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Bhc
Kriton:

>Doesn't all this effort to make the non-sale copies worthless actually
>have the reverse effect?

Nonsale copies are a fact of publishing life. They are a part of the
process, produced to meet purposes and obligations, both legal and
traditional, that lie outside the publisher's primary function of supplying
product to the marketplace. Their collectibility, to be blunt, is
irrelevant.

Reality check: though not intended for sale, some nonsale copies do manage
to wind up being offered for sale. It's another fact of publishing life.
The hows and the whys are varied, and, with few exceptions, well outside
the publisher's control.

Bottom line: what we absolutely cannot allow is any possibility that a
nonsale copy, in or out of our control, could be mistaken for a copy that
is one of the 1000 offered to the retail market. Each retail copy is sold
as some number of that 1000, with only that particular copy bearing that
particular number. This guarantee of exclusivity, which lies at the very
heart of the concept of the "limited edition," is something we take very
seriously. Nonsale copies do not belong to that 1000, and we mark them
differently to insure that they stay that way.

In short, its all in a day's work.
Katie Sullivan
I'm a sci-fi buff myself. I like Star Trek: TNG best of the series.
Being only 18 (of of the 17th of this month!!!) I don't remember the
original series. I love Arthur C. Clarke and I believe the
aforementioned novel is called "A Fall of Moondust", but don't quote me
on it. I also like reading fantasy books.
As far as Barks' space stories, I always thought them to be out of place
with many of the others, which are based so carefully on actual history
and geography. The space stories seem very fanciful, like something
Donald would dream about after one too many tall, fizzy sodas. But, as
a devout Rosa fan, "Attack of the Hideous Space Varmints" wooed me into
liking all the ducks' space voyagers a little better.

Katie Sullivan
a.k.a. Mrs. Quackfaster
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/scrooge.html
Bhc
David F.:

>Interesting, in that there doesn't seem to be an active and advanced space
>program in the Duck universe, government-wise, so where did all these
>rockets come from?].

Gyro Gearloose, who'll build anything imaginable for pocket change. Then
again, what's to stop your average Duckburgian from bopping him- or herself
on the noggin just so and becoming a scientific genius for a few hours?
Joakim Gunnarsson
In #251 Eirik wrote:
> 2. In which other Disney comics stories does Bombie or other Zombies
appear?
I guess that the list has already been swamped with mail about Rosa's
Bombie story, so I won't even mention it. ( Ok, ok I just did!)

I'd just like to add, to Eirik (and the rest of you interested in such
things), that the articles that inspired Barks to write Voodoo Hoodoo can
be found in "The American Weekly" May 3, 1942
(pages 10-11) and in the July 25, 1948 (pages 16-17) issue.
Ask your library to track down photo copeis of those.(Wonderful
illustrations...)
+the film "White Zombie" (1932) wich was Barks immediate inspiration for
his duckstory. (Source: CBL set II.)

By the way... the Voodoo doll from DDFC 238 makes a reappearence in
"Paperinik" 9/97 (ECN no.) (or Stal-Kalle as we know him in Sweden) page
62, panel 2!

Any comments on the new Paperinik ( Fantonald, Stalanden or
Super-Donald.) comics? Does anyone like them, or dislike them?
Any feelings about them at all?
I'm just curious...

/Joakim Gunnarsson
Falkenberg, Sweden.
Eric Chun
Gaute wrote:
> Yeah, I remember Rosa's remarks on Overstreet and the "feud"
> between them. I also remember his remark that no second-hand
> comic should be worth more than half the cover price.

Hmm ... Shouldn't they be worth cover price if they're still
in mint condition?

(Of course, that would obsolete Robert Overstreet's comic book
price guides.)

