Joakim & Arthur:
If the German publication of PKNA (official abbreviation for the
original Italian title) really stopped with issue 9, I would like
to swap the new Danish issues. Case is that issue 9 is the current
issue here, and the series seem to continue. However the three
'zero-issues' didn't appear here, as they did in Germany. I think.
The last story would be "Spores", coded PKNA-6, if I'm right.
I'm surprised to hear that you liked the Dutch edition, Harry:
and at what chapter did you drop into the story?
- Ole
Author
Topic: 199711
(259 messages)
Ole R. Nielsen
PaperiniK New Adventures
Message 166 -
1997-11-20 at 09:59:39
Marion Egenberger
Disney comics Digest V97 #251
Message 167 -
1997-11-20 at 10:26:56
Subjekt: German circulation figures
Frank Fabian wrote:
> One million is indeed the traditional figure for the "Auflage" of the German Micky Maus weekly. > But I don't know if this is (still) true, or has
> changed in the last years; you can't find any info about this in the weekly
> itself. Ehapa should know. They're on this list, aren't they? How about the
> current numbers?
Hello Frank Fabian,
the weekly circulation of the German Micky Maus Magazine is actually
820.000 copies (average of the last three month, printrun 1.1 Mio). But
we often sell indeed more than one million a week, depending on season
and the enclosed "Extra".
If you think, that this is not much, please consider, that we are also
publishing "Minnie", Limit", Donald Duck Sonderheft", "Walt Disneys
Donald Duck", Disney und Du", "Disneys kleine Tierfreunde" , "Walt
Disneys Lustiges Taschenbuch", "Micky Maus pr?sentiert", "Die besten
Geschichten mit Donald Duck", "Abenteuer Team", "UFF-Unternehmen
F?hnlein Fieselschweif" and "Die besten Comics aus Micky Maus". I don't
think, that you can find such a big range of Disney publications in the
US. Correct me if I am wrong.
If you have any more question, don't hesitate to ask me.
Best regards
Marion Egenberger
Public Relations
Egmont Ehapa Verlag
http://www.ehapa.de
Frank Fabian wrote:
> One million is indeed the traditional figure for the "Auflage" of the German Micky Maus weekly. > But I don't know if this is (still) true, or has
> changed in the last years; you can't find any info about this in the weekly
> itself. Ehapa should know. They're on this list, aren't they? How about the
> current numbers?
Hello Frank Fabian,
the weekly circulation of the German Micky Maus Magazine is actually
820.000 copies (average of the last three month, printrun 1.1 Mio). But
we often sell indeed more than one million a week, depending on season
and the enclosed "Extra".
If you think, that this is not much, please consider, that we are also
publishing "Minnie", Limit", Donald Duck Sonderheft", "Walt Disneys
Donald Duck", Disney und Du", "Disneys kleine Tierfreunde" , "Walt
Disneys Lustiges Taschenbuch", "Micky Maus pr?sentiert", "Die besten
Geschichten mit Donald Duck", "Abenteuer Team", "UFF-Unternehmen
F?hnlein Fieselschweif" and "Die besten Comics aus Micky Maus". I don't
think, that you can find such a big range of Disney publications in the
US. Correct me if I am wrong.
If you have any more question, don't hesitate to ask me.
Best regards
Marion Egenberger
Public Relations
Egmont Ehapa Verlag
http://www.ehapa.de
Joakim Gunnarsson
Paperinik
Message 168 -
1997-11-20 at 10:34:59
Arthur and Harry.
It's nice to hear some kind words about "Paperinik"!
I have been editing the swedish version for almost a year now and the
response from the swedish donaldists hasn't been er... overwhelming. Anyway
*I* like the stories ( But I might just be brainwashed?).
The german "Phantonias" was on our original production schedule for 1998,
but when it was replaced with a new schedule 10.10.97 there was a message
that read: "Ehapa does not publish Paperinik in 1998". That's all I know!
Now, it's off to Oslo! See you on the list in a week!
/Joakim Gunnarsson
Falkenberg, Sweden.
It's nice to hear some kind words about "Paperinik"!
I have been editing the swedish version for almost a year now and the
response from the swedish donaldists hasn't been er... overwhelming. Anyway
*I* like the stories ( But I might just be brainwashed?).
