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On Nov 6, 11:37pm, Juergen Gebhardt wrote:

> As for moose (that is the plural, or is it meese?) in comics,
> there's also Myron Moose by Bob Foster.
>
Moose is the plural as well as the singular. One moose, two
moose. If you see "mooses" or "meese," somebody is making a
joke (the irregular plural causes _us_ trouble, too), as in
a certain Carl Barks-drawn story I could name...

And of course the name Bob Foster is not unknown in the annals
of the Disney comics biz.

--Dwight Decker

JONATHAN:

That Gary Gabner is a silver-penned devil, all right. Trouble is, he's had
nothing but a string of health problems this year, starting with a hernia
operation, though he has promised to do a CrossTalk about our Web site for
me. As for John, he's just been purely snowed under, and it's hard to say
when he'll ever have a moment to contribute anything. So I guess y'all are
stuck with me for the foreseeable future.

Gary
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HARALD:

> ARCHIVE/INDEX
> could anybody please
> explain the basics of the much heralded index to me?. Like, is it on the
> net (where), is part of it only ftp, what (format) do I get, when I ftp
> it, and so on?

I don't know exactly where you can find the database files. They are a bunch
of (almost-) ASCII files, available through ftp. Per's Disney comics webpages
have links to these files.
(I also don't know which problems Michael has in downloading the files on
a Mac. Maybe it's that some of the characters in the European story titles
are non-ASCII?)

I *can* tell something about the contents of the various files. In fact, that's
in one of the ftp files itself, "legend". Here's a brief summary:

In the "main" database directory, you find some legend files, which list
abbreviations and other info about creators, heroes, indexers, etc.
(total about 100 kB)

The other files are in several subdirectories:

western (1.4 MB)
Files with information about the USA comics, published by
Western, under the Dell, Gold Key, and Whitman label.

gladstone-disney (0.4 MB)
Files with information about the USA comics published by
Gladstone and Disney Comics (1986 - present).

colombia (2 kB)
denmark (1.4 MB)
finland (33 kB)
germany (0.6 MB)
netherlands (1.3 MB)
sweden (2.0 MB)
uk (12 kB)
Files with information about comics from the respective country.
(The next version will also have "italy", and probably "norway".)

creators (total size unknown)
Files with information grouped by creator: Carl Barks, Don Rosa,
and many others.
These creator indexes are also available as Web pages.

stories (2 MB)
Files with information grouped by "story code". For instance, all
stories produced by Egmont in Denmark are in the three files
"D-cod-2000-5998.stories", "D-cod-6000-10168.stories", and
"D-cod-88-.stories".

I think there is a possibility to download all files in a compressed form,
but I don't know the details about that. (Since I *provide* the files [to Per], I never
have to *download* them myself...)

--Harry.

(Email removed) (Wilmer Rivers):
WR> And as for the death of Scrooge, I think that he should not die but
WR> merely fade away. At age 100, he heads back to the Klondike, where
WR> he has some "unfinished business". [...] All that is left for us to
WR> ponder is a humble-looking tombstone which Scrooge purchased before
WR> he left Duckburg, with the instructions that it was be to used for
WR> his own grave - even if it was empty. The epitaph on the tombstone
WR> says mysteriously: "Just a Poor Old Man".

Gosh, Wilmer, that was swell. Really! You oughta be submitting story
ideas to Byron. Need a sideline?

(Email removed) (Juergen Gebhardt):
JG> As for moose (that is the plural, or is it meese?) in comics,
JG> there's also Myron Moose by Bob Foster.

Those who looked closely at the fearsome paraphenalia bedecking the
wizard's attack balloon in the recent Ferioli/Egmont (version of "On the
Ball") "On the Road to Mandalay" will see that Myron's mounted and
stuffed head is the centerpiece of the awe-inspiring accouterments.

--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm

DAVE R.:
I couldn't believe this when I saw it in your last message:

>DonR> Anytime this is violated, it's simply when the hired-editors
>aren't
>DonR> familiar with the comics they are editting
>
>Well, I think Byron's eminently familiar with what he's editing and
>doing a damn fine job to boot. In fact, I think he's an enormous benefit
>to the Disney character story-telling community and we're lucky to have
>him.

You make it look like I was referring to BYRON of all people when I was
talking of the Disney-Disney-Comics editors so unfamiliar with Duck or Mouse
stories that they didn't understand that these are NOT "funny animal" comics
where penguins and jaquars and skunks and so forth talk and wear clothes!
Byron is exactly who I constantly PRAISE as being the ideal editor for this
material. I assume (?) you know that Byron never was an editor for the
Disney-Disney-Comics that I clearly referred to, and he would never let a
Duckburg story be written like a "Lil' Bad Wolf" story. Please correct your
implication.

Another not-so-nice implication is that I'm calling you a "lout" when you
write "ah, well, I guess I'm a lout, but I like doing it different ways.
It's fun and it works quite well" in reference to my statement that Duckburg
or Mickey Mouse stories have guidelines different from mainstream
funny-animal comics. I clearly was saying there ARE different ways to do
stories, but there are also guidelines which *must* be be followed by a
writer. You can't put a talking penguin into a Mickey Mouse story anymore
than you could drop one into the middle of a Superman story or an issue of
your Leonardo da Vinci comic. Penguins don't talk. You might personally
think it's fun to do, but it does not "work well" when the reader, assuming
he's familiar with the Donald Duck or Superman "universe", must stop
abruptly and wonder why penguins have suddenly gained powers of intelligence
and speech.

