MARCO:
No, I would never join you in a campaign against the "evil translator" in
ZIO PAPERONE! That translator, unless things have changed, is editor Lidia
Canatella, who is responsible for the entire change in the look and contents
of ZP starting with #70. And she cares so much about the "Lo$" stories, she
told me once, that she wanted to find the time to translate them herself,
specifically to make certain that they were 100% in the spirit and precise
meaning of my original scripts. Now, if she misunderstands that spirit one
time every 37,591 words, I think I would gladly forgive her! The bit you've
described where she added my name into a balloon was her idea of a good
joke, and it is funny, but it misunderstands how seriously I take the
material or how one shouldn't ruin the suspension of disbelief when reading
a comic about people who are drawn as Ducks. So, please stop calling her the
"evil translator"... and call her the "well-intentioned, hard-working,
$crooge-loving translator-editor who only very rarely makes an error in
judgement".
HARRY:
Well, yes, Frank was here for 3 days over the weekend. He was mostly trying
to gather info for the book he and his friends are writing about me (!). And
I repaid his attention by getting a virus on Sunday that laid me fairly low,
which only happens to me about once every 2 years, and which I stupidly came
down with during his visit. But when he gets back home to Cambridge, ask him
on the Mailing List about his trip. I'll be curious to see what his
impressions were of his stay with me, hoping my illness didn't spoil much of
his research.
Author
Topic: 199611
(342 messages)
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #255
Message 211 -
1996-11-19 at 19:36:58
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V96 #255
Message 212 -
1996-11-19 at 19:55:35
SOEREN:
> Two or more issues ago, the topic of gravity and its influence on earth and/or
> molten/solid rock came up, mainly by our newcomer to the list (who's name I
> forgot right know, sorry)...
That's me I guess...
> and noticed the last line
> "The Niels Bohr Institute"
> ( And yes, I'm getting close to the point!):
I may have forgotten most of my physics, but I do remember Niels Bohr's name.
Wasn't he one of the pioneers of quantum theory?
(I'd better sign off, before we turn this list into a physics list!)
MARCO:
> >you know there really does exist a (nearly) universal solvent and that
> >it is quite common?
>
> Just to try a guess: is that <time> ?
This observation is remarkably in the spirit of one of the quotes in my
collection:
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"There are finer thieves than I. Time, for example. Eventually, it steals
everything."
-----
> Two or more issues ago, the topic of gravity and its influence on earth and/or
> molten/solid rock came up, mainly by our newcomer to the list (who's name I
> forgot right know, sorry)...
That's me I guess...
> and noticed the last line
> "The Niels Bohr Institute"
> ( And yes, I'm getting close to the point!):
I may have forgotten most of my physics, but I do remember Niels Bohr's name.
Wasn't he one of the pioneers of quantum theory?
(I'd better sign off, before we turn this list into a physics list!)
MARCO:
> >you know there really does exist a (nearly) universal solvent and that
> >it is quite common?
>
> Just to try a guess: is that <time> ?
This observation is remarkably in the spirit of one of the quotes in my
collection:
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"There are finer thieves than I. Time, for example. Eventually, it steals
everything."
-----
Harald Havas
"Don" in Oscar-movie!
Message 213 -
1996-11-19 at 21:13:54
DON ROSA TWIN
If you go and see/rent "Antonia's World" the Dutch Oscar winning
film, you can spot a Don Rosa (very!) look-alike. It's the bookworm
character of "Crooked Finger"(= translated from German
translation). BTW you all should go and see the film anyway because
it's incredible, heart-warming and brilliant.
But, all you poor American would have to be - what? - 25? to see it,
since it contains *gasp* nudity! And (loving, touching) sex-scenes
too! Even between women! Hmmm... maybe it has been banned in the
US after receiving the Oscar? ;-)
[sarcastic mode off]
No, really, brilliant stuff!
SOEREN
Err... sorry to disappoint you... but there is no scientist by the
name of "Zahn"! That is just a joke. Niels Bohr OTOH existed for
real, very much soo in fact...
BTW an "oil-puping-tower" is a "derrick"!
(Which is grat fun for Germans since "Derrick" is one of the oldest
- and most boring - crime-TV-series we have... ;-)
VILLE
>The real (Barks/Rosa) Glomgold lives in South Africa and does not
look scottish. Then there is Ducktales Glomgold, who looks completely
different, has long beard, wears kilt and seems to be living in
Scotland.<
Hmm... in my character cards book (I knew it would come in handy some
time!) a picture of the first Glomgold appearance in German "Micky
Maus" is shown. There he wears a black suit AND beard AND a
distinctive scottish looking cap. And this panel (1960) is surely
Barks! (Scrooge is just struck down by Glomgold's glove).
