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Shaun M. Knowler
Wilmer:
I believe $crooge's fourtune was left to HD&L, as told of in Barks' "Some
Heir Over the Rainbow".

ANYBODY:
Was Barks' "Adventure Down Under" banned or something? I don't know if
Gladstone reprinted it in their DDA albums series...I don't think they
did. I could've it been banned with all them Aborigines in it?

BTW: I don't like the idea of HD&L's poppa being Daisy's brother...that
would make her REALTED TO DONALD! yikes!

And one more thing: This drawing Don did of Donald & Co. standing around
$crooge's gravestone: I just did a drawing like this of my own a few
months ago...and i didn't even know Don did one! Scary! Our Epitaphs even
said the same thing! Exept mine was the english version of "fortuna favet
fortibus" which means "Fortune favours the Bold".
(if anyone cares!) :)

-$haun
Harry Fluks
MICHAEL:
> Now I see why the Western index cannot be downloaded...it has 1.4 MG and my
> printer only has 1.5 MG of RAM Grrrr!!!!

I don't get at all what you mean. The "Western Index" is several files, each less
than 150.000 bytes. And what does the RAM of your printer have to do with it?

> Is there an index to the Junior Woodchucks medals?

Not that I know of. ("Nothing of which I know"? I'm still confused about that
preposition rule...8-)

--Harry.
Harry Fluks
MARCO:
> So are we back at the start?

Yes, we had some recurring subjects on the List. Even the subject about
recurring subjects has been here before. Last time, someone proposed
to have a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) made. It didn't become more
than a proposal.

In 1994, I compiled a file with Don Rosa's comments, sorted by story. One
of the purposes was that people could read that file and not bother Don
with the same questions again. Unfortunately, I haven't updated that file
since. Don writes a *lot* to this list, and selecting, sorting and editing takes
a lot of time...

--Harry.
Harry Fluks
SHAUN:
> I believe $crooge's fourtune was left to HD&L, as told of in Barks' "Some
> Heir Over the Rainbow".

Scrooge only *said* he would put HDL in his will. He may have changed his
mind (and if you also count non-Barks stories, he *did* changes his mind
several times).

> Was Barks' "Adventure Down Under" banned or something? I don't know if
> Gladstone reprinted it in their DDA albums series...

It was in album #7, together with "Ghost of the Grotto".

> BTW: I don't like the idea of HD&L's poppa being Daisy's brother...that
> would make her REALTED TO DONALD! yikes!

Well, only by marriage. I kind of like the idea that "Aunt Daisy" really is
an aunt of the nephews (HDL). But there's one minor drawback: April, May and
June would be (real) cousins of HDL.

--Harry.
"You're as wrong as a red necktie at a wedding!"
(Mickey in 1931)

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Harry Fluks
DAVID:
> Maybe I mentioned that I thought YOU were responsible for "Flux"
> being in the Dutch version of "Hero 2000"?

I made a joke to that extent once, on this List. But that Flux had nothing to
do with me (and I also don't think the "Fluks" in a Bucky Bug story of that time
had anything to do with me).

> (So when DID you meet Mau Heymans for the first time? I thought it was
> before "Hero 2000" was first published.)

I think I first talked with him this summer, on a comic convention.

--Harry.
Kriton Kyrimis
Christer Hanssen:
> It is credited in the database with art by Tony Strobl. I wouldn't know if
> that is coorect, since I've not read it yet and probably woulnt't have
> recognized it either.

The story is very much in Barks' style, so you would have recognized it
immediately.

This is one of the stories I remember reading as a kid. When I learnt about
Carl Barks, and could tell his stories from those by other artists,
I was certain that the story I remembered reading was by Barks. When I got
to read that story in the Carl Barks library, I was surprised to learn that
although the story was by Barks, the art was by Tony Strobl. (Why is he called
"the other good duck artist", by the way? His stories are nowhere near as good
as Barks.)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"I don't know yet, but as soon as I do, you'll be the second to know."
"Who will be the first?"
"Me."
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Kriton Kyrimis
MARCO:
> tells her boy-friend - hey, we might as well go... that's the point we came in!
> (Maybe non-Italians won't understand this joke - Italy might be the only
> country where people (ugh) go to see movies and enter the cinema when the
> movie has already begun!)