The german "Phantonias" was on our original production schedule for 1998,
but when it was replaced with a new schedule 10.10.97 there was a message
that read: "Ehapa does not publish Paperinik in 1998". That's all I know!
Now, it's off to Oslo! See you on the list in a week!
/Joakim Gunnarsson
Falkenberg, Sweden.
Hochstetter
Paperinik
Message 169 -
1997-11-20 at 11:03:51
Hi Arthur,
>I really like them. They released the first issue in Holland
>a while ago and I'm glad to see that soon the second one will
>come out. I've been reading the Phantomias comics from Germany
>and they get better and better. But it seems like they stopped
>to publish them in Germany after the 9th issue. Does anyone know
>more about that? Why did they stop?
The reason was the few selling rate, and I=B4m really happy about the
discontinuity. The only good at this comic book was the glossy paper,
that=B4s all. Graphics are too super-hero styled and the story is as
hollow as a straw. The whole comic book is childish and I have stopped
buying it after issue #4. Of course, that=B4s only my opinion but I=B4ve
read and loved Phantomias (like he=B4s called in Germany) storys 15 =
Years
ago where he was a great invention. The stories were thrilling and
Donald was always like a winner, not the usual loser.
All the more I=B4m disappointed with the new Phantomias comic books.
Reading such stories after a Rosa story let=B4s feel you very bad. Try =
it
out!
Bye, Uli
http://privat.schlund.de/HochstetterUli/
>
>I really like them. They released the first issue in Holland
>a while ago and I'm glad to see that soon the second one will
>come out. I've been reading the Phantomias comics from Germany
>and they get better and better. But it seems like they stopped
>to publish them in Germany after the 9th issue. Does anyone know
>more about that? Why did they stop?
The reason was the few selling rate, and I=B4m really happy about the
discontinuity. The only good at this comic book was the glossy paper,
that=B4s all. Graphics are too super-hero styled and the story is as
hollow as a straw. The whole comic book is childish and I have stopped
buying it after issue #4. Of course, that=B4s only my opinion but I=B4ve
read and loved Phantomias (like he=B4s called in Germany) storys 15 =
Years
ago where he was a great invention. The stories were thrilling and
Donald was always like a winner, not the usual loser.
All the more I=B4m disappointed with the new Phantomias comic books.
Reading such stories after a Rosa story let=B4s feel you very bad. Try =
it
out!
Bye, Uli
http://privat.schlund.de/HochstetterUli/
>
DAVE HAYES
Disney comics Digest V97 #250
Message 170 -
1997-11-20 at 11:11:17
>David F.:
>
>>Interesting, in that there doesn't seem to be an active and advanced space
>>program in the Duck universe, government-wise, so where did all these
>>rockets come from?].
>
>Gyro Gearloose, who'll build anything imaginable for pocket change. Then
>again, what's to stop your average Duckburgian from bopping him- or herself
>on the noggin just so and becoming a scientific genius for a few hours?
>
>
CAN SOMEBODY UNSUBSCRIBE ME FOR FUCK'S SAKE
>
>>Interesting, in that there doesn't seem to be an active and advanced space
>>program in the Duck universe, government-wise, so where did all these
>>rockets come from?].
>
>Gyro Gearloose, who'll build anything imaginable for pocket change. Then
>again, what's to stop your average Duckburgian from bopping him- or herself
>on the noggin just so and becoming a scientific genius for a few hours?
>
>
CAN SOMEBODY UNSUBSCRIBE ME FOR FUCK'S SAKE
Luna Storta
International Disney Survey part 2
Message 171 -
1997-11-20 at 11:19:20
Hello again,
This second posting of the results from the International
Disney Survey is about the preferred author and artist.