So if no Dutch member tells me this cap is tipical Boor, then my
question stands...
Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
If you go and see/rent "Antonia's World" the Dutch Oscar winning
film, you can spot a Don Rosa (very!) look-alike. It's the bookworm
character of "Crooked Finger"(= translated from German
translation). BTW you all should go and see the film anyway because
it's incredible, heart-warming and brilliant.
But, all you poor American would have to be - what? - 25? to see it,
since it contains *gasp* nudity! And (loving, touching) sex-scenes
too! Even between women! Hmmm... maybe it has been banned in the
US after receiving the Oscar? ;-)
[sarcastic mode off]
No, really, brilliant stuff!
SOEREN
Err... sorry to disappoint you... but there is no scientist by the
name of "Zahn"! That is just a joke. Niels Bohr OTOH existed for
real, very much soo in fact...
BTW an "oil-puping-tower" is a "derrick"!
(Which is grat fun for Germans since "Derrick" is one of the oldest
- and most boring - crime-TV-series we have... ;-)
VILLE
>The real (Barks/Rosa) Glomgold lives in South Africa and does not
look scottish. Then there is Ducktales Glomgold, who looks completely
different, has long beard, wears kilt and seems to be living in
Scotland.<
Hmm... in my character cards book (I knew it would come in handy some
time!) a picture of the first Glomgold appearance in German "Micky
Maus" is shown. There he wears a black suit AND beard AND a
distinctive scottish looking cap. And this panel (1960) is surely
Barks! (Scrooge is just struck down by Glomgold's glove).
So if no Dutch member tells me this cap is tipical Boor, then my
question stands...
Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
Eric Chun
(No subject)
Message 214 -
1996-11-19 at 22:35:04
> few people can identify with someone like Mickey, who has an exotic
> adventure on every alternate Tuesday, and excels in most human acti-
> vities. (How many people do you know that have travelled the world,
> can pilot an airplane, are former members of the US secret service,
> have published their own newspaper, are regularly consulted by the
> police, and have saved the world on more than one occasion?)
The very fact that Mickey could do everything, went on grand adven-
tures, and was a hero, made Gottfredson's stories really great!
They're exciting to read and, at the same time, humorous and express-
ive. Sometimes, people want to read about exploits that are larger
than life.
Mickey was a likeable guy who never had an unkind word for anyone,
and who always tried to do what's right. Perhaps this gave him less
of a diverse personality (and therefore less of a reading audience)
than other characters who more closely mirror real life, such as Don-
ald (just a humble, bumbling duck, who sometimes has temper tantrums).
After Gottfredson, however, Mickey's stories seem to have lost a dab
of their charm. Good writers and artists are desperately needed to
revive his stories. Any volunteers?!?
Have a great day!
Eric
(_) (_)
( OO)
o
> adventure on every alternate Tuesday, and excels in most human acti-
> vities. (How many people do you know that have travelled the world,
> can pilot an airplane, are former members of the US secret service,
> have published their own newspaper, are regularly consulted by the
> police, and have saved the world on more than one occasion?)
The very fact that Mickey could do everything, went on grand adven-
tures, and was a hero, made Gottfredson's stories really great!
They're exciting to read and, at the same time, humorous and express-
ive. Sometimes, people want to read about exploits that are larger
than life.
Mickey was a likeable guy who never had an unkind word for anyone,
and who always tried to do what's right. Perhaps this gave him less
of a diverse personality (and therefore less of a reading audience)
than other characters who more closely mirror real life, such as Don-
ald (just a humble, bumbling duck, who sometimes has temper tantrums).
After Gottfredson, however, Mickey's stories seem to have lost a dab
of their charm. Good writers and artists are desperately needed to
revive his stories. Any volunteers?!?
Have a great day!
Eric
(_) (_)
( OO)
o
Fredrik Ekman
Off-topic Burroughs discussion - feel free to skip
Message 215 -
1996-11-19 at 23:26:52
Dwight wrote:
> Burroughs is a writer that if you're over 16 you're probably too old
> for him
Please allow me to disagree. Sure, Burroughs has many faults, including
being extremely "un-scientific", a sexist and an impretialistic racist.
However, I would claim that his merits far outweigh his faults.
You must realize when reading Burroughs that he wrote only for the porpose
of entertainment. His heroes are heroic, his heroines are feminine and his
plots are fast-paced in the extreme. His books are always exciting but
rarely realistic. Perhaps the best thing about Burroughs, however, is his
language, which is anything but childish. Rich, vivid and imaginative.
