but Byron nixed that idea for various good reasons. I'm
sure I'll get to that one someday. As for HD&L's parents, we've thought
about that for 9 years, but I don't think we'll ever mess with it since
there is no possible happy or even satisfying UNhappy ending that it can
have. (And it seems like I mentioned this just a week or two ago...) A) They
are found and HD&L go to live with them and leave Unca Donald -- sad. B)
They are found and HD&L decide to disown them or something so they can stay
with Unca Donald -- sad and weird. C) They are found after 60n years and
then lost again -- very sad! D) They are found DEAD -- rilly, rilly sad! E)
They aren't found at all -- so whatsa point? Maybe I'll think of an F or a G
someday and think about it again, but I doubt it. It's like me trying to
write the story of how $crooge died in 1967... I'd never attempt it since
I'd never be happy with the results.
Markoff
British Disney comics
Message 5 -
1996-11-01 at 17:43:32
DAVID, HARALD:
Here is a list of British Disney comics I have. Maybe it can provide the
missing pieces of your puzzle. I copied the file in the database, so anyone
who can't access it can see what those files look like.
D = Disney
D 149 [date:89] [inx:JMa]
D 149a 1 c@ GO O:is fishing and hooks a drain
| plug
D 149b D 8370 10 Tel GO Goes West
D 149c D 9416 5 LW Shock Tactics
D 149d D 9718 6 VR DD An Ideal Home Expectation
D 156 [date:89] [inx:JMa]
D 156a 1 c@ DD Merry Christmas! [app:DA,HDL,MF,
| MM,Tinkerbell,US]
D 156b D 8694 6 GO His Wonderful Lamp
D 156c D 9570 6 BB The Perfect Crime
D 156d D 9994 1 MM Snowed In [app:MF,PL]
D 156e D 7906 6 LW A Ham in Hand
D 161 [date:90] [inx:JMa]
D 161a 1 c@ DD Fashion Show [app:DD,MI,PL]
D 161b D 89023 7 MM Now You See Him [app:O'Hara,
| Pete,Scuttle,CL,HH,MF,MI,PL]
| [part:1]
D 161c D 88079 6 GD An Old Trick
D 161d D 88019 8 JSu DBr US Better Safe Than Sorry [plot:Les
| Clack] [app:BB]
D 162 [date:90] [inx:JMa]
D 162a 1 c@ MM O:in the rain
D 162b D 88110 10 VR DD The Night Stalker
D 162c D 9880 5 SG Absolutely Nuts [app:Gilbert]
D 162d D 89023 6 MM Now You See Him [app:O'Hara,
| Pete,Scuttle,CL,HH,MF,MI,PL]
| [part:2]
DW = Disney Weekly
DW 14 [inx:JMa] [comment:1990 or later]
DW 14a 1 c@ MM O:wears Disney Babies shirt
DW 14b D 88175 10 BFB Egyptian Treasure
DW 14c D 88234 10 VR DD Joins the Race [app:GY]
NOTE FOR NON-DATABASE-USERS:
Anything with a @ sign next to it means we don't know its code. D 8370
("Goofy Goes West") was reprinted in the USA in Goofy Adventures 17 (1991)
as "Goofy thuh Kid Rodes Again." D 88019 ("Better Safe Than Sorry") appeared
in US 264 (1992).
HERO ABBREVIATIONS:
DD, MM, US, HDL, and BB are obvious. CL is Clarabelle Cow, GO is Goofy, HH
is Horace Horsecollar, MF is Morty & Ferdie, PL is Pluto, GD is Grandma
Duck, GY is Gyro, SG is Super Goof, LW is Lil Bad Wolf. BFB is Basil From
Baker Street, who comes from the movie "The Great Mouse Detective" (1986?).
HARRY:
I think I'd better re-describe the covers: D 149 looks like Tello's art. D
156 looks like Branca and MM is a more obvious hero than DD. The db leaves
Tinkerbell unabbreviated (it should be TB), and MF should be Morty. 161
should be [hero:DD,MI,PL].
--Jonathan
Here is a list of British Disney comics I have. Maybe it can provide the
missing pieces of your puzzle. I copied the file in the database, so anyone
who can't access it can see what those files look like.