The best story-writer resulted to be Carl Barks, for just
3 votes on Don Rosa. The complete listing follows:
Carl Barks 21 votes
Don Rosa 18 votes
Romano Scarpa 2 votes
Ted Osborne 2 votes
Bill Walsh 1 vote
Massimo de Vita 1 vote
David Gerstein 1 vote
It's interesting to see how almost all votes of this
category concentrated on 2 writers who always wrote
stories about ducks (except for a little red hat...), and
this result suites perfectly the results of the vote for
the preferred charachters. Maybe because of the high
concentration index on the preferences that the situation
in very similar in all countries:
7 votes for Carl Barks from GERMANY
7 votes for Don Rosa from NORWAY
5 votes for Carl Barks from NORWAY
4 votes for Don Rosa from USA
2 votes for Carl Barks from BRAZIL
2 votes for Carl Barks from DENMARK
2 votes for Don Rosa from FINLAND
2 votes for Carl Barks from ITALY
1 vote for Bill Walsh from ITALY
1 vote for Don Rosa from AUSTRIA
1 vote for Don Rosa from GREECE
1 vote for Don Rosa from GERMANY
1 vote for Ted Osborne from USA
1 vote for Ted Osborne from ITALY
1 vote for Romano Scarpa from ITALY
1 vote for Romano Scarpa from DENMARK
1 vote for Massimo de Vita from ITALY
1 vote for Don Rosa from SWEDEN
1 vote for Don Rosa from CANADA
1 vote for David Gerstein from USA
1 vote for Carl Barks from SWEDEN
1 vote for Carl Barks from USA
1 vote for Carl Barks from NEW ZEALAND
I like expecially the votes to Romano Scarpa from Denmark
and Italy and to Ted Osborne from Italy and USA.
The preferred artist is definetively "our" Don Rosa, who
resulted the first with 9 (!) votes more than Carl Barks:
22 votes for Don Rosa
13 votes for Carl Barks
4 votes for Floyd Gottfredson
3 votes for Giorgio Cavazzano
2 votes for Romano Scarpa
2 votes for Silvia Ziche
1 votes for Luciano Bottaro
1 votes for Marco Rota
1 votes for Noel Van Horn
A very excellent result is the one gained by Silvia
Ziche, with 2 votes from Germany. Silvia is a young
italian artist who is doing very good stories expecially
with ducks, and, IMHO, her stories are now between the
few good things still appearing on "Topolino".
The total success of Don Rosa is greatly due to his
scandinavian friends who gave him 13 votes in total. The
complete list of votes discriminated for country follows:
9 votes for Don Rosa from NORWAY
4 votes for Carl Barks from GERMANY
4 votes for Don Rosa from USA
2 votes for Carl Barks from ITALY
2 votes for Carl Barks from NORWAY
2 votes for Floyd Gottfredson from USA
2 votes for Silvia Ziche from GERMANY
2 votes for Giorgio Cavazzano from ITALY
2 votes for Don Rosa from SWEDEN
2 votes for Don Rosa from FINLAND
1 votes for Carl Barks from AUSTRIA
1 votes for Don Rosa from GERMANY
1 votes for Romano Scarpa from ITALY
1 votes for Romano Scarpa from DENMARK
1 votes for Noel Van Horn from GERMANY
1 votes for Marco Rota from DENMARK
1 votes for Luciano Bottaro from ITALY
1 votes for Floyd Gottfredson from NORWAY
1 votes for Floyd Gottfredson from ITALY
1 votes for Don Rosa from NEW ZEALAND
1 votes for Don Rosa from GREECE
1 votes for Don Rosa from CANADA
1 votes for Don Rosa from BRAZIL
1 votes for Carl Barks from USA
1 votes for Carl Barks from BRAZIL
1 votes for Carl Barks from DENMARK
Well, that's all for now, expect soon the third
posting...
Ciao,
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
This second posting of the results from the International
Disney Survey is about the preferred author and artist.
The best story-writer resulted to be Carl Barks, for just
3 votes on Don Rosa. The complete listing follows:
Carl Barks 21 votes
Don Rosa 18 votes
Romano Scarpa 2 votes
Ted Osborne 2 votes
Bill Walsh 1 vote
Massimo de Vita 1 vote
David Gerstein 1 vote
It's interesting to see how almost all votes of this
category concentrated on 2 writers who always wrote
stories about ducks (except for a little red hat...), and
this result suites perfectly the results of the vote for
the preferred charachters. Maybe because of the high
concentration index on the preferences that the situation
in very similar in all countries:
7 votes for Carl Barks from GERMANY
7 votes for Don Rosa from NORWAY
5 votes for Carl Barks from NORWAY
4 votes for Don Rosa from USA
2 votes for Carl Barks from BRAZIL
2 votes for Carl Barks from DENMARK
2 votes for Don Rosa from FINLAND
2 votes for Carl Barks from ITALY
1 vote for Bill Walsh from ITALY
1 vote for Don Rosa from AUSTRIA
1 vote for Don Rosa from GREECE
1 vote for Don Rosa from GERMANY
1 vote for Ted Osborne from USA
1 vote for Ted Osborne from ITALY
1 vote for Romano Scarpa from ITALY
1 vote for Romano Scarpa from DENMARK
1 vote for Massimo de Vita from ITALY
1 vote for Don Rosa from SWEDEN
1 vote for Don Rosa from CANADA
1 vote for David Gerstein from USA
1 vote for Carl Barks from SWEDEN
1 vote for Carl Barks from USA
1 vote for Carl Barks from NEW ZEALAND
I like expecially the votes to Romano Scarpa from Denmark
and Italy and to Ted Osborne from Italy and USA.