His books were among the very first "space operas", thereby paving the way
for such movies as Star Wars.
I recommend reading Burroughs, but be prepared for pure escapist
entertainment.
Sorry for the off-topic post, folks. Just couldn't stand by silently and
see one of my favourite authors being slandered. :-)
/F
> Burroughs is a writer that if you're over 16 you're probably too old
> for him
Please allow me to disagree. Sure, Burroughs has many faults, including
being extremely "un-scientific", a sexist and an impretialistic racist.
However, I would claim that his merits far outweigh his faults.
You must realize when reading Burroughs that he wrote only for the porpose
of entertainment. His heroes are heroic, his heroines are feminine and his
plots are fast-paced in the extreme. His books are always exciting but
rarely realistic. Perhaps the best thing about Burroughs, however, is his
language, which is anything but childish. Rich, vivid and imaginative.
His books were among the very first "space operas", thereby paving the way
for such movies as Star Wars.
I recommend reading Burroughs, but be prepared for pure escapist
entertainment.
Sorry for the off-topic post, folks. Just couldn't stand by silently and
see one of my favourite authors being slandered. :-)
/F
Deckerd
Off-topic Burroughs discussion - feel free to skip
Message 216 -
1996-11-19 at 23:47:59
On Nov 19, 10:26pm, Fredrik Ekman wrote:
> Subject: Off-topic Burroughs discussion - feel free to skip
> Dwight wrote:
>
> > Burroughs is a writer that if you're over 16 you're probably too
old
> > for him
>
> Please allow me to disagree. ...
>
> Sorry for the off-topic post, folks. Just couldn't stand by silently
and
> see one of my favourite authors being slandered. :-)
>
Slandered? Hey, I probably like Burroughs more than you do!
I discovered him when I was about 12 (coincidentally when
his books were going through a revival and were being reprinted),
and for a couple of years just ate his books up. Loved 'em.
Still do. But I can't see an adult reading his books now,
having come on them cold without prior exposure as a kid.
All of Burroughs's weaknesses would be too obvious.
Reading his books in Dutch was my excuse to re-read them
as an adult. In English they'd just be something I'd long
since chewed the flavor out of. (By the way, are there
currently available Swedish editions of ERB?)
Sorry for the digression, folks -- back to Disney!
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Off-topic Burroughs discussion - feel free to skip
> Dwight wrote:
>
> > Burroughs is a writer that if you're over 16 you're probably too
old
> > for him
>
> Please allow me to disagree. ...
>
> Sorry for the off-topic post, folks. Just couldn't stand by silently
and
> see one of my favourite authors being slandered. :-)
>
Slandered? Hey, I probably like Burroughs more than you do!
I discovered him when I was about 12 (coincidentally when
his books were going through a revival and were being reprinted),
and for a couple of years just ate his books up. Loved 'em.
Still do. But I can't see an adult reading his books now,
having come on them cold without prior exposure as a kid.
All of Burroughs's weaknesses would be too obvious.
Reading his books in Dutch was my excuse to re-read them
as an adult. In English they'd just be something I'd long
since chewed the flavor out of. (By the way, are there
currently available Swedish editions of ERB?)
Sorry for the digression, folks -- back to Disney!
--Dwight Decker
Byron Erickson
Don't play it again, Sam!
Message 217 -
1996-11-20 at 00:39:54
I'm finally getting around to mentioning a little tidbit of info to all
those who've been asking Gladstone, etc. to reprint Cavazzano's
"Casablanca" story. It won't happen.
As far as I know, the story is banned from being reprinted for the
simple reason that Warner Bros. was not amused. Something to do with
copyright infringement, I guess. (In case you're wondering, Warner Bros.
owns the copyright to the film "Casablanca".)
Argue all you want about the justice or injustice of it all, and how
much use is fair use, but that won't change the fact that (again, as far
as I know) Disney agreed not to allow the story to be reprinted.
So if you want to see Cavazzano's "Casablanca", better run right out and
buy up a copy of Topolino 1657 before some wiseguy corners the market.
Hmm... wait a minute. I guess even mentioning the possibility of a
cornered market will almost certainly make it come true. Oh, well...
Byron
those who've been asking Gladstone, etc. to reprint Cavazzano's
"Casablanca" story. It won't happen.
As far as I know, the story is banned from being reprinted for the
simple reason that Warner Bros. was not amused. Something to do with
copyright infringement, I guess. (In case you're wondering, Warner Bros.
owns the copyright to the film "Casablanca".)