Eric
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
EIRIK:
>1. In which issue of CBLiC Comics & Stories is the reproduction of Carl
>Barks' Bombie the Zombie painting ?
It's not reproduced in that series.
>2. In which other Disney comics stories do Bombie or other Zombies
appear?
Bombie reappears in "Hero 300" (in Gladstone's DONALD DUCK 300),
albeit only briefly, and also of course in Don Rosa's "Life of Scrooge
Part XI" (Gladstone UNCLE SCROOGE 295 and, more recently, Gladstone Rosa
Album #4). There he has an important role.
There are two other major zombie stories that I recall. "Mickey
Mouse and the 'Lectro Box" from Gottfredson (reprint: WDC&S 568-572,
1992) is a story where the villain has servants called Aberzombies - who
lumber around without speaking and lead Mickey quite a merry battle. The
other one is the Mickey "Mystery Next Door" (unfortunately not reprinted
since WDC&S 93, 1948) by Gottfredson as well, where a big crate
delivered to Mickey seems to contain a zombie-like person. It's not the
most memorable story, albeit weird as hell.

RICH M:
>A final note, since I've been away for awhile--I missed it when it was
>explained where Daisy's nieces originated. Am I right that, though
April may
>have originated in a '40's story (in which all three of Donald's
nephews vied
>for her attentions), it was indeed Barks who added May and June in the
>classic "Flipism" story?
No, Barks originated all three in the Flipism story. A later
story by someone else featured a (named for the first time) April on her
own, and then the full trio was brought back, all named from that point
on.

EIRIK (again):
>Are there other Super Snooper stories than the Barks original and Rosa
>sequel/remake?
There's a Daan Jippes and Fred Milton story centering on the
acquisition of Super Snooper comics and a pious "moralist"'s efforts to
replace them with soft, cuddly children's books. It was published in the
USA in WDC&S 518. It's a great story, although nobody gets super powers.
Super Snooper is also mentioned in the Colomer-drawn "Catman Vs.
the Masked Marauder" (in Gladstone's DDA 28). I did that Americanization
and the SS reference was in the German version - I don't know if it was
in all other European editions.
Luna Storta
Hello,

At least there are the first posting of the International
Disney Survey results. Maybe that many of you have already
seen some of these results on the web pages, however, first
of all I'd like to thank all the ones who posted their
opinion: the total number of voters reached the number of
49.
About the results, well, luckly it was not possible to vote for
Don Rosa in the "Charachter" category, otherwise he would have
appeared in this list too!! ;-)
The preferred charachter resulted Donald Duck, with 22
preferences, it would be interesting to know if these votes are
for the "original" Donald (from Barks) or the newer one from
Don... BTW this is the complete list:

Donald Duck 22 votes
Scrooge McDuck 16 votes
Mickey Mouse 5 votes
Magica de' Spell 2 votes
Peg-Leg Pete 1 vote
Gyro Gearloose 1 vote
HD&L 1 vote
Little Helper 1 vote

This series of number deserves a better interpretation: the
preferred charachter resulted to be Donald in almost all
countries that gave more than an answer:

Norway 7 votes for Donald
Germany 6 votes for Donald
Italy 4 votes for Donald
Brazil 2 votes for Donald
Danemark 2 votes for Donald

Only in the U.S.A. the preferred charachter resulted Scrooge
McDuck with four votes.
For our female voters the preferred charachter is Scrooge: the
survey received 3 female votes and two of them are for Scrooge
(the other one is for Magica, and it's not from Vesuvio...)

Well, as soon as possible I'll post the results for the other
categories.

Ciao,
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta

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Kriton Kyrimis
DWIGHT:

> Arthur C. Clarke wrote a novel based on the premise, taking place
> well after colonization had begun, dealing with a surface transport
> vehicle carrying many passengers that had an accident and sank into
> the dust, and the rescue efforts on its behalf. (I'm writing this
> from long-faded memory, but I seem to think "Moondust" was in the
> title.)