It's the same thing in Greece. We even use the same expression.
(Greeks say "one face, one race" in something that might actually be
Italian, meaning that Greeks and Italians have many things in common.)

> What I mean is, I understand that newcomers can't possibly read the old
> digests... I didn't do that a year ago! (Although I DID try...) But I am a
> little worried that we are getting trapped into repeating over and over the
> same arguments. What will happen when Don, kind as he may be, gets bored of
> telling again his view of the Ducks world?

Perhaps someone (don't look at me, I'm a newcomer, too) could undertake to
write a FAQ (list of Frequently Asked Questions, with their answers), and post
a short message announcing its location once each month or so.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"I don't know yet, but as soon as I do, you'll be the second to know."
"Who will be the first?"
"Me."
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Daniel C. Kenny
MARCO (AND ALL)
Last time I apologized to Don Rosa for making him repeat himself. At the time,
I assumed that he was the only one who I needed to apologize too. But now I
understand that I have to extend my apologies to everyone else.
I think you guys can understand that it's difficult to be a newcomer. There
are so many burning questions that have been on my mind for years. I've NEVER
written to Gladstone, and nobody I know is a duck fan, so this is really my
first opportunity to discuss these things. Duck fans are similar though, and
they have the same questions. Only problem though is that you guys were
discussing them loooooong before I hopped on board. All I ask is you guys give
me the benefit of the doubt for the first couple of weeks. I don't want to
become known as the "stupid new guy" whose questions are never taken seriously.
I like the list too much to develop that kind of reputation too early on. I've
already started going through some of the archived digests, so hopefully, I
should feel caught up soon.
On the other hand though, there will always be newcomers, and, like it or not,
they will ask the oft repeated questions too. In just looking through some of
the lists from the summer, I've noticed how much larger they have gotten. More
people are joining the list. I don't know how we're gonna handle this, but we
can't simply put a sign up at the door saying "NO NEWCOMERS ALLOWED".
Marco Barlotti
>
> Even the subject about
>recurring subjects has been here before.
>

Touche'!
Marco
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

This weeks Dutch Donald Duck weekly has a story that would be nice for
Gladstone! ;-) In the beginning of the story, Scrooge is telling about one
of his adventures in 1896, when Indians robbed him and stole his gold. Then
the indians tie him on a pole where they want to toast him by setting fire to
the wood under the pole, which they really seem to enjoy! When Scrooge is
almost catching fire, the Indians flee away from an approaching cavalery
regiment! Haha ... wouldn't that be a nice story to be published in the
States? Well, to be honest, I didn't really like the story. Not only because
of the not-funny-at-all ending and the lame story-line, but also because of
the fact that in the story, it is said that Scrooge was robbed from a million
worth of gold in 1896, while everyone knows that Scrooge only found his first
Gold nugget in 1897! ;-)

DANIEL KENNY:
> I don't want to become known as the "stupid new guy" whose
> questions are never taken seriously.
I doubt that! This is a very friendly mailing list! I agree with you
completely, that newcomers should be given the opportunity to fire away
their burning questions, as long as there's no list of Frequently
Answered Questions available!

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Shaun M. Knowler
Harry:

1. Sorry, I don't count non-Barks or non-Rosa stories, so as far as I know
$crooge (said) he'd leave his mountains of moola to HD&L, which was later
re-inforeced by Don in "Nobody's Business". But that's just MY opinion. ;)

2. Album #7? Thanks...it's hard to tell because in the Gladstone index
found on the inside of other album covers, "Adventure Down Under" is not
mentioned. Which brings me to another thing:

GLADSTONE:
How long do you plan to keep the full sets of the DDA albums available?
$255.00 isn't very easy for a (law abiding) 17 year old to come up with
very quickly, and it's a set i'd really like to have...someday

-$haun
Byron Erickson
HARALD HAVAS

> Yes, but what about the RECENT Egmont "Super-Duck" story with a
> talking penguin villain, most probable edited by Byron? (Nag, nag,
> nag!) Or is it automatically non-canon to you, since it's a Super-
> Duck-story?

Hey! I've never edited a Super-Duck story in my life!!!

My own personal take on the "suitable-species" question is muddled. We
Egmont editors sat down and discussed it in depth a couple of years ago
and tried to come up with a list of which animals can be people, and
which must remain animals. We found out it's not that simple.