D = Disney
D 149 [date:89] [inx:JMa]
D 149a 1 c@ GO O:is fishing and hooks a drain
| plug
D 149b D 8370 10 Tel GO Goes West
D 149c D 9416 5 LW Shock Tactics
D 149d D 9718 6 VR DD An Ideal Home Expectation
D 156 [date:89] [inx:JMa]
D 156a 1 c@ DD Merry Christmas! [app:DA,HDL,MF,
| MM,Tinkerbell,US]
D 156b D 8694 6 GO His Wonderful Lamp
D 156c D 9570 6 BB The Perfect Crime
D 156d D 9994 1 MM Snowed In [app:MF,PL]
D 156e D 7906 6 LW A Ham in Hand
D 161 [date:90] [inx:JMa]
D 161a 1 c@ DD Fashion Show [app:DD,MI,PL]
D 161b D 89023 7 MM Now You See Him [app:O'Hara,
| Pete,Scuttle,CL,HH,MF,MI,PL]
| [part:1]
D 161c D 88079 6 GD An Old Trick
D 161d D 88019 8 JSu DBr US Better Safe Than Sorry [plot:Les
| Clack] [app:BB]
D 162 [date:90] [inx:JMa]
D 162a 1 c@ MM O:in the rain
D 162b D 88110 10 VR DD The Night Stalker
D 162c D 9880 5 SG Absolutely Nuts [app:Gilbert]
D 162d D 89023 6 MM Now You See Him [app:O'Hara,
| Pete,Scuttle,CL,HH,MF,MI,PL]
| [part:2]
DW = Disney Weekly
DW 14 [inx:JMa] [comment:1990 or later]
DW 14a 1 c@ MM O:wears Disney Babies shirt
DW 14b D 88175 10 BFB Egyptian Treasure
DW 14c D 88234 10 VR DD Joins the Race [app:GY]
NOTE FOR NON-DATABASE-USERS:
Anything with a @ sign next to it means we don't know its code. D 8370
("Goofy Goes West") was reprinted in the USA in Goofy Adventures 17 (1991)
as "Goofy thuh Kid Rodes Again." D 88019 ("Better Safe Than Sorry") appeared
in US 264 (1992).
HERO ABBREVIATIONS:
DD, MM, US, HDL, and BB are obvious. CL is Clarabelle Cow, GO is Goofy, HH
is Horace Horsecollar, MF is Morty & Ferdie, PL is Pluto, GD is Grandma
Duck, GY is Gyro, SG is Super Goof, LW is Lil Bad Wolf. BFB is Basil From
Baker Street, who comes from the movie "The Great Mouse Detective" (1986?).
HARRY:
I think I'd better re-describe the covers: D 149 looks like Tello's art. D
156 looks like Branca and MM is a more obvious hero than DD. The db leaves
Tinkerbell unabbreviated (it should be TB), and MF should be Morty. 161
should be [hero:DD,MI,PL].
--Jonathan
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #239
Message 6 -
1996-11-01 at 18:51:11
HARRY:
>The albums "US Adventures in Color" can be considered a part of the second
>CBL, though they have no "CBL" in their name (why not?).
The term "library" ran afoul of an interpretation of second class mailing
regulations by a new grand poobah recently installed at the Prescott branch
of the US Postal Service. Such an interpretation was not in effect during
the run of the WDC and DDA album series.
DAVID:
Could be. I've been going rather hard at this code number business partly
because I fear Gladstone's going to be increasingly called to answer for
"inaccuracies" due to entries in databases we had no part in compiling.
Then again, maybe I should just accept the inevitable.
Gary
------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
------------------------------------------------
>The albums "US Adventures in Color" can be considered a part of the second
>CBL, though they have no "CBL" in their name (why not?).
The term "library" ran afoul of an interpretation of second class mailing
regulations by a new grand poobah recently installed at the Prescott branch
of the US Postal Service. Such an interpretation was not in effect during
the run of the WDC and DDA album series.
DAVID:
Could be. I've been going rather hard at this code number business partly
because I fear Gladstone's going to be increasingly called to answer for
"inaccuracies" due to entries in databases we had no part in compiling.
Then again, maybe I should just accept the inevitable.
Gary
------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
------------------------------------------------
Michael Naiman
Ink bottle
Message 7 -
1996-11-01 at 19:03:23
To keep within the true spirit of the bidding, I'll make that $3.13!!!
Harry Fluks
Vanity
Message 8 -
1996-11-01 at 20:02:23
It seems that this month's Gladstone comics have a lot of mailing list
members in them:
WDC #607 has letters by Arthur de Wolf and "Jonathon" Markoff
(I never realised you live in Vienna, Jonathan! Ever seen a Von Drake there? 8-)
and "Victor Loftus via e-mail". Victor may be a lurking member of this list.