The actual title is "A Fall of Moondust". Highly recommended, despite the
obsolete premise.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"Paranoia is just another word for a heightened appreciation of how badly the
universe wants to get you."
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David B. Fenske
At 09:33 PM 11/18/97 +0000, you wrote:
>HARRY FLUKS:
>
>>David F.:
>>>when you put a
>>>Branca story next to a Rosa story, I'm afraid from visuals alone I'm going
>>>to prefer the latter.
>>
>>To me this sounds unbelievable! When comparing the artwork of
>>Branca (a great artist) and Rosa (a great storyteller, and an accurate
>>artist), Branca always wins. I can imagine that one prefers Rosa
>>because of the story, but I never heard someone preferring Rosa
>>because of the art alone.
>
Somehow I never got the original message here, but must reply. Your
statement is as unbelievable to me as mine apparently was to you. Branca is
OK, but like Tarjei below, I find his art rather nondescript. He does not
stand out in any way from many of the other non-Barks/Rosa/Van Horn
artists. Again, he draws a fine comic, but not a superb one.

Now Don, on the other hand, draws exquisitely (did I spell that right?).
His ducks have real expression and personality, and his art is wonderfully
fun to look at, to mull over, to admire. When Don is at his best, which is
often, nobody can compare. Don is instantly and uniquely recognizable.
AND he tells a good story to boot. Pound for pound, thought for thought,
Rosa is simply the best [this comparison isn't meant to include Barks, who
is also in a class of his own] (my deepest apologies to all you fine Disney
artists out there :-)).

OCTIJMHO (Of Course, That Is Just My Humble Opinion).

Dave F.

>I'm afraid I agree with David here. While I have never taken any particular
>notice of Brancas' art (and I'm sure I've read his stories for a LONG time
>before finding out his name sometime this year on the mailing-list), Don
>Rosas' art immediately caught my eye (because I liked it that is) when I
>first saw one of his stories around '91. I consider his art far superior.
>Brancas' artwork has always seemed more streamlined and "mass-produced" to
>me. Admittedly some of his stuff IS pretty good, but often I just don't
>find it particularly noteworthy. In TAUSMD Geoffrey Blum says that his
>creations have become a bit angular in later years. Maybe I'd like his
>earlier art more? I'll have a look through my collection to see what I can
>find.
> I'm sure Branca DOES enjoy his work, and I don't DISLIKE his art; it's
>just that - for me - it has never separated itself from the crowds.
>
>ANYONE:
>
>Isn't Don Rosa meant to be returning soon?
>
>
>
>
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Fluks, H.W.
Joakim asked:
>Any comments on the new Paperinik ( Fantonald, Stalanden or
>Super-Donald.) comics? Does anyone like them, or dislike them?
>Any feelings about them at all?

In Holland, one issue of "DuckPower" was released, and the 2nd
issue will come soon. I must admit (being a non-superhero-comics-fan)
that I *liked* the comic. And I will certainly buy the 2nd one.

Both story (though not Rosa) and art (though not Branca 8-) are
way above the average Disney comic!

--Harry.
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

JOAKIM:
> Any comments on the new Paperinik ( Fantonald, Stalanden or
> Super-Donald.) comics? Does anyone like them, or dislike them?
> Any feelings about them at all?

I really like them. They released the first issue in Holland
a while ago and I'm glad to see that soon the second one will
come out. I've been reading the Phantomias comics from Germany
and they get better and better. But it seems like they stopped
to publish them in Germany after the 9th issue. Does anyone know
more about that? Why did they stop?

Bye,

Arthur
Luna Storta
Hello,

About the debte on which is the country where Disney Comics are more
popular, I'd like to remind you that in Italy the average number of
printed copies of "Topolino" is about 500.000 and during summer this
number of copies reaches the number of 1.000.000. I think it's a
pretty good result in a country with 57.000.000 inhabitants. However
there is yet another thing to consider: there are at least other 20
Disney titles that cn be found in all the kiosks and 2 amatorial
editors (Comic Art and ANAF) that regulary reprints comics from Barks,
Gottfredson, Taliaferro, Scarpa, etc... I don't know if some other
country have such an interesting production...

CHUCK:
Welcome on the list, Chuck. I've already got some questions for you:
you said tha you are interested in stamps, well, I suppose it includes
Disney stamps too. If this is it, can you tell me if it's true that
there is a stamp serie with drawings from Barks, where have they been
printed and how much are they valued? Are there some other Disney
series that deserve to be collected (I already got the serie from G.B.
Carpi edited in San Marino)?