The preferred artist is definetively "our" Don Rosa, who
resulted the first with 9 (!) votes more than Carl Barks:
22 votes for Don Rosa
13 votes for Carl Barks
4 votes for Floyd Gottfredson
3 votes for Giorgio Cavazzano
2 votes for Romano Scarpa
2 votes for Silvia Ziche
1 votes for Luciano Bottaro
1 votes for Marco Rota
1 votes for Noel Van Horn
A very excellent result is the one gained by Silvia
Ziche, with 2 votes from Germany. Silvia is a young
italian artist who is doing very good stories expecially
with ducks, and, IMHO, her stories are now between the
few good things still appearing on "Topolino".
The total success of Don Rosa is greatly due to his
scandinavian friends who gave him 13 votes in total. The
complete list of votes discriminated for country follows:
9 votes for Don Rosa from NORWAY
4 votes for Carl Barks from GERMANY
4 votes for Don Rosa from USA
2 votes for Carl Barks from ITALY
2 votes for Carl Barks from NORWAY
2 votes for Floyd Gottfredson from USA
2 votes for Silvia Ziche from GERMANY
2 votes for Giorgio Cavazzano from ITALY
2 votes for Don Rosa from SWEDEN
2 votes for Don Rosa from FINLAND
1 votes for Carl Barks from AUSTRIA
1 votes for Don Rosa from GERMANY
1 votes for Romano Scarpa from ITALY
1 votes for Romano Scarpa from DENMARK
1 votes for Noel Van Horn from GERMANY
1 votes for Marco Rota from DENMARK
1 votes for Luciano Bottaro from ITALY
1 votes for Floyd Gottfredson from NORWAY
1 votes for Floyd Gottfredson from ITALY
1 votes for Don Rosa from NEW ZEALAND
1 votes for Don Rosa from GREECE
1 votes for Don Rosa from CANADA
1 votes for Don Rosa from BRAZIL
1 votes for Carl Barks from USA
1 votes for Carl Barks from BRAZIL
1 votes for Carl Barks from DENMARK
Well, that's all for now, expect soon the third
posting...
Ciao,
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Fluks, H.W.
German publications
Message 172 -
1997-11-20 at 12:59:11
MARION wrote:
>I don't think, that you can find such a big range of Disney
>publications in the US. Correct me if I am wrong.
You're right, but comparing to the US is not fair: Disney comics
are not very popular there. Let's compare it to the 36 different
titles they publish in Italy... 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
>
>I don't think, that you can find such a big range of Disney
>publications in the US. Correct me if I am wrong.
You're right, but comparing to the US is not fair: Disney comics
are not very popular there. Let's compare it to the 36 different
titles they publish in Italy... 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
>
Poul S. Frøkjær
Off-topic help wanted
Message 173 -
1997-11-20 at 13:31:08
OFF-TOPIC
As a follow up on the discussion on second hand prices of old comics I see
an opportunity to sneak in a little off-topic request.
A friend of mine has suddenly found himself the lucky owner of a pretty rare
beast: Whiz Comics issue 2, Feb. 1940 in a Fn-Vf condition. According to
price guides this should be worth thousands of dollars.
I will take this opportunity to ask: Can anyone give him an idea what to
do/where to go for selling such a comic at the best price (-like it or not but
he is NOT gonna sell it for half the cover price). Please answer me in
private mail.
Before Dons blood pressure reaches boiling level I will say that both me
and my friend agrees that such a price level is ridiculous but never the less
he sees an opportunity to pay out the IOU on his house. Fair? Maybe not,
but I think I would do the same if I struck gold.
Poul Frokjar ((Email removed))
(The guy that wish he had spend more time at Danish flea markets...)