Donald Duck #300 has (tadaaa...) *my* name on page 6 of the opening
story. Wow! I'm famous now! 8-)
"Cleaner ducks scrub with Fluks". Another proof that my name rhymes
with "ducks"...
BTW: that opening story was originally written by Evert Geradts. The Dutch
version had "Flux" in it, named after the soap called "Lux".
OLE:
> About the Italian Topolino issue index:
> The index runs all the way from issue 1 to issue 2100-something,
> but the earlier part is less complete regarding creator data than
> the Fossati index. Thus they would have to be joined too.
It's sufficient to list the code numbers from the Fossati index. My program
will do the rest (add credits, page counts, etc.)
> I also got a Paperinik ("Super-Duck") index from Sven-Oliver
The data of this index is more useful for the i-coded.stories index (listing appearances
of the PK character). So we could use Sven-Oliver's index after Frank Stajano
has *really* finished converting the Fossati index. This may take some time...
> Correction to Harry's Latin (quoted by memory from Asterix):
> "Vir prudens non contra ventum pinxit"
My quote, "Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum", was not from an Asterix
story. In fact, it's on a building in Amsterdam. (David Gerstein can confirm
that, there's a pancake/pizza restaurant on the opposite side of the street. 8-)
GARY:
> I've been going rather hard at this code number business partly
> because I fear Gladstone's going to be increasingly called to answer for
> "inaccuracies" due to entries in databases we had no part in compiling.
If I understand well, we shouldn't fall over wrong codes, since story codes
were not meant for ordinary readers. OK. So from now on, we'll only
mention the wrong *credits* of a story...
--Harry.
members in them:
WDC #607 has letters by Arthur de Wolf and "Jonathon" Markoff
(I never realised you live in Vienna, Jonathan! Ever seen a Von Drake there? 8-)
and "Victor Loftus via e-mail". Victor may be a lurking member of this list.
Donald Duck #300 has (tadaaa...) *my* name on page 6 of the opening
story. Wow! I'm famous now! 8-)
"Cleaner ducks scrub with Fluks". Another proof that my name rhymes
with "ducks"...
BTW: that opening story was originally written by Evert Geradts. The Dutch
version had "Flux" in it, named after the soap called "Lux".
OLE:
> About the Italian Topolino issue index:
> The index runs all the way from issue 1 to issue 2100-something,
> but the earlier part is less complete regarding creator data than
> the Fossati index. Thus they would have to be joined too.
It's sufficient to list the code numbers from the Fossati index. My program
will do the rest (add credits, page counts, etc.)
> I also got a Paperinik ("Super-Duck") index from Sven-Oliver
The data of this index is more useful for the i-coded.stories index (listing appearances
of the PK character). So we could use Sven-Oliver's index after Frank Stajano
has *really* finished converting the Fossati index. This may take some time...
> Correction to Harry's Latin (quoted by memory from Asterix):
> "Vir prudens non contra ventum pinxit"
My quote, "Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum", was not from an Asterix
story. In fact, it's on a building in Amsterdam. (David Gerstein can confirm
that, there's a pancake/pizza restaurant on the opposite side of the street. 8-)
GARY:
> I've been going rather hard at this code number business partly
> because I fear Gladstone's going to be increasingly called to answer for
> "inaccuracies" due to entries in databases we had no part in compiling.
If I understand well, we shouldn't fall over wrong codes, since story codes
were not meant for ordinary readers. OK. So from now on, we'll only
mention the wrong *credits* of a story...
--Harry.
Arthur De Wolf
Several comments
Message 9 -
1996-11-01 at 23:07:48
Hi!
HARRY FLUKS:
Welcome back!
> WDC #607 has letters by Arthur de Wolf and Jonathan [...]
What? That's great! It's the first time that a letter of me is
printed in a comic! But then again, it's also the first time that I
write a letter to a comic! ;-) I better rush to my comicshop and
see if they have the issue yet!
ALL:
Can anyone tell me if there are Barks stories taking place
in France? I can't think of any myself, at the moment!
MICHAEL NAIMAN:
> ... the true spirit of the bidding, I'll make that $3.13!!!
Wow! I don't have any more money, but I will bid $3.13 plus all the
color tv's that can be found in Brutopia! ;-)
Can anyone guess from which Barks story that is?