Argue all you want about the justice or injustice of it all, and how
much use is fair use, but that won't change the fact that (again, as far
as I know) Disney agreed not to allow the story to be reprinted.
So if you want to see Cavazzano's "Casablanca", better run right out and
buy up a copy of Topolino 1657 before some wiseguy corners the market.
Hmm... wait a minute. I guess even mentioning the possibility of a
cornered market will almost certainly make it come true. Oh, well...
Byron
Shaun M. Knowler
(No subject)
Message 218 -
1996-11-20 at 03:15:21
DAVE R.:
You have my sypathy and condolances on your great loss.
RICH:
If "The Money Champ" had been published before "Land Beneath the Ground",
I would definatly agree with you as that being the loss of $crooge's
original top hat, but since he first lost a hat in "Land...", that is what
my theory will be based upon. Of course, I could be wrong, if anybody
remembers him losing his hat somewhere between U$ 9, "The lemming with the
locket" (his first mention of the date of purchase and price of his hat),
and U$ 13, "Land...", I'll gladly change my theory.
-$haun
You have my sypathy and condolances on your great loss.
RICH:
If "The Money Champ" had been published before "Land Beneath the Ground",
I would definatly agree with you as that being the loss of $crooge's
original top hat, but since he first lost a hat in "Land...", that is what
my theory will be based upon. Of course, I could be wrong, if anybody
remembers him losing his hat somewhere between U$ 9, "The lemming with the
locket" (his first mention of the date of purchase and price of his hat),
and U$ 13, "Land...", I'll gladly change my theory.
-$haun
Dave Rawson
Last coupla digests
Message 219 -
1996-11-20 at 03:51:45
(Email removed) (Kriton Kyrimis):
Dave Rawson> Did you know there really does exist a (nearly) universal
DR> solvent and that it is quite common?
KK> Sounds like good old hydrogen oxide (i.e., water). Although it
KK> doesn't quite have the properties of Don's Omnisolve(TM), it will
KK> dissolve almost anything, even if it is in minute quantities.
Yup, that's it all right.
KK> Barks hit on the right formula: most people can identify with Donald
KK> (he has a family life, ambitions we can share with him, and works to
KK> make his employer richer for 30 cents an hour)
Yeah. I see Donald as the flawed Everyman, capable of rising above his
petty instincts on occasion, but rarely willing or interested in doing
so. It's always great fun to see how fate will conspire against his
hubris to keep him in a state of punctured equilibrium.
Christer Hanssen <(Email removed)>:
CH> My physics are not very good, but one of the best solvent and
CH> according to the perspective I think you pointed out my answer
CH> would be water, which is, I think, the best solvent on earth.
CH> Wrong?
Right!
Marco Barlotti <(Email removed)>:
MB> Just to try a guess: is that <time> ?
The answer is water, given enough time, so you understood, only at a
different level. I suppose one could say that the effect of gravity is a
mitigating influence, too.
You folks here are all much smarter than I was when asked this question.
I mistakenly always thought of chemical reactions as being "quick" and
this got me thinking more realistically. As Harald mentions below, rust
is chemical dissolution and as Neil Young says, "It never sleeps!"
MB> [Cavazzano's "Casablanca" was in] "Topolino" #1657 (30th August
MB> 1987), 52 pages
Perhaps I'll be lucky enough to see the whole thing someday. The little
Bob Foster showed me was wonderful!
"Harald Havas" <(Email removed)>:
HH> Water has been mentioned. I'd add air (oxygen to be more specific),
HH> which dissolves nearly everything - just think of rust = "burnt"
HH> metal.
My favorite part of camping is at the end of the day when I husband a
wood-burning campfire; the crackle and flame, the slow shift of form as
mass is oxidized into released energy, shimmering and radiant inside the
core of a shaped and banked reaction. Somehow it's all simple and
elemental and profoundly metaphorical of the larger rhythms of Life.
And just to tie this back in to another disparate thread, once I studied
Neils Bohr, and quantum mechanics, and learned of energy valences and
exothemic and endothemic reactions, my simple vision of campfires became
even richer.
To all who shared with us thoughts on white gloves and character design,
I found this most fascinating and continue to be simply amazed at the
education I'm getting just hanging out here. Thank you one and all!
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
Dave Rawson> Did you know there really does exist a (nearly) universal
DR> solvent and that it is quite common?
KK> Sounds like good old hydrogen oxide (i.e., water). Although it
KK> doesn't quite have the properties of Don's Omnisolve(TM), it will
KK> dissolve almost anything, even if it is in minute quantities.
Yup, that's it all right.