DANIEL K.:
I know you're a newcomer to the Group, and welcome. But have you considered
reading through the archived Digests to see what's already been discussed
here? It should take you only 6 months or so to read those 10,000 pages. (!)
Anyway, I've always said that I would NEVER do a story where I show $crooge
and Goldie having any direct contact in the Yukon days. I purposely built
"Hearts of the Yukon" around a situation where they NEVER interact. Barks
did the only such story that there should ever be, and for anyone to ever
deal with their brief time together in the Klondike would be to dilute the
significance of that meeting. The only contact they had was that month alone
together at White Agony Creek, and we use our individual imaginations as to
what took place in that time. No, sorry, I'll never do the scenes that you
say you wished I'd included in the "Lo$".

DANNY C.:
No, I'll keep my story ideas for HD&L's parents secret for two reasons. 1) I
may still do that story someday. 2) I suspect my idea for that story is a
real stinker and I *like* to keep such things secret!
As for Steven King being a Barks fan -- sure he is! He's middle-aged. In his
40s. Barks' Ducks may be unloved by the current American comic buyers, but
in the 40s and 50s and early 60s Barks' stories and Disney comics in general
were as universally popular here as they still are where you live in Europe!

MARCO:

> Yup, that was it! It was my beloved story written by Mazzanti and drawn by
> Gatto!

So, GLADSTONE, now that story has been identified, can you PLEASE, PLEASE,
PLEASE schedule it for reprinting?

> Only, the Italian version had Donald go into year 2001 (40 years from

This would place the time of Scroge's death some time between 1961 and 2001,
which is consistent with Don's view that Scrooge died in 1967.

> "now"), so he didn't need any long-life drug to meet himself in the future!

This makes a lot more sense. It always troubled me why Scrooge would send
Donald 4000 years into the future and expect to find either a future Donald or
any recognizable form of his fortune.

> I read again the story yesterday after many years. I noticed a little
> inconsistency in that it's not explained exactly HOW Donald manages to go
> back to "now", but apart from that I still liked it a lot! And it was fun to

I wouldn't call it an incosistency, but yes, it wasn't explained. Donald just
fell on his knees in front of the video screen where Scrooge's recorded
message had appeared at the beginning of the story, imploring Scrooge to take
him back. Perhaps the machine was voice-activated.

> read that "since 1970 cars don't use gasoline any more, they are
> atom-propelled"!

That's one of the scenes I remember. Donald asks all sorts of questions
from the man tending a gas (actually, atomic energy) station, including how
it was possible to travel into the future, to which the man ansered: "you
can't expect me to know everything--even a *robot* has its limitations"! He
then turns to leave, and we can see a huge winding key on his back!
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
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Daniel:

>Sorry for the lenght but just one more question> A lot has been talked about
>$crooge's death. I'm a little perturbed by this seemingly unanimous decision
>in the Duck community that $crooge died. I'm sure many of you have read "Go
>Slowly Sands of Time" in the $crooge celestial arts book (not the Vicar
>version, but the actual Barks storybook). In the afterward of this story,
>Barks specifically says that this story was written to show how $crooge lived
>forever. I don't remember the exact wording but it was something like he
>didn't want kids reading the books 100 years from now to get the impression
>that $crooge had just up and died. Maybe Barks was speaking metaphorically,
>but if he doesn't believe that $crooge has died, I don't know how any of us
>can.

To me it doesn't look like he ment it metaphorically, Barks wanted to let
the Ducks to be a part of the forthcomming children's world and that new
stories could be made about them. And to me he is still alive today, though
Don Rosa have a fixed period for Scrooge. That's also some of the fine thing
about the Duck universe. Anyone can let the Ducks behave and explore like
much of all that others have writting haven't been done. The Ducks live
inside the storie and when the next starts all is "forgotten". Then on the
other hand it is thrilling to read stories based on and expanded on others
like Don's. Long live the variety! And the Ducks!

Rich Morrisey:

> I can't think of any offhand. In fact, even the professor didn't really
>die. He was reduced to dust, but it was possible, through a formula he
>himself discovered, to bring those subjected to the process back to life. So
>it would be entirely possible to bring not only the Professor, but King
>Nevawuzza, his ugly daughter, and her fiance Prince Cad Ali Cad back again
>some day.

Well, I wouldn't feel much alive being dust:-)) But I agree with you that
there is a kind of difference though not much. Then you would also say that
Scrooge's parents didn't die in Life and Times either, like Daniel said?
They just went away.

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Anders E.:

"There's of course "King $crooge the First" (US 71), where the villain
ends up taking an antidote to the life-prolonging substance he had
taken 4000 years earlier... I guess that counts as suicide, even."

Wow, suicide! This is just....
When is this one scheduled in USA in Color? Or has it been published
reasontly? I'll guess I just have to wait.
~Christer