DON ROSA:
> As for HD&L's parents [...]
Does that mean that you apart from the thing you said in the text
with your Family tree in WDC&S#600:
"Finally, last but not least by a jugful, we come to Heuey,
Dewey and Louie's FATHER! But THAT is a revelation that I decided
to deal with at a later date when you LEAST expect it!"
HARALD HAVAS:
> Ooops... yeah, it's "Mickey and Friends" all right (but
> has "Disney's..." on top which seems to have confused me.)
I guess everyone here know this already, but I thought it was fun when
I read it only a couple of weeks ago! I was in fact surprised to read
this. Maybe others are too, so I will write it here:
Did you know this about the use of Disney vs. Disney's?
Attributing titles to Walt Disney involves choosing the correct
nomenclature. The words "Walt Disney's", "Walt Disney's classics"
and "Disney's Classics" apply to all features and characters created
before Walt Disney's death in December, 1966. The last feature falling
under this category is 'The Aristocats'. Any feature or character
created after his death must bear the logo "Disney's" or "Walt Disney"
without the apastrophe "s".
This probably sounds obvious for all you experts out there,
but I didn't know this until some weeks ago, and maybe others don't
either!
HARRY FLUKS:
>> I haven't even seen ONE single American Disney comic.
> They were on one place.
Yeah, but there were no 'older' American Disney comics of more than a
couple of years old!
DAVID GERSTEIN:
> When I lived in Scotland a year ago, there was [...]
A new British Disney magazine was launched two weeks ago. It is
called "Disney's Big Time" and is much like American "Disney
Adventures" (but a completly different size): lots of articles
about movies and music-stars and only a few stories like
those of Timon & Pumbaa and Bonkers! <Euch!>
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
HARRY FLUKS:
Welcome back!
> WDC #607 has letters by Arthur de Wolf and Jonathan [...]
What? That's great! It's the first time that a letter of me is
printed in a comic! But then again, it's also the first time that I
write a letter to a comic! ;-) I better rush to my comicshop and
see if they have the issue yet!
ALL:
Can anyone tell me if there are Barks stories taking place
in France? I can't think of any myself, at the moment!
MICHAEL NAIMAN:
> ... the true spirit of the bidding, I'll make that $3.13!!!
Wow! I don't have any more money, but I will bid $3.13 plus all the
color tv's that can be found in Brutopia! ;-)
Can anyone guess from which Barks story that is?
DON ROSA:
> As for HD&L's parents [...]
Does that mean that you apart from the thing you said in the text
with your Family tree in WDC&S#600:
"Finally, last but not least by a jugful, we come to Heuey,
Dewey and Louie's FATHER! But THAT is a revelation that I decided
to deal with at a later date when you LEAST expect it!"
HARALD HAVAS:
> Ooops... yeah, it's "Mickey and Friends" all right (but
> has "Disney's..." on top which seems to have confused me.)
I guess everyone here know this already, but I thought it was fun when
I read it only a couple of weeks ago! I was in fact surprised to read
this. Maybe others are too, so I will write it here:
Did you know this about the use of Disney vs. Disney's?
Attributing titles to Walt Disney involves choosing the correct
nomenclature. The words "Walt Disney's", "Walt Disney's classics"
and "Disney's Classics" apply to all features and characters created
before Walt Disney's death in December, 1966. The last feature falling
under this category is 'The Aristocats'. Any feature or character
created after his death must bear the logo "Disney's" or "Walt Disney"
without the apastrophe "s".
This probably sounds obvious for all you experts out there,
but I didn't know this until some weeks ago, and maybe others don't
either!
HARRY FLUKS:
>> I haven't even seen ONE single American Disney comic.
> They were on one place.
Yeah, but there were no 'older' American Disney comics of more than a
couple of years old!
DAVID GERSTEIN:
> When I lived in Scotland a year ago, there was [...]
A new British Disney magazine was launched two weeks ago. It is
called "Disney's Big Time" and is much like American "Disney
Adventures" (but a completly different size): lots of articles
about movies and music-stars and only a few stories like
those of Timon & Pumbaa and Bonkers! <Euch!>
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Markoff
Vanity
Message 10 -
1996-11-01 at 23:15:02
HARRY:
>WDC #607 has letters by Arthur de Wolf and "Jonathon" Markoff
>(I never realised you live in Vienna, Jonathan! Ever seen a Von Drake
there? 8-)
>and "Victor Loftus via e-mail". Victor may be a lurking member of this list.