KK> Barks hit on the right formula: most people can identify with Donald
KK> (he has a family life, ambitions we can share with him, and works to
KK> make his employer richer for 30 cents an hour)
Yeah. I see Donald as the flawed Everyman, capable of rising above his
petty instincts on occasion, but rarely willing or interested in doing
so. It's always great fun to see how fate will conspire against his
hubris to keep him in a state of punctured equilibrium.
Christer Hanssen <(Email removed)>:
CH> My physics are not very good, but one of the best solvent and
CH> according to the perspective I think you pointed out my answer
CH> would be water, which is, I think, the best solvent on earth.
CH> Wrong?
Right!
Marco Barlotti <(Email removed)>:
MB> Just to try a guess: is that <time> ?
The answer is water, given enough time, so you understood, only at a
different level. I suppose one could say that the effect of gravity is a
mitigating influence, too.
You folks here are all much smarter than I was when asked this question.
I mistakenly always thought of chemical reactions as being "quick" and
this got me thinking more realistically. As Harald mentions below, rust
is chemical dissolution and as Neil Young says, "It never sleeps!"
MB> [Cavazzano's "Casablanca" was in] "Topolino" #1657 (30th August
MB> 1987), 52 pages
Perhaps I'll be lucky enough to see the whole thing someday. The little
Bob Foster showed me was wonderful!
"Harald Havas" <(Email removed)>:
HH> Water has been mentioned. I'd add air (oxygen to be more specific),
HH> which dissolves nearly everything - just think of rust = "burnt"
HH> metal.
My favorite part of camping is at the end of the day when I husband a
wood-burning campfire; the crackle and flame, the slow shift of form as
mass is oxidized into released energy, shimmering and radiant inside the
core of a shaped and banked reaction. Somehow it's all simple and
elemental and profoundly metaphorical of the larger rhythms of Life.
And just to tie this back in to another disparate thread, once I studied
Neils Bohr, and quantum mechanics, and learned of energy valences and
exothemic and endothemic reactions, my simple vision of campfires became
even richer.
To all who shared with us thoughts on white gloves and character design,
I found this most fascinating and continue to be simply amazed at the
education I'm getting just hanging out here. Thank you one and all!
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V96 #249
Message 220 -
1996-11-20 at 04:26:48
RICH:
"Didn't Lucifer the cat also appear in at least one Grandma Duck story,
despite his fall from the bell-tower in the movie?"
Yep. It's the kind of story that hasn't exactly become canon over
the years -- Uncle Scrooge, as Grandma's landlord (!), wants to prove that
cats can catch more mice than mousetraps can (?) and he'll do it by setting
Lucifer after Gus and Jaq and evicting Grandma if she complains (!!!).
All of this seems to have been inspired by a reference to "Ezra
Scrooge" as Grandma's landlord in the VACATION PARADE #1 Grandma story
(which Barks only drew). I guess someone didn't realize that "Scrooge" was
Scrooge McDuck's FIRST name, not his LAST -- merged the two characters, and
wrote that disappointing Lucifer story.
As an afterward to all of this, Lucifer DID appear in other stories
with Gus and Jaq. And Carl Barks used Lucifer, or a cat looking almost
just like him, in a story somewhere around WDC&S 174 -- I don't have the
issue number here, but it's the one about coating the money bin with wax.
(Lucifer doesn't have a darkly colored body in the story, but that's the
colorist's fault.)
OLE:
It ain't just newcomers who have a problem with poor Floyd
Gottfredson's date of passing on... as you'll notice, I got it wrong, too,
and Gottfredson is my favorite Disney comic-creator! (I was also a year
off as to when I'd gone to that Disneyana convention, hence my confusion.
Sigh.)
HARRY:
How DID the witch survive her fall? (Other than the obvious,
crawling back to her hideout covered with bumps and bruises? ;-) I imagine
that this same Italian story explains why she never turned back into Queen
Grimhilde -- perhaps she was now unable to?
DWIGHT (and others):
The German weekly is wrong about the first appearance of Chip and
Dale over there. I've got a book reprinting the first four issues of MICKY
MAUS, and they're in one story -- under the names "Schlipp und Schlupp."
Now is THAT a pun on anything, or just phonetic (like it sounds to me)?
DAVE:
You wonder if I did a "bang-up job" on "Blunder Down-Under"?
Donald sure thinks so, given the bruising he got in its pages. ;-)
HARALD:
If a one-shot story has Donald as a prince in Baghdad (for
instance), I view it as a role played by actor-Donald. Same goes for a
story with Donald in a James Bond-like role, for instance. For the obvious
medieval Donald -- Andold "Wild Duck" Temerary -- I draw the line,
though... I view ye good Sir Temerary as an ancestor of Donald who just
happens to have a lot in common with him. (This comfortable theory also
means that in some time machine story in the future, the two could meet.)