As a follow up on the discussion on second hand prices of old comics I see
an opportunity to sneak in a little off-topic request.
A friend of mine has suddenly found himself the lucky owner of a pretty rare
beast: Whiz Comics issue 2, Feb. 1940 in a Fn-Vf condition. According to
price guides this should be worth thousands of dollars.
I will take this opportunity to ask: Can anyone give him an idea what to
do/where to go for selling such a comic at the best price (-like it or not but
he is NOT gonna sell it for half the cover price). Please answer me in
private mail.
Before Dons blood pressure reaches boiling level I will say that both me
and my friend agrees that such a price level is ridiculous but never the less
he sees an opportunity to pay out the IOU on his house. Fair? Maybe not,
but I think I would do the same if I struck gold.
Poul Frokjar ((Email removed))
(The guy that wish he had spend more time at Danish flea markets...)
Cebarat
Disney comics Digest V97 #250
Message 174 -
1997-11-20 at 13:37:36
CHARLES (Chuck Munson) introduc(k)ed himself by saying:
<<(much personal info deleted)>>
Welcome, Chuck! :-()
DAVID GERSTEIN wrote:
<<In regard to "The Twenty-Four Carat Moon," the story *is* from
the 1950s, when I'm not sure how much your average person knew about
space travel. Remember that ten years earlier, in 1948, Barks actually
did a story where the spacescape isn't inked black and where Donald
needs no space suit to walk on the moon (WDC 93). We've come a long way.>>
But even by 1948, wasn't it pretty well established that the moon had no
atmosphere to speak of?
DAVID FENSKE wrote:
<<[Actually, I've always kinda been a tad jealous of the duck's freedom as
far as getting into space is concerned. Seems like everyone has a rocket
ship of some kind just waiting to blast off at a moments notice.
Interesting, in that there doesn't seem to be an active and advanced space
program in the Duck universe, government-wise, so where did all these
rockets come from?].>>
There is a Duckburg rocket program, as witness the Barks ten-pager "Raven
Mad" (in which Duckburg plans to send a rocket to the sun), and the ten-pager
in which Donald worked as a broom boy at the rocket base, but evidently it's
underfunded. In "Raven Mad," Duckburgian citizens have to dance the hula to
get people to donate money to pay for the rocket. Private enterprise seems
more likely to succeed under such conditions (especially when said private
enterprise includes the likes of Scrooge and rich cattlemen and maharajahs).
A scary thought: how many of the amateur golddiggers in "The Loony Lunar Gold
Rush" who blasted off to the Moon in homemade rockets never actually came
back?
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http;//members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"THE USS JUMPSTART [IS] THE ONLY ROCKET WITH A CLUTCH!" -- Launchpad McQuack,
"DuckTales" episode "Money to Burn"
<<(much personal info deleted)>>
Welcome, Chuck! :-()
DAVID GERSTEIN wrote:
<<In regard to "The Twenty-Four Carat Moon," the story *is* from
the 1950s, when I'm not sure how much your average person knew about
space travel. Remember that ten years earlier, in 1948, Barks actually
did a story where the spacescape isn't inked black and where Donald
needs no space suit to walk on the moon (WDC 93). We've come a long way.>>
But even by 1948, wasn't it pretty well established that the moon had no
atmosphere to speak of?
DAVID FENSKE wrote:
<<[Actually, I've always kinda been a tad jealous of the duck's freedom as
far as getting into space is concerned. Seems like everyone has a rocket
ship of some kind just waiting to blast off at a moments notice.
Interesting, in that there doesn't seem to be an active and advanced space
program in the Duck universe, government-wise, so where did all these
rockets come from?].>>
There is a Duckburg rocket program, as witness the Barks ten-pager "Raven
Mad" (in which Duckburg plans to send a rocket to the sun), and the ten-pager
in which Donald worked as a broom boy at the rocket base, but evidently it's
underfunded. In "Raven Mad," Duckburgian citizens have to dance the hula to
get people to donate money to pay for the rocket. Private enterprise seems
more likely to succeed under such conditions (especially when said private
enterprise includes the likes of Scrooge and rich cattlemen and maharajahs).
A scary thought: how many of the amateur golddiggers in "The Loony Lunar Gold
Rush" who blasted off to the Moon in homemade rockets never actually came
back?