I've also seen these in letter columns:
Ove Johnsson <(Email removed)>
Frode Jensen <(Email removed)>
Frode Jensen mentions he lives right near where Carl Barks lives.
>If I understand well, we shouldn't fall over wrong codes, since story codes
>were not meant for ordinary readers. OK. So from now on, we'll only
>mention the wrong *credits* of a story...
Hey, I look at the D and H codes every time I get a new issue!
--Jonathan
>WDC #607 has letters by Arthur de Wolf and "Jonathon" Markoff
>(I never realised you live in Vienna, Jonathan! Ever seen a Von Drake
there? 8-)
>and "Victor Loftus via e-mail". Victor may be a lurking member of this list.
I've also seen these in letter columns:
Ove Johnsson <(Email removed)>
Frode Jensen <(Email removed)>
Frode Jensen mentions he lives right near where Carl Barks lives.
>If I understand well, we shouldn't fall over wrong codes, since story codes
>were not meant for ordinary readers. OK. So from now on, we'll only
>mention the wrong *credits* of a story...
Hey, I look at the D and H codes every time I get a new issue!
--Jonathan
Markoff
Several comments
Message 11 -
1996-11-02 at 01:16:33
>I better rush to my comicshop and
>see if they have the issue yet!
In the meantime, I'll have to wait for the subscription issue!
> Can anyone tell me if there are Barks stories taking place
>in France? I can't think of any myself, at the moment!
"Dangerous Disguise"!
>Does that mean that you apart from the thing you said in the text
>with your Family tree in WDC&S#600:
> "Finally, last but not least by a jugful, we come to Heuey,
>Dewey and Louie's FATHER! But THAT is a revelation that I decided
>to deal with at a later date when you LEAST expect it!"
Maybe Don is saying he won't do it just so we'll "LEAST expect it!"
> Did you know this about the use of Disney vs. Disney's?
>Attributing titles to Walt Disney involves choosing the correct
>nomenclature. The words "Walt Disney's", "Walt Disney's classics"
>and "Disney's Classics" apply to all features and characters created
>before Walt Disney's death in December, 1966. The last feature falling
>under this category is 'The Aristocats'. Any feature or character
>created after his death must bear the logo "Disney's" or "Walt Disney"
>without the apastrophe "s".
Huh? All the comic covers have the "'s"!
--Jonathan P. Markoff
>see if they have the issue yet!
In the meantime, I'll have to wait for the subscription issue!
> Can anyone tell me if there are Barks stories taking place
>in France? I can't think of any myself, at the moment!
"Dangerous Disguise"!
>Does that mean that you apart from the thing you said in the text
>with your Family tree in WDC&S#600:
> "Finally, last but not least by a jugful, we come to Heuey,
>Dewey and Louie's FATHER! But THAT is a revelation that I decided
>to deal with at a later date when you LEAST expect it!"
Maybe Don is saying he won't do it just so we'll "LEAST expect it!"
> Did you know this about the use of Disney vs. Disney's?
>Attributing titles to Walt Disney involves choosing the correct
>nomenclature. The words "Walt Disney's", "Walt Disney's classics"
>and "Disney's Classics" apply to all features and characters created
>before Walt Disney's death in December, 1966. The last feature falling
>under this category is 'The Aristocats'. Any feature or character
>created after his death must bear the logo "Disney's" or "Walt Disney"
>without the apastrophe "s".
Huh? All the comic covers have the "'s"!
--Jonathan P. Markoff
Arthur De Wolf
AW: Several comments
Message 12 -
1996-11-02 at 11:06:29
Hi!
JONATHAN MARKOFF:
> Huh? All the comic covers have the "'s"!
That's because the characters in those comics were created
before Walt Disney's death! If you'd take a look at the Marvel
comics, then those covers say: "Disney's Aladdin" and so on,
because they were created after Walt Disney's death! Same with,
for instance, the Darkwing Duck mini-series from Disney Comics!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
JONATHAN MARKOFF:
> Huh? All the comic covers have the "'s"!
That's because the characters in those comics were created
before Walt Disney's death! If you'd take a look at the Marvel
comics, then those covers say: "Disney's Aladdin" and so on,
because they were created after Walt Disney's death! Same with,
for instance, the Darkwing Duck mini-series from Disney Comics!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Markoff
Dismal Swamp
Message 13 -
1996-11-03 at 05:22:43
DON:
Remember when you wanted a list of Duckburg landmarks in September? Did
anyone mention Dismal Swamp (WDC 216 and U$ 57)?