RICH:
Colonel Cobblepot wasn't in one of my stories, but in one of Pat
Block's. And remember, "my" stories that you've seen so far from Gladstone
are of course my rewrites of already-finished foreign stories. (Soon, in
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 44, you'll get to see some of my originals,
though.)
DANIEL:
All three Gottfredson stories you mention are, sadly, banned... one
for its "Uncle Tom's Cabin" parody, one for a cannibal sequence, and
"Hidden River" for its violence. (Sorry to mention this... sigh.)
"Hidden River" had originally been slated for WDC&S 584-585 over at
Disney before editor Cris Palomino found that a different office of the
company forbade its use.
"Hidden River" also has a lot of Indian characters, although that
wasn't a reason for its being banned in 1992. It could be another reason
it would be more difficult to reprint _NOW_, though.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)
"Didn't Lucifer the cat also appear in at least one Grandma Duck story,
despite his fall from the bell-tower in the movie?"
Yep. It's the kind of story that hasn't exactly become canon over
the years -- Uncle Scrooge, as Grandma's landlord (!), wants to prove that
cats can catch more mice than mousetraps can (?) and he'll do it by setting
Lucifer after Gus and Jaq and evicting Grandma if she complains (!!!).
All of this seems to have been inspired by a reference to "Ezra
Scrooge" as Grandma's landlord in the VACATION PARADE #1 Grandma story
(which Barks only drew). I guess someone didn't realize that "Scrooge" was
Scrooge McDuck's FIRST name, not his LAST -- merged the two characters, and
wrote that disappointing Lucifer story.
As an afterward to all of this, Lucifer DID appear in other stories
with Gus and Jaq. And Carl Barks used Lucifer, or a cat looking almost
just like him, in a story somewhere around WDC&S 174 -- I don't have the
issue number here, but it's the one about coating the money bin with wax.
(Lucifer doesn't have a darkly colored body in the story, but that's the
colorist's fault.)
OLE:
It ain't just newcomers who have a problem with poor Floyd
Gottfredson's date of passing on... as you'll notice, I got it wrong, too,
and Gottfredson is my favorite Disney comic-creator! (I was also a year
off as to when I'd gone to that Disneyana convention, hence my confusion.
Sigh.)
HARRY:
How DID the witch survive her fall? (Other than the obvious,
crawling back to her hideout covered with bumps and bruises? ;-) I imagine
that this same Italian story explains why she never turned back into Queen
Grimhilde -- perhaps she was now unable to?
DWIGHT (and others):
The German weekly is wrong about the first appearance of Chip and
Dale over there. I've got a book reprinting the first four issues of MICKY
MAUS, and they're in one story -- under the names "Schlipp und Schlupp."
Now is THAT a pun on anything, or just phonetic (like it sounds to me)?
DAVE:
You wonder if I did a "bang-up job" on "Blunder Down-Under"?
Donald sure thinks so, given the bruising he got in its pages. ;-)
HARALD:
If a one-shot story has Donald as a prince in Baghdad (for
instance), I view it as a role played by actor-Donald. Same goes for a
story with Donald in a James Bond-like role, for instance. For the obvious
medieval Donald -- Andold "Wild Duck" Temerary -- I draw the line,
though... I view ye good Sir Temerary as an ancestor of Donald who just
happens to have a lot in common with him. (This comfortable theory also
means that in some time machine story in the future, the two could meet.)
RICH:
Colonel Cobblepot wasn't in one of my stories, but in one of Pat
Block's. And remember, "my" stories that you've seen so far from Gladstone
are of course my rewrites of already-finished foreign stories. (Soon, in
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 44, you'll get to see some of my originals,
though.)
DANIEL:
All three Gottfredson stories you mention are, sadly, banned... one
for its "Uncle Tom's Cabin" parody, one for a cannibal sequence, and
"Hidden River" for its violence. (Sorry to mention this... sigh.)
"Hidden River" had originally been slated for WDC&S 584-585 over at
Disney before editor Cris Palomino found that a different office of the
company forbade its use.
"Hidden River" also has a lot of Indian characters, although that
wasn't a reason for its being banned in 1992. It could be another reason
it would be more difficult to reprint _NOW_, though.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)
Markoff
Lucifer lookalikes
Message 221 -
1996-11-20 at 05:09:16
DAVID:
> As an afterward to all of this, Lucifer DID appear in other stories
>with Gus and Jaq. And Carl Barks used Lucifer, or a cat looking almost
>just like him, in a story somewhere around WDC&S 174 -- I don't have the
>issue number here, but it's the one about coating the money bin with wax.