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http;//members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"THE USS JUMPSTART [IS] THE ONLY ROCKET WITH A CLUTCH!" -- Launchpad McQuack,
"DuckTales" episode "Money to Burn"
Arthur De Wolf
Paperinik
Message 175 -
1997-11-20 at 13:48:33
Hi!
> The reason was the few selling rate, and I m really happy about the
> discontinuity. The only good at this comic book was the glossy paper,
> that s all. Graphics are too super-hero styled and the story is as
> hollow as a straw.
But there are already so many 'normal' Disney comics story. Why should
a series like this be discontinued? I disagree with you that the story
is too hollow, because some stories were very good, in my opinion.
Bye,
Arthur
> The reason was the few selling rate, and I m really happy about the
> discontinuity. The only good at this comic book was the glossy paper,
> that s all. Graphics are too super-hero styled and the story is as
> hollow as a straw.
But there are already so many 'normal' Disney comics story. Why should
a series like this be discontinued? I disagree with you that the story
is too hollow, because some stories were very good, in my opinion.
Bye,
Arthur
Joonalei
????
Message 176 -
1997-11-20 at 15:02:32
If someone could tell a page or place where i can order American Rosa albums
and comics
and comics
Per Starback
Disney comics Digest V97 #246
Message 177 -
1997-11-20 at 16:48:44
Some "dogfish" wrote:
> This was a good Digest!!
about the message
> MAIL DELETED BECAUSE OF LACK OF DISK SPACE
that was sent out to the digest subscribers a week ago. Sorry about
that, for those who didn't think that was a good digest. Many were
wondering if the error was on their end or my end, but as you noticed
you were not alone in getting a message like that. Disk space here
was low and a lot of things weren't working because of that, including
mail. I resent that digest "manually" after fixing things up, but I
didn't bother to add a note explaining what had happened, as I was
quite in a hurry to get on the plane to London, where I've been the
last week. Now back to my backlog of mail...
> This was a good Digest!!
about the message
> MAIL DELETED BECAUSE OF LACK OF DISK SPACE
that was sent out to the digest subscribers a week ago. Sorry about
that, for those who didn't think that was a good digest. Many were
wondering if the error was on their end or my end, but as you noticed
you were not alone in getting a message like that. Disk space here
was low and a lot of things weren't working because of that, including
mail. I resent that digest "manually" after fixing things up, but I
didn't bother to add a note explaining what had happened, as I was
quite in a hurry to get on the plane to London, where I've been the
last week. Now back to my backlog of mail...
ANDERSEN THOMAS
Karl Kroyer, Magica and what about Don.
Message 178 -
1997-11-20 at 17:35:21
Hi folks!
Since this is the first time I write on this great list I will
introduce myself very (and I mean very) shortly. I=B4m 24 and started
this summer writing Disney-stories for Egmont (a long childhood dream
of mine).
Now to my answers and remarks.
Niels in #242 you asked something concerning the "ping pong method"
in your question no.4. I have following informations to you:
1.The danish inventors name was Karl Kroyer (with a / through the o).
2. His apply for a patent was rejected because the method had
allready been shown in a Donald Duck story.
3. The accident took place in autumn 1964 and Kroyer raised the ship
the 31th of December.
Further more I can tell you:
Kroyer used tiny plastic balls made of polystyrene. He used 27
billons balls which weighed 65 tons.
In the scientific magazines Popular Science, April 1965 and
Chemistry, September 1966 Kroyer=B4s method was descibed together with
some pictures from the Donald Duck story.
Later on Kroyer used the same method to raise the ship Martin S of
Svendborg which stood at the bottom of a harbour in Greenland
(Sukkertoppen).
There are some rumours about where Barks got the idea. In 1938 the
american millionaire Howard Hughes used ping pong balls in his plane
to prevent it from sinking in case he had to make a forced landing on
the water.
If you want to see more read the articles in Anders And & Co. #35
1994 and in Politiken 9 November 1997.
Now to something else.
In the debate on Magica never getting arrested, I must remind you all
that Magica has been arrested several times for trying to steal
Scrooge=B4s lucky dime. I can=B4t remember the names of the stories right
now but I have read several stories where she ends up getting
arrested.
I have rumours about that Don is coming to Denmark in December. Can
anyone verify that and if so what dates ?
Bye for now.