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #240
******************************************
Remember when you wanted a list of Duckburg landmarks in September? Did
anyone mention Dismal Swamp (WDC 216 and U$ 57)?
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #240
******************************************
Dave Rawson
Woodchucks, "disappeared" characters, and Funny Animals
Message 14 -
1996-11-03 at 05:53:29
Harry Fluks <(Email removed)>:
HF> I'm back from 15 days holiday in Israel and Jordan (and Palestine,
HF> too). With very sunny weather, I saw a lot of ancient things from
HF> B.C. (Before Christ) to A.D. (After Dwight).
Lucky you! Glad to have you back.
HF> HARALD (October 19):
HF>> "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck
HF>> wood?"
HF>
HF> I know this one, but with "would" in stead of "could". Should could
HF> be would?
Very clever! To answer, could should not be would. The question revolves
around inate ability, rather than desire, so "could" is proper,
regardless of the woodchuck's desire, which would call for "would." I've
always loved this tounge-twister because of the sounds of the words and
and their ironic and conflicted meaning. When I was seven, I added the
following answer to my recitation: "He would chuck as much wood as a
woodchuck could, if a woodchuck could chuck wood."
Re: Disappeared Characters, and Funny Animals
I just received the cracker-jack art by Rodriquez for "One of a Kind"
[D92281] a children's primer on corporate junk-bond dealers featuring
full-on weasels as the antagonists thwarting Scrooge's desire for
another jar of Mother Mallard's Marmalade, his favorite. The story opens
with Scrooge's butler attending the old duck's breakfast needs.
Later, a bantam rooster is featured as a sidekick to the matronly
mallard, and a stork, a bulldog, a cat, and a wonderful ostrich are
visible in crowd scenes, while regular and dog-eared humans provide a
supporting cast.
I guess I'm too much of an iconoclast to draw firm boundaries around
character usage. Again, my guiding thought is: "Whatever serves the
story." I love using buzzards or weasels or rats as particularly
despicable rougues. I think this comes from when I was introduced to
funny animal comics. I spent the summer on my cousin's farm and they had
a stack of comics -- lots of ducks and mice and a few western-genre and
some weird surreal Little Lulu comics, but they also had Woody
Woodpecker and Oswald Rabbit.
I used to love to see how an artist would incorporate various fauna into
antropomorphic form and kept looking for new animal types. Chilly Willy
was cute. So was Lil' Wolf. Particularly innocent-looking were robins
and sparrows. Most boisterous were crested birds like cardinals and
jays. (Thus my creation of Red O'Ruckus, a crested cardinal
country-and-western swing band leader, which David Gerstein has
expressed interest in using.)
At any rate, it's remarkable the range of personal interests and choices
we creators make, and I think the fans are so much the better for the
range of stories we choose to tell. Be it John Lustig, or David
Gerstein, or Pat and Shelly Block, William van Horn, Don Rosa or myself,
we each bring different sensibilities to the work and to the world we
populate for the readers.
Back to "One of a Kind" for a moment. As you can see the by 92xxx code,
I wrote this story long ago, and had assumed the script had gone into
the great circular editorial file in the sky. For those (happily)
unfamiliar with junk-bond financiers, they work like this:
Get together a bunch of really wealthy folks with no morals. Pool your
resources. Buy control of a venerable company with valuable long-term
assets. Rape the company's future by selling off all its assets
piecemeal. The sum-total of the liquidated assets will be greater than
than the expenditure of funds needed to wrest control away from the
previous owners. The difference is profit. Divide the profit among the
investors, each according to their proportional contribution. Go your
seperate ways, fondly thumbing through the enormous bankroll you each
now clutch. Don't even cast a backward glance at the ruined company and
its long-time employees or their families. (Currently this is what
Maxxam is doing to Pacific Lumber. The long-term assets? Clear-cutting
previously managed 2,000 year-old redwoods.) The really sickening thing
is it isn't even good capitalism, since no real, tangible wealth is
created, only paper profit for the wealthy amoral plunderers.
I thought it would be fun for these pikers to cross Scrooge, and see
what might happen.