EIRIK KROG:
>2. In which other Disney comics stories does Bombie or other Zombies
>appear?

In Mickey Mouse and the 'Lectro Box (from Floyd Gottfredson and Bill
Walsh) appears many Aberzombies.

Ciao,
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
(from Roma, the no. 1 city of the World.... ;-) )

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Njaal Gulbrandsen
Don Rosa will visit The Comic-museum in Norway monday 24. November
13.00 - 14.00

Information about this can be found at
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/7700/

The address to the comic-museum is:

Langes gate 7
0165 OSLO

tlf: 22 36 02 44
e-mail: (Email removed)

Nj=E5l Gulbrandsen

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Shaun Craill
>Eirik Krogh Visted

>Are there other Super Snopper stories than the Barks original and Rosa
>sequel/remake ?

***SMALL SPOILER***

While not a true sequel, D97290 "The Telekinesis Helmet", does reuse the
Super Snooper ideas created by Barks and polished by Rosa, but only as a plot
device. I don't think I've added anything new to the Super Snooper character
or *genre*. The artwork hasn't been done yet, but when it does I hope the
artist will follow my suggestions and use a scene out of another Rosa story
for part of it. My little homage to Don!

Eirik: If you would like to see photocopies of the original scribbles,
please send me a private e-mail with your snail mail address.

Shaun
Bhc
Gaute:

>I realize the need to have spare copies to replace damaged ones during
>production but surely the overrun after this is completed should be
>shredded.

The overrun's got a lot more territory to cover. There's Disney's copies
for their archives (a legal requirement), our in-house copies, copies for
promotional distribution, and those contributor copies for Don, Todd,
Susan, et al. All of these come out of the overrun, not the retail batch.

>Greger Nassen shows some examples on how Gladstone has tampered with the
>legacy in Bild & Bubbla 120...

Would you enlighten me as to what you're referring to here? "Tampered"
makes an implication I'm not very comfortable with.

Nils:

>#1B. The answer to #1 is merely a tautology.

Your question, as phrased, seemed to ask what Gladstone was referring to by
the term "catalog customers." As the only point of confusion I could see
about that was between catalog, printed, and catalog, web site, that's what
I addressed.

Hmph! After all that, I still haven't told you what you actually want to
know, which is...you will get on our catalog mailing list if you buy
something directly from Gladstone, Another Rainbow, or Hamilton Comics. An
alternative is to send $3.00 for a one-year (3-issue) catalog subscription
to:

Catalog Subscription
The Bruce Hamilton Company
Box 2079
Prescott, AZ 86302

>#3B. Point taken -- and "current state of reality accepted", I guess.

We would like to have produced and offered more copies of Lo$, Nils, but
the "state of reality" is...we could only produce what we've produced.

>Is Ehapa Germany the instrument behind the intended [distribution] changes?

Ehapa Germany had nothing to do with it. Please, everyone, take them off
your list of suspects.

>* If it is a German matter only [see Gladstone's public statement, relayed to
>this list 24 October, via Gary/bhc], why should it affect other European
>countries? (And Norway isn't even a member of the E.U.!)

The incident in Germany has raised a number of issues concerning overseas
distribution of Gladstones in general. Diamond has decided to suspend
overseas distribution of Gladstones until these issues can be addressed.

>* How important is the "outside USA and Canada", in other words: Europe!, to
>the Gladstone company? Well, this could be internal information not to be
>disclosed, but perhaps the company's general outlook on this is or has
>been in
>the public domain?

We certainly aren't happy about the situation, if that's what you mean.

>* Are there ways of "beating the system"?
>For example, an Oslo store could make 50 subscriptions with Gladstone
>directly,
>I suppose, by-passing Diamond?

Your Oslo store can take out 5 or 5000 subscriptions without having to beat
any kind of system. The fly in the soup is that the solicited retail
discount would not apply.

>A colleague told me that when asked about the sudden absence of new
>Gladstones
>magazines, the bookstore person could only look in a catalogue where it
>now said
>something like "retail distribution via Diamond -- not longer available".

Sad, but true. Frankly, I don't think Diamond is any happier about it than
we are.

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