Thomas Andersen
Since this is the first time I write on this great list I will
introduce myself very (and I mean very) shortly. I=B4m 24 and started
this summer writing Disney-stories for Egmont (a long childhood dream
of mine).
Now to my answers and remarks.
Niels in #242 you asked something concerning the "ping pong method"
in your question no.4. I have following informations to you:
1.The danish inventors name was Karl Kroyer (with a / through the o).
2. His apply for a patent was rejected because the method had
allready been shown in a Donald Duck story.
3. The accident took place in autumn 1964 and Kroyer raised the ship
the 31th of December.
Further more I can tell you:
Kroyer used tiny plastic balls made of polystyrene. He used 27
billons balls which weighed 65 tons.
In the scientific magazines Popular Science, April 1965 and
Chemistry, September 1966 Kroyer=B4s method was descibed together with
some pictures from the Donald Duck story.
Later on Kroyer used the same method to raise the ship Martin S of
Svendborg which stood at the bottom of a harbour in Greenland
(Sukkertoppen).
There are some rumours about where Barks got the idea. In 1938 the
american millionaire Howard Hughes used ping pong balls in his plane
to prevent it from sinking in case he had to make a forced landing on
the water.
If you want to see more read the articles in Anders And & Co. #35
1994 and in Politiken 9 November 1997.
Now to something else.
In the debate on Magica never getting arrested, I must remind you all
that Magica has been arrested several times for trying to steal
Scrooge=B4s lucky dime. I can=B4t remember the names of the stories right
now but I have read several stories where she ends up getting
arrested.
I have rumours about that Don is coming to Denmark in December. Can
anyone verify that and if so what dates ?
Bye for now.
Thomas Andersen
Rich Bellacera
Disney, Sci-Fi and AM&J
Message 179 -
1997-11-20 at 18:08:16
DISNEY & STAR TREK:
I, too am a fan of Science Fiction, and like the others I am really enjoy
Star Trek. However, I have enjoyed ALL of it's incarnations and currently
enjoy Deep Space 9 the best. I really liked Babylon 5 and am saddened by
its ending (though it is my understanding that the Sci-Fi Channel will be
picking it up for a few made-for-TV movies with all-new material. I grew
up reading Heinlein, Clarke, Asimov, Bradbury, etc. I also enjoyed
some of the better Sci-Fi TV programs like "The Starlost", "The Invaders",
"Fantastic Journey", "Space: 1999", "Battlestar: Galactica" and others.
So as not to allow this subject not to drift entirely "off-topic" (or should I
say, to be "Lost in Space"?) here is my Disney Comics-based contribution:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/adventures.gif
It is a beautiful cover featuring some Disney comics characters as they
might look if they were members of Starfleet attached to the starship
Enterprise (under Jean-Luc Picard of course).
(source: Disney Adventures Magazine, Vol. 3/6 April, 1993)
APRIL, MAY & JUNE:
BTW, since we're back on the topic of April, May & June and their first
appearances, here is what I have:
First Appearance: "Walt Disney's Comics & Stories" #149 in the
"Donald Duck" Flippism story (Dell, Feb. 1953);
First named: "April" was named first in "Huey, Dewey and Louie, Back
to School" #35 in "The Course in Confusion" (Dell Giant, Oct. 1960);
But when were all three nieces were finally named?
And, has there ever been a sighting of the ficticious "Julie" (niece-clone)?
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
I, too am a fan of Science Fiction, and like the others I am really enjoy
Star Trek. However, I have enjoyed ALL of it's incarnations and currently
enjoy Deep Space 9 the best. I really liked Babylon 5 and am saddened by
its ending (though it is my understanding that the Sci-Fi Channel will be
picking it up for a few made-for-TV movies with all-new material. I grew
up reading Heinlein, Clarke, Asimov, Bradbury, etc. I also enjoyed
some of the better Sci-Fi TV programs like "The Starlost", "The Invaders",
"Fantastic Journey", "Space: 1999", "Battlestar: Galactica" and others.
So as not to allow this subject not to drift entirely "off-topic" (or should I
say, to be "Lost in Space"?) here is my Disney Comics-based contribution:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/adventures.gif
It is a beautiful cover featuring some Disney comics characters as they
might look if they were members of Starfleet attached to the starship
Enterprise (under Jean-Luc Picard of course).