So here's my current take: It seems to me that aside from the ducks and
mice and standard dog-faces, an animal can only be a person if that
animal has a recognized personality trait. To give some examples, a
greedy or slovenly person is a pig, a shifty con-man is a weasel, and a
wise judge is an owl.

Notice that this has nothing to do with an animal's actual
characteristics, but rather with those anthropomorhized traits western
culture has bestowed upon them.

So according to this "rule", penguins can't be people because western
culture has not given them a personality (the joke that they look like
they're wearing tuxedos doesn't count).

But the above all gets muddied when you also think of what's needed for
stories. Lions and tigers and bears (Oh, my!) can't be people for the
simple reason that we need them as wild animals and depicting some lions
as kings and some as ferocious animals would be confusing (ever see
Horace on a horse? I have, and it's a scream!). And even though we don't
use wild foxes much, and even though "sly as a fox" would seem to
indicate they'd be good for criminal masterminds, something about using
a fox as a person would just seem "wrong" to me.

Hm... as I said, it's not that simple.

GARY LEACH

I can't remember exactly when Floyd Gottfredson died either, but I'm
pretty certain it was shortly after he came to Scottsdale to attend
Summer Hamilton's wedding (remember, the one that was in the park?). Ask
her what date that was and you'll have at least narrowed it down.

HARRY FLUKS
>
> Not that I know of. ("Nothing of which I know"? I'm still confused about that
> preposition rule...8-)

Some famous person once said something along the lines of "English
grammer is the cross on which generations of school children have been
crucified." He said it because English grammer is not organic--it was
artificially constructed to fit a rule system borrowed from classical
Latin.

So "Not that I know of" is fine. Ending a sentence with a preposition
would only get you in trouble with sour-faced grammarians who think
their precious rules are somehow high-class just because they were
borrowed from a classical language. But to see how wrong they are, just
listen to how stiff "Nothing of which I know" sounds. And how much more
exciting it is to say "to boldly go" than "to go boldly" (phooey on the
split infinitive rule, too).

What's this have to do with Disney comics? Nothing--unless you need to
argue with a prim and proper "approver" at Disney about character
dialogue. I don't have to any more, but I once did, and knowing the
above quote sure came in handy. Too bad I don't know the source anymore
(can anyone help?).

Byron
Wilmer Rivers
ARTHUR:
There are a couple of more problems about the story you mentioned,
in which Scrooge (in 1896) is about to be burned at the stake by
Indians until the Cavalry arrives, aside from Scrooge's not yet owning
in 1896 the gold which the Indians in that story would have stolen.
First, the story casts Indians in less than a positive light, so Disney
would never allow it in the USA. Second, Geronimo surrendered the
Apache tribes to the U.S. Army in 1886, ending the Indian wars in the
Southwest, and then the Cavalry inflicted the Wounded Knee massacre in
1890, ending the Indian wars in the Northwest. So by 1896 this
story wouldn't have much historical justification, unless you assume
that the Indians were just a bunch of outlaws. Then the regular law
enforcement authorities, such as the county sheriff or the U.S.
marshall, would have chased after them, not the Cavalry. At least I
**think** that's the way it was in 1896...

Wilmer Rivers
Harry Fluks
> In the beginning of the story, Scrooge is telling about one
> of his adventures in 1896, when Indians robbed him and stole his gold.

I'll tell the author, Frank Jonker, about your opinion. BTW, the story was penciled
by Bas Heymans (the brother of) and inked by the Comicup studio.

> This is a very friendly mailing list! I agree with you
> completely, that newcomers should be given the opportunity to fire away
> their burning questions, as long as there's no list of Frequently
> Answered Questions available!

You said it right. On this list, frequently ASKED questions are also
frequently ANSWERED questions! And sometimes, when a question is
answered for the 2nd or 3rd time, there is new information we didn't know
before. (I think I also said this last time...)

--Harry.
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

I noticed that in the past days, people on this mailing list
wanted to see pictures like the tombstone-drawing of Don Rosa. That's why I
have included a 'Rosa Picture Gallery' on my website, which currently has six
pictures, including two Rosa covers and four Rosa drawings. Due to my lack of
space, I can't put more pictures on my website, unfortunately!

Everyone can go to the 'Rosa Picture Gallery' by choosing:
'special features' then 'about comics' and then 'rosa picture gallery'!

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney

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