>(Lucifer doesn't have a darkly colored body in the story, but that's the
>colorist's fault.)
That's "Too-Safe Safe" from WDC&S 171. It was just reprinted in U$ 299 (and
also during Gladstone's first run in U$ 231), and in the newer reprint the
cat is colored dark. I don't know about the older reprint. BTW, the mice
that the cat chases somehow resemble a certain other famous Disney mouse...
--Jonathan Markoff
> As an afterward to all of this, Lucifer DID appear in other stories
>with Gus and Jaq. And Carl Barks used Lucifer, or a cat looking almost
>just like him, in a story somewhere around WDC&S 174 -- I don't have the
>issue number here, but it's the one about coating the money bin with wax.
>(Lucifer doesn't have a darkly colored body in the story, but that's the
>colorist's fault.)
That's "Too-Safe Safe" from WDC&S 171. It was just reprinted in U$ 299 (and
also during Gladstone's first run in U$ 231), and in the newer reprint the
cat is colored dark. I don't know about the older reprint. BTW, the mice
that the cat chases somehow resemble a certain other famous Disney mouse...
--Jonathan Markoff
Markoff
Pluto Saves the Ship
Message 222 -
1996-11-20 at 06:31:06
GLADSTONE:
I've had an idea--how about reprinting "Pluto Saves the Ship"? That's pretty
significant historically, and it hasn't been reprinted much. Oh, wait--the
word "ship" is in the title--that means that it takes place on the ocean
until it comes to an island, where a LONG cannibal sequence takes place, and
so the story is banned, right?
--Jonathan Markoff
I've had an idea--how about reprinting "Pluto Saves the Ship"? That's pretty
significant historically, and it hasn't been reprinted much. Oh, wait--the
word "ship" is in the title--that means that it takes place on the ocean
until it comes to an island, where a LONG cannibal sequence takes place, and
so the story is banned, right?
--Jonathan Markoff
Danny Coenen
Universal Solvent and general remarks
Message 223 -
1996-11-20 at 09:00:29
ALL:
I am awfully sorry for contributing to this list so infrequently lately.
I`ll try my hardest to change that from now on, and keep up with the
digests. One part I followed was the new discussion about the physics
in Don`s awesome "The Universal Solvent". Although Don successfully
explained all aspects that have been doubted do far, I think I found
a couple of minor mistakes...
DON:
Well, I hope you don`t get bored woth this topic, but I am kind of interested
in Physics, and I think there are a few little bugs in your story.
The earth`s mantle isn`t TOTALLY solid, most materials start melting about
100-200 kilometers under the earth`s surface because of the frequently
rising temperatures. The deeper you get, the melting temperature of the
minerals rise faster than the actual temperature, and that lower part of the
mantle really is solid. Those two parts are called lithosphere and
asthenosphere, and they highly influence the spreading of earthquake waves,
for example.
What gravity is concerned, even if Gyro created a vacuum in the shaft to
avoid them getting squashed into jelly, gravity will do exactly that
job when they approach the center of the Earth.
Thinking about gravity, as soon as the solvent would have disolved the
liquid outer core (AND the liquid part of the mantle), gravity would
immediately cause the solid parts to collapse and fall into the center. They
would more or less simply stick to the inner core, wich would make billiard
ball in a fish bowl effect impossible- simply because the bowl will not be
existant any longer!
Another aspect is: It seems like the Ducks got back to the surface withing
a few minutes, maybe hours. If they really ran all the way up from some
point of the mantle, wouldn`t have that taken a hell of a long time to
get up all the way?
Well, I am sure you`ll also have some explanations for these aspects, but
in case you don`t- it`s still "only" a story, isn`t it?
I have some more questions to you, which are:
When will we have the pleasure to see you in Germany again?
What are you working on right now? Any Yukon stories coming up?
I am anxiously awaiting your answers to those physics things, but I`ll read the
story again tonite, and see if I can come up with some answers myself.
ALL [non-disney]:
Anybody know about some cool alternative or rock mailing lists? Please
contact me on PRIVATE MAIL, if you do. Thanks!
Have a great day, everybody!
Danny Coenen
---"I have to look up some new quotations"
Danny Coenen
Kopernikusstr. 18 Tel. :
(049)2461/56129
D-52428 Juelich
Germany EU e-mail :
(Email removed)
I am awfully sorry for contributing to this list so infrequently lately.