(source: Disney Adventures Magazine, Vol. 3/6 April, 1993)
APRIL, MAY & JUNE:
BTW, since we're back on the topic of April, May & June and their first
appearances, here is what I have:
First Appearance: "Walt Disney's Comics & Stories" #149 in the
"Donald Duck" Flippism story (Dell, Feb. 1953);
First named: "April" was named first in "Huey, Dewey and Louie, Back
to School" #35 in "The Course in Confusion" (Dell Giant, Oct. 1960);
But when were all three nieces were finally named?
And, has there ever been a sighting of the ficticious "Julie" (niece-clone)?
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
D Decker
Off-topic help wanted
Message 180 -
1997-11-20 at 23:08:14
On Nov 20, 12:31pm, <(Email removed)> wrote:
> Subject: Off-topic help wanted
> A friend of mine has suddenly found himself the lucky owner of a pretty rare
> beast: Whiz Comics issue 2, Feb. 1940 in a Fn-Vf condition. According to
> price guides this should be worth thousands of dollars.
>
> I will take this opportunity to ask: Can anyone give him an idea what to
> do/where to go for selling such a comic at the best price (-like it or not
but
> he is NOT gonna sell it for half the cover price). Please answer me in
> private mail.
>
First question to ask is how large is the comic? Working from memory
here, I seem to recall that Whiz #2 is actually Whiz #1 (there was
some kind of mix-up in the numbering for the first three or four
issues due to an office-only prototype issue being numbered one --
the covers said one thing but the indicia, or "impressum," said
something else). The first mass-produced, widely circulated issue
of Whiz, whether you call it #1 or #2, was reprinted in the 1970s
in a much larger format than that of a regular comic book with a
card-stock outer cover identifying it as a "Famous First Edition."
Several reprint comic books in this series (which includes Action #1
and others) turn up at flea markets now and then with the outer covers
torn off, and dealers try to pass them off as the originals: "Oh,
comic books were much larger in those days." If your friend's Whiz is the
size of a tabloid newspaper, it's the reprint, and its value is maybe
half cover-price.
If, however, it's the real thing, your friend can try selling it himself
to get full-market value (advertise in American publications like the
Comics Buyer's Guide), with all the hassle that brings, try selling it
to a dealer (but since the dealer has to sell it at market value, he
can only buy it at much less), or place it on consignment with an
auction house like Sotheby's (you might get a high price from bidders
or you might not, but Sotheby's would still want their cut). It's not easy
selling one comic book if you happen to come across a once in a lifetime
find and you're not an established dealer. Good luck!
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Off-topic help wanted
> A friend of mine has suddenly found himself the lucky owner of a pretty rare
> beast: Whiz Comics issue 2, Feb. 1940 in a Fn-Vf condition. According to
> price guides this should be worth thousands of dollars.
>
> I will take this opportunity to ask: Can anyone give him an idea what to
> do/where to go for selling such a comic at the best price (-like it or not
but
> he is NOT gonna sell it for half the cover price). Please answer me in
> private mail.
>
First question to ask is how large is the comic? Working from memory
here, I seem to recall that Whiz #2 is actually Whiz #1 (there was
some kind of mix-up in the numbering for the first three or four
issues due to an office-only prototype issue being numbered one --
the covers said one thing but the indicia, or "impressum," said
something else). The first mass-produced, widely circulated issue
of Whiz, whether you call it #1 or #2, was reprinted in the 1970s
in a much larger format than that of a regular comic book with a
card-stock outer cover identifying it as a "Famous First Edition."
Several reprint comic books in this series (which includes Action #1
and others) turn up at flea markets now and then with the outer covers
torn off, and dealers try to pass them off as the originals: "Oh,
comic books were much larger in those days." If your friend's Whiz is the
size of a tabloid newspaper, it's the reprint, and its value is maybe
half cover-price.
If, however, it's the real thing, your friend can try selling it himself
to get full-market value (advertise in American publications like the
Comics Buyer's Guide), with all the hassle that brings, try selling it
to a dealer (but since the dealer has to sell it at market value, he
can only buy it at much less), or place it on consignment with an
auction house like Sotheby's (you might get a high price from bidders
or you might not, but Sotheby's would still want their cut). It's not easy
selling one comic book if you happen to come across a once in a lifetime
find and you're not an established dealer. Good luck!
--Dwight Decker