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
HF> I'm back from 15 days holiday in Israel and Jordan (and Palestine,
HF> too). With very sunny weather, I saw a lot of ancient things from
HF> B.C. (Before Christ) to A.D. (After Dwight).
Lucky you! Glad to have you back.
HF> HARALD (October 19):
HF>> "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck
HF>> wood?"
HF>
HF> I know this one, but with "would" in stead of "could". Should could
HF> be would?
Very clever! To answer, could should not be would. The question revolves
around inate ability, rather than desire, so "could" is proper,
regardless of the woodchuck's desire, which would call for "would." I've
always loved this tounge-twister because of the sounds of the words and
and their ironic and conflicted meaning. When I was seven, I added the
following answer to my recitation: "He would chuck as much wood as a
woodchuck could, if a woodchuck could chuck wood."
Re: Disappeared Characters, and Funny Animals
I just received the cracker-jack art by Rodriquez for "One of a Kind"
[D92281] a children's primer on corporate junk-bond dealers featuring
full-on weasels as the antagonists thwarting Scrooge's desire for
another jar of Mother Mallard's Marmalade, his favorite. The story opens
with Scrooge's butler attending the old duck's breakfast needs.
Later, a bantam rooster is featured as a sidekick to the matronly
mallard, and a stork, a bulldog, a cat, and a wonderful ostrich are
visible in crowd scenes, while regular and dog-eared humans provide a
supporting cast.
I guess I'm too much of an iconoclast to draw firm boundaries around
character usage. Again, my guiding thought is: "Whatever serves the
story." I love using buzzards or weasels or rats as particularly
despicable rougues. I think this comes from when I was introduced to
funny animal comics. I spent the summer on my cousin's farm and they had
a stack of comics -- lots of ducks and mice and a few western-genre and
some weird surreal Little Lulu comics, but they also had Woody
Woodpecker and Oswald Rabbit.
I used to love to see how an artist would incorporate various fauna into
antropomorphic form and kept looking for new animal types. Chilly Willy
was cute. So was Lil' Wolf. Particularly innocent-looking were robins
and sparrows. Most boisterous were crested birds like cardinals and
jays. (Thus my creation of Red O'Ruckus, a crested cardinal
country-and-western swing band leader, which David Gerstein has
expressed interest in using.)
At any rate, it's remarkable the range of personal interests and choices
we creators make, and I think the fans are so much the better for the
range of stories we choose to tell. Be it John Lustig, or David
Gerstein, or Pat and Shelly Block, William van Horn, Don Rosa or myself,
we each bring different sensibilities to the work and to the world we
populate for the readers.
Back to "One of a Kind" for a moment. As you can see the by 92xxx code,
I wrote this story long ago, and had assumed the script had gone into
the great circular editorial file in the sky. For those (happily)
unfamiliar with junk-bond financiers, they work like this:
Get together a bunch of really wealthy folks with no morals. Pool your
resources. Buy control of a venerable company with valuable long-term
assets. Rape the company's future by selling off all its assets
piecemeal. The sum-total of the liquidated assets will be greater than
than the expenditure of funds needed to wrest control away from the
previous owners. The difference is profit. Divide the profit among the
investors, each according to their proportional contribution. Go your
seperate ways, fondly thumbing through the enormous bankroll you each
now clutch. Don't even cast a backward glance at the ruined company and
its long-time employees or their families. (Currently this is what
Maxxam is doing to Pacific Lumber. The long-term assets? Clear-cutting
previously managed 2,000 year-old redwoods.) The really sickening thing
is it isn't even good capitalism, since no real, tangible wealth is
created, only paper profit for the wealthy amoral plunderers.
I thought it would be fun for these pikers to cross Scrooge, and see
what might happen.
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
James E. Smith III
Disney comics Digest V96 #240
Message 15 -
1996-11-03 at 06:47:32
Dear Don:
No matter what, not matter if it was sad, bitter, or whatever; we would
love your HDL parents story.
I did think you should have had more of a "reconciliation" between
Scrooge in his nephews in chapter 12 of Life of Scrooge. Somehow with
the Christmas motiff, it seemed appropriate.
James Smith III
Williston ND 58801
No matter what, not matter if it was sad, bitter, or whatever; we would
love your HDL parents story.
I did think you should have had more of a "reconciliation" between
Scrooge in his nephews in chapter 12 of Life of Scrooge. Somehow with
the Christmas motiff, it seemed appropriate.
James Smith III
Williston ND 58801