I`ll try my hardest to change that from now on, and keep up with the
digests. One part I followed was the new discussion about the physics
in Don`s awesome "The Universal Solvent". Although Don successfully
explained all aspects that have been doubted do far, I think I found
a couple of minor mistakes...
DON:
Well, I hope you don`t get bored woth this topic, but I am kind of interested
in Physics, and I think there are a few little bugs in your story.
The earth`s mantle isn`t TOTALLY solid, most materials start melting about
100-200 kilometers under the earth`s surface because of the frequently
rising temperatures. The deeper you get, the melting temperature of the
minerals rise faster than the actual temperature, and that lower part of the
mantle really is solid. Those two parts are called lithosphere and
asthenosphere, and they highly influence the spreading of earthquake waves,
for example.
What gravity is concerned, even if Gyro created a vacuum in the shaft to
avoid them getting squashed into jelly, gravity will do exactly that
job when they approach the center of the Earth.
Thinking about gravity, as soon as the solvent would have disolved the
liquid outer core (AND the liquid part of the mantle), gravity would
immediately cause the solid parts to collapse and fall into the center. They
would more or less simply stick to the inner core, wich would make billiard
ball in a fish bowl effect impossible- simply because the bowl will not be
existant any longer!
Another aspect is: It seems like the Ducks got back to the surface withing
a few minutes, maybe hours. If they really ran all the way up from some
point of the mantle, wouldn`t have that taken a hell of a long time to
get up all the way?
Well, I am sure you`ll also have some explanations for these aspects, but
in case you don`t- it`s still "only" a story, isn`t it?
I have some more questions to you, which are:
When will we have the pleasure to see you in Germany again?
What are you working on right now? Any Yukon stories coming up?
I am anxiously awaiting your answers to those physics things, but I`ll read the
story again tonite, and see if I can come up with some answers myself.
ALL [non-disney]:
Anybody know about some cool alternative or rock mailing lists? Please
contact me on PRIVATE MAIL, if you do. Thanks!
Have a great day, everybody!
Danny Coenen
---"I have to look up some new quotations"
Danny Coenen
Kopernikusstr. 18 Tel. :
(049)2461/56129
D-52428 Juelich
Germany EU e-mail :
(Email removed)
Alipio D'Oliveira Coelho
Disney comics Digest V96 #255
Message 224 -
1996-11-20 at 13:50:46
>Subject: O capacete Intocavel
>In fact, a story with code "1025" can only be I-1025, which means it comes
>from "Topolino" issue #1025 of 20th July 1975. Since Gyro appears in it, it
>can only be <Paperino e il casco respingente> ("Donald and the repelling
>helmet"; shouldn't we learn to ALWAYS give the English translation?).
That is the story! I am sorry not the English translation. The title
in Portuguese may be "Donald and the_untochable_helmet_".
>Actually that story is very peculiar because there, he drew Gyro in a
>very weird way, with Einstein-like hair.
>Fabrizio.
Got it! Actually he has a Einstein-like hair. BTW, I liked the
story, I just don't like Gyros's hair. And that he looks like Einstein's.
Alipio.
>In fact, a story with code "1025" can only be I-1025, which means it comes
>from "Topolino" issue #1025 of 20th July 1975. Since Gyro appears in it, it
>can only be <Paperino e il casco respingente> ("Donald and the repelling
>helmet"; shouldn't we learn to ALWAYS give the English translation?).
That is the story! I am sorry not the English translation. The title
in Portuguese may be "Donald and the_untochable_helmet_".
>Actually that story is very peculiar because there, he drew Gyro in a
>very weird way, with Einstein-like hair.
>Fabrizio.
Got it! Actually he has a Einstein-like hair. BTW, I liked the
story, I just don't like Gyros's hair. And that he looks like Einstein's.
Alipio.
Fumetti
About Zio Paperone & Lidia Scrooge Cannatella
Message 225 -
1996-11-20 at 23:16:31
Don Rosa is right.
IMHO, Lidia is one of the (too, too much little number of) Italian Disney
workers who does know what IS comics, and loves her work, and does her best.
And Zio Paperone is now the best Disney magazine in Italy (may be the only
one which deserves his price).
Gianfranco Goria, cartoonist and comics divulger: (Email removed)
president of Anonima Fumetti - Italian cartoonists society: (Email removed)
http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/
IMHO, Lidia is one of the (too, too much little number of) Italian Disney
workers who does know what IS comics, and loves her work, and does her best.
And Zio Paperone is now the best Disney magazine in Italy (may be the only
one which deserves his price).
Gianfranco Goria, cartoonist and comics divulger: (Email removed)
president of Anonima Fumetti - Italian cartoonists society: (Email removed)
http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/